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Philips Introduces Mirror TV

UnknowingFool writes "PCWorld.com is reporting that Philips is introducing mirror TV. It is a combination mirror with LCD monitor that will be rolling out to hotels. The screens will be 1280 x 768 resolution and come in 17, 23, and 30 inch sizes. It reminds me of TV PiP where the main part is the mirror and the smaller part is the monitor. Philips hopes to install it in homes later."

223 comments

  1. bow chicka bow wow! by sweeney37 · · Score: 5, Funny

    so if you mount it above your bed you and your loved one could either watch a porno, or be the porno.

    Mike

    1. Re:bow chicka bow wow! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I had the same thought. Are we all sick perverts or what?

      "Look at your performance Hon!"
      "Wait, is that me? I didn't know you could bend that far back!"

    2. Re:bow chicka bow wow! by Angry+White+Guy · · Score: 2, Funny

      Loved one? How about just your liked one, or the one whom you can tolerate for an hour at a time?

      Do the "I love you because I'm drunk" crowd fit into your equation?

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    3. Re:bow chicka bow wow! by Elwood+P+Dowd · · Score: 1

      bow chicka bow wow!

      Am I the only one that finds that "porno music" joke so annoying lame as to cause physical pain every time I am forced to think of it? I think the worst part is having to see (or imagine) the smile people get on their faces after they make the joke, because they are so overjoyed by how clever they are.

      It is handy in one regard. It allows you to immediately disregard the possibility that the "joker" will have anything worthwhile to contribute to your life, so you can safely ignore them in the future.

      There aren't many things that inspire this variety of passionate hatred for me, so excuse me if I've crossed a line.

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    4. Re:bow chicka bow wow! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sadly not Angry_White_Guy, besides I doubt there is a drink strong enough to allow somebody to love you.

      Nevermind we on slashdot can tolerate you a post at a time.

    5. Re:bow chicka bow wow! by Angry+White+Guy · · Score: 1

      You obviously are unfarmiliar to Mescale and GHB. Wicked powerful combination that could even get you laid.
      But if I were you, I'd try it out on the fat ones first...

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    6. Re:bow chicka bow wow! by reezle · · Score: 1

      Cow Chicken Cow Cow ???

    7. Re:bow chicka bow wow! by Madduck · · Score: 1

      unFARMiliar?

      even mescale and GHB would make me go there...

    8. Re:bow chicka bow wow! by Madduck · · Score: 2, Funny

      would NOT... would NOT.

      ugh... that is what I get for not using the preview button.

    9. Re:bow chicka bow wow! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Elwood P Dowd playing the spurned lover who walks in on his "wife" and the poolboy. Sorry Elwood, you shoulda bought those penis pills! bow chicka bow wow

    10. Re:bow chicka bow wow! by Angry+White+Guy · · Score: 1

      Ahhh, that made my night. Thanks.

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    11. Re:bow chicka bow wow! by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      so if you mount it above your bed you and your loved one could either watch a porno, or be the porno.

      Oh its coming, its coming, its its.......damn Depends commercials! Shit!

    12. Re:bow chicka bow wow! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Am I the only one that finds that "porno music" joke so annoying lame as to cause physical pain every time I am forced to think of it?

      Yes. Other things that only seem to affect you include "Getting too damn old" and "rotten sense of humour".

    13. Re:bow chicka bow wow! by AyeRoxor! · · Score: 4, Funny

      Am I the only one that finds that "porno music" joke so annoying lame as to cause physical pain every time I am forced to think of it?

      Sounds like someone needs some sweet, sweet lovin'...

      bow chicka bow bow...

    14. Re:bow chicka bow wow! by AyeRoxor! · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Seriously though, many great minds found humor in things that you probably consider to be "below you." (self esteem issues?)

      From stupid puns, to monty python, to womanizing and drinking beers, einstein, Richard Feynman (inventor of quantum mechanics), and others won't lose sleep over you putting them on ignore.

      Loosen up, tiger.

    15. Re:bow chicka bow wow! by NickFitz · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      That WTC site in your sig sucks. Can't you link to an HTML equivalent? Oh no, there isn't one.

      Bandwidth-wasting garbage. Tell them to get a grip, if you like them so much.

      Mod me flamebait, it had to be said.

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    16. Re:bow chicka bow wow! by AyeRoxor! · · Score: 1

      >That WTC site in your sig sucks. Can't you link
      >to an HTML equivalent? Oh no, there isn't one.

      I agree. I dislike shockwave flash and the ilk, and have them disabled in my browser. But I like the design so much that I chose to 'advertise' for them.

      >Bandwidth-wasting garbage. Tell them to get a
      >grip, if you like them so much.

      Heh. How does that work? "Hi, WTC2K? I like you so much that I'm here to tell you to get a grip."

      >Mod me flamebait, it had to be said.

      I don't think you're being a flamebait. You have your right to your opinions.

    17. Re:bow chicka bow wow! by NickFitz · · Score: 1

      Cheers. As a web developer, I get annoyed by the way graphic designers fail to understand the medium in which they are working, and produce such things. I have to admit that it's a good looking Flash site, I just feel it's better to do it using simple stuff. I know I was a bit OTT with the "tell them" comment, but I've just got back from the pub, so my "be reasonable and act in a courteous manner to others" filter is set a bit lower than normal :-(

      BTW, I do agree with the actual content of your post. OTOH, I agree with the parent as well. Definitely closing time :-)

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    18. Re:bow chicka bow wow! by Elwood+P+Dowd · · Score: 2

      I'm perfectly comfortable with the basest humor, I promise. It's not that it's below me. It's that the people that make the joke tend to make it several times a day. After the fifteenth time you hear one person make the joke, it doesn't matter how not funny it was when they first borrowed it from some sitcom.

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    19. Re:bow chicka bow wow! by ajs318 · · Score: 1
      Can't you link to an HTML equivalent?
      Surely you mean "a HTML equivalent" ?

      The "H" is at the beginning of the abreviation, so it gets pronounced as a consonant ..... HTML is haitch-tee-em-el, PHP is pee-'aitch-pee.
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    20. Re:bow chicka bow wow! by leshert · · Score: 1

      The "H" is at the beginning of the abreviation, so it gets pronounced as a consonant ..... HTML is haitch-tee-em-el, PHP is pee-'aitch-pee.

      The poster was probably a Yank... in American English, 'H' is never voiced.

    21. Re:bow chicka bow wow! by NickFitz · · Score: 1

      Actually, in UK English the name of the letter H is pronounced "aitch", giving "aitch-tee-em-el", which takes "an" as the preceding indefinite article.

      To aspirate H as "haitch" is considered common (as in plebeian) enough to have been frequently used in humorous short stories for the purpose of emphasising the stupidity of a policeman taking down a name and address. But we English are a bunch of stuck-up ponces after all :-)

      TTFN

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    22. Re:bow chicka bow wow! by ajs318 · · Score: 1
      Actually, in UK English the name of the letter H is pronounced "aitch", giving "aitch-tee-em-el", which takes "an" as the preceding indefinite article.
      Not the way we speak in Derby - a'raight youth?
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    23. Re:bow chicka bow wow! by NickFitz · · Score: 1

      Ah, Derby; that explains it, me duck :-)

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    24. Re:bow chicka bow wow! by quiddity · · Score: 1

      oh, like taglines,

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  2. OOoh...one more step closer by Gorm+the+DBA · · Score: 1
    OKay, so now it's a mirror and a television...just a step or two more and it's 1984's technology, just 20 years late.

    Sign up now for your Inner Party membership.

    1. Re:OOoh...one more step closer by Radical+Rad · · Score: 1

      And now if you find wires running to mirror in your room you won't know if it is some cool new electronic device or a camera placed their for the hotel employees amusement.

    2. Re:OOoh...one more step closer by EddWo · · Score: 1

      As I recall the 1984 was similar to the Matrix in that they were made to believe it was 1984. It may actually have been 2050 or later, so the technology could still be on its way.

      With Total Information Awareness you could find that it is mandatory to have a camera built into your TV in the next couple of years all in the name of preventing terrorism.

      Oceana has always been at war with Eurasia.

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  3. 7 years bad luck by matto14 · · Score: 5, Funny

    man if I broke this I would really get 7 years and also out be out $5500.

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    1. Re:7 years bad luck by rekkanoryo · · Score: 0

      You're lucky then. People like me would get 70 years bad luck, plus be out the $5500!

    2. Re:7 Years Bad Luck by stephanruby · · Score: 3, Informative

      The superstition came from France and it was true only when the maid broke the mirror. The rule was that she would have to work seven years for free for her employer.

    3. Re:7 years bad luck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For those of you who are not US'ers (Americans?), the crime of mirror breakage here is punishable by a jail (gaol) term not to exceed 7 years and/or a fine of $5,500 (that's 3,200 Pounds Silver or $CN 147,300).

    4. Re:7 Years Bad Luck by Grax · · Score: 1

      and, if you were an englander using the tv/mirror to get out of paying your tv tax a broken mirror could get you caught. More bad luck.

  4. Shaving dangeres by shanestyle · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now you can shave and watch the news. As if running a razor blade over your face was not dangerous enough. =-)

    1. Re:Shaving dangeres by shanestyle · · Score: 1

      Maybe spelling dangers would help =-).

    2. Re:Shaving dangeres by moosesocks · · Score: 1

      Ah. RMS must own one of these.

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    3. Re:Shaving dangeres by Michael_Burton · · Score: 1

      Now you can shave and watch the news. As if running a razor blade over your face was not dangerous enough. =-)

      Ah, but think of the convenience when something on the news makes you want to slit your throat.

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    4. Re:Shaving dangeres by The_dev0 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Your girlfriend makes you watch Buffy too?

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  5. 7 Years Bad Luck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It used to be said that a broken mirror would take 7 years to replace due to cost. Looks like the good old days are back :)

  6. Teenie-Bop! by Davak · · Score: 5, Funny

    But the mirrors themselves can be larger, with the image appearing as a window within an otherwise conventional mirror.

    A teenage girl's dream! TV-Mirror in one!

    Davak

    1. Re:Teenie-Bop! by spumoni_fettuccini · · Score: 2, Funny

      You forgot to add phone!

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    2. Re:Teenie-Bop! by Aliencow · · Score: 2, Funny

      And instant messenging with graphical smilies ! LOL! OMG R U SERIOUS :D

    3. Re:Teenie-Bop! by spumoni_fettuccini · · Score: 1

      LMAO :D

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    4. Re:Teenie-Bop! by rekkanoryo · · Score: 0

      Let's not forget the voice recognition! After all, isn't the stereotypical teenage girl also changing clothes, applying makeup, or styling their hair while at the mirror? They have to have a way for the IM to be input since their hands are busy...

    5. Re:Teenie-Bop! by alcharn · · Score: 1

      HAHA, I couldn't agree with you more. What is the point of this, to save space?

  7. Finally... by A1miras · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'll be interested in what's on my tv even when its turned off!

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    1. Re:Finally... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      do you regularly look at yourself for entertainment?

    2. Re:Finally... by WeblionX · · Score: 1

      Then you wouldn't have a problem when the power goes out, I assume?

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  8. And the point is...? by dvk · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I can sort of understand it used in hotels, where you may not want to waste room space by a monitor, and the monitor is used for some minor task such as weathcr-cheking/orders/etc...

    But why would anyone want a monitor in their mirror at home???

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    1. Re:And the point is...? by Cali+Thalen · · Score: 1

      Well, you might be able to use it to impress someone by claiming that you don't watch television because [insert macho claim here].

      Now, explaining why you have a 30"+ mirror in front of the couch in the living room might be a little more touchy...

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    2. Re:And the point is...? by gwernol · · Score: 3, Informative

      But why would anyone want a monitor in their mirror at home???

      For when you want to watch TV in the morning while shaving/washing/applying makeup? A mirror in the hallway that also shows when the Next Bus is coming along? A mirror over your wet bar that can show cocktail recipies via the Internet? A mirror in your main room that can also be a control panel for your TiVO/MP3 jukebox/digital camera gallery?

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    3. Re:And the point is...? by bad_fx · · Score: 2, Insightful

      But why would anyone want a monitor in their mirror at home???

      Well, some people like their TV hidden when not using it (shut up in a cabinet, one of those deals that folds into a counter top, etc) and this takes that to the next level.

      At least it's more useful than those TVs built into your kitchen appliances :)

    4. Re:And the point is...? by Scrameustache · · Score: 2, Funny

      But why would anyone want a monitor in their mirror at home???

      To check on how their internet-fridge is doing.

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    5. Re:And the point is...? by techstar25 · · Score: 1

      Think of it as a flat monitor that becomes a mirror when the TV is off. Imagine of these 46" diagonal and the mirror is the whole screen. you could hang it in the middle of the living room, so when the TV is off you have a nice decorative mirror, but switch the tv on and you got video.

    6. Re:And the point is...? by deadsaijinx* · · Score: 2, Funny

      the point is so i can steal it from a hotel and keep it in my house, next to the stolen towels in my bathroom, duh!

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    7. Re:And the point is...? by LordSah · · Score: 1

      Because a mirror is better looking than an idle television.

    8. Re:And the point is...? by Threni · · Score: 1

      "Well, you might be able to use it to impress someone by claiming that you don't watch television because [insert macho claim here]."

      You'd rather listen to music? Read? Screw someone? Only one of those is macho, but they`re all more fun than watching tv! There's like 2 hours a week - maximum - thats worth watching, and its getting worse!

    9. Re:And the point is...? by smack_attack · · Score: 1

      30"?

      Pffft... 52"

    10. Re:And the point is...? by buck_wild · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but it's not a MirrorTV. RTA.

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    11. Re:And the point is...? by bob65 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yes but why *mirror*?? I'd much rather have a screen in the hallway that shows when the Next Bus is coming along (why would I want a mirror in the hallway? That's just creepy), a screen over your wet bar that can show cocktail recipies via the Internet, a screen in your main room that can also be a control panel for your TiVO/MP3 jukebox/digital camera gallery?

      Maybe it's just me, but I don't especially like mirrors, except in the washroom/bathroom.

    12. Re:And the point is...? by buck_wild · · Score: 1

      Whoa! Whoa! A mirror?? Hello!

      You can't just be telling that to all these geeks! Mass hysteria will ensue.

      *Brings guest over*
      *geek* "Look, instead of a TV, it's a..."
      *guest* "Holy hell, make it stop! It burrrrns!"

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    13. Re:And the point is...? by silas_moeckel · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Acutaly when I was a kid I did high end finish work and we got asked to do this often enough with one way mirrors. You make a frame and build a space behind it to put a normal size tv. Philips seems to just be making it in a package. This allow a room to look good without having a big fugly TV sitting around. Granted this was the old days of 3 CRT projection TV's that were just massive but it still works even with Plasma TV's and LCD's. You do loose some brightness and viewing angle but a nicly framed mirror looks a lot better than a plasma TV over the mantle at easter dinner for some people. Add to that the fact that hit the remote and the game is on it's a win win for some people.

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    14. Re:And the point is...? by pstreck · · Score: 1

      The point is that the tv/mirror is a much more attractive combination than having a clunky tv set, or even a flat panel on the wall. Plus you got the point of all new gadgets, the novelty feature.

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    15. Re:And the point is...? by Xtifr · · Score: 1

      I can sort of understand it used in hotels, where you may not want to waste room space...But why would anyone want a monitor in their mirror at home?

      Uh, because you may not want to waste room space? Could be really handy in some of the ultra-dense urban areas (Tokyo, Manhattan, etc.), where even the tiniest studio apts are insanely expensive (and thus inhabited by people who can afford one of these).

    16. Re:And the point is...? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You do loose some brightness

      Good God! You mean you created technology that loosed Brightness into the world, unguarded!? That's unpardonable!

    17. Re:And the point is...? by Angry+White+Guy · · Score: 1

      Just replace it with a real mirror. By the time they figure out that it's not just broken, you're home free.

      As a side note, they will charge you for towels. Lightbulbs however, they tend to overlook. Same goes for shower heads and the batteries out of the remote.

      (thread of what you've stolen out of hotel rooms starts here)

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    18. Re:And the point is...? by smack_attack · · Score: 1

      I did, I think they should make them bigger, and not only half the mirror.

      I'd buy it if they put this mirror stuff on a normal LCD TV.

    19. Re:And the point is...? by gwernol · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Yes but why *mirror*?? I'd much rather have a screen in the hallway that shows when the Next Bus is coming along (why would I want a mirror in the hallway? That's just creepy), a screen over your wet bar that can show cocktail recipies via the Internet, a screen in your main room that can also be a control panel for your TiVO/MP3 jukebox/digital camera gallery?

      Well its a lot to do with the style you want. For example a lot of Art Deco/Nouveau cocktail bars incorporate a mirror, so if you're going for that look you may want a mirror anyway. Similarly a mirror in the hallway is traditional; people would adjust their hair, makeup and attire after arriving at the house, often while waiting to be shown in. As a result a lot of people who want a traditional style in their house have a mirror in the hallway, even if their guests no longer use it that way.

      If you want your home to follow a particular aesthetic, you'll often have mirrors anyway. This would be a nice additional feature.

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    20. Re:And the point is...? by deadsaijinx* · · Score: 1

      you can steal anything that 1) isn't bolted to the floor and 2) fits in your bag. The rest is left to your imagination :]

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    21. Re:And the point is...? by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      52" Price: $11,999.00

      or a new Car for 5 dollers less.

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    22. Re:And the point is...? by buck_wild · · Score: 1

      I would agree with that. I guess I just don't understand the technical details enough to know why I can't just do this myself.

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    23. Re:And the point is...? by Artifex · · Score: 1
      But why would anyone want a monitor in their mirror at home???


      So I could watch horror movies without my sister sneaking up behind me?

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    24. Re:And the point is...? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you are sposed to feed the plasma screen a fish tank simulation.

    25. Re:And the point is...? by smack_attack · · Score: 1

      I bet the TV would last longer than a Saturn.

  9. Muay Glaven! by jeffkjo1 · · Score: 3, Funny

    My dreams are coming true... Now, if only there were a way to combine a time machine and a DeLorean.

    1. Re:Muay Glaven! by jrl87 · · Score: 1

      Well, if you stand on your toilet and try to hang a clock while watching the mirror/tv, you might fall off and hit your head and come up with the flux capacitor ...

    2. Re:Muay Glaven! by rekkanoryo · · Score: 0

      If you figure that out, let me know. I'll be the first customer. In the meantime I'll figure out where to get the $6000 to buy the mirror just so I can confuse my technolocigally-impared parents.

    3. Re:Muay Glaven! by docbrown42 · · Score: 1

      True, and then there's that whole "obtaining weapons-grade plutonium" problem, especially in this post-9/11 environment.

      Besides, the Lybians aren't paying what they used to back in 1985...

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  10. Features by Aneurysm · · Score: 1

    Is it just me, or are most of the features listed like bill checking and payment nothing to do with the main fact that it is a combination mirror and TV, which the main point of the article seems to be getting at? Seems like quite suggestive advertising

  11. Ugh. by radiumhahn · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    There sure is a lack of interesting news today. Let's all leave early.

    1. Re:Ugh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Microsoft, who recently bought RAV, is killing off the linux antivirus component. You'll see it here later, I'm sure. Scary stuff.

    2. Re:Ugh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But Linux has no viruses! It is open source!

  12. full screen please by butane_bob2003 · · Score: 1

    man that screen is small. I dont know why they dont make it the size of the entire mirror. I also dont see what the big technology breakthough is. Or isnt there one?

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  13. Enough by Wehesheit · · Score: 0

    How much media do we need? I'd like to brush my teeth and shave without stock quotes or CNN on my mirror. TV does not need to be EVERYWHERE.

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  14. Good for museums? by Telastyn · · Score: 1

    This might be good for museums, or historical areas where a computer would spoil the atmosphere, but a mirror would not look out of place. Then the lcd could display information about the room/area.

    1. Re:Good for museums? by LostCluster · · Score: 1

      Might also be useful for a restaurant, where patrons could choose to have "the big event" seen on the wall next to them, or if they don't they'll just have a non-intrusive mirror on the wall rather than a turned-off TV.

  15. Classic case neat technology, but no market by NumberField · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Technically, this sounds quite cool. I think they are playing tricks with the polarization. (LCDs typically change the polarization of the photons by 90 degrees. A polarizing filter then blocks either the rotated or unrotated photons.) I think the "Mirror LCD" technology can make the polarizing filter reflective, instead of just blocking photons going through. This would give a slightly dark mirror, but satisfactory for bathroom-type purposes. On the other hand, the business people behind this have been, um, watching too much TV. A normal 17" LCD TV runs about $475 and a 17" mirror about $25, so Philips thinks people will pay more than $1000 per square foot for wall space. If wall space was this valuable, wouldn't hotels would hang better paintings?

    1. Re:Classic case neat technology, but no market by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      When TVs first came out they were designed to be good looking furniture. Some even allowed you to hide the screen when not in use. Because televisions are so common today, it is acceptable to have an ugly black box in the center of a room. The mirror TV is essentially a television that dissapears when unused. Many non-geeks who consider technology ugly will love a television that turns into a simple, elegant peice of furniture when off.

    2. Re:Classic case neat technology, but no market by gjd123 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      As an IT manager at a 5 star hotel in Sydney, Australia - I think that this type of technology enables us to "open up" the space in the room itself - one of the first impressions that Guest get walking into a hotel room is not the artwork but the space.
      As for why we don't hang better pictures on a wall is that even without expensive artworks our guest rooms cost around AU$850,00.00+ each to outfit already and as long as it matches the decore no-one notices the "average" art piece. It is in the lobby and other public areas thta the "good" art goes. So that our staff can ensure it doesn't go walkies.

    3. Re:Classic case neat technology, but no market by Artifex · · Score: 1
      As for why we don't hang better pictures on a wall is that even without expensive artworks our guest rooms cost around AU$850,00.00+ each to outfit already and as long as it matches the decore no-one notices the "average" art piece


      How many tvs do you have to replace per year because customers break them? Would this cost increase or decrease with these new tvs? I suppose that would depend on how most of them break, right? Like if they're all tossed out of windows, and the new tvs are mounted in the wall, the costs would go down because they'd be less likely to rip them out of the wall. On the other hand, if people throw stuff at the tvs, and they sometimes break, they might be more likely to get damaged, if they have a flexi screen instead of the tempered glass of a CRT. Not to mention that you'd have a harder time replacing the tv if it does break...

      It is in the lobby and other public areas thta the "good" art goes. So that our staff can ensure it doesn't go walkies.


      That's odd. I'd think that the public areas would be more likely to have stuff stolen or damaged, simply from higher traffic, nonguests, and people who know you can't tag it to them unless you have a security camera there, whereas if it's in the customer's room, if it's broken or gone, you have a pretty good guess who you can charge for it, right?
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  16. VT by donnz · · Score: 2, Funny

    Good, so now we can get TV/VTs to watch the crap they put out themselves...I'm sure Douglas Adams would approve.

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  17. In homes?? by Darth+Fredd · · Score: 1

    Yeah, its actually gonna be "buyable" in 2005.

    When my dad was in highschool, they said that our cars would drive themselves by now.

    Go figure.

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    1. Re:In homes?? by bad_fx · · Score: 1

      When my dad was in highschool, they said that our cars would drive themselves by now.

      drive themselves? Hah! I'm still waiting for my fsckin' FLYING car!

    2. Re:In homes?? by The+Master+Control+P · · Score: 1

      Don't worry; You'll have it by 2015. It's just that you don't want to get hit by lightning!

  18. Slashdotted badly by sulli · · Score: 4, Funny

    Here is a mirror!

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    RTFJ.
    1. Re:Slashdotted badly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pun intended? ;)

    2. Re:Slashdotted badly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fuck, when I need my dog put down i'll give you a call. You seem to be an expert at killing things, especially jokes.

  19. Open Source Version by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Okay from the article:
    Mirrors with 17-inch screens will sell for less than $2500, and those with 30-inch screens will probably be priced under $5500, says Gregg Chason, Philips vice president and general manager. But he cautions that it's hard to pin down prices just yet, and he notes that Philips will promote custom mirrors and frames with variable price tags.

    --- How hard is this realy?
    Supplies needed:
    17 inch LCD
    Two way mirror
    decent border decor

    What...maybe $400 to $500?

    Add an embedded linux box and you have everything you could ever want.

    Mirror Mirror on the wall...who is the worlds biggest BOFh of all?

    1. Re:Open Source Version by joe_bruin · · Score: 1

      the problem with your solution is that the dark parts of the image would be mirrors instead of dark (so you'd be seeing yourself). not to mention the glare effects your get from bright objects in your room.

  20. Picture in article by Phroggy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The picture seems to show the TV part as only the lower 1/3 or so of a larger mirror, with the upper 2/3 being a regular mirror. I think that would be strange - you'd basically have a mirror directly above your TV screen. It would also lessen the appearance of saving space - now it's just a mirror on top of a TV (two things), instead of a single thing that changes from a mirror to a TV. I think they'd have more success with a smaller wide-screen framed mirror/TV so that there would be no mirror while the TV was on.

    Speaking of the TV being on, would you see your reflection during a dark scene in a movie? How would ambient room light affect this?

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    1. Re:Picture in article by pair-a-noyd · · Score: 1

      I would prefer to have about a 9" diag. screen in the upper right hand corner of the mirror.

      Not hard to make one with an old laptop display and some mirror film...

    2. Re:Picture in article by pstreck · · Score: 1

      Speaking of the TV being on, would you see your reflection during a dark scene in a movie? How would ambient room light affect this?

      I imagine the trick to the mirror involves polarization of some type and the screen is still outputting photons durring a dark scene so there trick will probably still work.

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  21. Mirror Mirror on the Wall by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What!!! I look like that!!! Did someone cast a spell on me???

  22. You can watch yourself... by Valiss · · Score: 1

    ....loose money.

    Cheap shot, I know. But seriously, is it really worth spending money you don't have on a product you don't need? (or a product that can be replaced in 3 different products for cheapers?)

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    1. Re:You can watch yourself... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ....loose money? What is that? Slutty money?

  23. was'nt this done in the 1930's? by wolf_m16 · · Score: 1

    to create double image's or... TWO TV'S... WHOA

  24. Oh Great!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now I'll have to squeeze my zits some where else ...

  25. nice, hard to think up technology by Neophytus · · Score: 1

    Take flat screen. Take a 'one way' mirror. Put bright screen behind mirror and ta-da, you get tv-in-mirror.

  26. Lame.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    GWAR did that back in '93 at their Chicago show.

  27. Greeeeaaat..... by Javaman97 · · Score: 1

    Now I can see how pathetic I look while I'm surfing for Porn at 2:00 in the morning. Thanks Philips!

  28. Spaceballs videoscreen? by Devil's+BSD · · Score: 1
    Just don't install a this and a videoconferencing camera in front of your toilet.

    SKROOB: (covers crouch) ACK!!! I told you never to call me on this wall!!!! This is an unlisted wall!!!!

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  29. rear/side mirrors by maliabu · · Score: 1

    will we get it factory-installed on car's rear and side mirrors too? so when you're not watching the road, you can watch the TV.

  30. mirror, mirror on the wall by vnv · · Score: 1

    mirror, mirror on the wall
    who is watching who
    are you watching me
    or am i watching you

    and the fact that the product is geared towards hotels is all too obvious.

    one more step towards 1984.

  31. DIY for much le$$ by pair-a-noyd · · Score: 1

    Frys has LCD screens for under $200 now.
    Get a sheet of glass at a glass company for $20.
    Get a roll of mirror film at wally world for $8.

    Bada bing! Same thing at a 10th of the cost...

    1. Re:DIY for much le$$ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I guess you missed the article where it states that they developed a special film to seamlessly integrate the lcd into the mirror.....I have a feeling theirs would look much better than your do-it-yourself version :) But hey, atelast you could overclock it!

    2. Re:DIY for much le$$ by Kadin2048 · · Score: 1
      I'm not sure about mirror film, because I've never used it....but if you go to a specialty glass and mirror store (not the kind where they sell lamps and all that other crap, the kind where they cut pieces of glass from big sheets) you might be able to find actual one-way glass. Sometimes people install them into the windows near doorways to keep people from looking in, etc. If you had enough clearance and wanted to be really cheap, you could put it in front of a CRT...would work just as well as an LCD.


      Alternately, you could always try this recipe for DIY one-way glass...but it seems vaguely reminiscent of the old recipes for gunpowder and plastique you used to find in the Jolly Roger's Cookbook...interesting in the academic sense, but not worth the fingers/limbs it might take to test out.

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  32. Forget Mirror TV... by Faust7 · · Score: 1

    I want Mirror Universe TV. A TV that broadcasts 24/7 my life in a mirror universe.

    I wonder if I'd have a mustache and goatee and be ruthless...

    1. Re:Forget Mirror TV... by The_dev0 · · Score: 1

      In my mirror universe i'm clean shaven and... um... ruthful?

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  33. Porn jokes aside.... by 222 · · Score: 1

    this is the pefect example of how technology is beginning to discreetly integrate itself into our world. Transparent transistors, mirroring tv screens... Tommorow might be coming sooner than we thought.
    The days of having monitors that blend into the wallpaper, or keyboards that only appear as part of your desk when used arent far away.

    1. Re:Porn jokes aside.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      something like the minority report monitors... that would be sweet.

  34. what a gdarn nightmare by SubtleNuance · · Score: 4, Funny

    fade into a middle aged man in a bad suit, balding

    male-voice-over:feeling down? self-image problems?

    man looks himself over, up and down in the mirror.

    male-voice-over:You're an unfashionable slob! Look at these attractive people!

    male/female models flash around him in a halo of images.

    male-voice-over:You look like NONE OF THESE PEOPLE! They are attractive, you on the otherhand, well, frankly are not.

    man's face drops, eyes tear up -- he looks dejected and sad, almost suicidal.

    male-voice-over:What you need is a week Visit at ZHHA Spa and Resort, a Bottle of Sup-Er-Pretty hair gel, and a Free 30day supply of E-Z-Thin diet tablets. See the Checkout Counter for details!

    man turns from mirror, picking up his bags - another person walks around the corner and the male voice over starts again: "feeling down? self-image problems?"

    Hmrphm, cause and effect friends... do I *really* need the intrusion of TELEVISION in the mirror, where, formally, I used to be ALONE with myself?

    1. Re:what a gdarn nightmare by sharkey · · Score: 1
      ... in the mirror, where, formally, I used to be ALONE with myself

      Do you really feel that looking in the mirror is a FORMAL occasion? Do you wear tails, or just a jacket and vest?

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  35. They're building it, but is anybody gonna come? by LostCluster · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You know, for some odd reason shower radios have been around for years, but shower TVs have been technically possible for a good while but nobody bothered to make it. Why? Because most people don't exactly want a TV in their bathroom, the idea of watching a newscast while naked and showering just doesn't seem appealing to most people.

    I expect that people who discover the Mirror TV at their hotels (because this is not a feature the participating hotels will bother to advertise) will be given a feedback card to send to Philips as they leave, and a majority will be returned with the box for "I don't know whether it works well because didn't feel like using it." marked.

    1. Re:They're building it, but is anybody gonna come? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You know, for some odd reason shower radios have been around for years, but shower TVs have been technically possible for a good while but nobody bothered to make it.

      Maybe it is because a shower radio is $20, and an LCD TV is $$thousands. Also, the radio can run on two AA batteries, while a TV requires a 120V AC line. One leak and you would be in rough shape. Jacuzzi does offer a tub with a 43" plasma screen, but it is $30,000.

      LaScala

    2. Re:They're building it, but is anybody gonna come? by djward · · Score: 1

      If they didn't feel like using it, do you suppose they're really going to feel like sending in the feedback card?

      You have a valid point about watching TV naked. It can also be used as a computer monitor, though, and I suspect there are a few people around here who don't mind browsing Slashdot whilst naked...

    3. Re:They're building it, but is anybody gonna come? by CrayzyJ · · Score: 3, Informative

      "watching a newscast while naked and showering"

      a) We geeks don't see too well in the shower once our glasses get all fogged up and wet.

      b) Tom Brokaw is not has much to sign along too in the shower.

      c) Put in porno and people would be in there a little too long.

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    4. Re:They're building it, but is anybody gonna come? by LostCluster · · Score: 1

      Anybody got a list of them so I can add them to my foe list?

    5. Re:They're building it, but is anybody gonna come? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      c) Put in porno and people would be in there a little too long.

      I thought we were talking about geeks here. Should still be able to get in a 5-minute shower...

    6. Re:They're building it, but is anybody gonna come? by thatguywhoiam · · Score: 1
      I expect that people who discover the Mirror TV at their hotels (because this is not a feature the participating hotels will bother to advertise) will be given a feedback card to send to Philips as they leave, and a majority will be returned with the box for "I don't know whether it works well because didn't feel like using it." marked.

      Well, fair enough, but I expect people to simply turn the TV part off if they geet creeped out. Easy, no?

      They will use it as a TV when they are plopped on the couch. They will use it as a mirror before they go out the door. Don't see a conflict here.

      Oh and by the way, your logic is a little skewed; the guy who doesn't bother to use the TV/Mirror 'cause he doesn't feel like it' sure as hell isn't going to fill out a bloody registration form stating he doesn't feel like it. I mean, c'mon.

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  36. Gad, It's good to be alive! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Will wonders never cease? Who knows what truly marvelous inventions will benefit mankind as we enter into the 22nd century? We stand at the threshold of a new era of prosperity and scientific enlightenment!

    The best part about this is that I can pop zits on my hind quarters during commercials and wave my bare hind quarters at whoever's on the telly in between commercials.

  37. Already available by JeremyR · · Score: 1

    I went to a "parade of homes" thing (basically some builders construct some outrageously expensive homes which are then furnished with a bunch of lavish stuff) last year and saw one of these in one of the houses. (I don't know who made it.) It was in a bathroom, which is really about the only place I can see it possibly making sense--if someone likes to listen to/watch the morning news while they're brushing their teeth or something, this could be somewhat handy. It looks like it would be downright silly to use one as a regular TV, though.

    Cheers,
    Jeremy

  38. THINK! silly.... by arcite · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How much space does a regular run of the mill cheap 25-30inch crt take up? You have the tv and then you need a big stand to put it on. With this new mirror thing, its all in the wall, flat...out of the way when you don't need it. Redesign the hotel rooms around this new technology and not only do you have more options with what to do with the space in the room, but the rooms could actually be made smaller, yet seem to be bigger due to hiding the tech in wall. The hotel could make an extra couple rooms per floor, I am sure that this fact alone would more than make up for large up front costs.

  39. could be fun by funkmonkeyfunk · · Score: 1

    combined with a camera and some realtime image distortion you could have a lot of fun freaking people put as they watched their head blow up like a a balloon (or whatever) in their "reflection". or better yet give your buddies fake flashbacks. oh my god, my face is melting!

  40. Vampire Practical Jokes by cosyne · · Score: 4, Funny

    This is just begging for a computer vision system to render your reflection, but delete the person sneaking up behind you. Then, once they scare the shit out of you, it switches back to mirror mode so the other person shows up again.

  41. One use at a time? by maliabu · · Score: 1

    When the LCD is activated, you see the display. When it's turned off, you see your reflection

    So you can only see either the display OR your reflection, instead of the common assumption that you can shave while checking the stock exchange....

    1. Re:One use at a time? by pstreck · · Score: 1

      look at the picture, the screen is only taking up approx. 1/3 of the mirror while on. So you can still shave and read slashdot.

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      Later,
      Phil
  42. It's a two-way mirror?? i'm skeptical. by paulymath · · Score: 1

    if it is, i can do that for $5490 less.

  43. Oh, man. by Faust7 · · Score: 1

    How vain would you have to be to watch yourself in the mirror while having sex?

    1. Re:Oh, man. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yep, the only solution is to make sure you're hidden from view by, oh, say 15 nekkid women?

    2. Re:Oh, man. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dude, don't knock it till you try it.

    3. Re:Oh, man. by AndrewCox · · Score: 1

      Yeah ... well, it's really more about watching the girl while she's having sex with you.

      I only got to do it while staying for a week at a cottage in the Carribean when there was a mirror on the door - it's pretty good stuff.

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  44. Pay-per-view by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Puts a whole new meaning to the term "Pay-Per-View".

    "View your own appearance for only $1.99/hour".

  45. good place for the hotel's secret camera, too. by timothy · · Score: 1

    No, really :)

    I like the space savings etc, but ... the hotel managers better be careful about who they let stay in each room ;) When my family made road trips (and my siblings and I were small) I'm sure we could have accidentally done a bit more damage than the 'rents would have liked to put on the family credit cards. One well-aimed pillow / baseball / souvenier frisbee, and that $5000 TV is looking less well.

    timothy

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    1. Re:good place for the hotel's secret camera, too. by c_jonescc · · Score: 1

      Off topic:

      Is that by chance a reference to the film 'Barcelona'?

      Perfectly subtle; I love it.

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  46. TOTAL RECALL anyone??? by arcite · · Score: 1

    k remember at the begining of the movie.... after arnie finishes his quickie with sharon stone ;) they have breakfast in their futuristic kitchen.....their walls are large TVs that act like 'windows'. It is only a matter of time before the resolution/size of these things is good enough before it looks like the real thing. 5-10 years... Add voice recognition to these things and ohhhhhhh baby, I'm so there. :)

    1. Re:TOTAL RECALL anyone??? by dvk · · Score: 2, Funny

      > and ohhhhhhh baby, I'm so there. :)

      Yes, but I'm sure Sharon Stone isn't :)

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    2. Re:TOTAL RECALL anyone??? by smack_attack · · Score: 1

      She'd only try to kill you anyways once you gain your memory.

  47. Maybe in high end hotels by Isaac-1 · · Score: 1

    I can see this sort fo thing being used in high end hotels, the kind that now have 3 phones with 3 seperate lines in the same room, including the bathroom. Combine this with a couple of other bits of tech, and you could have a voice activated TV/Multimedia device that you could watch while taking a bath. If you think of it as a more dynamic device than broadcast TV it might have potential for the busy business traveler, look over the breakfast menu, or convention meeting schedule, or review your room charges and express checkout, while you brush your teeth. Many hotels have tried the idea of putting a TV in the bathroom in the past, but have always ran into certain problems, not the least of which is water and electronics don't tend to mix. Of course the reality of this would probably be a device that plays a canned promo whenever a guest walks by, or first enters the room.

    Ike

    p.s. I think the idea of using this as a notebook computer monitor has its flaws, people tend to like their monitors on a desktop, not a wall.

  48. As usual, this news is sooo stale by jlowery · · Score: 1

    Hell, Philco was making mirror TVs in 1939! Take a gander.

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    1. Re:As usual, this news is sooo stale by jlowery · · Score: 1

      Heck, even Zenith got into the act!

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  49. You've got to be kidding by automag_6 · · Score: 1

    The screens will be 1280 x 768 resolution and come in 17, 23, and 30 inch sizes

    I want better res than that on my 19" moniter, that has to look like crap on a 30" screen

  50. Wow... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now I can proove myself that my fac e shows no emotions while watchin' the ass cool combat news network :-|

  51. Wouldn't it be easier... by drdale · · Score: 1

    ... to hook a webcam up to a conventional flat screen monitor? Then you could forgo the mirror.

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  52. Do you really want a 2-way mirror in your hotel? by El · · Score: 1

    Seems to me it would be WAY to easy to hide a camera behind the mirror and claim it was part of the TV... personally, I've suspected some hotels of spying on patrons for quite some time.

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    "Freedom means freedom for everybody" -- Dick Cheney

  53. This is priceless.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Imagine the boost it could give to the advertising industry...

    Example:
    Commercial: "Here check this new soap. It makes you skin look great!"
    Picture OFF (Mirror mode)
    Commercial (from off): "Look how ugly you look today. That won't happen with our soap!"
    Picture is back (Mirror mode off): "Go and get it"

    blablabla... Well.. that would be the moment my shiny new MirrorTV has to say "Bye!" while experiencing the powers of gravity..

  54. In other news... by Mindwarp · · Score: 1

    Phillips also announced the expansion of their new 'technology splicing' line with the addition of the mobile phone/tazer and the combination bidet/kitchen blender.

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  55. beat me to it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    here's the full screenplay

    http://www.evilwillalwaystriumph.com/script.htm

  56. Telescreens! by Tackhead · · Score: 3, Funny
    > so if you mount it above your bed you and your loved one could either watch a porno, or be the porno.

    "SWEENY!", screamed the shrewish voice from the telescreen. "325921 SWEENY-37! Yes, you! Bend lower, please! You can do better than that. You're not trying. Lower, please. That's better, comrade. Now stand at ease, the whole squad, and watch me."

    1. Re:Telescreens! by Phishpin · · Score: 1

      Unless that's a parody of 1984, the name was Winston Smith.

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    2. Re:Telescreens! by klmth · · Score: 2, Informative

      You really don't remember the morning workout passage of the book, do you?

    3. Re:Telescreens! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      > Unless that's a parody of 1984, the name was Winston Smith.

      (Check the author of the Parent post ;-)

  57. Excellent! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When I'm bored with watching TV, now I can watch myself watching TV. It adds a new dimension of fun!

  58. What are the anti-theft provisions? by El · · Score: 1

    Seems to me that if you put a $5000 piece of equipment that easily fits in a suitcase into a hotel room, you're just begging to get ripped off. They'd have to wire each of these with alarm sensors to detect removal.

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    1. Re:What are the anti-theft provisions? by ajs318 · · Score: 1
      Seems to me that if you put a $5000 piece of equipment that easily fits in a suitcase into a hotel room, you're just begging to get ripped off. They'd have to wire each of these with alarm sensors to detect removal.
      Yeah ..... but you'd make it totally non-standard and incompatible with any normal kit. For a start, you might use a normal-ish-looking 3-pin power plug but swap the phase and earth over {so anyone plugging a standard kettle lead sends the chassis live}. Wire the 21-pin AV connector up differently too ..... perhaps with mains on the pins that might conventionally be used for auto-switching or audio out ..... and don't use the accepted PAL standard, make your own up. {Or you could have the distribution loop scrambled, with the decoder in the monitor - it has no requirement to display an unscrambled picture}.

      Doesn't stop anyone depriving you of the things, but it'll sure as hell mean they won't be able to have any fun with them!
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  59. If you are watching a video of yourself.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...how will you know when it is turned off?

  60. Playing off an inferiority complex? by Cycon · · Score: 4, Insightful
    this is just great.

    not only can we turn on the tele-mirror and see all of the beautiful people running around doing beautiful people things wearing beautiful people clothes, but we can immediately see how much less beautiful we really look when compared to those idealized images.

    then we can watch commercials featuring make-up and creams, clothes and other products that we need so that we can be beautiful too.

    reminds me why i don't own a tv anymore...

    --Cycon
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    1. Re:Playing off an inferiority complex? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Self confidence problems?

      What's wrong with good looking people anyway?

      Inferiority complex much?

    2. Re:Playing off an inferiority complex? by Kadin2048 · · Score: 1
      And just think of what you could do, as an advertiser, if these things were widespread. The screen is located behind a pane of one-way glass, which is transparent when it is backlit, and reflective when it is not.


      So all you'd have to do to make the audience see their own reflection, was transmit a black screen for a few seconds.


      Picture of a beautiful person cuts abruptly to your own reflection: "Just look at yourself. You're ugly. Go buy our product, it'll make you less ugly." All while staring at your own face...on television. Of course that's heavyhanded...I'm exaggerating. But you get the idea. The people down on Madison Avenue would go crazy for something like this.


      Don't think it wouldn't happen, either. Ads are getting more and more creative all the time -- just think of those Orkin pest-control ads that ran during the Super Bowl a few years back; the ones where it showed some innocent fabric softener ad, then made it look like a cockroach was crawling up your TV screen? Put a mirror in front of the TV, and there'd be all sorts of new and different things to play with.

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  61. Scary thought by Mu*puppy · · Score: 3, Funny
    Imagine the 'typical' date-less geek in front of one of these when power to the TV goes out.

    "Oh yeah... Cindy, ride that big ol'-"
    *zot!*
    "AaaaAAAAhhhhh, who the hell's THAT ugly bastard, and what's that in his hand?!?"

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  62. A New World Order, Thanks to Mirror TV by Un+pobre+guey · · Score: 1
    Philips announced a new line of consumer video and audio products today. The new product line, named Alien Rectal Probe Collection, is an open-ended set of technologies that will allow all physical objects to contain an HDTV display with full 5 channel sound and CD/DVD players and recorders, with optional wireless networking technology. There is no limit to where these devices can be installed, and Philips' consumer surveys indicate that consumers are awaiting their arrival in stores with great excitement.

    Indeed, a crowd in Tokyo conservatively estimated at estimated at 220,000 to 250,000, took to the streets to loudly clamor for the products. Scores of cars were turned over and burned, shops were broken into and looted, windows smashed, many set on fire. Several entire city blocks were set ablaze as the exuberant crowd chanted pro-HDTV songs and waved signs and banners reading "We want a TV device in all commercial products without exception," and "MP3s must be playable at all times from all possible everyday objects," and "There is nothing more important than watching TV and listening to Pop music, not sex, not world peace, not food, not religion, and certainly not politics."

    The scene was repeated over and over around the world. In New York, well over half a million people flooded the streets in an area roughly centered around Times Square. Again, cars were burned, buildings looted and torched, and a vast array of demands raucously chanted and displayed on all manner of signs, banners, placards, flags, effigies, etc. "Pencils must all have 16x9 format displays," "Toilet Paper must have Full-Motion Video Displays on Each Square of Paper, Even at the Expense of Sound," "Fruits and Vegetables Wired at Last," "TV 24/7/365 Everywhere, and Damn the Commercials," read some of the signs. A group of alleged proctologists demonstrated a disturbing array of HDTV-enabled diagnostic equipment. Police were forced to detain a contingent of scantily clad strippers, all of whom were playing MP3s at full volume, the sound apparently emanating from somewhere between their legs.

    The multitudes quickly became unruly, even hysterical. Dozens of people were overcome with emotion as they shouted their demands, so great was their excitement at the prospect of being able to watch TV and listen to music using any arbitrary object in their immediate proximity. Many dropped to their knees and passionately praised any number of deities and spiritual entites. As the demonstrations progressed, thousands of people in each of the world's major capitals were trampled to death or fell victim to heat exhaustion. Scuffles became fights, and fights became pitched battles. In Alabama, hundreds of pistol- and shotgun-wielding demonstrators, demanding that either their firearms or ammunition be equipped with the full line of Philips' video, audeo, and networking products, initiated a firefight with local National Guard troops. At the time of this writing several pockets of resistance ere holding fast in the downtown area, with new foci appearing in suburban areas. Alabama Gov. Dick Brain was expected to make a televised address at 10 pm local time.

    Need I go on?

    1. Re:A New World Order, Thanks to Mirror TV by Javaman97 · · Score: 1

      Bravo!

  63. Prices for LCD TV's by maggard · · Score: 1
    OK, a 17-inch screen "for less than $2500" is kinda outrageous, even with a nifty mirror in front.

    However LCD monitor/TVs are really great and I've been looking for one for awhile. I've a couple of buddies with them in their kitchens and been itching to put one in myself. Something that won't take up counterspace, can be hung on the wall, let me use a wireless keyboard & mouse if I want to look up that FoodTV recipe directly, etc.

    Doesn't need incredible brightness, not gaming so response time isn't critical, the wider the viewing angle the better but anything over 120 degrees should be fine, LCD resolution is fine no need for great quality. What is does require is a wireless remote, really as few wires as possible. I've looked at the $99 converters and they're all awkward and way to much of a hassle in the kitchen.

    So, any recommendations for a good LCD Monitor with a built in TV tuner? 15", 17", with remote, wall-mountable?

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    1. Re:Prices for LCD TV's by realdpk · · Score: 2, Informative

      I hear great things from my friend about his Samsung 15" 151MP. It's got a remote, too.

  64. Big Brother- by Mu*puppy · · Score: 1

    is watching you, so turn around so he can get a better look, sister...

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  65. why aren't they offering it in 1080i? by The+Lynxpro · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The resolution they are offering MirrorTV matches the resolution level of Microsoft's version of movies in *HDTV* courtesy of Windows Media Player9... And if you need proof, check the stats of Artisan's latest DVD release of "T2." Same exact screen resolution on the Windows DVD disc... So where are the 1080i and 1080p versions of MirrorTV?

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  66. Um, why not just a normal Flat TV, and a Camera? by corsec67 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It seems to me that this would be easier with a TV and a camera. Eiter point it out, so it sort of looks like a mirror, or have it blend in with the wall. I think that a mirror would affect the image quality, as opposed to just displaying a specific image on a standard TV.

    Just my 0b10 cents

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  67. Ewwwww by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't really want to see myself when I'm watching pr0n. =\

  68. Glare screens by debren · · Score: 1

    Didn't manufacturers work hard so that monitors don't reflect, to cut down on glare?

    Doesn't this defeat the purpose?

  69. doubt ot will catch on too much by jr87 · · Score: 1

    other then the gee-whiz factor I don't think it will catch on too much. Why would a hotel spend the extra money when they don't need to and why would a regular joe ever need a mirror/tv? That is unless people really become that vain and tv addicted.

  70. In other news... by SkewlD00d · · Score: 1

    The new "touch-screen" version is really pissin' off the cleaning crew, sick of wiping smeared fingerprints off the mirror/tv.

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  71. Get your genuine Disney magic mirror right here by JoeSilva · · Score: 3, Funny

    Throw in voice recognition and we are there.

    "Mirror, mirror... who is the geekiest of them all?"

    Add a camera and image processing and it can really get itself into trouble.

  72. "Yanqui pigs go 'ho-em'?" by timothy · · Score: 1

    Yes, that's exactly what it is. Chris Eigeman makes me laugh so hard in that movie, yet friends get annoyed whenever I suggest watching it for the jillionth time. Taylor Nichols is great too, plays a convincing nice, conflicted guy, and all three of the leading women are drop-dead gorgeous. Mira Sorvino naked ... :)

    Tim

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  73. Car Mirrors. by eric256 · · Score: 1

    How about putting these in the review mirrors and having them show extra info, night vision, radar vision, something like that.

    Its a mirror, its a display, its a mirror agian.

    Sounds Cool. Needs to be cheaper though :-)

  74. Finally... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...an invention that makes broadcast crap look interesting.

    "Honey, turn that shit off. Sabrina the teenage witch indeed... *mirror mode* AAAAIIIIEEE!! Turn it back on! Turn it BACK ON!"

  75. WOW! by lucifuge31337 · · Score: 1

    The hotel could configure it to handle bill payment and other hotel services

    You mean a $2500+ mirror TV could be configured to do what every TV in every half decent hotel already does? Amazing.

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  76. Interactive Information by 10am-bedtime · · Score: 2, Insightful

    victory gin in the bathtub,
    the ol' pair of two-eyes a swimmin'.
    yeah 2003 was when the hubbub
    died down, the world had begun its dimmin'.

    these days, tubed in and happy,
    my two-eyes plays only the best tunes.
    true, reception's a bit crappy,
    but can't recall different in many moons...

    ahh, a news update -- how exciting!
    the war may be close to ending, says the voice.
    i smile warmly to two-eyes, inviting
    patriotic appearance to shield my secret choice.

    the white speck of dust, my betrayer;
    there is no place to keep thoughts but inside.
    julia, oh lost julia, sadness in layers,
    a musty regret salty w/ the passing tide.

  77. Re:Do you really want a 2-way mirror in your hotel by The+Master+Control+P · · Score: 1

    Did you mean "telescreen?" Big Brother Is Watching.

  78. It's all about location by eMartin · · Score: 1

    That, I don't understand.

    If they want to reclaim the space needed by a CRT, they could just go with a flat wall mounted TV. Combining that with a mirror doesn't really help all that much.

    I think the problem is that a TV and a mirror just don't belong in the same place. Basically people like to sit infront of a TV, and stand in front of a mirror. Allow one with this combo deal, and it will cause a problem for the other.

    Just look at the girl in the article's photo, and imagine having to watch TV in that position.

  79. The scariest thing about this... by sparkler · · Score: 1
    ... is that several adults (presumably) sat around a boardroom table a multiple number of times to discuss this... and still thought it was a good idea for a product!

    I dunno... I'm as geeky as the next man but I still can't think of a single reason for this...

    1. Re:The scariest thing about this... by madsenj37 · · Score: 1

      How about as a space saver. people do not always have space for everything you might. Perhaps someone is a minimalist in the sense of not wanting to many objects lying around. Thats what I came up with without really thining about it. Im sure there are many other uses. someone above your post even mentioned as car mirror that could deliver other info to you. It will be as practical as we can make it.

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  80. This is no good without - a camera!! by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    A mirror with a video screen? Madness! But, with the small addition of a webcam, you can at last see what you look like when you talk over a videophone link!

    Am I kidding or serious? Well, that's a question I leave to the moderators.

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  81. If this proves successful... by Max+Threshold · · Score: 1

    The next model will also feature a video-conferencing camera mounted behind an unbreakable plexiglass screen.

  82. Spaceballs ... by RandomHavoc · · Score: 1

    President Skroob doesn't like these mirror monitors in the bathroom either!

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  83. Mirror, Mirror On the Wall... by MMHere · · Score: 1

    ...which is the stupidest show of all?

    1. Re:Mirror, Mirror On the Wall... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is it a mirror image or image in a mirror?

  84. 1984 by pz · · Score: 1

    Just add a webcam and centralized control from the hotel's back office and we come ever closer to George Orwell's predictions.

    Don't mod this funny, this is seriously getting scary.

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    1. Re:1984 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ya funny democratice azz, go phuck your nigger mother.. asslicker, cumsloocher

  85. GIF TV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    So are there any plans to transmit a Transparency signal?

    That would be cool... you could leave parts of the image as a mirror. See how you would look with a dorky Billy G. hair-do! Watch as we make your eyes look like a Linux possesed Demon! Watch as we show you your living room through rose coloured glasses!

    (And pleeeeeese don't base the new standard on NTSC [Never The Same Color]!!!)

  86. voyerism by CrazyJim0 · · Score: 1

    I read the topic first and I thought it was a TV on one side, yet people could see through it from behind.

    Like those mirrored viewing cages.

  87. It's also great when you want to ask your mirror.. by callipygian-showsyst · · Score: 1
    It's also great when you want to ask your mirror "Who's the Fairest One Of All."

    It can do a google image search, and present you with the answer.

  88. Re:Um, why not just a normal Flat TV, and a Camera by starbuzz · · Score: 1

    Have you ever tried to shave (or, perhaps less dangerously, just use a comb) in front of such a contraption? It's like bicycling with your arms crossed.

  89. Next KILLER App by PetoskeyGuy · · Score: 1

    Mirror Mirror on the Wall,
    Who's the Fairest of them all?

  90. Uhh...what should I say?? I know! by Haloows · · Score: 1

    By integrating this system in the wall you would not save space, nor would you be able to create any more rooms. The reason for this is that most building codes and networking/telecom codes have requirements for thickness of walls when electrical devices are installed into them. (Especially devices which create electrical interference). This would make THE ENTIRE WALL 2-4" bigger, probably taking up much much more space than a Mounted LCD or a reg. 70" projection TV for that matter. Also, the installation costs would be outrageous, you would need custom walls, I mean completely custom walls, you would need a 2x10, and I can't tell you how much more those would be in framing construction. These problems could be fixed by bribing politicians, the IEEE, and a couple other standards organizations.

    "With this new mirror thing, its all in the wall, flat...out of the way when you don't need it. Redesign the hotel rooms around this new technology and not only do you have more options with what to do with the space in the room, but the rooms could actually be made smaller, yet seem to be bigger due to hiding the tech in wall. The hotel could make an extra couple rooms per floor, I am sure that this fact alone would more than make up for large up front costs."-arcite

    RTFA!
    Phillips is unveiling wall mounted versions which are not going to save any space at all, except for maybe the few inches saved by not mounting the LCD monitor next to the mirror. Which is comparable to a painting, picture or poster. Wow, what an inovation.

    "Philips is emphasizing the Mirror TV's good looks. Decor is important, as is space, which makes a wall-mounted display a good choice over a conventional television. Needless to say, a mirror hanging on the wall looks better than an LCD, and is more versatile"-PCWORLD

    So sorry, saved space is bull and saving costs, HA! This is just another thing that will probably be gobbled up by the super rich and probably will be soon forgotten by everyone else.

    In response to what the hotel IT manager said, how much does a freakin bolt and chain cost? and what about wall anchors? Those work really well. And owh owh, whats wrong with the anchors they use in schools? And in hotels right now????

    Besides...look at what rockers and rappers do to Hotel rooms now...those poor paintings, what will happen to a wall mounted LCD/Mirror combo??

    A mirror tv...hummm...hay here is an idea why don't we just coat the screens with a surface which can be manipulated by electric current, which could become transparent or reflective... like lets say PLASTIC! I think these guys are on the right track: http://www.funktionale-oberflaechen.de/english/a1_ ent_f.html
    If phillips really wanted to they could just coat their damn lcds with something on the lines of this, get it to the point were it could be manipulated by a controlable means, like the lcd turning on??? and bamm there ya go!

    "Technical Inovations are usually just more bah for your buck."-CWMasakariAlpha AKA Haloows

    "The Fields are easily swayed by the swaying of small wheat stocks."-CWMasakariAlpha AKA Haloows

    And besides, all we need to do is place the tv behind the mirror like in that commercial...with the soccer fan...do you remember that? I think it was a Circuit City commercial or Bestbuy...can't remember.

  91. Re: Surely you're joking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Richard Feynman (inventor of quantum mechanics)"
    ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
    Looks like you've got a good sense of humor yourself!

  92. No, because then it would LOOK like a TV... by Kadin2048 · · Score: 1
    The idea here -- and I know this won't make any sense to a lot of people on Slashdot, but bear with me -- is to take a $3000 piece of technology, and make it look like a $10 piece of yardsale junk.


    It's the same sort of motivation that drives people to put their TV inside an armoire in their living room. A whole lot of people really hate staring at hardware and feel that its mere presence is an intrusion on their lives, except when they're actively using it. The rest of the time, they would rather it not be there.


    This device is designed to cater specifically to that desire. When in use, it's a flatscreen TV. When it's not, it's a mirror. 'Unobtrusive' is the key word here.

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  93. The solution to obesity: by brucmack · · Score: 1

    Slimming reflections.

  94. Let's play magic! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mirror, mirror, show me the most beautiful lady in this planet!

  95. All you need is camera behind that mirror and it's by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1984.

    Is it just me or does anyone else remeber those things that watched people in their homes being two way mirrors with a television and a camera? If you do install it in a hotel, or if philips just sells it, how hard would it be to embed a small camera behind the glass? Could be usefull for somethings probably, but what if you didn't know the camera was there? (I know cameras can be hidden anywhere) But here you could possibly buy a product with a camera already installed without you knowing it. -d

  96. who on earth... by geoff+lane · · Score: 1

    ...wants to watch themselves watching TV?

    If you want a "mirror" just attach a camera to the monitor and reverse the image. Then you don't need the big, heavy mirror.

  97. oh boy by broeman · · Score: 0

    Everytime I go to design conferences (I am a interaction/process/pervasive designer) I see Philips' visions. I have had some courses with designers from Holland (a part of the Netherlands, appearently) that have or will work at Philips. I don't know if it is the context the designers are missing or it is real visions.

    Last time I watched an idea, it was also simular to this. A guy laying in his couch and watching television in a window (not on a computer, a window in the room, apperarently it was dark enough to look at the screen). Suddently his daughter calls him, and he sees her in the window area besides the television. He wouldn't miss that show while talking to his daughter in person. Another children are watching television in their rooms, and then they suddently want to go into the kitchen. They take the pencil that saved the program they were watching, and put it in a holder at the kitchen, and then they can continue watching the same program. It is so hard to turn on the tv with a remote and press a couple buttons!

    Putting technology into existing everyday things have never been accepted by people, as the value of the product would change. Looking into a mirror will never be the same, and I would be damn scared if a tv-program suddently popped up on my mirror without knowing it (as they wouldn't in hotels). Mirrors are objects to serve a personal need, not for entertainment, except those funny faces :o) :o)= :i0) :o(i)

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  98. Hello dear by alnapp · · Score: 1

    Hello dear, you know how you wont let me have a flat screen telly?

    Well I've got us a nice mirror instead....

  99. Fingerprint smudges by NeuroMorphus · · Score: 1

    How difficult would it be to clean your TV-Mirror? A regular TV doesn't get as many fingerprint smudges as your mirror does.

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  100. *pictures probable future* by pecosdave · · Score: 1

    My parents have always been a little behind on technology, and often don't even know of tech that I consider "normal" everyday technology. I'm picturing in the probable future a makeup table in our bedroom strategicaly positioned so that it can be easily veiwed from the bed, with recessed/hidden stows for the mouse and keyboard.

    I'm also picturing it being at an angle where all my parents would be able to see when they come to visit is the fact it was a makeup mirror. I also see them getting very disturbed that everytime they walk past our bedroom door they see me sitting in front of it. When they happen to go in our room and I'm not their, I also expect them to see nothing but a makeup mirror/table.

    Yes, I think it would disturb them greatly to wonder why their son who often had uncombed hair as a kid and always looked like he had just dragged himself through the dirt was now sitting in front of a bunch of makeup and staring blankly at the mirror all the time. Oh the gossip that would ensue after that. After all, the only thing the common human can make that travels faster than light is gossip.

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  101. that's interesting by eryk · · Score: 1

    so you can switch off your TV just to see who is watching you from behind?

  102. multiple use by NetNinja · · Score: 1

    I can already see the FBI trying to figure out how those mirrors can record everything that goes on in a room.
    Or Hotel employees embedding cameras in them.

  103. Good, now Film Noir Home can have a mirror by Maroman · · Score: 1

    Great! A camera to locate the viewer, a camera to take the scene, a embedded processor to compute resultant viewing angles, and the mirror/tv can display it... as discussed here.

  104. something like that by youknowit · · Score: 0

    i have heard of something like that. a friend of mine has a tv that also acts as a computer monitor, and it had a built in dvd/cd player, and a built in tivo system. it was crazy. he works for a tv manufacturing company and him and his friends put it together.

  105. Re: Surely you're joking by AyeRoxor! · · Score: 1

    >"Richard Feynman (inventor of quantum mechanics)"
    >Looks like you've got a good sense of humor yourself!

    OKAY, okay :-P Quantum Theory.

    *sigh*
    Pedants.

  106. weird idea by JohnDoe69 · · Score: 1

    what is phillips trying to promote, and what are these hotels doing...what is the point of making a MIRROR TV...so is it a TV or a MIRROR ahah...its a interesting idea but i would not think that phillips would come up with it.