Some of them, yes, but IIRC I had to reboot at least once for some newer type of kernel module thingy.
It's not that I really *mind* a reboot every now and then, as long as it can be somewhat scheduled. I was just correcting the GP who stated that you could go from Old to Current in one go. That's simply not always true.
2. Multiple reboots: [...] Try a similar test on any Linux distro (pick a CD as old as you want), notice how you only need to reboot once to have all of the updates apply.
I did. Ubuntu required me to upgrade in steps, at least when going from 6.04 PPC to... can't remember exactly which version, but I think it was three dist-upgrades, the last of which broke video.
Other phone operating systems did not have a legacy installed base to worry about, while MS has to be concerned about this, which also hamstrung 7.0's development.
Yet from what I've heard, WinPho7 won't run WinMo6 apps. That kinda kills the legacy argument. I think they *do* have a legacy to consider, though: the users. Changing the UI like they did, killing binary compatiblity and some other stuff, that takes balls.
WinPho7 is the first Microsoft announcement - it's not a product until it hits the shelves - that has me interested. Ever.
"The robots evolved" - WTF?! People kept training the neural network to create desirable functionality, without people training the neural network and doing "mutations" those robots would have evolved as much as a lightbulb stuck up somebody's arse!
Isn't that what evolution is all about?
Changing to get desirable functionality/traits, that is, not shoving lightbulb up people's arses.
Suddenly, it occurs to me that WindowMaker appears very touch-friendly to me. Big, clear targets. Calling up menus would prolly be a several-finger exercise, but still.
...but then there's the news of 2009 being a record-breaking year in terms of profit. So...
Of course, you're completely right: "they" will blame "piracy" for everything. The/. crowd might know better, but the general populace not so much. That means we still have a lot of educating to do. =]
I have the impression you're talking about the number of features. They are not the only factor for large parts of market, when low price, lack of GPRS in the cell network anyway or, yes, easy to use UI are also important.
No, not just the number of feateres, more how those features are implemented. Take something basic like SMS: it's a joy to use on S40, I hate it on S30. That's the "easy to use" part for me.
Plus durability, reception and ridiculously long battery time, that's why I like to keep recent S30 device around as backup or for hiking.
Those, as well as the GPRS and the low price you mentioned earlier, are hardware features. My (S40) 6300 is built like a tank (METAL shell!) and runs for about a week if I keep away from GPRS and Bluetooth. I've had it for about two and a half years, and it still works flawlessly. So yeah, grabbing a cheap S30 for absolute emergencies might be a sensible option, but S40 doesn't automatically mean frail or lousy battery life. That's something I do think about (most of the) the S60 sets. =]
Wanna see real abomination? Check those calculator-like cellphones "for the elderly", ridiculously overpriced and yet cheaply made.
Hear hear. My dad once got one of those. Horrible build quality (case was shifting and making cracking sounds since day one, sliding it open usually required 2 hands), horrible display, horrible software, and he got to pay 130 euros + contract for the privilege. He could have gotten a 6300 for less (they tend to go for 25 with a contract, and he'd be better off. The thing stopped working within a year anyway, so now he has another handset, a Samsung slider.
Yeah, those "elderly" sets should be taken into another dark alley and shot in the face, together with the clowns that make and market them.
Also, there is talk of better User Interface design, but as far as I'm aware, (and please, someone correct me if I'm wrong here) Nokia third party developers haven't been notified about any kind of recommended style sheet guides that they should be following (even if just voluntarily).
Very valid point. I was, however, able to find this UI Style Guide for S60 (there's one for S40 and other platforms too) with just one Google Search.
I haven't really read it, so I don't know how "thorough" it is, but it does satisfy your "any kind of recommended style sheet guides", I think.
Oh, puh-leaze, can someone please take S30 into a dark alley and shoot it in the face? It's an abomination; I'm pretty sure every time someone uses S30 god kills a kitten. Or something.
OK, that might be overstating things a little, but if you compare S30 to S40 -- which doesn't exactly need a cluster of supercomputers to run on, itself -- the former kinda pales. In fact, for a lot of people, I'd say S40 is Smart Enough, really. It might not do multitasking (apart from the music player, kinda like the iPhone now that I think of it) and be limited to mostly Java Apps, but it's not really that limited. And it's a ton faster and more stable than S60.
Then again, this is Nokia we're talking about. Could still be that they'll keep churning out tons of S30 thingies while this Grand New Interface takes ages to appear on handsets.
R2-45 is more of a joke than anything else and should be taken as such. It should be taken in the same vein of the Darwin Award.
From Teh Wiki (WITH citations, it seems):
On March 6, 1968, Hubbard issued an internal memo titled "RACKET EXPOSED," in which he denounced twelve people (Peter Goodwin, Jim Stathis, Peter Knight, Mrs. Knight, Nora Goodwin, Ron Frost, Margaret Frost, Nina Collingwood, Freda Gaiman, Frank Manley, Mary Ann Taylor, and George Wateridge) as "Enemies of mankind, the planet and all life," and ordered that "Any Sea Org member contacting any of them is to use Auditing Process R2-45."[7][8] Former Scientologist Bent Corydon wrote that in late 1967 at Saint Hill, he personally received a copy of an order naming four former Scientologists as enemies and "fair game" and ordering any Sea Org member who encountered them to use R2-45.[9][10]
Yeah, that sounds real fucking funny to me. I LOL'd.
And they keep eating cycles for doing almost nothing if you're on a Mac. Thanks Adobe, I guess. And the fact that a lot of pages don't leave it at one ad, but prefer to have a (metric) fuckload all over the place.
Not something that an ad-blocking solution can't handle, of course, but it IS one of the reasons a lot of people dislike Flash.
I recently got a LED bulb, which is supposed to use even less energy for a comparable amount of light. Looks good so far, and it's "instantly on", there's no warm-up. Dunno how long it's gonna last, of course, it's only been there for a week.
CFLs... well, they don't seem to make 'em like they used to, as others have said as well. I remember my dad one day installing some weird socket-mounted ones, which worked for YEARS. The incandescent-replacements tend to live a lot shorter.
As an aside, they're running a test program with LED street lighting. In a "forrest-y" part of the city, they have these greenish (but there's some red as well, it's really weird to look at the light source) that are supposed to use less energy, and have a narrower beam too, so it doesn't shine into the forest as much. Critters rejoiced.
If I have to go by what I've heard so far, LED is teh r0xx0r compared to CFLs. Wish they'd come down in price, though.
Microsoft is just one company, the music industry is just that, a whole industry. That means there's more money circulating there. Apart from that it's also quite a bit older and therefore way more entrenched.
I agree with GP tho, Microsoft could learn a thing or two from the music industry wrt to being absolute cunts.
I recommend reading "Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom", where this tech (backup, restore to a fresh clone body) exists for humans. Death is effectively avoided that way, as is most of modern medicine, since everything more severe than a cold is handled by swapping your sick body with a fresh one.
Interesting read.
Couple of small things: the key to remove "..." from menu items (or otherwise do interesting things to menus) is Option (alt), not Shift.
Also, the "new" (as in "has been on the market for quite a while now") alu keyboard as that fn key as well, and uses it too. As to the Mighty Mouse: as far as I know it has *4* buttons; those things on the side both map to one button.
But yeah, it's been quite a few years ago that the Mac was a One Mouse Button Only beast. =]
How will Apple deal with these issues if someone else tries to upload the same or similar product? Will they allow both? Will they give priority to the one who wrote the original GPL application, and not the author of the derivative work? Or will it be a case of first-come-first-serve to the app store?
Given the amount of fart apps around, I'd say Apple is happy to ship a million apps that are basically all the same. As long as you're not getting on *their* turf (which is a misty, ill-defined area) and the Powers That Be Approving are in a good mood, you're fine.
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Well, if Pacman isn't your cup of tea, there's always Quake II in your browser.
For some people, the EVA unit *is* their mother, you insensitive clod!
AGAIN?!
The cheapest mini will do VM'ing just fine -- well, at least mine does. =]
Unless you need to be able to drag it around, that might serve you just fine.
Some of them, yes, but IIRC I had to reboot at least once for some newer type of kernel module thingy.
It's not that I really *mind* a reboot every now and then, as long as it can be somewhat scheduled. I was just correcting the GP who stated that you could go from Old to Current in one go. That's simply not always true.
2. Multiple reboots: [...] Try a similar test on any Linux distro (pick a CD as old as you want), notice how you only need to reboot once to have all of the updates apply.
I did. Ubuntu required me to upgrade in steps, at least when going from 6.04 PPC to ... can't remember exactly which version, but I think it was three dist-upgrades, the last of which broke video.
My *current* computer has a G4 @ 1.25MHz, TOP THA-- oh, wait, wrong architecture.
Other phone operating systems did not have a legacy installed base to worry about, while MS has to be concerned about this, which also hamstrung 7.0's development.
Yet from what I've heard, WinPho7 won't run WinMo6 apps. That kinda kills the legacy argument. I think they *do* have a legacy to consider, though: the users. Changing the UI like they did, killing binary compatiblity and some other stuff, that takes balls.
WinPho7 is the first Microsoft announcement - it's not a product until it hits the shelves - that has me interested. Ever.
"The robots evolved" - WTF?! People kept training the neural network to create desirable functionality, without people training the neural network and doing "mutations" those robots would have evolved as much as a lightbulb stuck up somebody's arse!
Isn't that what evolution is all about?
Changing to get desirable functionality/traits, that is, not shoving lightbulb up people's arses.
Suddenly, it occurs to me that WindowMaker appears very touch-friendly to me. Big, clear targets. Calling up menus would prolly be a several-finger exercise, but still.
...but then there's the news of 2009 being a record-breaking year in terms of profit. So...
Of course, you're completely right: "they" will blame "piracy" for everything. The /. crowd might know better, but the general populace not so much. That means we still have a lot of educating to do. =]
Seeing how the ticket prices have, in fact, gone up, I'd say they failed.
I have the impression you're talking about the number of features. They are not the only factor for large parts of market, when low price, lack of GPRS in the cell network anyway or, yes, easy to use UI are also important.
No, not just the number of feateres, more how those features are implemented. Take something basic like SMS: it's a joy to use on S40, I hate it on S30. That's the "easy to use" part for me.
Plus durability, reception and ridiculously long battery time, that's why I like to keep recent S30 device around as backup or for hiking.
Those, as well as the GPRS and the low price you mentioned earlier, are hardware features. My (S40) 6300 is built like a tank (METAL shell!) and runs for about a week if I keep away from GPRS and Bluetooth. I've had it for about two and a half years, and it still works flawlessly. So yeah, grabbing a cheap S30 for absolute emergencies might be a sensible option, but S40 doesn't automatically mean frail or lousy battery life. That's something I do think about (most of the) the S60 sets. =]
Wanna see real abomination? Check those calculator-like cellphones "for the elderly", ridiculously overpriced and yet cheaply made.
Hear hear. My dad once got one of those. Horrible build quality (case was shifting and making cracking sounds since day one, sliding it open usually required 2 hands), horrible display, horrible software, and he got to pay 130 euros + contract for the privilege. He could have gotten a 6300 for less (they tend to go for 25 with a contract, and he'd be better off. The thing stopped working within a year anyway, so now he has another handset, a Samsung slider.
Yeah, those "elderly" sets should be taken into another dark alley and shot in the face, together with the clowns that make and market them.
Also, there is talk of better User Interface design, but as far as I'm aware, (and please, someone correct me if I'm wrong here) Nokia third party developers haven't been notified about any kind of recommended style sheet guides that they should be following (even if just voluntarily).
Very valid point. I was, however, able to find this UI Style Guide for S60 (there's one for S40 and other platforms too) with just one Google Search.
I haven't really read it, so I don't know how "thorough" it is, but it does satisfy your "any kind of recommended style sheet guides", I think.
Oh, puh-leaze, can someone please take S30 into a dark alley and shoot it in the face? It's an abomination; I'm pretty sure every time someone uses S30 god kills a kitten. Or something.
OK, that might be overstating things a little, but if you compare S30 to S40 -- which doesn't exactly need a cluster of supercomputers to run on, itself -- the former kinda pales. In fact, for a lot of people, I'd say S40 is Smart Enough, really. It might not do multitasking (apart from the music player, kinda like the iPhone now that I think of it) and be limited to mostly Java Apps, but it's not really that limited. And it's a ton faster and more stable than S60.
Then again, this is Nokia we're talking about. Could still be that they'll keep churning out tons of S30 thingies while this Grand New Interface takes ages to appear on handsets.
(who cares about vista and DX10 anyway?).
People with nVidia cards, if I'm to believe the comments on TFA. Someone there said that those don't do DX10.
R2-45 is more of a joke than anything else and should be taken as such. It should be taken in the same vein of the Darwin Award.
From Teh Wiki (WITH citations, it seems):
On March 6, 1968, Hubbard issued an internal memo titled "RACKET EXPOSED," in which he denounced twelve people (Peter Goodwin, Jim Stathis, Peter Knight, Mrs. Knight, Nora Goodwin, Ron Frost, Margaret Frost, Nina Collingwood, Freda Gaiman, Frank Manley, Mary Ann Taylor, and George Wateridge) as "Enemies of mankind, the planet and all life," and ordered that "Any Sea Org member contacting any of them is to use Auditing Process R2-45."[7][8] Former Scientologist Bent Corydon wrote that in late 1967 at Saint Hill, he personally received a copy of an order naming four former Scientologists as enemies and "fair game" and ordering any Sea Org member who encountered them to use R2-45.[9][10]
Yeah, that sounds real fucking funny to me. I LOL'd.
And they keep eating cycles for doing almost nothing if you're on a Mac. Thanks Adobe, I guess. And the fact that a lot of pages don't leave it at one ad, but prefer to have a (metric) fuckload all over the place.
Not something that an ad-blocking solution can't handle, of course, but it IS one of the reasons a lot of people dislike Flash.
I recently got a LED bulb, which is supposed to use even less energy for a comparable amount of light. Looks good so far, and it's "instantly on", there's no warm-up. Dunno how long it's gonna last, of course, it's only been there for a week.
CFLs... well, they don't seem to make 'em like they used to, as others have said as well. I remember my dad one day installing some weird socket-mounted ones, which worked for YEARS. The incandescent-replacements tend to live a lot shorter.
As an aside, they're running a test program with LED street lighting. In a "forrest-y" part of the city, they have these greenish (but there's some red as well, it's really weird to look at the light source) that are supposed to use less energy, and have a narrower beam too, so it doesn't shine into the forest as much. Critters rejoiced.
If I have to go by what I've heard so far, LED is teh r0xx0r compared to CFLs. Wish they'd come down in price, though.
Microsoft is just one company, the music industry is just that, a whole industry. That means there's more money circulating there. Apart from that it's also quite a bit older and therefore way more entrenched.
I agree with GP tho, Microsoft could learn a thing or two from the music industry wrt to being absolute cunts.
I recommend reading "Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom", where this tech (backup, restore to a fresh clone body) exists for humans. Death is effectively avoided that way, as is most of modern medicine, since everything more severe than a cold is handled by swapping your sick body with a fresh one. Interesting read.
Couple of small things: the key to remove "..." from menu items (or otherwise do interesting things to menus) is Option (alt), not Shift.
Also, the "new" (as in "has been on the market for quite a while now") alu keyboard as that fn key as well, and uses it too.
As to the Mighty Mouse: as far as I know it has *4* buttons; those things on the side both map to one button.
But yeah, it's been quite a few years ago that the Mac was a One Mouse Button Only beast. =]
How will Apple deal with these issues if someone else tries to upload the same or similar product? Will they allow both? Will they give priority to the one who wrote the original GPL application, and not the author of the derivative work? Or will it be a case of first-come-first-serve to the app store?
Given the amount of fart apps around, I'd say Apple is happy to ship a million apps that are basically all the same. As long as you're not getting on *their* turf (which is a misty, ill-defined area) and the Powers That Be Approving are in a good mood, you're fine.
I think I understand what you mean. I also think that a fool proof emotional system is way, way off into the future.
In the mean time, I'll settle for a kill switch. =]
Asimov's three laws, you mean? I think Asimov himself showed that, even with rules like that, humanity might still end up screwed.