take on intellectual property. Try to publish a cartoon featuring a mermaid or a bunch of talking mice and their _ligitation_ department _will_ open fire on you. Plunder my vision.. indeed.
--"The modern consensus in geology is that there was no single worldwide flood in recent history, so the notion that there might have been any 'antediluvian' texts in the Library of Alexandria is based on a false premise. Wikipedia could have told you this. It could also have told you that text of a sort from as long ago as 3200 BCE still exists.
Are we talking about the same kind of consensus that simply wont date archaelogical sites and artefacts beyond 3600 BCE? As every organized opinion or rather religion, Science has its catechism and dogmas and priests in charge of them. If you fall out of step with "consensus" you will feel the heat: anything from withdrawal of funding to loss of tenure. Wikipedia of course does its very best to toe the line and takes that beyond any real paper and lint encyclopedia. I doubt they point that out in their articles on organized science.
I suppose you posted this to upset people but I still really couldn't agree with you more. If not actively encouraged, those wishing to curb teenage sexuality for their twisted social and religious aims should have no forum. Hell I remember when I was 16... and whoever is reading this, so do you.
No really. Comparing Wikipedia with the Library of Alexandria shows you have idea about the first and are calling the other names with it. The Library of Alexandria contained ancient to possibly even antedeluvian texts, Wikipedia contains valuable information such as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Life_as_a_Teenage_ Robot.
My Life as a Teenage Robot (as abbreviated) stars a mentally 16-year-old 6-foot tall robot girl named XJ-9 (who prefers to be known simply as Jenny)...Jenny likes to go to the mall, fit in at high school, and hang out with her friends Brad and Tuck, instead of saving the world. Her creator (a.k.a. "Mom"), Dr. Wakeman, designed her as a highly sophisticated battle robot and wants her to stay away from the human race.
Just because they're using open source code and even give you whatever source they have to give you, doesn't mean the device is "open" as in you can change any binaries or config settings, add or remove software etc. All the GPL forces them to do is to publish their source code modifications / additions where it applies. It doesn't force them to deliver the binaries on a device that allows modification of that code.
--"But as we move forward and start to deliver more and more complicated services, I think that people for the most part will want to know their government has implemented strong measures [with National ID cards]'."
I don't think we want more and more complicated services nor do we need them. We don't want to be tracked, x-rayed, data-mined or subpoenaed by email. Actually we want less interference in our lives.
I see they are already beyond the simple "lie-detector mode" of the MRI: If you have to think hard about the answer then obviously you're not recalling from memory and are therefore lying or at least editing out parts.
This is very disturbing.
-"..it's not going to be that long before we will be able to tell whether someone's making up a story, or whether someone intended to do a crime with a certain degree of certainty."
Imagine what it would be like if - like mandatory drug testing - you were ordered into a room and attitude-checked with a helmet? When their work on pattern recognition, comes to fruition they could easily discover just how much you hate the government, how much you despise them, just how disaffected you are and how much you sorely need to spend the rest of your now very short life in a labor camp within the arctic circle - classified as a "security risk" and a suspended death sentence hanging over your head.
I for one tell our MRI-toting Overlords to shove it up their asses.
DRM is in of itself not secure because it will get cracked wide open each and every time somebody comes up with a scheme. Take the digital broadcast / subscriber card hacker arms race. They are already light years ahead of whatever Apple or Microsoft are cranking out and they will be well prepared if "trusted computing hardware" comes out.
These people have phisticated lab equipment and are capable of cutting the chips wide open, manipulating chip fuses, patching rom masks etc. They will extract Disney's latest singing and dancing monkey mascot together with the accompanying mermaid from any and all DRM scheme.
Talking of intellectual dishonesty, you are obviously playing word games here. Cancer is one possible result as I said the jury is still out what the long-term consequences are. I could turn around and say your spoon feeding us the pr spiel of the pharma industry, sweetened with aspartame this concoction is full of half-truths and downright lies. As far as I'm concerned you can go and stuff yourself with it, if only you wouldn't roll it in your mouth between spoonfuls. You will find that in the end people are more interested to see what professionals outside the vaccine business have to say.
"This is the shocking but extremely informative video documentary Vaccination - The Hidden Truth (1998) where fifteen people, including Dr. Viera Scheibner (a PhD researcher), five medical doctors, other researchers, reveal what is really going on in relation to illness and vaccines. Ironically, the important facts come from the orthodox medicine's own peer-reviewed research. With so much government and medical promotion of vaccination for prevention of disease, the video is clearly devoted to presenting the other side of the issue that parents and others are not being told. The result is a damning account of the ineffectiveness of vaccines and their often harmful effects. It declares that parents are not being told the truth by the media, the Health Department and the medical establishment, with a medical doctor, Dr. Mark Donohoe, confessing that "It is a problem for me that I am part of a profession that is systematically lying to people?". Find out how vaccines are proven to have harmful effects to your health and why do we still have to be vaccinated although there is no real need for it. Although many people simply refuse to believe this, the impeccable documentation presented in this amazing video has changed the minds of many who saw it. 90 min"
--"Tough choice: your persistently unsubstantiated allegations, or the fact (that you've not even tried to deny) that not a single person has died or sustained lasting ill effects as a result of HPV vaccination?"
Why should I deny what? Cancer takes a lot longer to kill than the couple of months the HPV has been in use and we have no idea what the long-term effects are going to be.
--"The information needed to make an informed decision is out there." Right, and _both_ sides of the story at that much as it may not please you entirely.
I'm putting up a documentary on vaccinations up that people may want to see:
"This is the shocking but extremely informative video documentary Vaccination - The Hidden Truth (1998) where fifteen people, including Dr. Viera Scheibner (a PhD researcher), five medical doctors, other researchers, reveal what is really going on in relation to illness and vaccines. Ironically, the important facts come from the orthodox medicine's own peer-reviewed research. With so much government and medical promotion of vaccination for prevention of disease, the video is clearly devoted to presenting the other side of the issue that parents and others are not being told. The result is a damning account of the ineffectiveness of vaccines and their often harmful effects. It declares that parents are not being told the truth by the media, the Health Department and the medical establishment, with a medical doctor, Dr. Mark Donohoe, confessing that "It is a problem for me that I am part of a profession that is systematically lying to people?". Find out how vaccines are proven to have harmful effects to your health and why do we still have to be vaccinated although there is no real need for it. Although many people simply refuse to believe this, the impeccable documentation presented in this amazing video has changed the minds of many who saw it. 90 min"
I'm also going to put this up higher in the thread so that people see this who do not have the tenacity you do.
--"The fact that pharma companies are not jumping on this particular one whole hog is nothing odd. It will get tested, it will get clinical trials, and if it works that's awesome. But there's no cause to just drop everything else and rush to test this."
Unless of course you happen to be a little out of time, like with a prognosis of having only six months to live. I doubt they'll ask their doctors or the FDA for permission.
--"So, let me get this straight: you criticize my sourcing and accuse me of scare-mongering, and your critique is a misleading article from the professional anti-vaccine lobby?"
As i have pointed out before, if you call the Whitehouse and ask who took out the WTC you will get one answer. If you consider and weigh the evidence yourself, you _may_ arrive at another conclusion. Same thing as far as this new vaccination scheme is concerned. If you ask Governor Perry who signed an order last week to put Gardasil HPV vaccination on the list of _recommended vaccines_ in Texas and that is rescinded as of today to the best of my knowledge - if you ask him he'll tell you what Merck and the CDC are feeding him (he wont mention his kickback though).
If you ask medical experts who are upset with the damage vaccines do to people you will hear a different story. These people get a different kind of kick back from pharma, though this is more like a kick into the rib cage from their lawyers than a juicy $20,000 check and a trip to Jamaica.
As far "professional anti-vaccine lobbying is concerned" -- where I wonder is the money in that? Some people make an extra $100-$150 a month selling a bookthey wrote on their own but Amazon wont carry. That's a lot less than foodstamps and sometimes doesn't even cover the cost of promoting it so they keep paying to put out their message. Anybody in their "right minds" would be well advised to lobby pro pharma:-)
People will undoubtedly find this entire thread when they search for HPV vaccination or Gardasil, I suppose they'll make up their own minds about this who they will listen to.
This one deserves a +5 funny I wish there were a way to mod the articles themselves.
No really, what immensely priceless wisdom is impart4ed here. People who sabotage (IT) systems are disaffected and hate your guts. But tBig Brother and Landru be thanked there is a real simple way to detect these terrorists. They don't borg-smile when they pass you in the hall.
People will just have to learn to pull the plug with a smile.
See subject line. They're hell-bent on locking you out of your machine, the latest Vista antics are just the start, wait til they become enforced in silicone.
--"No lockdown. Though in their default settings, the laptop's security
systems may impose various prohibitions on the user's actions, there must exist a way for these security systems to be disabled. When that is the case, the machine will grant the user complete control."
That is the one of the key differences between Bitfrost and Microsoft "trusted computing" schemes: you as owner of the box can get around it.
I want to see you try that. Chances are they'll just gun you down and not bother to arrest you. People have tried in the past and failed miserably. To get through a checkpoint you'd have to _be_ the guy you're trying to impersonate and I don't mean just fake iris contact lense and fake thumbprints. You'd have to pass biometric face recognition, voice recogntion and then you'd still have to have the same body shape if they got see-through infrared imaging. Oh and at the newer checkpoints downtown they would still bust you because there they have computers that look for the way you walk and move and they do genetic spot checks there.
take on intellectual property. Try to publish a cartoon featuring a mermaid or a
bunch of talking mice and their _ligitation_ department _will_ open fire on you.
Plunder my vision.. indeed.
--"The modern consensus in geology is that there was no single worldwide flood in recent history, so the notion that there might have been any 'antediluvian' texts in the Library of Alexandria is based on a false premise. Wikipedia could have told you this. It could also have told you that text of a sort from as long ago as 3200 BCE still exists.
Are we talking about the same kind of consensus that simply wont date
archaelogical sites and artefacts beyond 3600 BCE? As every organized
opinion or rather religion, Science has its catechism and dogmas and
priests in charge of them. If you fall out of step with "consensus"
you will feel the heat: anything from withdrawal of funding to loss of
tenure. Wikipedia of course does its very best to toe the line and
takes that beyond any real paper and lint encyclopedia. I doubt they
point that out in their articles on organized science.
I suppose you posted this to upset people but I still really couldn't agree with you more. ... and
If not actively encouraged, those wishing to curb teenage sexuality for their twisted
social and religious aims should have no forum. Hell I remember when I was 16
whoever is reading this, so do you.
No really. Comparing Wikipedia with the Library of Alexandria shows you have idea_ Robot.
about the first and are calling the other names with it. The Library of Alexandria
contained ancient to possibly even antedeluvian texts, Wikipedia contains valuable
information such as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Life_as_a_Teenage
My Life as a Teenage Robot (as abbreviated) stars a mentally 16-year-old 6-foot tall
robot girl named XJ-9 (who prefers to be known simply as Jenny)...Jenny likes to go
to the mall, fit in at high school, and hang out with her friends Brad and Tuck,
instead of saving the world. Her creator (a.k.a. "Mom"), Dr. Wakeman, designed her
as a highly sophisticated battle robot and wants her to stay away from the human race.
Shhhh... you're stirring up the profanes.
The upcoming version of Windows is codenamed "East Berlin".
Just because they're using open source code and even give you whatever
source they have to give you, doesn't mean the device is "open" as in
you can change any binaries or config settings, add or remove software
etc. All the GPL forces them to do is to publish their source code
modifications / additions where it applies. It doesn't force them to
deliver the binaries on a device that allows modification of that code.
You still have to discover the wonderful world of biometrics.
I think he meant expanding government and putting every of our _moves_ "online", where we go
to, who we associate with, what we are interested in etc.
So you don't want to talk to the people at the DMV anymore? Fine. Talk directly to Homeland Security
instead.
No further comment beyond that.
--"But as we move forward and start to deliver more and more complicated services, I think that people for the most
part will want to know their government has implemented strong measures [with National ID cards]'."
I don't think we want more and more complicated services nor do we need them. We don't want to be tracked,
x-rayed, data-mined or subpoenaed by email. Actually we want less interference in our lives.
34 States have turned down a national ID card.
I see they are already beyond the simple "lie-detector
mode" of the MRI: If you have to think hard about the
answer then obviously you're not recalling from memory
and are therefore lying or at least editing out parts.
This is very disturbing.
-"..it's not going to be that long before we will be able to tell whether someone's making up a story, or whether someone intended to do a crime with a certain degree of certainty."
Imagine what it would be like if - like mandatory drug
testing - you were ordered into a room and attitude-checked
with a helmet? When their work on pattern recognition,
comes to fruition they could easily discover just how much
you hate the government, how much you despise them,
just how disaffected you are and how much you sorely need to
spend the rest of your now very short life in a labor
camp within the arctic circle - classified as a "security
risk" and a suspended death sentence hanging over your head.
I for one tell our MRI-toting Overlords to shove it up their asses.
DRM is in of itself not secure because it will get cracked wide open each and every time
somebody comes up with a scheme. Take the digital broadcast / subscriber card hacker arms
race. They are already light years ahead of whatever Apple or Microsoft are cranking out
and they will be well prepared if "trusted computing hardware" comes out.
These people have phisticated lab equipment and are capable of cutting the chips wide open,
manipulating chip fuses, patching rom masks etc. They will extract Disney's latest singing
and dancing monkey mascot together with the accompanying mermaid from any and all DRM scheme.
--"The other men were not familiar, but a quick glance at their cards told me they were detectives on our campus police force."
_Detectives_ of the campus police force. What's next? Agents of the Campus Intelligence Agency?
the Department of Campus Security?
This is really ridiculous.
Talking of intellectual dishonesty, you are obviously playing word games here. Cancer is one possible
result as I said the jury is still out what the long-term consequences are. I could turn around
and say your spoon feeding us the pr spiel of the pharma industry, sweetened with aspartame this
concoction is full of half-truths and downright lies. As far as I'm concerned you can go and
stuff yourself with it, if only you wouldn't roll it in your mouth between spoonfuls. You will find that
in the end people are more interested to see what professionals outside the vaccine business have
to say.
I'd rather hang on to x-y-z antivirus than have a secure
digital fortress where the guards tell _me_ what to do.
Vaccination - The Hidden Truth
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=861055467
"This is the shocking but extremely informative video documentary Vaccination -
The Hidden Truth (1998) where fifteen people, including Dr. Viera Scheibner
(a PhD researcher), five medical doctors, other researchers, reveal what is really
going on in relation to illness and vaccines. Ironically, the important facts come
from the orthodox medicine's own peer-reviewed research. With so much government
and medical promotion of vaccination for prevention of disease, the video is clearly
devoted to presenting the other side of the issue that parents and others are not
being told. The result is a damning account of the ineffectiveness of vaccines
and their often harmful effects. It declares that parents are not being told the
truth by the media, the Health Department and the medical establishment, with a
medical doctor, Dr. Mark Donohoe, confessing that "It is a problem for me that I am
part of a profession that is systematically lying to people?". Find out how vaccines
are proven to have harmful effects to your health and why do we still have to be vaccinated
although there is no real need for it. Although many people simply refuse to believe
this, the impeccable documentation presented in this amazing video has changed the
minds of many who saw it. 90 min"
--"Tough choice: your persistently unsubstantiated allegations, or the fact (that you've not even tried to deny) that not a single person has died or sustained lasting ill effects as a result of HPV vaccination?"
9 207090010
Why should I deny what? Cancer takes a lot longer to kill than the couple of months the HPV has
been in use and we have no idea what the long-term effects are going to be.
--"The information needed to make an informed decision is out there."
Right, and _both_ sides of the story at that much as it may not please you entirely.
I'm putting up a documentary on vaccinations up that people may want to see:
Vaccination - The Hidden Truth
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=861055467
"This is the shocking but extremely informative video documentary Vaccination -
The Hidden Truth (1998) where fifteen people, including Dr. Viera Scheibner
(a PhD researcher), five medical doctors, other researchers, reveal what is really
going on in relation to illness and vaccines. Ironically, the important facts come
from the orthodox medicine's own peer-reviewed research. With so much government
and medical promotion of vaccination for prevention of disease, the video is clearly
devoted to presenting the other side of the issue that parents and others are not
being told. The result is a damning account of the ineffectiveness of vaccines
and their often harmful effects. It declares that parents are not being told the
truth by the media, the Health Department and the medical establishment, with a
medical doctor, Dr. Mark Donohoe, confessing that "It is a problem for me that I am
part of a profession that is systematically lying to people?". Find out how vaccines
are proven to have harmful effects to your health and why do we still have to be vaccinated
although there is no real need for it. Although many people simply refuse to believe
this, the impeccable documentation presented in this amazing video has changed the
minds of many who saw it. 90 min"
I'm also going to put this up higher in the thread so that people see this who do
not have the tenacity you do.
--"The fact that pharma companies are not jumping on this particular one whole hog is nothing odd. It will get tested, it will get clinical trials, and if it works that's awesome. But there's no cause to just drop everything else and rush to test this."
Unless of course you happen to be a little out of time, like with a prognosis of having only six months to live.
I doubt they'll ask their doctors or the FDA for permission.
--"So, let me get this straight: you criticize my sourcing and accuse me of scare-mongering, and your critique is a misleading article from the professional anti-vaccine lobby?"
:-)
As i have pointed out before, if you call the Whitehouse and ask who took out the WTC you will get
one answer. If you consider and weigh the evidence yourself, you _may_ arrive at another conclusion.
Same thing as far as this new vaccination scheme is concerned. If you ask Governor Perry who signed an
order last week to put Gardasil HPV vaccination on the list of _recommended vaccines_ in Texas and that
is rescinded as of today to the best of my knowledge - if you ask him he'll tell you what Merck and the
CDC are feeding him (he wont mention his kickback though).
If you ask medical experts who are upset with the damage vaccines do to people you will hear a different
story. These people get a different kind of kick back from pharma, though this is more like a kick into
the rib cage from their lawyers than a juicy $20,000 check and a trip to Jamaica.
As far "professional anti-vaccine lobbying is concerned" -- where I wonder is the money in that?
Some people make an extra $100-$150 a month selling a bookthey wrote on their own but Amazon wont carry.
That's a lot less than foodstamps and sometimes doesn't even cover the cost of promoting it so they
keep paying to put out their message. Anybody in their "right minds" would be well advised to lobby
pro pharma
People will undoubtedly find this entire thread when they search for HPV vaccination or Gardasil,
I suppose they'll make up their own minds about this who they will listen to.
--"And automate the whole process. If privileged password management is not on your shopping list in 2007 it may already be too late.""
All that is missing in this FUD piece is of course the obligtory
"We happen to have a solution, btw, give us a call."
This one deserves a +5 funny I wish there were a way to mod the articles themselves.
No really, what immensely priceless wisdom is impart4ed here. People who sabotage (IT) systems are disaffected
and hate your guts. But tBig Brother and Landru be thanked there is a real simple way to detect these terrorists.
They don't borg-smile when they pass you in the hall.
People will just have to learn to pull the plug with a smile.
See subject line. They're hell-bent on locking you out of your
machine, the latest Vista antics are just the start, wait til
they become enforced in silicone.
--"No lockdown. Though in their default settings, the laptop's security
systems may impose various prohibitions on the user's actions, there
must exist a way for these security systems to be disabled. When that is
the case, the machine will grant the user complete control."
That is the one of the key differences between Bitfrost and Microsoft
"trusted computing" schemes: you as owner of the box can get around it.
I want to see you try that. Chances are they'll just gun you down and not bother to
arrest you. People have tried in the past and failed miserably. To get through a
checkpoint you'd have to _be_ the guy you're trying to impersonate and I don't
mean just fake iris contact lense and fake thumbprints. You'd have to pass
biometric face recognition, voice recogntion and then you'd still have to have
the same body shape if they got see-through infrared imaging. Oh and at the newer
checkpoints downtown they would still bust you because there they have computers
that look for the way you walk and move and they do genetic spot checks there.