While you're at it, instruct people to stop acting stupid in traffic, always have safe sex, don't go into debt, keep their weight healthy, and so on.
Let's face it: a large part of the general population is too stupid for words. You'll never be able to properly educate them, even if they DID want you to. Which they don't.
Against how many that DID manage to defend themselves without literally shooting themselves in the foot? And how many did not defend themselves at all and ended up victimized or killed?
I'm guessing you're from the US. Guess what, there's other countries out there as well.
Imagine if the ISPs in *other countries* didn't give a shit about some *US* law regulation dictating that *US* ISPs stopped supporting TCP/IP *in the US*, and happily continue to use OSs that support them.
Not only that, but you would have to do far more than "just" roll out a software update. How about the ISPs infrastructure? Modems? Routers?
Never gonna happen, and if it does, it's never going to be global.
Most folks won't be able to tell when their computer gets owned in a botnet. Most people would rather quit the Internet forever than risk criminal prosecution over something they don't really understand or have any confidence in managing.
Good riddance, I'd say. It's exactly those people that are part of the problems we face nowadays.
Not affected? So you don't receive spam? Your ports don't get scanned by some kiddie looking for more vulnerable boxes to pwn? Your ISP didn't close certain ports because of the abuse by others? When sending mail from your home machine, it doesn't bounce most of the time because most MXs tend to refuse mail from "home" connections nowadays?
Gosh, halfway down the comments, and FINALLY someone mentions IPv6 and the like.
My first thougth after reading the blurb was "let's fix the problems with the current internet first before we start building something new". Plus new code has new bugs, so starting over is rarely the best option.
Get the *existing* technologies rolled out first, that should take care of some of the problems. Then start promoting public key crypto and the likes for the authentication problem.
And finally, ffs, stop thinking that you can completely control the internet. No one can. Not this version, not whatever they're wishing to replace it with.
So you were robbed because a thief stole your stuff, and not because you left the door open?
The blame goes both ways. Of course botnets wouldn't exist without malware authors, but neither would they without that many Windows and IE vulnerabilities.
So the GPs point was that he gets spammed (no one was talking about theft), because the *neighbours* left their door open. And yes, the vulnerabilities play a large and important role in some of the problems we have today, but it still takes an asshole to exploit them.
In a semi-perfect world, the holes would still be there, but they'd only cause the user of that system grief, not the rest of the internet as well.
I loved the little bit of playing around I did in, oh, some developer release I think. Allowed me to play god knows how many MP3's at the same time on a 120MHz 604, and it looked snazzy.
Then, at some point, they claimed Apple wouldn't play nice, so they couldn't release PPC versions anymore. I never liked the "Apple's fault" blame game, since that never seemed to affect Linux.
I wonder if Haiku is going to get PPCified -- sure would be a nice way to keep using those older machines -- but it's not there yet.
Amen. I love Opera to bits, actually, but I just can't bring myself to make it my default browser because it's so clearly NOT a Mac OS X citizen. Drag and drop is spotty, window focus is hit and miss, and so on.
Technologically it eats Safari and Firefox for breakfast, though.
And I wasn't aware there was a limit to the number of operating systems allowed to exist. Is there a limit for any kind of software, or just operating systems?
No, just a limit on the amount of apps you can open on a certain version of a certain operating system.
Apart from Nokia (and other handset makers too, no doubt), didn't Google support SyncML in their spiffy new Mobile Sync thingy?
At first I was really interested in that, because I'm both a Nokia and a Google user. Unfortunately, for my phone calendar sync isn't supported, kinda making this whole thing useless for me.
Point taken. Then again, when you're lugging stuff this big around, you might as well carry along the mouse and keyboard, really. That doesn't solve the screen protection, but I'm sure some company has some nifty carrying bag -- actually, I do remember seeing a thing like that once. Wrapped around the screen, had handles, and a pocket for your mouse and keyboard.
But you're right in the sense that that's not half as easy as just closing the machine and picking it up (even if you have to pick it up with a forklift). =]
You want to be able to run Minesweeper at the same time, or maybe, perhaps, optionally, some applications. Some people do actual work with their machine instead of just refreshing/. all day.
My dream work laptop has a quad core cpu, min. 4GB ram, min. >200GB SSD and hardware support for virtualization and virtualized IO. I don't even care if it has a working battery or not, in fact my last one I used for a long time even though the battery was bad and would last seconds.
That's not a laptop, that's an all-in-one. Apple calls them iMacs, and I believe HP Gateway have knock-offs of it.
Nike actually has MaxSight contacts that act like shades. Shouldn't be too hard to make something similar with red/blue, and it'd look even more freaky.
Dunno if polarisation lenses can be done as contacts, since those have to be exactly right, rotation-wise.
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Mod parent into stratosphere plz kthx.
While you're at it, instruct people to stop acting stupid in traffic, always have safe sex, don't go into debt, keep their weight healthy, and so on.
Let's face it: a large part of the general population is too stupid for words. You'll never be able to properly educate them, even if they DID want you to. Which they don't.
Getting them off the internet and putting them in a sandbox is a nice bonus.
Against how many that DID manage to defend themselves without literally shooting themselves in the foot? And how many did not defend themselves at all and ended up victimized or killed?
I'm guessing you're from the US. Guess what, there's other countries out there as well.
Imagine if the ISPs in *other countries* didn't give a shit about some *US* law regulation dictating that *US* ISPs stopped supporting TCP/IP *in the US*, and happily continue to use OSs that support them.
Not only that, but you would have to do far more than "just" roll out a software update. How about the ISPs infrastructure? Modems? Routers?
Never gonna happen, and if it does, it's never going to be global.
Most folks won't be able to tell when their computer gets owned in a botnet. Most people would rather quit the Internet forever than risk criminal prosecution over something they don't really understand or have any confidence in managing.
Good riddance, I'd say. It's exactly those people that are part of the problems we face nowadays.
Not affected? So you don't receive spam? Your ports don't get scanned by some kiddie looking for more vulnerable boxes to pwn? Your ISP didn't close certain ports because of the abuse by others? When sending mail from your home machine, it doesn't bounce most of the time because most MXs tend to refuse mail from "home" connections nowadays?
Nifty. I wish I could say the same.
Gosh, halfway down the comments, and FINALLY someone mentions IPv6 and the like.
My first thougth after reading the blurb was "let's fix the problems with the current internet first before we start building something new". Plus new code has new bugs, so starting over is rarely the best option.
Get the *existing* technologies rolled out first, that should take care of some of the problems. Then start promoting public key crypto and the likes for the authentication problem.
And finally, ffs, stop thinking that you can completely control the internet. No one can. Not this version, not whatever they're wishing to replace it with.
So you were robbed because a thief stole your stuff, and not because you left the door open?
The blame goes both ways. Of course botnets wouldn't exist without malware authors, but neither would they without that many Windows and IE vulnerabilities.
So the GPs point was that he gets spammed (no one was talking about theft), because the *neighbours* left their door open. And yes, the vulnerabilities play a large and important role in some of the problems we have today, but it still takes an asshole to exploit them.
In a semi-perfect world, the holes would still be there, but they'd only cause the user of that system grief, not the rest of the internet as well.
The only problem would be most of the slashdot population wouldn't want any part in it.
FTFY. The general populace doesn't give a damn, they'll just follow the rest of the sheep.
You might be able to get the appropriate equipment + staffing when they clear out Gitmo.
(Tza-ding, I'll be here all week)
That, or "everything is bigger in America, including Bobcats" bragging.
I loved the little bit of playing around I did in, oh, some developer release I think. Allowed me to play god knows how many MP3's at the same time on a 120MHz 604, and it looked snazzy.
Then, at some point, they claimed Apple wouldn't play nice, so they couldn't release PPC versions anymore. I never liked the "Apple's fault" blame game, since that never seemed to affect Linux.
I wonder if Haiku is going to get PPCified -- sure would be a nice way to keep using those older machines -- but it's not there yet.
*crosses fingers*
Amen. I love Opera to bits, actually, but I just can't bring myself to make it my default browser because it's so clearly NOT a Mac OS X citizen. Drag and drop is spotty, window focus is hit and miss, and so on.
Technologically it eats Safari and Firefox for breakfast, though.
And I wasn't aware there was a limit to the number of operating systems allowed to exist. Is there a limit for any kind of software, or just operating systems?
No, just a limit on the amount of apps you can open on a certain version of a certain operating system.
Apart from Nokia (and other handset makers too, no doubt), didn't Google support SyncML in their spiffy new Mobile Sync thingy?
At first I was really interested in that, because I'm both a Nokia and a Google user. Unfortunately, for my phone calendar sync isn't supported, kinda making this whole thing useless for me.
There was also this thing that MS itself shipped with DOS... dunno what it was called, but it DID allow you to background shells and start new ones.
Can't remember the name anymore, though.
Anyone with a 3 digit UID must have been there from the very beginning of Slashdot.
Dude, no, really? =]
Well, yes, and the MacBooks are most likely laptops, too. I was just talking about the desktop-machines.
I think classifying a Mac Pro as "laptop" is not really spot-on. The mini and iMacs, sure, but the Pro is a slightly different beast.
Point taken. Then again, when you're lugging stuff this big around, you might as well carry along the mouse and keyboard, really. That doesn't solve the screen protection, but I'm sure some company has some nifty carrying bag -- actually, I do remember seeing a thing like that once. Wrapped around the screen, had handles, and a pocket for your mouse and keyboard.
But you're right in the sense that that's not half as easy as just closing the machine and picking it up (even if you have to pick it up with a forklift). =]
Who would need Intel Core i7 for XP?
You want to be able to run Minesweeper at the same time, or maybe, perhaps, optionally, some applications. Some people do actual work with their machine instead of just refreshing /. all day.
My dream work laptop has a quad core cpu, min. 4GB ram, min. >200GB SSD and hardware support for virtualization and virtualized IO. I don't even care if it has a working battery or not, in fact my last one I used for a long time even though the battery was bad and would last seconds.
That's not a laptop, that's an all-in-one. Apple calls them iMacs, and I believe HP Gateway have knock-offs of it.
Nike actually has MaxSight contacts that act like shades. Shouldn't be too hard to make something similar with red/blue, and it'd look even more freaky.
Dunno if polarisation lenses can be done as contacts, since those have to be exactly right, rotation-wise.
that comment, or the game?