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You don't need to know how to program. Every day about 100 bugs are reported. You can help by checking them for duplicates. Another way of helping is to test the bugs reported on Windoze and Mac and see if they also affect your Linux Box. This will prevent the people who can "program worth a lick" from wasting time that could spent fixing bugs.
Re:Amusing standards compliance related crash...
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Octane rating is how fuel performs on a standard test engine. If the sample fuel performs as good as a mixture of 95% Octane and 5% Septane then it is given an Octane rating of 95. If it performs better than 100% pure Octane a math formula is used to assign an Octane rating of 100 plus (Mainly used for racing and aviation fuel) Octane is used as the base because it has the best anti-knock properties of any of the hydrocarbons in gasoline. Septane is used as the other part of the mix because it has the worst anti-knock properties.
For years, whenever hidden APIs have been mentioned, MS has claimed that "ALL the APIs have been published." In the unlikely event they were telling the truth, They are offering nothing. On the other hand, If they were lying, Then why should I beleave the new list is complete?
IANAL M$ would still have to follow US laws for any products they exported to the US. The only way they could escape from US law would be to move and give up thier largest market by refusing to sell any M$ product in the USA. If they wanted to continue US sells they would not only have to contend with the DOJ, they would lose most of the policital they currentally have. They would also get the US Xenophobes calling for an end to "them furriners" dominating the software market.
"They described it as a potential threat to billions of dollars in state and local sales tax collections that pay for schools, roads, police and fire protection."
Why are essential services allways threatened? Maybe it's to shift attention away from the Billions of dollars in state and local taxes that pay for pork barrell projects, Sweet-heart deals for big campaign contribuitors, and bloated goverment. The problem isn't the goverment getting too little money, It's the goverment wasting too much money.
"Yet an internet business in the same area uses all of these things, yet doesn't have to pay for any of it?" Do you have any idea of what you are talking about? A Web business pays the same properity, and school taxes as the nearby local merchant, and also collects the same sales taxes on his local sales as the brick and morter merchant. A great many of the Web stores are in fact the small stores you mentioned. Any local merchant can set up a web site and expand his sales beyond the area his store is located in. For every Amazon.com there are dozens of small buisnessmen who are offering web sales in addition to the sales out of the store, and unlike Amazon making a profit. The local buisness that has good service is in no danger from the web. You can't provide the same level of service over the internet that you can in a face to face buisness deal. The Wal-marts are the one who are threatened by the web. The stores that provide no service. Wal-mart drove many small buisnesses under, Now the web has given the small buisnessman the weapon to fight back.
The 1st Admenment prohibits laws "abridging the freedom of speech", How many censorship laws do we have? The 2nd Admenment protects "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms", How many gun control laws do we have? The 4th Admenment which bans "unreasonable searches and seizures", is ignored for the war on drugs. The 5th Admenment says that nobody can be "compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself", Ask Mitnek about that one. The 6th Admenment protects "the right to a speedy and public trial", Ask Mitnek about that one too. The 8th Admenment states "Excessive bail shall not be required", How often have you heard of bail being set so high the defendant has no chance of raising it? The 13th Admenment prohobits "involuntary servitude", How many/. readers have a draft card? The 16th Admenment is really the only one the goverment dosen't ignore. It's the one that legalized the Income Tax.
Yes I'm talking about that "bum", Who stands on the corner begging, instead of going to the day labor pool and earning the money that could get him a place to stay for the night. Yes I'm talking about that "bum", Who took the five dollars someone gave him and invested it in cheap wine. Yes I'm talking about that "bum", Who will visit the local crack dealer for a rock the minute he gets ten dollars. Yes I'm talking about that "bum", Who could raise to the level of the working poor. Don't try to tell me it can't be done. Every month thousands of Mexicans enter the USA as homeless undocumented aliens, and quickly advance to the level of the working poor. Yes I'm talking about the working poor too. Yes I'm talking about the poor, Who get paid on Friday and show up for work monday, Broke with a hangover. Yes I'm talking about the poor, Who buy a cheap steero, instead of a used computer. I have a friend who's buisness consists of refurbing used computers. A DX2/486 goes for about $100.00 Yes I'm talking about the poor, Who would rather spend $20.00 for some pot, instead of a month's worth of internet access. Yes I'm talking about the poor, Who's only plan for getting ahead is to buy $10.00 worth of Lottery tickets Yes I'm talking about the poor, Who aren't willing to put the effort in to learn a trade that could advance them to the middle class. Visit your local US Army recruiter, and you will find someone who is willing to pay for your education. Another option is a Trade School, Often the cost is nominal to learn a skill that will raise you above the poverty level. Most of these courses only take a year. Just 1 year of 16 hour days, (School + Night Job), And you are lower middle class, at the very least. Want to go farther? Once you reach that level you have the income to take night classes at a Comunity College. Three or Four years of Part time Education, and you have an Associate's Degree.
"on the contrary to US where the rich become richer, the poor poorer" This happens because the Rich keep doing the things that made them Rich, While the Poor insist on repeating the mistakes that made them Poor. "forcing them to commit a crime, just to feed their families" Far more often the crime is commited to feed their drug habit
You forgot a few other things that need to be banned.
1) Astronomy - Lets go back to the geocentric model of the universe. That way we won't have any place to look for those pesky ETs. Don't forget the Bible says God stopped the Sun in the sky so the Hebrews could murder some people God didn't like. It says nothing about stopping the rotation of the Earth. 2) Biology - It has a horrible record of finding facts to support that evil theory of evoulation. 3) Palentology - We need to destroy all those fossils and make sure nobody finds any more. They mislead people into beleaving in evoulation. 4) Geology - These people don't beleave in Noah's flood! 5) Other fields of scince need to be carefully censored to remove non-christian contamination. 6) The First Admenment - That nonsense about no establishment of religion has to go. Then we can have a good Christian Theoarchy to protect us from thinking.
All this trouble started when Eve ate the fruit of the tree of knowledge. Once we ban knowledge, we can return to Paradise. Lets bring back the dark ages, led by our High Priest, Anonymous Coward.
Nuclear-powered Watches (They used to mix Radium with the glow in the dark paint on the dials so they would glow all night) Nuclear-powered souviners (The Atomic Bomb museum in Oakridge had a cool machine, you put a dime in it, and it bombarded the dime with Neutrons, Creating a souviner Radioactive Dime.)
Sales taxes and property taxes pay for local services. I allready pay these. I pay for the services I use. It costs me money to collect taxes. The other states get the value of an unpaid tax collector. It ammounts to a tax placed on me for services that I can't use. When I collect taxes on my local sales the money my state saves pays for services that I use. When I am forced to spend my money to help pay for services in another state, I am being forced to subsidise those services.
Last month I ordered some computer parts from a company located in the same state. I ordered on the web. They charged me the taxes, same as if I had ordered by phone. In state sales are allready liable for sales taxes.
Businesses recieve services from the state and should pay for these services. These services include Police and Fire protection, A court system to aid in collecting debts, and transportation services. I allready pay taxes to the state I live in for these services. It costs me time and money to collect these taxes for another state. I recieve nothing in return. You have it backwards. A subsidy is a payment. I am the one expected to pay. The local merchant is recieving the subsidy by being able to pay less taxes than the cost of the services he wants from his goverment.
>Do you drive on the roads in your state? I pay a fuel tax everytime I buy gasoline. >Did you go to public school? My parents paid school taxes on thier home. >Will your kids? I pay school taxes on my home and buisness. >Do you enjoy having a fire department? I pay ad volorum taxes on my home and buisness. I also pay sales taxes on products I buy locally and state income taxes. I am paying for the services I use. What services will a state a thousand miles away offer me? I won't be driving on thier roads. Neither myself nor my kids will attend thier schools. The fire department isn't going to drive a thousand miles to put my house out.
There are 2 types of customers. One is looking for the best price. He isn't intrested in great service. Maybe he's frugal, Maybe he allready knows the product and dosent require much service. That is my market. I can serve his needs as well as any local bargin merchant, and at a better price. The other type of customer considers service part of the product, and is willing to pay extra for this service. He may only have a general idea of what he wants. He needs expert advice from someone who can help him one on one. This is a market the local merchant can serve better than a web site a thousand miles away. There is room for both.
I am starting an Internet business, and I would like to know what services states I don't live in are going to offer me in return forcing me to be a tax collector for them? Nothing. How much do they plan on reimbursing me for the costs of collecting the taxes? Nothing. I keep hearing about the so called advantage no taxes gives me, but what about the advantages a local merchant has over me? His customers can leave the store with the product today. Mine have to wait at least a day for shipping, longer if they don't want to spring for overnight air. His customers don't have to pay for shipping, mine do. Then there's the biggest advantage of all. SERVICE. There is no way in hell I can offer the kind of service a knowledgeable salesperson, that is speaking directally to a customer, can offer. His customers can get an answer in seconds. Mine have to e-mail me and wait for a reply. Businesses with good customer service have nothing to fear from the internet. Businesses that hire high-school dropouts that can barely run a cash register are the ones in danger. Any local merchant who can't compete with the advantages he allready has desreves to go bankrupt.
Yahoo would be opening themselves up for lawsuits if they enforced the terms of service. Once they assume editorial control by removing some offensive sites, they can be sued for the content of sites they failed to remove.
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What the heck's wrong with getting divisive social issues put on the ballot?
I Grew up in Atlanta in the '60s and saw the cival rights movement first hand. I'm pretty sure it qualified as a "devisive social issue". I can assure you if this appeared on the ballot in any local or state election in the south, 40 years ago
"Should Negros have the same rights as Whites?"
It would have been defeated by a landslide! The racists in the south didn't have the "Right" to deny African-Americans thier cival rights. Fundamentalists don't have the "right" to deny others thier first admenment rights.
Frist I am a Libertarian, I have denounced the US involvement in the death squads in other forums. I'm not sure of your count, it may be too high, however 1 death is too many. You have the location wrong, the death squads operated in Central America, Not South America. I know Marxists like to call all oppenants Facist, But the Policital climate in Central America is closer to Fuedelism (Power held by great landowners who act as the goverment to peasents) than to Facism (Absoulate power in central goverment).
>Marxists don't have a monopoly on brutality. Marxism is a form of Statism, along with Facism, Imperialism, and Democracy. All flavors of Statists have committed barbaric acts in the past, and will do so in the future. Marxists just have more blood on thier hands than the other Statists.
Gates knows that open source hackers wouldn't be able to resist looking at Win source. So MS dumps miles of poorly documented spagetti code on them, resulting in real open source projects being delayed for years due to Win source induced trauma.
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You don't need to know how to program. Every day about 100 bugs are reported. You can help by checking them for duplicates. Another way of helping is to test the bugs reported on Windoze and Mac and see if they also affect your Linux Box. This will prevent the people who can "program worth a lick" from wasting time that could spent fixing bugs.
see bug 34520.
Octane rating is how fuel performs on a standard test engine. If the sample fuel performs as good as a mixture of 95% Octane and 5% Septane then it is given an Octane rating of 95. If it performs better than 100% pure Octane a math formula is used to assign an Octane rating of 100 plus (Mainly used for racing and aviation fuel) Octane is used as the base because it has the best anti-knock properties of any of the hydrocarbons in gasoline. Septane is used as the other part of the mix because it has the worst anti-knock properties.
For years, whenever hidden APIs have been mentioned, MS has claimed that "ALL the APIs have been published." In the unlikely event they were telling the truth, They are offering nothing. On the other hand, If they were lying, Then why should I beleave the new list is complete?
IANAL
M$ would still have to follow US laws for any products they exported to the US. The only way they could escape from US law would be to move and give up thier largest market by refusing to sell any M$ product in the USA.
If they wanted to continue US sells they would not only have to contend with the DOJ, they would lose most of the policital they currentally have. They would also get the US Xenophobes calling for an end to "them furriners" dominating the software market.
"They described it as a potential threat to billions of dollars in state and local sales tax collections that pay for schools, roads, police and fire protection."
Why are essential services allways threatened? Maybe it's to shift attention away from the Billions of dollars in state and local taxes that pay for pork barrell projects, Sweet-heart deals for big campaign contribuitors, and bloated goverment.
The problem isn't the goverment getting too little money, It's the goverment wasting too much money.
"Yet an internet business in the same area uses all of these things, yet doesn't have to pay for any of it?"
Do you have any idea of what you are talking about? A Web business pays the same properity, and school taxes as the nearby local merchant, and also collects the same sales taxes on his local sales as the brick and morter merchant.
A great many of the Web stores are in fact the small stores you mentioned. Any local merchant can set up a web site and expand his sales beyond the area his store is located in. For every Amazon.com there are dozens of small buisnessmen who are offering web sales in addition to the sales out of the store, and unlike Amazon making a profit.
The local buisness that has good service is in no danger from the web. You can't provide the same level of service over the internet that you can in a face to face buisness deal. The Wal-marts are the one who are threatened by the web. The stores that provide no service. Wal-mart drove many small buisnesses under, Now the web has given the small buisnessman the weapon to fight back.
The 1st Admenment prohibits laws "abridging the freedom of speech", How many censorship laws do we have? /. readers have a draft card?
The 2nd Admenment protects "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms", How many gun control laws do we have?
The 4th Admenment which bans "unreasonable searches and seizures", is ignored for the war on drugs.
The 5th Admenment says that nobody can be "compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself", Ask Mitnek about that one.
The 6th Admenment protects "the right to a speedy and public trial", Ask Mitnek about that one too.
The 8th Admenment states "Excessive bail shall not be required", How often have you heard of bail being set so high the defendant has no chance of raising it?
The 13th Admenment prohobits "involuntary servitude", How many
The 16th Admenment is really the only one the goverment dosen't ignore. It's the one that legalized the Income Tax.
With the AOL/Time-Warner merger, I'd have to bet on Steve Case.
Yes I'm talking about that "bum", Who stands on the corner begging, instead of going to the day labor pool and earning the money that could get him a place to stay for the night.
Yes I'm talking about that "bum", Who took the five dollars someone gave him and invested it in cheap wine.
Yes I'm talking about that "bum", Who will visit the local crack dealer for a rock the minute he gets ten dollars.
Yes I'm talking about that "bum", Who could raise to the level of the working poor. Don't try to tell me it can't be done. Every month thousands of Mexicans enter the USA as homeless undocumented aliens, and quickly advance to the level of the working poor.
Yes I'm talking about the working poor too.
Yes I'm talking about the poor, Who get paid on Friday and show up for work monday, Broke with a hangover.
Yes I'm talking about the poor, Who buy a cheap steero, instead of a used computer. I have a friend who's buisness consists of refurbing used computers. A DX2/486 goes for about $100.00
Yes I'm talking about the poor, Who would rather spend $20.00 for some pot, instead of a month's worth of internet access.
Yes I'm talking about the poor, Who's only plan for getting ahead is to buy $10.00 worth of Lottery tickets
Yes I'm talking about the poor, Who aren't willing to put the effort in to learn a trade that could advance them to the middle class. Visit your local US Army recruiter, and you will find someone who is willing to pay for your education. Another option is a Trade School, Often the cost is nominal to learn a skill that will raise you above the poverty level. Most of these courses only take a year. Just 1 year of 16 hour days, (School + Night Job), And you are lower middle class, at the very least.
Want to go farther? Once you reach that level you have the income to take night classes at a Comunity College. Three or Four years of Part time Education, and you have an Associate's Degree.
"on the contrary to US where the rich become richer, the poor poorer"
This happens because the Rich keep doing the things that made them Rich, While the Poor insist on repeating the mistakes that made them Poor.
"forcing them to commit a crime, just to feed their families"
Far more often the crime is commited to feed their drug habit
You forgot a few other things that need to be banned.
1) Astronomy - Lets go back to the geocentric model of the universe. That way we won't have any place to look for those pesky ETs. Don't forget the Bible says God stopped the Sun in the sky so the Hebrews could murder some people God didn't like. It says nothing about stopping the rotation of the Earth.
2) Biology - It has a horrible record of finding facts to support that evil theory of evoulation.
3) Palentology - We need to destroy all those fossils and make sure nobody finds any more. They mislead people into beleaving in evoulation.
4) Geology - These people don't beleave in Noah's flood!
5) Other fields of scince need to be carefully censored to remove non-christian contamination.
6) The First Admenment - That nonsense about no establishment of religion has to go. Then we can have a good Christian Theoarchy to protect us from thinking.
All this trouble started when Eve ate the fruit of the tree of knowledge. Once we ban knowledge, we can return to Paradise. Lets bring back the dark ages, led by our High Priest, Anonymous Coward.
Nuclear-powered Watches (They used to mix Radium with the glow in the dark paint on the dials so they would glow all night)
Nuclear-powered souviners (The Atomic Bomb museum in Oakridge had a cool machine, you put a dime in it, and it bombarded the dime with Neutrons, Creating a souviner Radioactive Dime.)
Sales taxes and property taxes pay for local services. I allready pay these. I pay for the services I use.
It costs me money to collect taxes. The other states get the value of an unpaid tax collector. It ammounts to a tax placed on me for services that I can't use. When I collect taxes on my local sales the money my state saves pays for services that I use.
When I am forced to spend my money to help pay for services in another state, I am being forced to subsidise those services.
Last month I ordered some computer parts from a company located in the same state. I ordered on the web. They charged me the taxes, same as if I had ordered by phone. In state sales are allready liable for sales taxes.
Businesses recieve services from the state and should pay for these services. These services include Police and Fire protection, A court system to aid in collecting debts, and transportation services. I allready pay taxes to the state I live in for these services. It costs me time and money to collect these taxes for another state. I recieve nothing in return. You have it backwards. A subsidy is a payment. I am the one expected to pay. The local merchant is recieving the subsidy by being able to pay less taxes than the cost of the services he wants from his goverment.
>Do you drive on the roads in your state?
I pay a fuel tax everytime I buy gasoline.
>Did you go to public school?
My parents paid school taxes on thier home.
>Will your kids?
I pay school taxes on my home and buisness.
>Do you enjoy having a fire department?
I pay ad volorum taxes on my home and buisness.
I also pay sales taxes on products I buy locally and state income taxes. I am paying for the services I use. What services will a state a thousand miles away offer me? I won't be driving on thier roads. Neither myself nor my kids will attend thier schools. The fire department isn't going to drive a thousand miles to put my house out.
There are 2 types of customers. One is looking for the best price. He isn't intrested in great service. Maybe he's frugal, Maybe he allready knows the product and dosent require much service. That is my market. I can serve his needs as well as any local bargin merchant, and at a better price. The other type of customer considers service part of the product, and is willing to pay extra for this service. He may only have a general idea of what he wants. He needs expert advice from someone who can help him one on one. This is a market the local merchant can serve better than a web site a thousand miles away. There is room for both.
I am starting an Internet business, and I would like to know what services states I don't live in are going to offer me in return forcing me to be a tax collector for them? Nothing. How much do they plan on reimbursing me for the costs of collecting the taxes? Nothing.
I keep hearing about the so called advantage no taxes gives me, but what about the advantages a local merchant has over me? His customers can leave the store with the product today. Mine have to wait at least a day for shipping, longer if they don't want to spring for overnight air. His customers don't have to pay for shipping, mine do.
Then there's the biggest advantage of all. SERVICE. There is no way in hell I can offer the kind of service a knowledgeable salesperson, that is speaking directally to a customer, can offer. His customers can get an answer in seconds. Mine have to e-mail me and wait for a reply.
Businesses with good customer service have nothing to fear from the internet. Businesses that hire high-school dropouts that can barely run a cash register are the ones in danger. Any local merchant who can't compete with the advantages he allready has desreves to go bankrupt.
At least according to Jan Leger's post on the Seamonkey news group.
Yahoo would be opening themselves up for lawsuits if they enforced the terms of service. Once they assume editorial control by removing some offensive sites, they can be sued for the content of sites they failed to remove.
What the heck's wrong with getting divisive social issues put on the ballot?
I Grew up in Atlanta in the '60s and saw the cival rights movement first hand. I'm pretty sure it qualified as a "devisive social issue". I can assure you if this appeared on the ballot in any local or state election in the south, 40 years ago
"Should Negros have the same rights as Whites?"
It would have been defeated by a landslide! The racists in the south didn't have the "Right" to deny African-Americans thier cival rights. Fundamentalists don't have the "right" to deny others thier first admenment rights.
Frist I am a Libertarian, I have denounced the US involvement in the death squads in other forums.
I'm not sure of your count, it may be too high, however 1 death is too many. You have the location wrong, the death squads operated in Central America, Not South America. I know Marxists like to call all oppenants Facist, But the Policital climate in Central America is closer to Fuedelism (Power held by great landowners who act as the goverment to peasents) than to Facism (Absoulate power in central goverment).
>Marxists don't have a monopoly on brutality.
Marxism is a form of Statism, along with Facism, Imperialism, and Democracy. All flavors of Statists have committed barbaric acts in the past, and will do so in the future. Marxists just have more blood on thier hands than the other Statists.
MPAA member Fox would release it, So I won't be seeing any Simpsons movies, Untill the DeCSS lawsuits are dropped.
Gates knows that open source hackers wouldn't be able to resist looking at Win source. So MS dumps miles of poorly documented spagetti code on them, resulting in real open source projects being delayed for years due to Win source induced trauma.