In other words. "It's totally useless." I agree with other posters in that it should just be dumped and time better spent putting in much needed features into Linux itself. How about a replacement for X? How about getting KDE or GNOME up to Windows desktop speed and useability? How about replacing qt and gtk with something that I as a developer can use without their dracoian commercial liscence fees/restrictions?
1) You're all against this, it rips off artists. 2) Previous article is about shortening copyright limits so that artists work become public domain sooner and everyone is for that.
(I'll concede the possibility of their being two completely separate sets of people replying to each)
But it seems to me that between the users that pirate, the record companies that take 99% of profit and the open sources that think "14 years of copyright on an artistsic work is enough" that absolutely everyone is out to rip off the content creators! It's a univers of succubus.
Well (pardon my french) but screw you all! Someday (god, government and geeks willing) artists and content creators will actually obtain real power over their work. They'll say who can have access and at what price. If they seem unfair then people will tell them to fuck off. If not, people will buy their product. If you don't like their terms on their own creations then there is only ONE thing you can do about it (morally), and that's to walk away. Anything else is just plain wrong.
Oh? What about Star Wars? going on 24 years! Should that entire property have just become public domain a decade ago? It's truly disturbing to see how many people are all for limiting the ownership of creative properties when all they want is to profit from it themselves. You want profit? Then create it! Create it, pay for it or slag off! There is absolutely no reason that anyone should EVER profit off of any star wars merchandise without the permission of the copyright holders. Without them it wouldn't exist in the first place. It's your choice to pay for it, or ignore it. Taking it or forcing people to give it away is absurd.
Except that Java is also a language!.NET is the good bits about Java (portability) without it being bound to a single and frequently innapropriate language. That is a HUGE fundamental difference. It also goes further in generalizing the advertising and querying of object interfaces on single machines, local networks and the internet (ALA COM++ CORBA++ etc). Much farther reaching that Java ever got.
1. They can henceforth change the terms without notice, just by posting the new terms on the website. (Currently they are obliged to give 15 days notice by email, a period that we are currently in for this change.)
If they decide to change the terms of service to "Anything you have uploaded to this site becomes the commercial property of Source Forge." And you have NO notice that this change is going to take place, then you can be screwed royale at any second that you keep anything there. A notice by e-mail 2 weeks in advance allows you to decide if you really want to hand them your stuff or not. No notice means that the instant the new policy is posted it becomes effective and they could steal everything in an instant... (Or any number of other less draconian but still mighty annoying things) With this small change, there's no way at all that you can avoid any future terms of service until after you are already ablighed to abide by them. I know a lot of other ISPs and hosting providers do the same thing. But it's still completely wrong.
Duh! Why the hell write every damn program that uses a rich interface from the ground up? You realise that hundreds of smaller companies and coders (myself included thank you) are using the embedded IE control because we don't feel like taking 10 years out of our lives to rewrite an HTML control for every app? It was an easy and convienient way to get rich content onto apps easy and quickly. OF COURSE it was done on intentionally! What were they supposed to do, build in netscape?
Not to mention the fact that I and hundreds of other software developers use embedded IE controls in our products. So it'll break hundreds of programs as well... The question isn't even "can" they, it's "should" they and the answer is one huge resounding "NO!".
Yes, but having each one of those r g and b lcd cells be an entire rgb pixel would increase resolution even further! The fact that each pixel has to be one or more rgb triple pixel now only reduces the resolution of the monitor from what it could be if each lcd cell was an rgb pixel.
Definately not. In fact computers have gotten SO fast these days that only those types of extreme cases are a problem. This is reflected in the slowdown of computer upgrading were seeing. There is less and less reason to upgrade to faster processors anymore for all but the most extreme computer users.
Then reread that as "Software doesn't have to be brain surgery" but brain surgery is always brain surgery. The point IS VALID even if there are extreme case exceptions. Virtually all software is in no way life threatening. Sure those that ARE had better have some REAL engineers working on them. But it's not necessary to be a "brain surgeon" for nearly any coding task that exists.
Speed and ease of use are enablers. If thing X takes 10 times as long to do by hand as it does on the computer I may not be able to devote the time to it. So yes, using the computer allows me to do something I couldn't do otherwise. Price also comes into play. Talking about composing again, software is significantly cheaper than hardware and therefore may enable someone to compose/perform/mix and master a complete song in their own house that would have been completely impossible within a persons hobby budget using all hardware/non-computer solutions.
1) I've programmed for touchscreens for almost 1 decade. None of them are 100% foolproof. Depending on the type all kinds of contaminants, dry air and wear can register incorrect selections. There'd have to be a more complicatd setup of "Are you sures" making the entire process slower and maybe even MORE error prone.
2) Secondarily, the idea of an electronic only system is also bad. At minimum, this touchscreen terminal had better punch out a physical card that can be recounted! There needs to be a hard record of every vote. Otherwise power failures, HD failures, both accidental and not, will lose votes FOREVER.
I believe that the only proper way to do it is mechanically with punch cards. Now the machines themselves can be greatly improved over the cheap ass pin systems most states use today. But I really don't want to use a computer to vote in any way and I've been a software engineer for 23 years! I know what there is to be afraid of.
Coming from someone that has spent years writing cross platform code for Linux, Windows and even the Mac, I say:
Go ahead! There's NOTHING wrong with that! If I want to write a Gnome only program I'll gladly take advantage of additional tools. If I want to write a cross platform program I'll stick to the cross platform set. I'm an engineer, not a fucking moron. I KNOW what will and won't work cross platform via docs and trial and error (Much like developing HTML). This is the exact situation with MS's extended Java. EXACTLY. It was MY choice as a developer to go windows only or cross platform. That wasn't evil in any way, just like Gnome extending.NET is not evil in any way. It would be NICER if everyone developed everything lockstep, but Sun was glacial about providing additional features that they didn't see a use for. So move aside Sun...
If MS doesn't go fast enough for the Gnome crew (Though I seriously doubt that would happen) then they can fill in as needed. In fact, even if I could write 90% of the code commmon for all platforms and 10% customized for the platforms I wanted to support. That would be infinately better than not having it at all.
The entire universe of computers (And all other engineering worlds) works on "Embrace and extend" You can't blanket everything as bad because of it. Sometimes it's bad but usually it's good. Labeling something "Embrace and extend" is not by default a bad thing. Quite the opposite. Aren't KDE and Gnome embracing and extending the xerox/apple/ms desktop metaphore?
Java may have been a nice idea but it's implementation and it's owner were terrible. So move aside sun, let someone else try...
And that is the bane of mankind. It's sad to see/. fall into such a mire. What TIVO is doing here is every bit as evil as anythim MS has ever done. More so. And for the majority of/.ers to toatally ignore it or even praise it becuase TIVO is their baby is completely wrong. Evil is evil is evil.
That is so NOT true! The artwork, sound and thread of game play are the ONLY things that make a game interesting or fun at all. And that type of creativity is VERY hard to some by. Game engines are already a dime a dozen, so why aren't there hundreds of great games for Linux right now? Right, because the art/music/gameplay elements are far harder to do than you're imagining they are.
If you were a regular reader of that site you'd notice that he does a fair amount of MS bashing when they deserve it. And he priases them when they deserve it. He does the same for Apple and Linux too! Unlike Slag-dot here where a middle of the road, honest observation is always treated with a -1 moderation.
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In other words. "It's totally useless." I agree with other posters in that it should just be dumped and time better spent putting in much needed features into Linux itself. How about a replacement for X? How about getting KDE or GNOME up to Windows desktop speed and useability? How about replacing qt and gtk with something that I as a developer can use without their dracoian commercial liscence fees/restrictions?
1) You're all against this, it rips off artists.
2) Previous article is about shortening copyright limits so that artists work become public domain sooner and everyone is for that.
(I'll concede the possibility of their being two completely separate sets of people replying to each)
But it seems to me that between the users that pirate, the record companies that take 99% of profit and the open sources that think "14 years of copyright on an artistsic work is enough" that absolutely everyone is out to rip off the content creators! It's a univers of succubus.
Well (pardon my french) but screw you all! Someday (god, government and geeks willing) artists and content creators will actually obtain real power over their work. They'll say who can have access and at what price. If they seem unfair then people will tell them to fuck off. If not, people will buy their product. If you don't like their terms on their own creations then there is only ONE thing you can do about it (morally), and that's to walk away. Anything else is just plain wrong.
Oh? What about Star Wars? going on 24 years! Should that entire property have just become public domain a decade ago? It's truly disturbing to see how many people are all for limiting the ownership of creative properties when all they want is to profit from it themselves. You want profit? Then create it! Create it, pay for it or slag off! There is absolutely no reason that anyone should EVER profit off of any star wars merchandise without the permission of the copyright holders. Without them it wouldn't exist in the first place. It's your choice to pay for it, or ignore it. Taking it or forcing people to give it away is absurd.
Except that Java is also a language! .NET is the good bits about Java (portability) without it being bound to a single and frequently innapropriate language. That is a HUGE fundamental difference. It also goes further in generalizing the advertising and querying of object interfaces on single machines, local networks and the internet (ALA COM++ CORBA++ etc). Much farther reaching that Java ever got.
Still, with this change there's nothing to stop them from trying. Having to give 2 weeks notice would have...
This is most definately the worst part
1. They can henceforth change the terms without notice, just by posting the new terms on the website. (Currently they are obliged to give 15 days notice by email, a period that we are currently in for this change.)
If they decide to change the terms of service to "Anything you have uploaded to this site becomes the commercial property of Source Forge." And you have NO notice that this change is going to take place, then you can be screwed royale at any second that you keep anything there. A notice by e-mail 2 weeks in advance allows you to decide if you really want to hand them your stuff or not. No notice means that the instant the new policy is posted it becomes effective and they could steal everything in an instant... (Or any number of other less draconian but still mighty annoying things) With this small change, there's no way at all that you can avoid any future terms of service until after you are already ablighed to abide by them. I know a lot of other ISPs and hosting providers do the same thing. But it's still completely wrong.
And NOT using WebWasher :)
Unfortunately "anonymizers" aren't too anonymouse these days...
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Duh! Why the hell write every damn program that uses a rich interface from the ground up? You realise that hundreds of smaller companies and coders (myself included thank you) are using the embedded IE control because we don't feel like taking 10 years out of our lives to rewrite an HTML control for every app? It was an easy and convienient way to get rich content onto apps easy and quickly. OF COURSE it was done on intentionally! What were they supposed to do, build in netscape?
Not to mention the fact that I and hundreds of other software developers use embedded IE controls in our products. So it'll break hundreds of programs as well... The question isn't even "can" they, it's "should" they and the answer is one huge resounding "NO!".
Yes, but having each one of those r g and b lcd cells be an entire rgb pixel would increase resolution even further! The fact that each pixel has to be one or more rgb triple pixel now only reduces the resolution of the monitor from what it could be if each lcd cell was an rgb pixel.
Definately not. In fact computers have gotten SO fast these days that only those types of extreme cases are a problem. This is reflected in the slowdown of computer upgrading were seeing. There is less and less reason to upgrade to faster processors anymore for all but the most extreme computer users.
Then reread that as "Software doesn't have to be brain surgery" but brain surgery is always brain surgery. The point IS VALID even if there are extreme case exceptions. Virtually all software is in no way life threatening. Sure those that ARE had better have some REAL engineers working on them. But it's not necessary to be a "brain surgeon" for nearly any coding task that exists.
Speed and ease of use are enablers. If thing X takes 10 times as long to do by hand as it does on the computer I may not be able to devote the time to it. So yes, using the computer allows me to do something I couldn't do otherwise. Price also comes into play. Talking about composing again, software is significantly cheaper than hardware and therefore may enable someone to compose/perform/mix and master a complete song in their own house that would have been completely impossible within a persons hobby budget using all hardware/non-computer solutions.
Two problems with that.
1) I've programmed for touchscreens for almost 1 decade. None of them are 100% foolproof. Depending on the type all kinds of contaminants, dry air and wear can register incorrect selections. There'd have to be a more complicatd setup of "Are you sures" making the entire process slower and maybe even MORE error prone.
2) Secondarily, the idea of an electronic only system is also bad. At minimum, this touchscreen terminal had better punch out a physical card that can be recounted! There needs to be a hard record of every vote. Otherwise power failures, HD failures, both accidental and not, will lose votes FOREVER.
I believe that the only proper way to do it is mechanically with punch cards. Now the machines themselves can be greatly improved over the cheap ass pin systems most states use today. But I really don't want to use a computer to vote in any way and I've been a software engineer for 23 years! I know what there is to be afraid of.
And costs $5 a month to run. Full size computers are power pigs.
They're BOTH against the law!
Coming from someone that has spent years writing cross platform code for Linux, Windows and even the Mac, I say:
.NET is not evil in any way. It would be NICER if everyone developed everything lockstep, but Sun was glacial about providing additional features that they didn't see a use for. So move aside Sun...
Go ahead! There's NOTHING wrong with that! If I want to write a Gnome only program I'll gladly take advantage of additional tools. If I want to write a cross platform program I'll stick to the cross platform set. I'm an engineer, not a fucking moron. I KNOW what will and won't work cross platform via docs and trial and error (Much like developing HTML). This is the exact situation with MS's extended Java. EXACTLY. It was MY choice as a developer to go windows only or cross platform. That wasn't evil in any way, just like Gnome extending
If MS doesn't go fast enough for the Gnome crew (Though I seriously doubt that would happen) then they can fill in as needed. In fact, even if I could write 90% of the code commmon for all platforms and 10% customized for the platforms I wanted to support. That would be infinately better than not having it at all.
You just described open source exactly. Except the part about paying ANYTHING at all. Pretty slick!
The entire universe of computers (And all other engineering worlds) works on "Embrace and extend" You can't blanket everything as bad because of it. Sometimes it's bad but usually it's good. Labeling something "Embrace and extend" is not by default a bad thing. Quite the opposite. Aren't KDE and Gnome embracing and extending the xerox/apple/ms desktop metaphore?
Java may have been a nice idea but it's implementation and it's owner were terrible. So move aside sun, let someone else try...
SO every os there is is some flavor of unix?
And that is the bane of mankind. It's sad to see /. fall into such a mire. What TIVO is doing here is every bit as evil as anythim MS has ever done. More so. And for the majority of /.ers to toatally ignore it or even praise it becuase TIVO is their baby is completely wrong. Evil is evil is evil.
That is so NOT true! The artwork, sound and thread of game play are the ONLY things that make a game interesting or fun at all. And that type of creativity is VERY hard to some by. Game engines are already a dime a dozen, so why aren't there hundreds of great games for Linux right now? Right, because the art/music/gameplay elements are far harder to do than you're imagining they are.
You haven't looked at much O.S. code have you?
If you were a regular reader of that site you'd notice that he does a fair amount of MS bashing when they deserve it. And he priases them when they deserve it. He does the same for Apple and Linux too! Unlike Slag-dot here where a middle of the road, honest observation is always treated with a -1 moderation.