White collars have been traditionally reserved for organization and management roles. I'd assume programmers would be blue collar.
But I am dot-bomb. I just graduated CMU, I've been programming on computer since I was like 6, and I've played more video games than most.
I like computers just because they're computers, and I come up with actually good ideas that could make money if people funded them. I even have an idea now that'd kick ass.
As you can see, the guy wrecked many many times into traffic. I remember playing rad racer in that Nintendo championships and not wrecking at all, having practiced the game like two times before:P
How massive wipeouts made it into a movie, even a shitty movie is funny.
Also my game is called Intergalactic Bounty Hunter, and it seems a company at E3 is releasing one under the same name. I'm not the kind of guy that sues though.
Yah it was wierd on my grades. I was in MCS. I never was assigned an advisor, and I got lost in the system there, but eventually I got to talking with the Dean and he's super nice.
In most cases, yah, just keep up with the material and the grades will come. Make sure you turn in all the assignments, even if they seem to be trivial things you've done a million times. I made the mistake of coding tons of programs on my own time, instead of focusing on homework. I guess my advice would be do homework before you do external projects.
You're right Java is very lucrative in the ability to create GUI's I created a windowing AWS GUI from scratch on C++ using virtual commands and piecing together bitmaps. So I got a horrible grade in my Java class since I never did the GUI homework. The professor never wants to hear,"Well I made an AWS from scratch, why do I prove I can use an AWS. Its assumed you can use an AWS if you've created one. Unless of course, you need to learn HCI"
Definately just do your homework, and spend your free time however you feel like it. I fought every step I was at CMU and coded a lot when I was at home because I thought it meant something.
www.geocities.com/james_sager_pa/xyzimation/xyzi m. htm
has some stuff about AWS's done in C++. I ported a AWS I coded in DJGPP for this 2d grid based MMORPG. Its a fun AWS because it shows how virtual functions are used with a GUI. It also has some easy functions to change the window/border color. My code isn't the best code to model yours after, but I do get big ideas right. The code they'll teach you in school is to be perfect to be built upon... But when you create a program that is not supposed to be built on past its current functionality, you are afforded some leeway in your coding. I liberaly use this concept, so to some my code will appear ratty and not to convention they're accustomed to.
Yah I did only have a 2.5 GPA... Most of my teachers graded unfairly, but its funny too. When I expected a B, I'd get a D... When I expected a D, I'd get a B.
My problem in school was that I didn't feel I needed to do homework on something I've already developed on my own time. Also I lived 2 hours from school, so if I left my schoolwork at home, then I was fucked. If I had a wealthy family that could have afforded me to stay on campus, I'm sure my GPA woulda been better. I didn't concern myself with GPA, but focused more on actually getting the concepts. Towards the end of my degree, I spoke with the Dean, and he talked to me about the importance of just getting the grades over learning, so I caved in to that concept later.
I can send you a video of me video taping my DAOC bot in progress.
They've actually patched Asheron's Call, and DAOC from some exploits I've done.
Since you won't believe I wrote my DAOC code, and its on a CD in my storage pile, I won't go to the effort of showing it. I am writing a MMORPG now, and some of the code is GPLed, so you can check it. If you have a job you can find me, then I'll show you code. Otherwise I think I've spent enough time on a worthless forum troll.
Here's the tool to build 3d fighting animations I wrote in a month: XYZimation
KyuFu This is for people who want to see how my games coming along. This is also for people who don't think I can code. I have another 2000-4000 hours of work... Next month's demo hopefully will have some combat in it. Controls: wasd moves r-low punch h-high punch y-low kick g-high kick f-crouch b-strafe/block t-jump v-crashes the game Spacebar-Makes a random particle effect in the room
Try holding attacks in, some combos, standing G and H are good. Try attacks in a jump. Try attacks in a crouch.
No attacks do anything but animation yet. I need to adjust some move speeds here and there, but they're not so bad now. Later the moves will be mapped to joystick
I have no money, and I have debt. I have enough gas in my car to drive 20 miles.
My college isn't doing shit for me, I'm asking for help, but no one wants to talk to me.
It sucks too because I'm an awesome computer application programmer, and I have designed many things other people developed and became successful with.
Alot of people play games, video or cards, and think they rule because they can defeat their local groups. I play games only when I can compete with everyone on the planet thats how I have some fame on it. Also this is the reason I like MMOG, but I don't think they got enough competition yet.
I do like physical games too, but they require organization, and set times to setup. You can rarely if ever find a physical game to play in modern society, unless you're a child prodigy trying to get into the majors.
I was a very powerful competitor among my play group. People in my group went on to win $25,000 tourneys occassionally. I did quite well in tournaments myself, but what made me stop playing was "rules lawyering" and spoil sports playing.
Video games have a built in referee, and its one of the reasons I prefer video games to other sprots and competitions.
I've actually made friends through playing magic the gathering because it was social, and something to do in an area that has nothing but houses and cows.
I remember playing Asheron's Call 12hrs a day for money on ebay. And I wrote macros for it when I wasn't playing. In fact I was the #1 go to guy for automated players since I wrote the first succesful one... Also I wrote highly complex macros that: used visual recognition queues navigated the land by checking coords(from visual recognition) Fought the right enemies Looted their corpses
Then I sold the lewt on ebay. Very few even held a candle to my macro writing skills.
I even wrote macros for DAOC, but it was easier. I didn't have to evaluate pixel colors to determine what was on screen... They saved stuff to a log file. So all I had to do was load up the log file in another thread, and parse the new lines as they came. Its so cool to watch your character run, and adjust its directional angle by analyzing its estimated current heading from previous and current coordinates.
Video games have a latent skill in them. Some allow skill to show more than others. I have a great deal of skill, usually I can start off exceedingly well and do stuff the game makers didn't even intend. Different games have different skill sets, and they do transfer over to other games, or tasks in reality.
The degree of any of the skill transfer is up for grabs, but has been a fascinating topic since Robotech and The Last Starfighter.
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White collars have been traditionally reserved for organization and management roles. I'd assume programmers would be blue collar.
But I am dot-bomb. I just graduated CMU, I've been programming on computer since I was like 6, and I've played more video games than most.
I like computers just because they're computers, and I come up with actually good ideas that could make money if people funded them. I even have an idea now that'd kick ass.
They've always thought they were better than blue collar workers, and used their position to fuck the working class.
I hope all the white collar positions ar gone. Managers are a waste of space.
As you can see, the guy wrecked many many times into traffic. I remember playing rad racer in that Nintendo championships and not wrecking at all, having practiced the game like two times before :P
How massive wipeouts made it into a movie, even a shitty movie is funny.
All I needed was sockets, and it was running :)
I was prevented from completing a qbasic mmorpg because Microsoft decided it'd be fun to try and obfuscate socket code for a decade or so.
Whatever, preaching to the choir, I just think that line is funny and I haven't figured out how to mod up posts.
I did it with sick amounts of code... Even had to deal with converting 16bit integers to 32 :P
Irony that I just put this page up today
Also my game is called Intergalactic Bounty Hunter, and it seems a company at E3 is releasing one under the same name. I'm not the kind of guy that sues though.
I tried it
The problem was that back then, Qbasic didn't support window sockets, or I woulda pulled it off.
I read the topic first and I thought it was a TV on one side, yet people could see through it from behind.
Like those mirrored viewing cages.
From talking to people, they tell me I developed what they use in CYC.
The problem is that Cyc doesn't have a 3d engine which is probably why its not so big yet.
Back in 93, www was starting up, and gopher was well used. I got my connection by having my 11th grade teacher forge a document for me.
Some people don't realize there are people like me out there. Qualified workers, who don't know anyone in the buisness to network them in.
I wrote the shard bot, and I paid the guy who mad e ACtool 10% of all my profits.
:P
Turbine changed the desert spawn after the shardbot became popular
My parents co-signed on the loans, then they'll be hit with my $70,000 college debt.
Yah it was wierd on my grades. I was in MCS. I never was assigned an advisor, and I got lost in the system there, but eventually I got to talking with the Dean and he's super nice.
i m. htm
In most cases, yah, just keep up with the material and the grades will come. Make sure you turn in all the assignments, even if they seem to be trivial things you've done a million times. I made the mistake of coding tons of programs on my own time, instead of focusing on homework. I guess my advice would be do homework before you do external projects.
You're right Java is very lucrative in the ability to create GUI's I created a windowing AWS GUI from scratch on C++ using virtual commands and piecing together bitmaps. So I got a horrible grade in my Java class since I never did the GUI homework. The professor never wants to hear,"Well I made an AWS from scratch, why do I prove I can use an AWS. Its assumed you can use an AWS if you've created one. Unless of course, you need to learn HCI"
Definately just do your homework, and spend your free time however you feel like it. I fought every step I was at CMU and coded a lot when I was at home because I thought it meant something.
www.geocities.com/james_sager_pa/xyzimation/xyz
has some stuff about AWS's done in C++. I ported a AWS I coded in DJGPP for this 2d grid based MMORPG. Its a fun AWS because it shows how virtual functions are used with a GUI. It also has some easy functions to change the window/border color. My code isn't the best code to model yours after, but I do get big ideas right. The code they'll teach you in school is to be perfect to be built upon... But when you create a program that is not supposed to be built on past its current functionality, you are afforded some leeway in your coding. I liberaly use this concept, so to some my code will appear ratty and not to convention they're accustomed to.
Some of it is in the code example above.
I have countless tools I've written along the way too.
Yah I did only have a 2.5 GPA... Most of my teachers graded unfairly, but its funny too. When I expected a B, I'd get a D... When I expected a D, I'd get a B.
My problem in school was that I didn't feel I needed to do homework on something I've already developed on my own time. Also I lived 2 hours from school, so if I left my schoolwork at home, then I was fucked. If I had a wealthy family that could have afforded me to stay on campus, I'm sure my GPA woulda been better. I didn't concern myself with GPA, but focused more on actually getting the concepts. Towards the end of my degree, I spoke with the Dean, and he talked to me about the importance of just getting the grades over learning, so I caved in to that concept later.
I've sent out 1000 resumes to any "programmer" position I see on the net, but I have never gotten an interview.
I don't have ANY idea how to look for a job, and I come from a poor family who's never had a professional career past manual labor.
I'm good at accomplishing things, but I'm not good at searching around.
Check down for my example code if you're still a disbeliever.
I can send you a video of me video taping my DAOC bot in progress.
They've actually patched Asheron's Call, and DAOC from some exploits I've done.
Since you won't believe I wrote my DAOC code, and its on a CD in my storage pile, I won't go to the effort of showing it. I am writing a MMORPG now, and some of the code is GPLed, so you can check it. If you have a job you can find me, then I'll show you code. Otherwise I think I've spent enough time on a worthless forum troll.
Here's the tool to build 3d fighting animations I wrote in a month:
XYZimation
KyuFu
This is for people who want to see how my games coming along.
This is also for people who don't think I can code.
I have another 2000-4000 hours of work... Next month's demo hopefully will have some combat in it.
Controls:
wasd moves
r-low punch
h-high punch
y-low kick
g-high kick
f-crouch
b-strafe/block
t-jump
v-crashes the game
Spacebar-Makes a random particle effect in the room
Try holding attacks in, some combos, standing G and H are good.
Try attacks in a jump.
Try attacks in a crouch.
No attacks do anything but animation yet.
I need to adjust some move speeds here and there, but they're not so bad now.
Later the moves will be mapped to joystick
I have the code, wanna see it?
:)
Also I sold 400 copies to players back in the day, and I could dig their email up.
I'm a world class video game player, designer, coder, and software theorists. Yet I can't find a job that pays beans.
If you don't believe what I say, I have over a decade of work I can show you
I have no money, and I have debt. I have enough gas in my car to drive 20 miles.
My college isn't doing shit for me, I'm asking for help, but no one wants to talk to me.
It sucks too because I'm an awesome computer application programmer, and I have designed many things other people developed and became successful with.
Alot of people play games, video or cards, and think they rule because they can defeat their local groups. I play games only when I can compete with everyone on the planet thats how I have some fame on it. Also this is the reason I like MMOG, but I don't think they got enough competition yet.
I do like physical games too, but they require organization, and set times to setup. You can rarely if ever find a physical game to play in modern society, unless you're a child prodigy trying to get into the majors.
Most people in small towns don't know each other. They only yell at their neighbor for doing anything to their yard.
You step out of your house in a Podunk town, and you don't even have a sidewalk, so you need money just to go anywhere in your car.
I have NO money.
I have $70,000 debt.
I owe my mom money.
I owe my dad money.
Nothing I have is paid for.
I was raised on the false notion that if I tried really hard and graduated that I'd find gainful employment.
I was a very powerful competitor among my play group. People in my group went on to win $25,000 tourneys occassionally. I did quite well in tournaments myself, but what made me stop playing was "rules lawyering" and spoil sports playing.
Video games have a built in referee, and its one of the reasons I prefer video games to other sprots and competitions.
I've actually made friends through playing magic the gathering because it was social, and something to do in an area that has nothing but houses and cows.
I remember playing Asheron's Call 12hrs a day for money on ebay. And I wrote macros for it when I wasn't playing. In fact I was the #1 go to guy for automated players since I wrote the first succesful one... Also I wrote highly complex macros that:
used visual recognition queues
navigated the land by checking coords(from visual recognition)
Fought the right enemies
Looted their corpses
Then I sold the lewt on ebay. Very few even held a candle to my macro writing skills.
I even wrote macros for DAOC, but it was easier. I didn't have to evaluate pixel colors to determine what was on screen... They saved stuff to a log file. So all I had to do was load up the log file in another thread, and parse the new lines as they came. Its so cool to watch your character run, and adjust its directional angle by analyzing its estimated current heading from previous and current coordinates.
Video games have a latent skill in them. Some allow skill to show more than others. I have a great deal of skill, usually I can start off exceedingly well and do stuff the game makers didn't even intend. Different games have different skill sets, and they do transfer over to other games, or tasks in reality.
The degree of any of the skill transfer is up for grabs, but has been a fascinating topic since Robotech and The Last Starfighter.