I definitely concur with you. Ignore them and they become increasingly annoying until you can't ignore them any more; pester and ridicule them, and they throw a hissy fit and shut up.
I kind of think that way also: anything which deserves to be listened to, or read and taken seriously, should have it's authors name signed.
I know this is not a very popular opinion, but hiding yourself behind an anonymous curtain lessens the value of whatever you're expressing, since it's assumed that you don't want to sign your name on it.
I've never understood the sad devotion to vi and vim and other obfuscated tools that UNIX elitists have. Sure I can use vi, but why in god's name would anyone want to unless they're forced to work over ssh for all of their development?
If you're comfortable with it, that's one thing. Recommending somebody else cripple themselves with obsolete technology that completely ignores how people actually work because it should be enough for anybody reeks of that famous Bill Gates quote.
Your ignorance about the reasons why others might want to choose a tool, it's uses and customizations, together with your patronizing attitude towards other peoples choices, does not make a compelling argument.
If vim is not the right tool for you, it's not the right tool for you, and that's the end of it. Currently, it's the right tool for many thousands of developers using ssh, windows, X11, text consoles, MSDOS (still!), and many other mediums not mentioned.
And I'm not a vim zealot, I know emacs is the right tool for thousands others; and it's an awesome tool, just not the right one for me (and many others).
Would you consider 5 people with this knowledge "wide open"? 5000?
Actually, you only need one blackhat to have
the information to have an automatic exploit
available, then you've got script kiddies bringing
down routers left and right.
Or, why not sell the tool exclusively so some
blackmailer, who'll use it to extort money off of
network operators in order to not bring then down? Or perhaps... some other apocaliptic [sp?] scenario.
So the disclosure was the right thing to do,
maybe it's gonna hurt, surely many are going to
be offended, but if it gets Cisco off their ass
and actually makes them do something about
the problem with their equipment (junk!!)
then it was worth it.
...or needing some cygwin-esque environment to run Python or something else.
What cygwin-esque environment is needed to run python apps? Links and resources, please...
Normally, I just install python's win32 installer, and run my apps. If I need some third-party extension, I just install it, and go. No need for any cygwin-esque environment.
Who is this we? I hope you're not talking on my behalf, I have absolutely no simpathy for a (nebulous, hypothetic) CIO who's priorities are immediate, on-hand cash, instead of medium-to-long-term company information security and stability.
Why is it that every whiner --excuse me, but you are whining-- brings out the "But, think of the CIOs!" plea?
A CIO is a professional, and an executive. I'm not saying that this person should examine each and every distro; more like he/she should plan ahead, and make his people examine each and every distro in order to find those that align with the company's direction and policies. Anything less would be irresponsible.
The "face of computing", to call it something, hasn't been "Windows" forever, and even when it's been windows, it's been changing on the whim of a single company (Microsoft). Anybody who doesn't acknowledge this, and mistakenly thinks that thanks to Windows and Microsoft things have been peachy-keen, should have his/her head examined.
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I definitely concur with you. Ignore them and they become increasingly annoying until you can't ignore them any more; pester and ridicule them, and they throw a hissy fit and shut up.
So you're implying that it's ok to fly over to their countries and blow them up like this?
I know you're not, but that's what it sounds like.
How sure are you that those people down there in fact are your enemies?
Or have they gone down the road of believing that everyone is their enemy?
That's pretty scary; most of the people there just want to be left alone and to live their lives in peace, you know, like you and I?
So you think it's ok?
Actually, adrenalin makes the meat stringy and tough.
You want the animal totally relaxed when it's slaughtered, precisely to prevent that.
I kind of think that way also: anything which deserves to be listened to, or read and taken seriously, should have it's authors name signed.
I know this is not a very popular opinion, but hiding yourself behind an anonymous curtain lessens the value of whatever you're expressing, since it's assumed that you don't want to sign your name on it.
Really, I've never seen any car, in México or in the US, with a "chime" that went off over a certain speed.
This has to be some kind of requirement specific to the UAE.
make it stop!
...
I've never understood the sad devotion to vi and vim and other obfuscated tools that UNIX elitists have. Sure I can use vi, but why in god's name would anyone want to unless they're forced to work over ssh for all of their development?
If you're comfortable with it, that's one thing. Recommending somebody else cripple themselves with obsolete technology that completely ignores how people actually work because it should be enough for anybody reeks of that famous Bill Gates quote.
Your ignorance about the reasons why others might want to choose a tool, it's uses and customizations, together with your patronizing attitude towards other peoples choices, does not make a compelling argument.
If vim is not the right tool for you, it's not the right tool for you, and that's the end of it. Currently, it's the right tool for many thousands of developers using ssh, windows, X11, text consoles, MSDOS (still!), and many other mediums not mentioned.
And I'm not a vim zealot, I know emacs is the right tool for thousands others; and it's an awesome tool, just not the right one for me (and many others).
Why recommend xfs, when jfs is smaller and faster?
Should we all get off your lawn? :-)
It's not fair that we punish the few bullies whose targets choose to martyr themselves. They didn't choose to have their target commit suicide.
So now it's poor little bullies, is it?
-gus
BWAAAHAHAHAHAHHA!!!!
:-D
I wish I had modpoints, damn, that's the best story
I've read in a while
-gus
Fatality! :-D
-gca
YOU sir, just made my day :-D
Thankyou so very much for the laughs!
-gus
Damn I wish I had modpoints... -gus
Same as in Chile, all registered adults
have to vote, else, face severe fines
and probably jail time.
Voting is a legal obligation, I hope
something like that is enacted here
in Mexico too.
-gca
BWWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Thanks for the laughs, you really made my day.
-gca
It's a sharp cinnimon [sp?] gum. Likely to be US only, the plenty pack is 20 sticks IIRC.
It's: CINNAMON
What if you cut your toungue on it?
Actually, it's YOU who can't read:
I wholeheartedly agree, I've suffered through Progress' lack of compatability with *any* kind of open-source or third-party tools.
-gusWould you consider 5 people with this knowledge "wide open"? 5000?
Actually, you only need one blackhat to have the information to have an automatic exploit available, then you've got script kiddies bringing down routers left and right.
Or, why not sell the tool exclusively so some blackmailer, who'll use it to extort money off of network operators in order to not bring then down? Or perhaps... some other apocaliptic [sp?] scenario.
So the disclosure was the right thing to do, maybe it's gonna hurt, surely many are going to be offended, but if it gets Cisco off their ass and actually makes them do something about the problem with their equipment (junk!!) then it was worth it.
-gusWhat cygwin-esque environment is needed to run python apps? Links and resources, please...
Normally, I just install python's win32 installer, and run my apps. If I need some third-party extension, I just install it, and go. No need for any cygwin-esque environment.
-gus
When we nail all these we will be well on track.
Who is this we? I hope you're not talking on my behalf, I have absolutely no simpathy for a (nebulous, hypothetic) CIO who's priorities are immediate, on-hand cash, instead of medium-to-long-term company information security and stability.
Why is it that every whiner --excuse me, but you are whining-- brings out the "But, think of the CIOs!" plea?
A CIO is a professional, and an executive. I'm not saying that this person should examine each and every distro; more like he/she should plan ahead, and make his people examine each and every distro in order to find those that align with the company's direction and policies. Anything less would be irresponsible.
The "face of computing", to call it something, hasn't been "Windows" forever, and even when it's been windows, it's been changing on the whim of a single company (Microsoft). Anybody who doesn't acknowledge this, and mistakenly thinks that thanks to Windows and Microsoft things have been peachy-keen, should have his/her head examined.
-gcaBecause they don't want to be bastards?
-gus
It's a semantic error: the sentence, although syntactically correct, had it's meaning changed by the typo.
Any programmer worth his/her salt knows that semantic bugs are much more difficult to diagnose and correct than syntactic ones.
-gus