Any idea of we'll be seeing a compatible implementation of [...] Calendar, Tasks, Contacts booking meetings etc.
[...] this is one thing that any true Office suite needs before MS-Office can be truly replaced. [...] It's the one last thing that ties me to Windows.
Yes yes yes a thousand times yes. When are people going to get it through their heads that a lot of businesses cannot expunge Windows from their organizations until there is a strong open source groupware package - with native clients - available?? Why is this high-profile application MIA in the open source world?
Do you have a standards-compliant website that proudly displays the W3C validator icon? You can continue to show your support for standards while questioning the W3C's patent activity by putting a "dark cloud" graphic above the W3C validator icon.
do we want to hold back web standards by two decades to satisfy our irrational aversion to patents?
Yes.
The consequences on the growth of the web will be disastrous if we don't take sensible steps like allowing patented technology into web standards.
FUCK the "growth of the web." I'm not willing to sell true, free, open standards down the river for some vaguely defined interpretation of "growth of the web."
Anyone know a good place to start learning about Java Servlets and, in particular, how to implement such programs with Tomcat? The last time I tried, it was a major hassle to get even the sample applets running, and I would like a fresh start.
The O'Reilly book (2nd ed) is a good start.
As for getting Tomcat up and running, stick with it - takes a little time to find all the loose ends - some better docs from Apache would be nice, but hey, they've done enough:-)
How in the world can this be expected to prevent terrorists from using crypto?
The only advantage I can see is that it might thin out the traffic that authorities have to deal with. But terrorists can simply generate their own flood of spurious messages.
My last hope is that the congressmen sponsoring this piece of shit are even more deviously cynical than I give them credit for.
Maybe they *know* this revolting chunk of ass hasn't a chance in the world of holding up on appeal, and they're just smiling and giving-hand jobs to the corps long enough to rake in some campaign cash.
It's worth noting that this is my *optimistic* position.
simultaneously running their various pieces of citizenship documentation through the shredders, lighting the piles of paper on fire and pissing on the ashes?;)
I don't really see the need for a smiley on the end of that statement. It's almost getting to that point.
Large scale projects like Mozilla, and Apache could probably withstand a complete changing of the guard, but how many smaller prjects could handle such a change and still continue to produce quality software?
Well, if open source users weren't such cheap fukken bastards and ponied up a little cash, programmers could actually be hired to do some work.
Something has got to give. A funding model that does not equate to having to sell software for the price of the CD + $.01 is going to have to come from somewhere if we ever expect open source to survive, much less thrive.
Look in news://gnu.misc.discuss for a thread entitled:
Opinions please: "community-funding" of open source software
I compare the Internet to a Lord of the Flies situation. Let them be animals and they will be animals. If Americans weren't so blindly protective of "Free Speech", we could regulate it like other information mediums and return to an Internet with CONTENT!
This isn't a dig on Linux, but it would be nice if this worked in Win32 environments as well... as an organization gradually weaning ourselves off of Microsoft products, we could really use a cross-platform mail/calender client to replace Outlook on Windows.
A thousand times yes. I'd beat up an old lady to get a working shared calendar in Mozilla. Which is cross-platform - a critical advantage over Evolution, IMHO (even though I use Evolution instead of Mozilla when in Linux, which is usually).
I have long found it useful, with corporate utterances, to replace the words "customers" and "consumers" with "fucking morons". If you read it that way I think the content sounds much more honest.
This proves once again, that there still isn't a good browser for Linux. So we have to decide on which one is less crappy, and not which one is better.
OK, I'm replying to my own post (note to self - read the whole fucken thing before you post).
I didn't see the bank records thing - that kind of puts a different light on things.
Still not sure where I stand on this - it seems like he was a clumsy good samaritan, at worst - but one thing is clear: LinuxFreak is GUILTY of misleading its readers.
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Hey, where did you get the threading snail-mail client?
2 months later, a work mate was robbed
2 1/2 months after that another work mate was robbed.
my friend was drug out of his car (about 1 block from the office I work) and had the shit kicked out of him
Thus far I am the only person in our very small company that hasn't been either asulted or burgled
Though, about 9 months ago, a CORPSE was found across the street in the garden from my house in near a building of flats.
Dude, I'm going to give you a tip, it's 100% free of chrage. IT'S TIME TO MOVE TO ANOTHER FUCKING NEIGHBORHOOD.
[...] this is one thing that any true Office suite needs before MS-Office can be truly replaced. [...] It's the one last thing that ties me to Windows.
Yes yes yes a thousand times yes. When are people going to get it through their heads that a lot of businesses cannot expunge Windows from their organizations until there is a strong open source groupware package - with native clients - available?? Why is this high-profile application MIA in the open source world?
Check it out here:
http://www.userfunded.org/w3cloud.html
Yes.
The consequences on the growth of the web will be disastrous if we don't take sensible steps like allowing patented technology into web standards.
FUCK the "growth of the web." I'm not willing to sell true, free, open standards down the river for some vaguely defined interpretation of "growth of the web."
Modify the license of some indispensible open source software (FreeBSD Hotmail servers?) to include the following clause:
This software may be used by Microsoft employees only while having a par-boiled carrot stuck up their ass.
Oh wait - they're used to that.
The O'Reilly book (2nd ed) is a good start.
As for getting Tomcat up and running, stick with it - takes a little time to find all the loose ends - some better docs from Apache would be nice, but hey, they've done enough :-)
Yep, me too, I've been to work about six hours total since Tues, e-mailed in to take some vacation time.
I REALLY have to drag my ass in this weekend or I'll end up unemployed....
How in the world can this be expected to prevent terrorists from using crypto?
The only advantage I can see is that it might thin out the traffic that authorities have to deal with. But terrorists can simply generate their own flood of spurious messages.
It's also a self-contradiction, wherein lies the humor, or so I thought.
My last hope is that the congressmen sponsoring this piece of shit are even more deviously cynical than I give them credit for.
Maybe they *know* this revolting chunk of ass hasn't a chance in the world of holding up on appeal, and they're just smiling and giving-hand jobs to the corps long enough to rake in some campaign cash.
It's worth noting that this is my *optimistic* position.
I don't really see the need for a smiley on the end of that statement. It's almost getting to that point.
Nova Scotia, here I come.
This country is turning into an intellectually disgusting shit-hole.
Why, when only a few thousand more you can have one of these...?
Do you think there are others who would like an outline mode in OpenOffice?
What if you and others who wanted this feature pooled your resources and hired developers to implement it?
Open source NEEDS a workable funding model.
Hell yes. Mozilla is an excellent package, and being cross platform moves it into the "awesome" category.
Well, if open source users weren't such cheap fukken bastards and ponied up a little cash, programmers could actually be hired to do some work.
Something has got to give. A funding model that does not equate to having to sell software for the price of the CD + $.01 is going to have to come from somewhere if we ever expect open source to survive, much less thrive.
Look in news://gnu.misc.discuss for a thread entitled:
Opinions please: "community-funding" of open source software
...or search usenet for it.
You, sir, are a moron.
A thousand times yes. I'd beat up an old lady to get a working shared calendar in Mozilla. Which is cross-platform - a critical advantage over Evolution, IMHO (even though I use Evolution instead of Mozilla when in Linux, which is usually).
Now if they'd just put a damn calendar in Mozilla that I can share with the rest of the office I could give up outlook for good.
I have long found it useful, with corporate utterances, to replace the words "customers" and "consumers" with "fucking morons". If you read it that way I think the content sounds much more honest.
JPL researchers came up with the idea after another experimental rover failed during testing.
JPL researchers came up with the idea after another experiment with the NASA SpaceBong 4000.
Say what?
I prefer Mozilla on Linux AND Windows.
I didn't see the bank records thing - that kind of puts a different light on things.
Still not sure where I stand on this - it seems like he was a clumsy good samaritan, at worst - but one thing is clear: LinuxFreak is GUILTY of misleading its readers.
Every day I grow more disgusted.