I took the liberty of following the link of your sig to the site where you are advertising for support of your amateur movie project, http:/// griefmovie dot com. Looking at that site's whois record, you obviously decline to reveal your identity by listing Domains By Proxy.
Seeing that you accept donations using paypal on that site I looked up your merchant details. The number you list as a customer service line is not assigned. The number starts with 212-555-xxxx.
I now have reason to believe that you are engaging in fraudulent activities and following your logic I could search your person and your premises for evidence of fraud, tax evasion and violation of immigration law. I did report my findings to Paypal btw.
--"You need to find out for yourself what the moral thing is. I believe it is moral to help people gain access to information, so I'd do it. Do you?"
I'm sorry but the _moral_ thing would be to report their attempts at circumvention to their school.
What you mean is to look at what the _ethical_ thing to do is and as far as I'm concerned that is indeed to help people gain access to any and all information.
There is a difference between morals and ethics. Very loosely put, morals are external constraints on the individual by society. Ethics is determining which morals serve society and which do not.
I think this is pretty exciting. Just think what it would be like the day we discover earth like planets all over the galaxy? Wouldn't we just _have_ to drop everything else we're doing and find a way of getting there?
Sex with children is yet another sickening fact of life that goes back for thousands of yearsand will still be around long after the internet is gone. Sadly child molestation is not even by far the worst thing to happen to a child. War and starvation are what KILL hundreds of thousands of children each year(!), and do speak to that little african girl who had her right leg blown away if she'd rather stripped and danced naked in front of dirty old men than step on that Made in U.S.A land mine. Talk of old men abusing children, that little girl had a virtual sit on Donald Rumsfeld's abusive lap instead.
That's as far as the hubris here is concerned, now how about the civil liberties angle. Here we have the "Uuuuh, uuuh it's for the children"angle yet again but what is next? Does our sociophobic sour drop gobbling citizen vigilante get to break into our homes next and search them forillegal substances? Does he get the right to assault me on a street and go through my pockets??
When your masters gives you something, you take it. I'm giving you a nice new collar so you can't hide or run away. The global plantation has grown to such a size we just have to have smart chains and collars.
If they want the DHS can see everything you do on the net and they can certainly look through your account to see what sites you are signed up with. They have to do work for it though right now, tap your connection to see what mail addresses you are using and then subpoena those mail providers.
That's besides the point though. A scheme like OpenID when centralized and mandatory makes it easy for them... and of course it's a boon for sales and marketing.
--"1996 called, they want you back." I would love to get as far back as 1976. There was a lot more freedom those days.
Enjoy your DHS single signon identification for the internet. Fight Terror, protect the children, live a miserable life and earn miles with each voluntary vaccination.
I was talking about where infrastructure like OpenID single signon can take us. You obviously don't want to go there.
I am not going to work on this thread when it's modded down to 0.
Thank you for your knee jerk reaction but I was talking about what's around the corner once schemes like OpenID are widely adopted.
This is a huge blow to privacy on the net...
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Who else woke up this morning to smell the fascism?
While it sounds like a great idea in fact... it is not. On the pro side people don't have to keep lists of their accounts and passwords across many sites and sites have a standardized mechanism to rely on...... the balance immediately tips over to the negative once infrastructure like OpenID is established.. and then locked down and made mandatory. Think what it could be like when sites only accept OpenID authentication coming from certain sources like the provider your IP is originating from? Take it one step further, think what it would be like to authenticate with your OpenID URL to get onto the internet itself?
The idea sucks and I didn't even get started on how it allows the operator of an OpenID authentication service to track which sites you go to.
Normal mobile phones are "secure" when you have locked them to the inserted sim (i.e. locked it to country/network _and_ sim serial number) and activated mandatory pin entry. Then the phone will refuse any other sim but the one present when that simlock was set and force you to present PIN1 to that sim. But let's not kid ourselves, there is not a phone out there that doesn't have details and even original internal service and diagnostic software leaked......and so resetting these stolen fingerprint phone to pristine out-of-the-box factory conditions should be no problem after a while once command sequences, secret keys and software are leaked. Which is too bad, because a phone really should turn into a brick once it is taken from its owner and not at all be capable of carrying out factory commands once it has been personalized and put into service... but I disgress...
the fingerprint reader is not about making authenticating yourself to the phone more convenient, or making the authentication process more secure.. it's about getting people used to presenting their thumbs to readers. I know that to some this might sound moronic at first but if you think about it I believe you can see the point I am making here.
I guess my post was long enough for you to notice then, but too short for you to read. I was talking about applying de facto "Wikipedia process" to a search engine index. But even with editors chosen from a random pool there will undoubtedly be ways to force orthodox "consensus" and if only by installing a fast-track process of dealing with "vandals". You can be certain that thought outside the box is the last thing Jimmy-jimbo-Wales projects are about.
You should know by now they only cripple useful features people want. They could put biometrics on phones and then use that to connect the phone even tighter to you, the actual person. With biometrics on board the defense you loaned the phone to a third party is gone.
Also you could be called by some agency and ordered to present your fingerprint at random intervals maybe as part of some probation monitoring scheme.
--"even though homosexuality is the de facto standard nowadays"
I don't think homosexality is the de facto standard nowadays though I would no doubt enjoy being in a minority of straight men left to provide pleasure to millions of lonely and immensely horny women. Ah, the fantasies of male puberty.
As far as homosexual persecution goes, I'll agree with you in that it follows the ADL standard pattern: "We need special and elevated rights to defend against persecution".
If you know from which Indiana Jones movie this scene is from tell me. I remember Jones facing off some huge Samurai with swords in the middle of a market place. The Samurai twirls his swords and delivers one hell of a impressive martial arts show before challenging Jones to attack. Jones instead just shrugs, draws his colt and shoots the Samurai point blank.
With this analog in mind, it's easy for me to draw my colt and shoot this long missive down with one single argument: A Wikipedia-like process for a search engine means Administrators decide what is worthy of inclusion into the index and what is not. Administrators are voted in by peers so in order to become one he or she must consistently demonstrate the ruling orthodox attitude. So in the end we would get a political correct search engine much worse than Google. Connect that to the Mother Gaia complex deep in your ecosocialist asshole, Wales.
We got ID cards, chip implants, GPS tracking, polygraphs, MRI scanners, iris scanners, highly sensitive mikes, DRM coded Sesame Street and to top things off we have George Monbiot to read to them his latest rantings on man-made global warming and against all the 911 "conspiracy theorists".
Tell you what, kids don't really even belong in Kindergarten. They should spend their time in intact families than in the arms of the state.
--"This issue has now progressed to the point where the majority of people on the planet believe that there is no scientific doubt whatsoever about human influence and more precisely carbon dioxide."
Not to mention the rapidly growing number of people who question the carbon theories.
--"As a believer in the importance of science in all of our lives, I am now getting very nervous about the future reputation of science."
Organized science is about to slam rock hard into religion: it's taking the same fall. People are indeed getting wise to the politics in and around science. Those of us limited to black and white are in serious trouble though, because they're running out of colors fast. Up to maybe 250 years ago you could fool people by wearing a black priest robe. Then came the Age of Enlightenment. After that you had to put on the white lab coat to fool people.
Obviously citizen you enjoy life in Lenin Prospekt, our new sustainable human habitat. Please be assured that the excess and unsustainable lifestyle of the American masses will soon cease.
I mean look at this, here someone is thinking of mucking around with the planet far worse than people driving in their cars and cows passing gas, like dumping million of tons of sulfur into the atmosphere or painting large parts of the planet white or shading the planet from the sun from orbit...
believe me whoever comes up with these halfbaked (http://www.halfbakery.com) ideas has no clue what could happen.
I'm pretty much sick and tired of all this UN global warming FUD and so here we are stuck with yet another debate on bad science, bought science and science with an agenda and then we'll move on to what science as an organized religion has in common with say catholicism and clamor for the excommunication of the heretics who dare question the holy doctrines.
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I took the liberty of following the link of your sig to the site where you are
advertising for support of your amateur movie project, http:/// griefmovie dot com.
Looking at that site's whois record, you obviously decline to reveal your identity
by listing Domains By Proxy.
Seeing that you accept donations using paypal on that site I looked up your merchant
details. The number you list as a customer service line is not assigned. The number
starts with 212-555-xxxx.
I now have reason to believe that you are engaging in fraudulent activities and following
your logic I could search your person and your premises for evidence of fraud, tax
evasion and violation of immigration law. I did report my findings to Paypal btw.
--"You need to find out for yourself what the moral thing is. I believe it is moral to help people gain access to information, so I'd do it. Do you?"
I'm sorry but the _moral_ thing would be to report their attempts at
circumvention to their school.
What you mean is to look at what the _ethical_ thing to do is and
as far as I'm concerned that is indeed to help people gain access to
any and all information.
There is a difference between morals and ethics. Very loosely put,
morals are external constraints on the individual by society.
Ethics is determining which morals serve society and which do not.
--"I am sorry, but that overrules a lot of privacy concerns for me. I am that most rare of slashdot readers. A middle of the roader. A moderate."
Right but when you're out on the road without a map - and listening to you
throwing our civil liberties overboard tells me this: you're lost.
I think this is pretty exciting. Just think what it would be
like the day we discover earth like planets all over the galaxy?
Wouldn't we just _have_ to drop everything else we're doing and
find a way of getting there?
Sex with children is yet another sickening fact of life that goes back for
thousands of yearsand will still be around long after the internet is gone.
Sadly child molestation is not even by far the worst thing to happen
to a child. War and starvation are what KILL hundreds of thousands
of children each year(!), and do speak to that little african girl
who had her right leg blown away if she'd rather stripped and danced
naked in front of dirty old men than step on that Made in U.S.A
land mine. Talk of old men abusing children, that little girl had
a virtual sit on Donald Rumsfeld's abusive lap instead.
That's as far as the hubris here is concerned, now how about the
civil liberties angle. Here we have the "Uuuuh, uuuh it's for the
children"angle yet again but what is next? Does our sociophobic
sour drop gobbling citizen vigilante get to break into our homes
next and search them forillegal substances? Does he get the right to
assault me on a street and go through my pockets??
Slaves,
When your masters gives you something, you take it. I'm giving you a nice
new collar so you can't hide or run away. The global plantation has
grown to such a size we just have to have smart chains and collars.
If they want the DHS can see everything you do on the net and they can
certainly look through your account to see what sites you are signed up with.
They have to do work for it though right now, tap your connection to see
what mail addresses you are using and then subpoena those mail providers.
That's besides the point though. A scheme like OpenID when centralized
and mandatory makes it easy for them... and of course it's a boon for
sales and marketing.
--"1996 called, they want you back."
I would love to get as far back as 1976. There was a lot more freedom
those days.
Enjoy your DHS single signon identification for the internet. Fight Terror, protect the children,
live a miserable life and earn miles with each voluntary vaccination.
I was talking about where infrastructure like OpenID single signon can take us. You obviously
don't want to go there.
I am not going to work on this thread when it's modded down to 0.
Thank you for your knee jerk reaction but I was talking about what's
around the corner once schemes like OpenID are widely adopted.
Who else woke up this morning to smell the fascism?
... the balance immediately tips over to the negative once infrastructure .. and then locked down and made mandatory.
While it sounds like a great idea in fact... it is not. On the pro
side people don't have to keep lists of their accounts and passwords
across many sites and sites have a standardized mechanism to rely on...
like OpenID is established
Think what it could be like when sites only accept OpenID authentication
coming from certain sources like the provider your IP is originating
from? Take it one step further, think what it would be like to authenticate
with your OpenID URL to get onto the internet itself?
The idea sucks and I didn't even get started on how it allows the operator
of an OpenID authentication service to track which sites you go to.
Why indeed?
And call me troll all you want but why can't they hack our
computers if they make them in the first place?
Explanation is another word for theory and theirs is yet another.
Normal mobile phones are "secure" when you have locked them ...and so resetting these stolen fingerprint phone to pristine
to the inserted sim (i.e. locked it to country/network _and_
sim serial number) and activated mandatory pin entry. Then
the phone will refuse any other sim but the one present when
that simlock was set and force you to present PIN1 to that
sim. But let's not kid ourselves, there is not a phone out
there that doesn't have details and even original internal
service and diagnostic software leaked...
out-of-the-box factory conditions should be no problem after a
while once command sequences, secret keys and software are leaked.
Which is too bad, because a phone really should turn into a brick
once it is taken from its owner and not at all be capable of
carrying out factory commands once it has been personalized
and put into service... but I disgress...
the fingerprint reader is not about making authenticating yourself
to the phone more convenient, or making the authentication process
more secure.. it's about getting people used to presenting their thumbs
to readers. I know that to some this might sound moronic at first but if you
think about it I believe you can see the point I am making here.
I guess my post was long enough for you to notice then, but too short for you to read. I was
talking about applying de facto "Wikipedia process" to a search engine index. But even with
editors chosen from a random pool there will undoubtedly be ways to force orthodox "consensus"
and if only by installing a fast-track process of dealing with "vandals". You can be certain
that thought outside the box is the last thing Jimmy-jimbo-Wales projects are about.
You should know by now they only cripple useful features people want.
They could put biometrics on phones and then use that to connect the
phone even tighter to you, the actual person. With biometrics on board
the defense you loaned the phone to a third party is gone.
Also you could be called by some agency and ordered to present your
fingerprint at random intervals maybe as part of some probation
monitoring scheme.
--"even though homosexuality is the de facto standard nowadays"
I don't think homosexality is the de facto standard nowadays though I would no doubt
enjoy being in a minority of straight men left to provide pleasure to millions of lonely
and immensely horny women. Ah, the fantasies of male puberty.
As far as homosexual persecution goes, I'll agree with you in that it follows the
ADL standard pattern: "We need special and elevated rights to defend against persecution".
If you know from which Indiana Jones movie this scene is from tell me. I remember Jones facing off
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some huge Samurai with swords in the middle of a market place. The Samurai twirls his swords
and delivers one hell of a impressive martial arts show before challenging Jones to attack.
Jones instead just shrugs, draws his colt and shoots the Samurai point blank.
With this analog in mind, it's easy for me to draw my colt and shoot this long missive down with
one single argument: A Wikipedia-like process for a search engine means Administrators decide
what is worthy of inclusion into the index and what is not. Administrators are voted in by peers
so in order to become one he or she must consistently demonstrate the ruling orthodox attitude.
So in the end we would get a political correct search engine much worse than Google. Connect that
to the Mother Gaia complex deep in your ecosocialist asshole, Wales.
Check out "Administrators" like this ndividual here http://www.google.co.za/search?hl=en&q=SlimVirgin
We got ID cards, chip implants, GPS tracking, polygraphs, MRI scanners,
iris scanners, highly sensitive mikes, DRM coded Sesame Street and
to top things off we have George Monbiot to read to them his latest
rantings on man-made global warming and against all the 911
"conspiracy theorists".
Tell you what, kids don't really even belong in Kindergarten. They should
spend their time in intact families than in the arms of the state.
--"Terrorism. Terrorism. Chemical Attack. Suitcase Nukes, Mooninites weirdass fox news spooks. This is getting boring."
Thanks, that has much better rhythm and meter.
Terrorism. Terrorism. Chemical Attack. Suitcase Nukes, weirdass fox news spooks.
This is getting boring.
--"This issue has now progressed to the point where the majority of people on the planet believe that there is no scientific doubt whatsoever about human influence and more precisely carbon dioxide."
Not to mention the rapidly growing number of people who question the carbon theories.
--"As a believer in the importance of science in all of our lives, I am now getting very nervous about the future reputation of science."
Organized science is about to slam rock hard into religion: it's taking the same fall. People are
indeed getting wise to the politics in and around science. Those of us limited to black and white
are in serious trouble though, because they're running out of colors fast. Up to maybe 250 years
ago you could fool people by wearing a black priest robe. Then came the Age of Enlightenment. After
that you had to put on the white lab coat to fool people.
Obviously citizen you enjoy life in Lenin Prospekt, our new sustainable human habitat.
Please be assured that the excess and unsustainable lifestyle of the American masses
will soon cease.
I mean look at this, here someone is thinking of mucking around with the ...
planet far worse than people driving in their cars and cows passing gas,
like dumping million of tons of sulfur into the atmosphere
or painting large parts of the planet white or shading the planet from the
sun from orbit
believe me whoever comes up with these halfbaked (http://www.halfbakery.com)
ideas has no clue what could happen.
I'm pretty much sick and tired of all this UN global warming FUD
and so here we are stuck with yet another debate on bad science,
bought science and science with an agenda and then we'll move
on to what science as an organized religion has in common with
say catholicism and clamor for the excommunication of the
heretics who dare question the holy doctrines.
test those Cameras in Earth orbit first.