You have an interesting point there, because it may well be that an advanced civilization contacting us may just as well ignore our "leadership" and address us directly maybe individually or in larger groups...
I'm with you a 100% on this one. Since you spoke as a scientist, I'll continue as a computer geek then:
"...and its thought that REM sleep may be necessary for memory consolidation."
I don't think that skipping out to much on garbage collection is a good idea.
And you're right. At least for me, cognitive abilities and memory degrades after after 16 hours of "uptime" and largely ceases after 24. I have made some of my worst, almost deadly mistakes after 32 hours when sleep deprivation euphoria fooled me into thinking I was wide awake, capable and ready for it.
"I don't need the government telling me what I can and can't do with my body, and if they are going to try to, I'm going to push back just as hard, especially when they want to do such things as monitor it."
They're not so much concerned whether you might drink a gallon of chlorox and so deprive them of years of labor of what would otherwise have been a fine slave.However they're extremely unhappy with anything you put into your body that leaves you alive and well.. and out of their control.
Uh of course youre right. I just got carried away still thinking in obsolete terms, of course there are few dictatorships left on the planet, such as North Korea or Iran. All the other countries that are our friends but where people get their faces kicked, or are disappeared, or outrightly executed in public for speaking out loud... I wonder what we call those? Ah yes, I remember, we call them Preferred Trade Partner or even Ally.
As far as slavery is concerned, when the national average is bleeding gums from malnutrition and a bust nose from a rifle butt, you don't need fences to lock people in to work for a fifty cents a day. You only need the fences and guards when you're working say women for food and you don't want to lose them to sweatshops that offer them a dime a day.
And I didn't even start to talk about all the letter agency spooks and hired troops down there working hand in hand to keep the dictatorships in power so that Pedro keeps growing tons of Marijuana while wife Maria and little baby girl Juana toil for a dollar a day in a corporate sweatshop...
Notable graduates Country Graduates Argentina Leopoldo Galtieri, Roberto Eduardo Viola Bolivia Hugo Banzer Suárez Ecuador Guillermo Rodríguez El Salvador Roberto D'Aubuisson Guatemala Efraín Ríos Montt Panama Manuel Noriega, Omar Torrijos Peru Vladimiro Montesinos, Juan Velasco Alvarado Venezuela Juan Manuel Sucre Figarella
to name a few.
US Training Manual
See also: Torture manuals
On September 20, 1996, the Pentagon released seven training manuals prepared by the U.S. military and used between 1987 and 1991 for intelligence training courses in Latin America and at the U.S. Army School of the Americas (SOA). According to the Third World Traveler, these manuals show how U.S. agents taught repressive techniques and promoted the violation of human rights throughout Latin America and around the globe. [6]
[edit] Human rights abuses
The SOA has been accused of training members of governments guilty of serious human rights abuses and have been found to advocate techniques that violate accepted international standards, particularly the Geneva Conventions. Graduates of the SOA include men such as Hugo Banzer Suárez, Leopoldo Galtieri, Manuel Noriega, Efraín Ríos Montt, Vladimiro Montesinos, Guillermo Rodríguez, Omar Torrijos, Roberto Viola, Roberto D'Aubuisson, Victor Escobar and Juan Velasco Alvarado. [7] Because many of its students have been associated with death squads, and coups in Latin American countries, the school's acronym is reparsed by its detractors as the "School of the Assassins".
By 2010 when they stop activating Office 2003 or earlier you will then most likely find a patch that makes activation for that product unnecessary. The only real reason for going through "activation" right now with a "authentic product key" is because you want to get the latest fixes and patches. You may want to archive these however so Microsoft can't take them away when it's time for Office "Oddysee" 2010.
It was the stormiest demonstration in Bil'in for some time. Clouds of tear gas, salvoes of stun grenades were showered on the 300 demonstrators - Palestinians, Israelis and internationals - who marched again to protest against the wall in this village, as they have done every Friday for than 20 months...
No life fire though, but I recall reading on indymedia maybe two or three years back about a similar joint jewish-arab protest where the Israeli police opened fire with regular guns.
I have no idea what the Palestinian Govt, Hizbullah or the Iranian Government wants, but I can sure guess what 99% of all Palestinians, Lebanese and Iranians and Israelis do not want: Missiles crashing through their living rooms and exploding in their bedrooms. You will find people who often see that happen in their lives to resort to cruder rethoric or their leaders may attempt to capitalize on that.
"Antisemitism" is the fuel that feeds the Moloch's fire here and without that and the constant pressure from inside and outside its borders, this little South Africa reloaded with all its segregation and homelands would have exploded long ago. So why not learn tolerance indeed? Some time ago I heard about Jews and Arabs demonstrating hand in hand for peace in Israel. They reacted by firing live rounds into the demonstration not caring who the hit, Jew or Arab, because they certainly can't have that. It'd be the Death of Israel.
Apparently for some reason you equate the dissolution of the legal entity "The State of Israel" with the deaths of millions of people. The Germans have survived the deaths and births of more such legal entities than you can shake a stick at. Surely, you're just as hardy a people.
It is not important what Israel pays lip service to, it's what they do and that is mind-shatteringly gruesome. I'm sure they would prefer to do their genocide in private without the world watching but with the internet... I just went to youtube and this is what I immediately came up with and I wasn't even looking hard.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WaCJn4hdjc Here. Watch this little girl scream in grief after an Israeli gun boat had just wiped out her entire family... because they were having a picnic on Gaza beach.
Since you're so upset here Krell, I'll assume you're an Israeli and if so it sucks to be you because you're at risk of losing life and limb everyday you get on a bus or go to a public place.. Not because you're jewish but simply because yet one more Palestinian has decided life is not worth living without the friends and family your government killed in the barbed wire walled-in in hell they call Gaza and therefore got on the bus with you with twenty pounds of semtex strapped to his belly.
I(tm) will so totally _own_(R) the place(tm), I will have robot(tm) Kangaroos(R) jumping all over the place(R) to collect(tm) the dues(tm) and license(R) fees(tm).
On a more serious note, let's see how they're going to enforce _that_ first. There are not enough handcuffs on that entire continent even if fourteen "criminals" shared a pair.
So following your warped logic, because I downright loathe and despise a cruel, murderous regime I hate the people that have to suffer because of it?
I should hate all Germans for Hitler, all Russians for Stalin, all the Brits for their genocidical policies in Ireland, all the French for what they did in Polynesia, all Americans for what they're doing to South America... and now following your logic I am apparently supposed to hate the average working Israeli middle-class family who are just like every else on the planet trying to keep their heads above the water.
Sorry buddy, but I'm still taking the easy way out of this one. Instead of hating poor Israeli Nazitrooper Herschel here who just broke that Palestinian girl's leg with a rifle but (per IDF regulation I might add!!!!!) I will concentrate that hatred on the system that turned a perfect kid like Herschel into such a piece of shit.
I wonder how much more hasbara is coming my way here?
1. The historic facts anyone can verify with a brain and an internet connection. Be sure to look up "Haganah" when you do.
2. While I am not my wife is jewish and so are therefore my children. I can't say that I am antisemite, especially because she's sephardic and therefore semitic as opposed to the azhkenazi "ruling" contingent in Israel which is anything but semite.
You reaction is the expected knee jerk to muddle the issue by softly moaning "antisemitism! antisemitism!". While you're showing off your fine knee I think I'm providing some interesting pointers for people to follow up on.
... and a disingenious one at. It was the British who forced immigrant jews at gunpoint on the Palestinians in a country that was then known as Palestine, and it were the zionist Haganah terror commandoes who immediately thereafter started gunning down Palestinian families and burning their homesteads while the British looked the other way.
Look there is not nearly as much support for the "Israel" as the propaganda in the western media might make you believe. True they've been proselytizing it here for decades, but I think there is just not enough fluoride in the water here for people to swallow it.
The world would indeed be a better place if you got rid of the Uberzionist Herrenmenschen who own your pussies and got you to believe it is okay to slaughter people for the labor and land. Go ahead and complain to your ADL or your JDL or wherever you turn to for that.
Some times when it is a slow terror day, the Israelis will bomb one of their own school buses so lets go behind the movie screen here where you will find our good shepherds of the sheeple feuding each other. This is where that kind of technology is used and on people whose names never make it to the other side of the screen.
Really, how do you defend against something like that? An assassin no larger than a honey bee, the next generation not larger than an ant... You would have to spend the rest of your life in a hermetically sealed room with an airlock.
Scary as it seems I think this kind of technology could be a great leveller, upping security precautions to the untenable and thus denying the current elites freedom of movement and at the same time diminishing their well-being... all in a world where a tilted window can spell death for this people:-). Im all for it!
Theyre hurt by Linux so bad and without any other defense than resorting to FUDge. Not a smart move Ballmer, with hundreds of thousands of Linux evangelists out there putting that into perspective for the customers. Linux is taking over hard and the Solaris people feel it (even though if you got Solaris youre imho downgrading). Then theres IBM, ORACLE etc. to contend with... theyll whip your lawsuits out of court until you "blue screen".
I'm not so sure whether they could build another dome like the ones in Cologne or Paderborn or a cathedral like Notre Dame today. Why they even admitted they couldn't build simple structures like the Gizeh pyramid.
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You have an interesting point there, because it may well be that an advanced civilization
contacting us may just as well ignore our "leadership" and address us directly maybe
individually or in larger groups...
I'm with you a 100% on this one. Since you spoke as a scientist, I'll continue
as a computer geek then:
"...and its thought that REM sleep may be necessary for memory consolidation."
I don't think that skipping out to much on garbage collection is a good
idea.
And you're right. At least for me, cognitive abilities and memory degrades after
after 16 hours of "uptime" and largely ceases after 24. I have made some of my
worst, almost deadly mistakes after 32 hours when sleep deprivation euphoria
fooled me into thinking I was wide awake, capable and ready for it.
"I don't need the government telling me what I can and can't do with my body, and if they are going to try to, I'm going to push back just as hard, especially when they want to do such things as monitor it."
.. and out of their control.
They're not so much concerned whether you might drink a gallon of chlorox and so
deprive them of years of labor of what would otherwise have been a fine
slave.However they're extremely unhappy with anything you put into your body
that leaves you alive and well
Uh of course youre right. I just got carried away still thinking in obsolete terms, of course
there are few dictatorships left on the planet, such as North Korea or Iran. All the other
countries that are our friends but where people get their faces kicked, or are disappeared,
or outrightly executed in public for speaking out loud... I wonder what we call those? Ah
yes, I remember, we call them Preferred Trade Partner or even Ally.
As far as slavery is concerned, when the national average is bleeding gums from
malnutrition and a bust nose from a rifle butt, you don't need fences to lock people in to
work for a fifty cents a day. You only need the fences and guards when you're working say women
for food and you don't want to lose them to sweatshops that offer them a dime a day.
I just thought it was an intriguing allegation, I have no idea whether this has any bearing
on Palestine.
And I didn't even start to talk about all the letter agency spooks and hired troops down there
working hand in hand to keep the dictatorships in power so that Pedro keeps growing tons of Marijuana
while wife Maria and little baby girl Juana toil for a dollar a day in a corporate sweatshop...
Here's the scoop on the SOA from Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/School_of_the_americas
Notable graduates
Country Graduates
Argentina Leopoldo Galtieri, Roberto Eduardo Viola
Bolivia Hugo Banzer Suárez
Ecuador Guillermo Rodríguez
El Salvador Roberto D'Aubuisson
Guatemala Efraín Ríos Montt
Panama Manuel Noriega, Omar Torrijos
Peru Vladimiro Montesinos, Juan Velasco Alvarado
Venezuela Juan Manuel Sucre Figarella
to name a few.
US Training Manual
See also: Torture manuals
On September 20, 1996, the Pentagon released seven training manuals prepared by the U.S. military and used between 1987 and 1991 for intelligence training courses in Latin America and at the U.S. Army School of the Americas (SOA). According to the Third World Traveler, these manuals show how U.S. agents taught repressive techniques and promoted the violation of human rights throughout Latin America and around the globe. [6]
[edit] Human rights abuses
The SOA has been accused of training members of governments guilty of serious human rights abuses and have been found to advocate techniques that violate accepted international standards, particularly the Geneva Conventions. Graduates of the SOA include men such as Hugo Banzer Suárez, Leopoldo Galtieri, Manuel Noriega, Efraín Ríos Montt, Vladimiro Montesinos, Guillermo Rodríguez, Omar Torrijos, Roberto Viola, Roberto D'Aubuisson, Victor Escobar and Juan Velasco Alvarado. [7] Because many of its students have been associated with death squads, and coups in Latin American countries, the school's acronym is reparsed by its detractors as the "School of the Assassins".
I didn't find anything in the WP article. I can only guess, but are you saying that
they used Office 97 to create false documents?
By 2010 when they stop activating Office 2003 or earlier you will then most likely find a patch
that makes activation for that product unnecessary. The only real reason for going through
"activation" right now with a "authentic product key" is because you want to get the latest fixes
and patches. You may want to archive these however so Microsoft can't take them away when it's
time for Office "Oddysee" 2010.
Actually there seems to be a lot of jewish-arab cooperation going on, just type
8 506/
the keywords jew arab joint protest into google...
http://gush-shalom.org/actions/27demo_eng.html
Here's one where the Israeli state also attacked jews:
http://zope.gush-shalom.org/home/en/events/116198
It was the stormiest demonstration in Bil'in for some time. Clouds of tear gas, salvoes of stun grenades were showered on the 300 demonstrators - Palestinians, Israelis and internationals - who marched again to protest against the wall in this village, as they have done every Friday for than 20 months...
No life fire though, but I recall reading on indymedia maybe two or three years back
about a similar joint jewish-arab protest where the Israeli police opened fire with regular
guns.
"Death to the Jews, starting with Israel"
I have no idea what the Palestinian Govt, Hizbullah or the Iranian Government wants, but I can sure guess
what 99% of all Palestinians, Lebanese and Iranians and Israelis do not want: Missiles crashing
through their living rooms and exploding in their bedrooms. You will find people who often see that
happen in their lives to resort to cruder rethoric or their leaders may attempt to capitalize on that.
"Antisemitism" is the fuel that feeds the Moloch's fire here and without that and the constant pressure from
inside and outside its borders, this little South Africa reloaded with all its segregation and homelands would have
exploded long ago. So why not learn tolerance indeed? Some time ago I heard about Jews and Arabs demonstrating
hand in hand for peace in Israel. They reacted by firing live rounds into the demonstration not caring who
the hit, Jew or Arab, because they certainly can't have that. It'd be the Death of Israel.
You know what, it's the cooperative weirdo like you that has me scared.
Apparently for some reason you equate the dissolution of the legal entity "The State of Israel"
with the deaths of millions of people. The Germans have survived the deaths and births of more
such legal entities than you can shake a stick at. Surely, you're just as hardy a people.
"You have it backwards. You blame the victims of genocide, and actually have the gall to call them the perpetrators of it."
You mean the twenty year old concentration camp survivor sniper who pulled the trigger on a palestinian 12-year old girl?
It is not important what Israel pays lip service to, it's what they do and that is mind-shatteringly
... because they were having a picnic on Gaza beach.
e lated&search= Here. Israeli soldiers shooting unarmed ...
gruesome. I'm sure they would prefer to do their genocide in private without the world watching but
with the internet... I just went to youtube and this is what I immediately came up with and I wasn't even
looking hard.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WaCJn4hdjc Here. Watch this little girl scream in grief after an Israeli
gun boat had just wiped out her entire family
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEv-HSz2Zj4&mode=r
protesting women.
Since you're so upset here Krell, I'll assume you're an Israeli and if so it sucks to be you because you're
at risk of losing life and limb everyday you get on a bus or go to a public place.. Not because you're
jewish but simply because yet one more Palestinian has decided life is not worth living without the
friends and family your government killed in the barbed wire walled-in in hell they call Gaza and therefore
got on the bus with you with twenty pounds of semtex strapped to his belly.
I(tm) will so totally _own_(R) the place(tm), I will have robot(tm) Kangaroos(R)
jumping all over the place(R) to collect(tm) the dues(tm) and license(R)
fees(tm).
On a more serious note, let's see how they're going to enforce _that_ first. There
are not enough handcuffs on that entire continent even if fourteen "criminals" shared a
pair.
Have a look just at the tip of that iceberg. The School of the Americas is not about earning
a degree in rural science.
I'm sorry, but genocidal regimes don't believe in that.
So following your warped logic, because I downright loathe and despise a cruel, murderous regime
I hate the people that have to suffer because of it?
I should hate all Germans for Hitler, all Russians for Stalin, all the Brits for their genocidical
policies in Ireland, all the French for what they did in Polynesia, all Americans for what they're
doing to South America... and now following your logic I am apparently supposed to hate the average
working Israeli middle-class family who are just like every else on the planet trying to keep their
heads above the water.
Sorry buddy, but I'm still taking the easy way out of this one. Instead of hating poor Israeli Nazitrooper
Herschel here who just broke that Palestinian girl's leg with a rifle but (per IDF regulation I might add!!!!!) I
will concentrate that hatred on the system that turned a perfect kid like Herschel into such a piece of
shit.
I wonder how much more hasbara is coming my way here?
1. The historic facts anyone can verify with a brain and an internet connection.
Be sure to look up "Haganah" when you do.
2. While I am not my wife is jewish and so are therefore my children. I can't say
that I am antisemite, especially because she's sephardic and therefore
semitic as opposed to the azhkenazi "ruling" contingent in Israel which is anything
but semite.
You reaction is the expected knee jerk to muddle the issue by softly moaning
"antisemitism! antisemitism!". While you're showing off your fine knee I think I'm
providing some interesting pointers for people to follow up on.
... and a disingenious one at. It was the British who forced immigrant jews at gunpoint on the
Palestinians in a country that was then known as Palestine, and it were the zionist Haganah
terror commandoes who immediately thereafter started gunning down Palestinian families and
burning their homesteads while the British looked the other way.
Look there is not nearly as much support for the "Israel" as the propaganda in the western media
might make you believe. True they've been proselytizing it here for decades, but I think there
is just not enough fluoride in the water here for people to swallow it.
The world would indeed be a better place if you got rid of the Uberzionist Herrenmenschen who own
your pussies and got you to believe it is okay to slaughter people for the labor and land. Go
ahead and complain to your ADL or your JDL or wherever you turn to for that.
Some times when it is a slow terror day, the Israelis will bomb one of their own school buses so lets
go behind the movie screen here where you will find our good shepherds of the sheeple feuding each other.
This is where that kind of technology is used and on people whose names never make it to the other side
of the screen.
Really, how do you defend against something like that? An assassin no larger than a honey bee,
:-). Im all for it!
the next generation not larger than an ant... You would have to spend the rest of your life
in a hermetically sealed room with an airlock.
Scary as it seems I think this kind of technology could be a great leveller, upping security
precautions to the untenable and thus denying the current elites freedom of movement and at
the same time diminishing their well-being... all in a world where a tilted window can spell
death for this people
Stuff like that gets reengineered or stolen and then its used against the Israeli elite.
Theyre hurt by Linux so bad and without any other defense than resorting to
FUDge. Not a smart move Ballmer, with hundreds of thousands of Linux evangelists
out there putting that into perspective for the customers. Linux is taking over
hard and the Solaris people feel it (even though if you got Solaris youre imho
downgrading). Then theres IBM, ORACLE etc. to contend with... theyll whip your
lawsuits out of court until you "blue screen".
I'm not so sure whether they could build another dome like the ones in Cologne or Paderborn or a cathedral like Notre Dame today. Why they even admitted they couldn't build simple structures like the Gizeh pyramid.