Great!/. is all about YRO. The BIGGEST one being the right to remain anonymous on-line and your all out to ban or at least mass ignore anonymous users? Why is that? Could it be that people are mostly using anonymity for nefarious purposes. Just like THEY always say? Could it be true? Say it's not so!!!
How is that in any way a solution? This doesn't even have anything to do with XP as has been pointed out by others. It's the PC2001 spec. The SOLUTION is to write proper drivers and kernels to handle modern motherboard SPECs. You guys are constantly harping on MS not following specs and here is an example of O.S. OSs not following specs and your blaiming MS for it! Unreal.
You've just described a Shakespeare play in detail. And that was long before video anything. Teenagers are teenagers and always have been. Some persocute, some are persecuted. Some kill others and some kill themselves. AND ALWAYS HAVE. In what way did any of that have to do with anything other than common, standard, expected and documented human behavior over the last 5000 years? The answer? Nothing.
Slashdot actually brought some real information to the table. Unfortunately/. rarly posts anything that I haven't seen somewhere else hours or days earlier. Then the article poster slants it all wrong and flames ensue. John Katz articles are yet another source of flamage rather than thought. The only real reason to come here at all is to participate in the daily arguments. And in fact the only reason I'M here is to try to interject a little sanity when the "Everything but Linux, Open Source and Free Software suXors", FUD slinging reaches saturation. So there really is rarly any value to/. at all worth paying for. In fact/. may actually be a disservice to the overall community with amazingly high noise to signal ratio./.'s existance should be subsidised as a community service by another OS company (as it used to be) or just go away.
"MS isn't that provider. If you need software that is 100% available, hardware and software redudant, guaranteed to perform, and ready to deliver 24/7 you *can* find that vendor."
Then who is? Not Cisco, not Oracle, not Apache (with PHP installed), Who? The fact is not one single vendor has a bullet proof product. In fact they are nearly all the same when it comes to security and availablilty when given the same attention. Absolutely no on can gurantee 100% uptime in their OS or application. And the steps needed to make the OS and hardware "100%" up can be done with wintel, Sun or IBM hardware/software. Just not on little johnny's basement personal webpage server. Not on ANY os.
Is MS responsible for all the problems in the 2.4.x kernel too? How about Ciscos SNMP problems. How about the slew of buffer overflow problems recently found in PHP that can crash Apache? Imagine if all THOSE people who have no money to begin with were liable for a $2 billion dollar lawsuit! MS would survive, no one else would.
Well you got 1/2 of it right there. The other half being, supporting multiple processors is a PITA. I did a little alpha/x86 porting and besides the fact that the REAL alphas were more like 2-5 grand (Though the low end alphas were 500-1000) The immense added cost for relatively little power gain AND the added pain of maintaing multiple releases just wasn't worth it. When the users refused to pay for the alphas, that pretty much sealed it.
Because Hammer is nothing to write about. It's a 64 bit x86. Whee. Itanium is a completely different beast. There's a hell of a lot more to write about about the new Itanium archetecture and it's possiblilities than just taking x86 to 64 bit.
Uh... obviously SOME DAY it WILL be recycled. You won't be using that thing 50 years from now will you? Or anyone else? Ok MAYBE your particular 386 will end up in a computer museum and you'll have been rippeed off by $5 but the other 99 million 386s DO end up in the garbage heap. So try not thinking about yourself for just ONE SECOND and try looking at the bigger picture. Thank you.
Exactly! Like the misinformation on that very website! Or the giant heap of misinformation on/. itself. Fact, science, understanding and tolerance have no place on the net it seems. Fevered belief campaigns, hate and just plain misrepresentation are the oder of the day here and everywhere else on the net. Very frightening. Censorship is small potatoes compared to the damage that the net does all by itself.
And miss foaming at the mouth at the earliest oppourtunity? Hardly!:) But yeah, like Mr. infinate compression in Fl. Prove it or shut up. In fact I wish these people would actually construct a working model before opening thei mouths. Would save us all a lot of time.
I'm not sure that the clothing bit matters much, but the problem with the cars is that they are all old clunkers that we don't want in the US any more because of their very high pollution levels. So just like shipping computer parts to asia to avoid the pollution here, shipping our old cars to mexixo is a bit disengenuous...
ImageMagik is ok for your single user type app or small amounts of processing. It is not at all an efficiant image processing library at all. It especually does a natsty job on memory when working with large files. It's grate and all for your basic app (We've used it rather successfully), but it has some severe limits on speed and memory use. I wouldn't use it for what that guy was talking about.
Geeks are plainly anti-environment. At least computer geeks are. Computers and techno gadgetry as a whole are extremely environment unfriendly. Geeks (as a whole) don't really care at about that at all. I.e. leaving the computer on 24/7 to get more RC5 numbers for thier team is far more important to any geek than realizing that leaving the computer on causes air pollution. Not to mention what went into making that new whizbang video card or where the old card it replaces will go. Geeks by nature are generally self serving and not open to other peoples opinions or views as well. This also leads to anti-environmentalist actions. Not by thought mind you. I think all geeks would SAY that they are all for the environment. But very very few of them actually DO anything about it...
You're half right. But it's/.s hypocrasy that WILL make them pay! Just whitness TIVO and their complete and total monitoring of everything you do with the device. No one cares here about that at all because it running our baby Linux! YAY! We pay for the service and they collect our info and NO ONE cares. Oh but WMP, real, CDDB and others do the same and its EVIL!
So yes actually as much as everyone here hates any idea of a subscription anything, I'd bet that the/. hypocrasy would be such that they WOULD pay. And then still shovel manure on the very next service that switched to subscription.
That's not a "hack". How the hell do you think those OTHER menu items get there? The process is completely documented. Anyone can add any menu item they want to explorer. This is the "customizability" that Linux people blag on about so often. Believe it or not, yes, Windows is EXTREMELY customizable as well.
Those are three pretty flimsey GUI tricks that are ALL available to windows. The focus follows mouse and multiple desktops are distributed by MS itself in the power toys download. The third is available from at least a dozen freeware and shareware utilities. And tons and tons more! Try looking at Stardock if you want to see a plethora of gui gadgets that even surpass what's available on Linux. The stardock skinning even surpasses the skinning abilities of KDE and Gnome. Add to that that KDE and Gnome's disk browsers are both dog slow and almost useless on directories with thousands of files AND there being absolutely no counter-parts for any serious desktop programs, I really can't see why anyone would actually prefer using either over Windows. More Linux user FUD. It's like you guys are turning into mac zealots. Like being part of the gang is more important than anctually using your tools to do a job. Atleast the Mac has real software packages for it. If I wanted to bail on Bill G, the Mac can replace every one of the tools I use daily with the same mac version or a counterpart that is just as good. Linux can't. I kinow, I've looked and have been looking and trying for years.
So the question remains. Why should he (or anyone) use Linux on the desktop?
And every time tracking is brought up re the TIVO device we get hundreds of "I like the fact that they're tracking me" posts completely apologising for a Linux based product that is easily if not more evil than WMP, Real or Winamp. This type of two faced philosophy reduces this site to almost 100% noise.
How about not buying the CD and not broadcasting it? Someone forcing you to buy that cd? Someone forcing you to broadcast it? How is it that you don't even see the other choices? Just ignore them and their product! Find other sources (They ARE out there if you look) If we want them to change a huge grass root movement of listeners is the ONLY possible solution.
Think about it, why are you even rebroadcasting their product anyway. Because it attracts listeners? So what? If your non profit, then that's hardly necessary. There is all kinds of alternative material out there. Buying a cd and playing it over and over really is the lazy, feed the monster's way out. Because they KNOW you'll buy it is how they've gotten their power. Take the power away. Don't buy, don't broadcast. (Your only advertising for the evil that much more).
Stealing music is NOT a solution. It makes you just as immoral as they are. There ARE solutions. Try www.ampcast.com The more they tighten the screws the more they should be ignored. If enough people ignored them they'll dry up and float away. If not, screw their product! As an individual you CAN go elsewhere...
Uh, you mean like Ampcast? JavaMusic? and even (the now deteriorating) MP3.com? Or the thousands of indie labels and distributors like "Metropolis Records"? Yeah, I thought you did.
How about not r(e)broadcasting anything that you don't own or is from someone that's doesn't want you to rebroadcast it? You don't own it, it wasn't given to you, don't touch it. How hard is that? Terms of contract unacceptable? Go somewhere else, or nowhere else. It's your descision, make it a responsible one.
Yes, clearly using synchronous calls on windows was the result of a bunch of unix coders not knowing how to program for windows at all. I was hoping that the promise for 2.0 meant that they actually hired some real windows coders. I guess not. A well written asynchronous and/or properly threaded application on windows can easily match performance of the best written UNIX apps. But no fork and block unix coder is going to ever be able to do the windows "port" justice (As we've seen). Now I guess we'll have to "hope to discover" if they got a clue or not.:(
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Great! /. is all about YRO. The BIGGEST one being the right to remain anonymous on-line and your all out to ban or at least mass ignore anonymous users? Why is that? Could it be that people are mostly using anonymity for nefarious purposes. Just like THEY always say? Could it be true? Say it's not so!!!
How is that in any way a solution? This doesn't even have anything to do with XP as has been pointed out by others. It's the PC2001 spec. The SOLUTION is to write proper drivers and kernels to handle modern motherboard SPECs. You guys are constantly harping on MS not following specs and here is an example of O.S. OSs not following specs and your blaiming MS for it! Unreal.
The only thing lame is the lameness filter itself.
You've just described a Shakespeare play in detail. And that was long before video anything. Teenagers are teenagers and always have been. Some persocute, some are persecuted. Some kill others and some kill themselves. AND ALWAYS HAVE. In what way did any of that have to do with anything other than common, standard, expected and documented human behavior over the last 5000 years? The answer? Nothing.
Slashdot actually brought some real information to the table. Unfortunately /. rarly posts anything that I haven't seen somewhere else hours or days earlier. Then the article poster slants it all wrong and flames ensue. John Katz articles are yet another source of flamage rather than thought. The only real reason to come here at all is to participate in the daily arguments. And in fact the only reason I'M here is to try to interject a little sanity when the "Everything but Linux, Open Source and Free Software suXors", FUD slinging reaches saturation. So there really is rarly any value to /. at all worth paying for. In fact /. may actually be a disservice to the overall community with amazingly high noise to signal ratio. /.'s existance should be subsidised as a community service by another OS company (as it used to be) or just go away.
"MS isn't that provider. If you need software that is 100% available, hardware and software redudant, guaranteed to perform, and ready to deliver 24/7 you *can* find that vendor."
Then who is? Not Cisco, not Oracle, not Apache (with PHP installed), Who? The fact is not one single vendor has a bullet proof product. In fact they are nearly all the same when it comes to security and availablilty when given the same attention. Absolutely no on can gurantee 100% uptime in their OS or application. And the steps needed to make the OS and hardware "100%" up can be done with wintel, Sun or IBM hardware/software. Just not on little johnny's basement personal webpage server. Not on ANY os.
Is MS responsible for all the problems in the 2.4.x kernel too? How about Ciscos SNMP problems. How about the slew of buffer overflow problems recently found in PHP that can crash Apache? Imagine if all THOSE people who have no money to begin with were liable for a $2 billion dollar lawsuit! MS would survive, no one else would.
Well you got 1/2 of it right there. The other half being, supporting multiple processors is a PITA. I did a little alpha/x86 porting and besides the fact that the REAL alphas were more like 2-5 grand (Though the low end alphas were 500-1000) The immense added cost for relatively little power gain AND the added pain of maintaing multiple releases just wasn't worth it. When the users refused to pay for the alphas, that pretty much sealed it.
Because Hammer is nothing to write about. It's a 64 bit x86. Whee. Itanium is a completely different beast. There's a hell of a lot more to write about about the new Itanium archetecture and it's possiblilities than just taking x86 to 64 bit.
Uh... obviously SOME DAY it WILL be recycled. You won't be using that thing 50 years from now will you? Or anyone else? Ok MAYBE your particular 386 will end up in a computer museum and you'll have been rippeed off by $5 but the other 99 million 386s DO end up in the garbage heap. So try not thinking about yourself for just ONE SECOND and try looking at the bigger picture. Thank you.
Exactly! Like the misinformation on that very website! Or the giant heap of misinformation on /. itself. Fact, science, understanding and tolerance have no place on the net it seems. Fevered belief campaigns, hate and just plain misrepresentation are the oder of the day here and everywhere else on the net. Very frightening. Censorship is small potatoes compared to the damage that the net does all by itself.
And miss foaming at the mouth at the earliest oppourtunity? Hardly! :) But yeah, like Mr. infinate compression in Fl. Prove it or shut up. In fact I wish these people would actually construct a working model before opening thei mouths. Would save us all a lot of time.
I'm not sure that the clothing bit matters much, but the problem with the cars is that they are all old clunkers that we don't want in the US any more because of their very high pollution levels. So just like shipping computer parts to asia to avoid the pollution here, shipping our old cars to mexixo is a bit disengenuous...
ImageMagik is ok for your single user type app or small amounts of processing. It is not at all an efficiant image processing library at all. It especually does a natsty job on memory when working with large files. It's grate and all for your basic app (We've used it rather successfully), but it has some severe limits on speed and memory use. I wouldn't use it for what that guy was talking about.
Geeks are plainly anti-environment. At least computer geeks are. Computers and techno gadgetry as a whole are extremely environment unfriendly. Geeks (as a whole) don't really care at about that at all. I.e. leaving the computer on 24/7 to get more RC5 numbers for thier team is far more important to any geek than realizing that leaving the computer on causes air pollution. Not to mention what went into making that new whizbang video card or where the old card it replaces will go. Geeks by nature are generally self serving and not open to other peoples opinions or views as well. This also leads to anti-environmentalist actions. Not by thought mind you. I think all geeks would SAY that they are all for the environment. But very very few of them actually DO anything about it...
You're half right. But it's /.s hypocrasy that WILL make them pay! Just whitness TIVO and their complete and total monitoring of everything you do with the device. No one cares here about that at all because it running our baby Linux! YAY! We pay for the service and they collect our info and NO ONE cares. Oh but WMP, real, CDDB and others do the same and its EVIL!
/. hypocrasy would be such that they WOULD pay. And then still shovel manure on the very next service that switched to subscription.
So yes actually as much as everyone here hates any idea of a subscription anything, I'd bet that the
That's not a "hack". How the hell do you think those OTHER menu items get there? The process is completely documented. Anyone can add any menu item they want to explorer. This is the "customizability" that Linux people blag on about so often. Believe it or not, yes, Windows is EXTREMELY customizable as well.
Those are three pretty flimsey GUI tricks that are ALL available to windows. The focus follows mouse and multiple desktops are distributed by MS itself in the power toys download. The third is available from at least a dozen freeware and shareware utilities. And tons and tons more! Try looking at Stardock if you want to see a plethora of gui gadgets that even surpass what's available on Linux. The stardock skinning even surpasses the skinning abilities of KDE and Gnome. Add to that that KDE and Gnome's disk browsers are both dog slow and almost useless on directories with thousands of files AND there being absolutely no counter-parts for any serious desktop programs, I really can't see why anyone would actually prefer using either over Windows. More Linux user FUD. It's like you guys are turning into mac zealots. Like being part of the gang is more important than anctually using your tools to do a job. Atleast the Mac has real software packages for it. If I wanted to bail on Bill G, the Mac can replace every one of the tools I use daily with the same mac version or a counterpart that is just as good. Linux can't. I kinow, I've looked and have been looking and trying for years.
So the question remains. Why should he (or anyone) use Linux on the desktop?
And every time tracking is brought up re the TIVO device we get hundreds of "I like the fact that they're tracking me" posts completely apologising for a Linux based product that is easily if not more evil than WMP, Real or Winamp. This type of two faced philosophy reduces this site to almost 100% noise.
Now THIS deserves to be modded up to a 6. Probably THE most sane and rational post in this subject yet.
How about not buying the CD and not broadcasting it? Someone forcing you to buy that cd? Someone forcing you to broadcast it? How is it that you don't even see the other choices? Just ignore them and their product! Find other sources (They ARE out there if you look) If we want them to change a huge grass root movement of listeners is the ONLY possible solution.
Think about it, why are you even rebroadcasting their product anyway. Because it attracts listeners? So what? If your non profit, then that's hardly necessary. There is all kinds of alternative material out there. Buying a cd and playing it over and over really is the lazy, feed the monster's way out. Because they KNOW you'll buy it is how they've gotten their power. Take the power away. Don't buy, don't broadcast. (Your only advertising for the evil that much more).
Stealing music is NOT a solution. It makes you just as immoral as they are. There ARE solutions. Try www.ampcast.com The more they tighten the screws the more they should be ignored. If enough people ignored them they'll dry up and float away. If not, screw their product! As an individual you CAN go elsewhere...
Uh, you mean like Ampcast? JavaMusic? and even (the now deteriorating) MP3.com? Or the thousands of indie labels and distributors like "Metropolis Records"? Yeah, I thought you did.
How about not r(e)broadcasting anything that you don't own or is from someone that's doesn't want you to rebroadcast it? You don't own it, it wasn't given to you, don't touch it. How hard is that? Terms of contract unacceptable? Go somewhere else, or nowhere else. It's your descision, make it a responsible one.
Yes, clearly using synchronous calls on windows was the result of a bunch of unix coders not knowing how to program for windows at all. I was hoping that the promise for 2.0 meant that they actually hired some real windows coders. I guess not. A well written asynchronous and/or properly threaded application on windows can easily match performance of the best written UNIX apps. But no fork and block unix coder is going to ever be able to do the windows "port" justice (As we've seen). Now I guess we'll have to "hope to discover" if they got a clue or not. :(