"As for the other half of your question, "programmer's rights," I certainly think programmers, like all users, have a right to all those freedoms I mention above. However, programmers don't deserve any "rights" that infringe on the freedoms of others. "
The "programmers" are the creators. Every single other place in society, creators are the "owners" of their creations!/. itself is constantly on the side of the creator when it comes to writers. And of course artists have the right to retain sale, distribution and reprint right of their art. And most people even bend from their stealing MP3s long enough to admit that they think the musician actually deserves being paid for thier music. And software engineers aren't allowed to be paid for thier creations? If someone else toils over something for hundreds of hours and you enjoy using it. THEN YOU OWE COMPENSATION! To do any less is just plain selfish. (And don't even START on the damn pizzas!)
There is NOTHING so special about software over art, writing, music, backyard gardens or anything else someone does that that someone toils endlessly on that the USERS have more control and rights that the creators. The FSF et al. are taking a philosophical trip through fairy land and it's time they fscking wake up!
Why does this contantly come up. Are you saying that telling someone to Option click is easier that right click? Everything that windows does using the right mouse button, apple does using the option click. It's the same thing. Only now you have to explain what the option key is. It's that "flower" key, you know, the key with that funny squggle on it that you've never seen before.:P
Uh, it kind of sound like he was looking for clever storage tips. Not cubical decoration tips. Most the suggestions of "Add plants" would probably exacerbate his clutter situation, not help it.
This isn't exactly true. When Delphi came out. The number of Delphi books VERY quickly outnumbered the number of C/C++ books. But that had to do with more reasons than it's popularity. It was new, no everyone wanted to get into the game and published as much as they could. Another was Borlands hype about how Delphi was the future of RAD development. (Similar to Suns). But just try to find a Delphi book now. It's gone from one entire rack to maybe 1/10 of a shelf. Java came on a lot stronger than Delphi, has a larger rack space, but that alone doesn't mean it won't fade away as well. (Doesn't mean it won't either, but that's my point)
Did it? Are you saying that anyone in the same position would enevitably gotten injured in the same way? Or is it that her specific body couldn't take the job? In that case, after she had prolonged problems it would be up to HER to determine if she wants to continue doing something that her own body can't handle or find another job. This case is not as cut and dried as say a construction worker using a jackhammer without hearing protection because the company wouldn;t allow it. Millions of people do jobs like hers and have NO wrist problems. If your unlucky enough to (After all precautions are taken) still have problems. It's YOUR responsibility to take care of your own body.
The question is: Did you patch it? Or are you now a sitting duck for several known BIND root hacks? And after patching. Have you continuously kept up with security news to make sure that you don't get hit with a new exploit? It's a LOT of work and responsibility to run virtually any kind of server. It's almost like there should be a license for it (as in driver's), with tickets given out to people that slack off and become infected.:)
This "cure" is FAR worse than the disease.:( When this kind of attitude takes over we will then truly be in tech. hell.
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Actually with all the "Netscape sucks" and "Mozilla sucks" every time they are brought up in a non confrontational context with IE (Such as when a new release is announced). You could say that/. is firmly on the side of Microsoft as well. Why is it that MSNBC is biased when they say that Netscape 6.0 was buggy, but when everyone on/. (and almost everywhere else on the net) says the same thing they're not? That just shows that comments like the one above are the biased ones...
Agreed. So let's boycott Linux Today until he resigns. He's done nothing less than what MS and others have done (Specifically astroturfing) that invariably leds to calls of boycotts. Everyone on/. boycotting MS or Apple or Real hardly has any effect, but THIS has a chance to work! If everyone on/. boycotted Linux Today until he resigns and there is some proof of a return of jounalistic integrity, I think they would probably have to take notice. It's gets harder and harder to say anything negative about MS when your own house is morally crumbling around you. Course I'm just a pro MS troll, what do I know? But at least I'm not a/. editor:)
No it's true! And Tesla invented a way to create unlimited energy forever! So, Actually. Why is it that we can't moderate the articles themselves? I mean this really deserves a 0. The mac rant article earlier deserved a -1. It's like the people posting either don;t acutally read the source articles themselves or put maybe 2 seconds of thought into them. "News for Nerds" deserves a little more peer review before being blasted out like a bad onion fart. Jeeze...
So true! It's a sad, sad truth. People will steal anything that isn't nailed down or hooked up to an alarm (And well, even then). It's SO hard to get worked up about these things when you realise that the ONLY reason they're doing it is because they are already being ripped off. I mean/. gets all pissy anytime something OS is ripped off. But Huges, MS, (insert anyone you don't like here) can just go to hell? It's the constant/. hypocrasy that really hurts. It's a daily stab in the eye to read articles like this. There is absolutely no reason Huges shouldn't do whatever is necessary to keep people from stealing from them. How much does it cost to put up a satelite anyway? Look what happened to Iridium. If enough people steal there'll be no DirectTV at all. (Ok, no one stole from iridium, my point being, if they don't MAKE ENOUGH MONEY, it won't exist.)
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It said it was baseball sized in the CNN article that was liked at the top of the original/. article. I commented on it at the time. Why did/. have a "Our local Fox affiliate is reporting a compact-car size metior may have hit north central PA Monday evening" statement when the CNN story linked to said in fact a baseball sized meteorite didn't even hit the ground? Where did it say it was 1-2 meters? Are diferent people seeing links to different stories????
We have people running over 16 pedestrians while trying to pull out of a parking space. We have teens smashing up 6 cars and one pedestrian while trying to park during a driving test. I can't wait for the RealTV footage when everyone is zooming around at 400 MPH!
I don't think that was the processor ID they were talking about. Since only a few intel chips have them. They're probably using the ID that every processor has that tells it's make, model, stepping etc.
Passport is *an* authentication system. Authors of software based on.NET *can* use passport if they want. Or IBM or anyone else could setup their own authenticatoin system, and developers could use that instead. Hailstorm is just an SDK for using passport (and other utility services). IBM, SUN or anyone else interested could setup their own system and issue an SDK for that. This probably *won't* happen though as setting up a large authentication system takes a very large amount of resources. So As usual, becuase 99.999% of the rest of the industry is lazy, Passport will become once again a defacto MS "standard". And if it does, then MS is not to blame, but everyone else that refused to lift a finger to supply an alternative worthy of being used.
I expected this to get modded down./. is hardly the place to discuss shortcomings in the OS model now is it? As long as we all pat each other on the back endlessly in a big circle all is well... It's the awful truth.
Thanks for the rational post. I'd also like to add that the MS's current scoping of the for loop variable is in fact in the 3.0 C++ standard! There is an appendix that deals with the effects of the sever rescoping of the loop var that took place and it basicly says that compiler vendors are free to implement the new scoping rules or stick with the old as they wish. There are good and bad effects of the new scoping rules and it's completely wrong to just say MS "Did it wrong". THey made a choice that is completely within the 3.0 ANSI C++ spec. The logical thing to do is, if you plan on doing cross platform development, just define the variable outside the for loop and get on with life. It's hardly such a big deal that it requires this constant battle.
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Well as usual, MOST of the people replying negatively are doing nothing more than knee jerking. They know little to nothing about it, they hear Microsoft, they bash. But it seems like a FEW people have actually investigated the underpinnings of.NET and have seen some promise in the archetecture and the need for such an archetecture and are going to make sure that Linux will be there to play the game. It may end up being much ado about nothing like JAVA has become, but Linux has JAVA doesn't it? Good? Bad? Time will tell. But dismissing things out of hand will never allow you find out...
Well to test that theory, I installed Web Washer http://www.webwasher.com and now it blocks the/. banner ads! I suggest everyone else do the same. (Or use the local host trick) Then we'll see if they're hypocrits or not:)
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"As for the other half of your question, "programmer's rights," I certainly think programmers, like all users, have a right to all those freedoms I mention above. However, programmers don't deserve any "rights" that infringe on the freedoms of others. " /. itself is constantly on the side of the creator when it comes to writers. And of course artists have the right to retain sale, distribution and reprint right of their art. And most people even bend from their stealing MP3s long enough to admit that they think the musician actually deserves being paid for thier music. And software engineers aren't allowed to be paid for thier creations? If someone else toils over something for hundreds of hours and you enjoy using it. THEN YOU OWE COMPENSATION! To do any less is just plain selfish. (And don't even START on the damn pizzas!)
The "programmers" are the creators. Every single other place in society, creators are the "owners" of their creations!
There is NOTHING so special about software over art, writing, music, backyard gardens or anything else someone does that that someone toils endlessly on that the USERS have more control and rights that the creators. The FSF et al. are taking a philosophical trip through fairy land and it's time they fscking wake up!
Why does this contantly come up. Are you saying that telling someone to Option click is easier that right click? Everything that windows does using the right mouse button, apple does using the option click. It's the same thing. Only now you have to explain what the option key is. It's that "flower" key, you know, the key with that funny squggle on it that you've never seen before. :P
Uh, it kind of sound like he was looking for clever storage tips. Not cubical decoration tips. Most the suggestions of "Add plants" would probably exacerbate his clutter situation, not help it.
This isn't exactly true. When Delphi came out. The number of Delphi books VERY quickly outnumbered the number of C/C++ books. But that had to do with more reasons than it's popularity. It was new, no everyone wanted to get into the game and published as much as they could. Another was Borlands hype about how Delphi was the future of RAD development. (Similar to Suns). But just try to find a Delphi book now. It's gone from one entire rack to maybe 1/10 of a shelf. Java came on a lot stronger than Delphi, has a larger rack space, but that alone doesn't mean it won't fade away as well. (Doesn't mean it won't either, but that's my point)
Did it? Are you saying that anyone in the same position would enevitably gotten injured in the same way? Or is it that her specific body couldn't take the job? In that case, after she had prolonged problems it would be up to HER to determine if she wants to continue doing something that her own body can't handle or find another job. This case is not as cut and dried as say a construction worker using a jackhammer without hearing protection because the company wouldn;t allow it. Millions of people do jobs like hers and have NO wrist problems. If your unlucky enough to (After all precautions are taken) still have problems. It's YOUR responsibility to take care of your own body.
Ok, I like it. So you can strike the word "nobody" from that statement.
The question is: Did you patch it? Or are you now a sitting duck for several known BIND root hacks? And after patching. Have you continuously kept up with security news to make sure that you don't get hit with a new exploit? It's a LOT of work and responsibility to run virtually any kind of server. It's almost like there should be a license for it (as in driver's), with tickets given out to people that slack off and become infected. :)
This "cure" is FAR worse than the disease. :( When this kind of attitude takes over we will then truly be in tech. hell.
Actually with all the "Netscape sucks" and "Mozilla sucks" every time they are brought up in a non confrontational context with IE (Such as when a new release is announced). You could say that /. is firmly on the side of Microsoft as well. Why is it that MSNBC is biased when they say that Netscape 6.0 was buggy, but when everyone on /. (and almost everywhere else on the net) says the same thing they're not? That just shows that comments like the one above are the biased ones...
Agreed. So let's boycott Linux Today until he resigns. He's done nothing less than what MS and others have done (Specifically astroturfing) that invariably leds to calls of boycotts. Everyone on /. boycotting MS or Apple or Real hardly has any effect, but THIS has a chance to work! If everyone on /. boycotted Linux Today until he resigns and there is some proof of a return of jounalistic integrity, I think they would probably have to take notice. It's gets harder and harder to say anything negative about MS when your own house is morally crumbling around you. Course I'm just a pro MS troll, what do I know? But at least I'm not a /. editor :)
No it's true! And Tesla invented a way to create unlimited energy forever! So, Actually. Why is it that we can't moderate the articles themselves? I mean this really deserves a 0. The mac rant article earlier deserved a -1. It's like the people posting either don;t acutally read the source articles themselves or put maybe 2 seconds of thought into them. "News for Nerds" deserves a little more peer review before being blasted out like a bad onion fart. Jeeze...
So true! It's a sad, sad truth. People will steal anything that isn't nailed down or hooked up to an alarm (And well, even then). It's SO hard to get worked up about these things when you realise that the ONLY reason they're doing it is because they are already being ripped off. I mean /. gets all pissy anytime something OS is ripped off. But Huges, MS, (insert anyone you don't like here) can just go to hell? It's the constant /. hypocrasy that really hurts. It's a daily stab in the eye to read articles like this. There is absolutely no reason Huges shouldn't do whatever is necessary to keep people from stealing from them. How much does it cost to put up a satelite anyway? Look what happened to Iridium. If enough people steal there'll be no DirectTV at all. (Ok, no one stole from iridium, my point being, if they don't MAKE ENOUGH MONEY, it won't exist.)
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Last month it got PPP support? That's hilarious! :)
It said it was baseball sized in the CNN article that was liked at the top of the original /. article. I commented on it at the time. Why did /. have a "Our local Fox affiliate is reporting a compact-car size metior may have hit north central PA Monday evening" statement when the CNN story linked to said in fact a baseball sized meteorite didn't even hit the ground? Where did it say it was 1-2 meters? Are diferent people seeing links to different stories????
We have people running over 16 pedestrians while trying to pull out of a parking space. We have teens smashing up 6 cars and one pedestrian while trying to park during a driving test. I can't wait for the RealTV footage when everyone is zooming around at 400 MPH!
I don't think that was the processor ID they were talking about. Since only a few intel chips have them. They're probably using the ID that every processor has that tells it's make, model, stepping etc.
Passport is *an* authentication system. Authors of software based on .NET *can* use passport if they want. Or IBM or anyone else could setup their own authenticatoin system, and developers could use that instead. Hailstorm is just an SDK for using passport (and other utility services). IBM, SUN or anyone else interested could setup their own system and issue an SDK for that. This probably *won't* happen though as setting up a large authentication system takes a very large amount of resources. So As usual, becuase 99.999% of the rest of the industry is lazy, Passport will become once again a defacto MS "standard". And if it does, then MS is not to blame, but everyone else that refused to lift a finger to supply an alternative worthy of being used.
Actually any post with "M$" in it should be modded down automatically...
I expected this to get modded down. /. is hardly the place to discuss shortcomings in the OS model now is it? As long as we all pat each other on the back endlessly in a big circle all is well... It's the awful truth.
Thanks for the rational post. I'd also like to add that the MS's current scoping of the for loop variable is in fact in the 3.0 C++ standard! There is an appendix that deals with the effects of the sever rescoping of the loop var that took place and it basicly says that compiler vendors are free to implement the new scoping rules or stick with the old as they wish. There are good and bad effects of the new scoping rules and it's completely wrong to just say MS "Did it wrong". THey made a choice that is completely within the 3.0 ANSI C++ spec. The logical thing to do is, if you plan on doing cross platform development, just define the variable outside the for loop and get on with life. It's hardly such a big deal that it requires this constant battle.
Photoshop Elements is 90% of photoshop at 1/10 the price. And it blows GIMP seven ways from sunday. Elements can be bought from Adobe or online. Do a google search for "Photoshop Elements". It's either $99 or $69 with a rebate.
Well as usual, MOST of the people replying negatively are doing nothing more than knee jerking. They know little to nothing about it, they hear Microsoft, they bash. But it seems like a FEW people have actually investigated the underpinnings of .NET and have seen some promise in the archetecture and the need for such an archetecture and are going to make sure that Linux will be there to play the game. It may end up being much ado about nothing like JAVA has become, but Linux has JAVA doesn't it? Good? Bad? Time will tell. But dismissing things out of hand will never allow you find out...
Well to test that theory, I installed Web Washer http://www.webwasher.com and now it blocks the /. banner ads! I suggest everyone else do the same. (Or use the local host trick) Then we'll see if they're hypocrits or not :)
Their site seems to indicate that it works on glibc2.1 Linux and Mac as well. IE, Netscape and Opera.