Well atleast they got one thing right.. (ot)
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Kernels Galore
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Posted by Synsthe:
They truly are anonymous cowards.
This will get moderated down I'm almost positive, but somebody has to say it; anonymous posting is a big reason why slashdot is such a pavillion for flamers, lusers, and lamers, this particular news item being a classic example.
Who wants to bet the guy who got moderated a 5 for being a troll moderated himself up or had a luser buddy do it? Don't try and tell me he can't moderate himself up, if he posted anon than logged in, he very well could.
Who else wants to make a bet that half the lusers in here bashing Linux for no good reason (other than perhaps fear?) are probably mostly the same people just posting repeatedly as AC's?
Get over yourselves kids. Mommy and Daddy didn't give you access to the computer so you could practice being an immature brat, I'm pretty sure they hoped you would learn a thing or two.
Rant over, back to the topic at hand, atleast marginally.. =) The release of 2.0.38 doesn't affect anybody, so why the huge outcry? If you're using 2.2.x and happy with it, than good for you, but there are some who like to remain with kernel trees they've used for a length of time, and trust.
The argument remains that it's silly to shoot up to the latest, simply for the fact that it's the latest. This is a problem you have with Windows, you can't shop around and find something that's good for your system, you're given a release every year or few and that's that. You're stuck with it, no questions asked.
Okay, we'll narrow the search on the windows system a bit. I'll just peer at \Windows\System and \Windows\System32
Well, well, still almost 200 megs. (well, okay, to be fair it's only 156).
Now I'll try and even it up a little more, and include/dev in the above equation. That sill only adds another 18 megs, bringing it to a total of under 25 megs on the nix box.
Of course the comparison will never be completely fair, they are two completely different operating systems. The point I was trying to prove was that this person obviously isn't doing their homework though if they think a base install of Linux is more space intensive than that of a windows box.
Lay off the fumes man, you're starting to see cross eyed.
If I wander over to the windows 98 machine I have in this house, and click properties for both the System and Windows folders, I get a combined size of just over 600 megabytes. The Windows folder is such a mess because of a poor set up on their part that I don't even want to bother trying to clean it up anymore.
If I however run a couple quick ``du -sh'' comands on my nix box, I come up with a combined size of under 5 megs for/boot, and/etc. The kernels less than a meg of that, around 550kb to be exact.
So what kind of weird hallucinagens have you been taking today? It looks an awful lot to me like the core operating system size differences are quite exponentially different, in favour of Linux being the more compact and less bloated.
Where's the news? If you go to http://www.networksolutions.com/cgi-bin/whois/whoi s you'll notice there's already gif 468x60 ad banners displayed there.
Albeit they are merely ads for linking to another part of NSI's site, the fact that they were/are there should have been enough advance warning for anybody with multiple brain cells and synapse function to figure out that they would eventually run full fledged ad campaigns.
The problem being, no matter where they stick the ads, you can't stop them; they're not inserting the ads into the actual whois database, they're putting them on the pages and what not that display and format pieces of information from that database. So they very well could even put text ads into whois replies if they wanted to.
Ads are everywhere. You get them in snail mail constantly just like you get them through email (though notice how nobody goes and tracks down the postal company that sent it to get the sender shut down?), you see them on tv (they fit shows in between them on occasion), you get them in magazines, in the phone book, in your newspaper, you get them driving down the highway.
This particular case is not NSI being evil (though trust me, I don't like them one bit), just them jumping on the bandwagon with everybody else.
Of course it's "contracting". There is no barrier to entry for anybody on the web, for personal sites, or business. It's the easiest place to put something up about yourself or your "business".
With tools like FrontPage floating around too, it gets even easier to put something up that's got the quality level of a cow's paddock.
So the sites that are frequented the most are going to be the ones with good content, good interfaces etc. Those sites are usually (usually) run by the big companies. Therefore it only makes sense that the flows of traffic would bend towards that area of the web.
That's just silly, not everything has to be GPL to be good. You're living in a world where you just don't want to pay for anything, that's all. Get over it.
Money makes the world go around, and it's not going away anytime soon. GPL and open source are not going to make it go away. Linux (and I'm not saying this is a good thing, but it's a true thing) needs more commercial support to make an even bigger path for itself in the long run, and such developments as this could be very, very good for that.
If you don't want to use it, nobody is forcing you into it. When you're left behind playing your psx games and everybody else is out there making the big bucks working on the platform they like best, we'll try and remember you. =)
Since when is what I said giving up? It's called accepting facts. If you get yourself in an uproar over this, you're taking the issue much too seriously.
It's nothing new. So now they have a tool to look through your wall or whatever. Big deal? Before if they needed to, they could kick down your door and look directly at you. The only difference is now that you may live out your days never knowing who was peaking through the walls.
There is no such thing as true privacy anyways, so if you're worried about this, I've got news for you: You're wasting your time.
Look back through slashdot history alone and read all the articles on it. Privacy is a relative term - sure, you can take a shower without being seen (hopefully), and sometimes you can get away with talking on the phone without being heard in the next room. But all the security/government/yadda yadda agencies out there can subvert that privacy anytime they wish if they wanted to.
So why worry?
It's just another tool the cops can use to hunt out the bad guys and make "the world a better place".
Linux couldn't handle it? It had nothing to do with Linux. Their bandwidth was dead. The linux box crashed a whole once due to not being allocated proper memory for such a task.
Meanwhile windows2000test.com has been down as much as linuxppc up, and up as much as linuxppc was down.
So I think if you believe this declares Windows the winner, that you need to get your eyes checked. Either that, or it means the frontal lobotomy was succesful.
Neither won. It wasn't a contest to see which would last longest. It was a contest to see if you could crack into the box. Since windows has been down, nobody has been able to crack it. Since immature folks (yourself included?) couldn't handle the contest at linuxppc, it has been taken to a new playing ground.
What ever happened to freedom of religion? One of the points listed is that "evolution isn't in any of the biblical teachings". So what?
I am not Christian, as are many others. I myself am Pagan. There are also buddhists, atheists, you name it, they're out there. The Bible does _not_ rule our lives. It should not be a factor whatsoever in this.
It's a joke. We need people in our education system that can teach these kids without such arrogant bias. They should be given the right and the ability to make their own decision, from an educated stand point, not have it thrust upon them because some fanaticals believe there is only one true way, and that it's their way.
By releasing the domino server for linux, what lotus is trying to doing is reduce the cost of setting up a notes based network in a small-to-medium sized office.
By using linux as the base platform for the server, the office still gets the functionality of the domino server but also the added bonus of a proxy server, DNS, firewall and all the other networking functions in linux what are provided for free. This for simply the cost of the domino server (what they would have needed to purchased anyway) and a copy of linux.
btw- i have been told by my sources, that lotus does infact plan to release a version of the notes client in the near future.
You're kidding right? Do you know _anybody_ who actually reads the MS Windows changelog when upgrading from 95 tp 98, or 9x to NT, etc? Does MS even provide changelogs?
This is indicative of nothing more than the simple fact that your kind (trolls and pranksters) are alive and well on the internet, and aren't showing any signs of going away.
Please, quit your job at Microsoft and get real work. Spreading FUD only serves to get a big red "troll" stamped on your forehead.;-)
bwhahahhaha NT has MDI applications ahahhahahhaah MDI microsoft invented MDI i hate MDI. don't u hate it when ure running a word processor and typing in two documents and can't have a web page on top of the bottom document and typing from the top document?
Re:"Laws" and "Bills" are NOT the same thing!
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New Cyberlaws
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Posted by Justin:
please enlighten me. i am curious to know the difference.
perhaps you mean CSE (canadian NSA)? i know there were a few of those registered for the conference. there also was a guy in the fifth or sixth row (i sat in the third row and politely declined the poking and prodding for me to take a bow when the slashdot joke came up) who had a white navy-looking uniform...maybe he was a CSE guy?
perhaps the term "enterprise credibility" was misleading. i didn't mean using it in an enterprise-critical application, but rather giving people who make purchasing and other decisions in large businesses a good impression of linux.
I knew that I was really getting into the geek stuff when I read User Friendly and laughed, because I understood some obscure BeOS reference. The strip is a great barometer of this burgeoning "geek culture" that everyone is talking about, and the Dust Puppy is the greatest face you could ever put on that culture.
this is a 64 bit implementation of the powerpc chip. power3 and power4 are followups to the PowerPC 620 design(power3 was originally called PowerPC 630). it is simliar in design but i'm not suggesting binary compatiblity with 32 bit powerpc chips like the G4
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Posted by Synsthe:
They truly are anonymous cowards.
This will get moderated down I'm almost positive, but somebody has to say it; anonymous posting is a big reason why slashdot is such a pavillion for flamers, lusers, and lamers, this particular news item being a classic example.
Who wants to bet the guy who got moderated a 5 for being a troll moderated himself up or had a luser buddy do it? Don't try and tell me he can't moderate himself up, if he posted anon than logged in, he very well could.
Who else wants to make a bet that half the lusers in here bashing Linux for no good reason (other than perhaps fear?) are probably mostly the same people just posting repeatedly as AC's?
Get over yourselves kids. Mommy and Daddy didn't give you access to the computer so you could practice being an immature brat, I'm pretty sure they hoped you would learn a thing or two.
Rant over, back to the topic at hand, atleast marginally.. =) The release of 2.0.38 doesn't affect anybody, so why the huge outcry? If you're using 2.2.x and happy with it, than good for you, but there are some who like to remain with kernel trees they've used for a length of time, and trust.
The argument remains that it's silly to shoot up to the latest, simply for the fact that it's the latest. This is a problem you have with Windows, you can't shop around and find something that's good for your system, you're given a release every year or few and that's that. You're stuck with it, no questions asked.
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Mark Waterous (mark@projectlinux.org)
Posted by Synsthe:
/dev in the above equation. That sill only adds another 18 megs, bringing it to a total of under 25 megs on the nix box.
Okay, we'll narrow the search on the windows system a bit. I'll just peer at \Windows\System and \Windows\System32
Well, well, still almost 200 megs. (well, okay, to be fair it's only 156).
Now I'll try and even it up a little more, and include
Of course the comparison will never be completely fair, they are two completely different operating systems. The point I was trying to prove was that this person obviously isn't doing their homework though if they think a base install of Linux is more space intensive than that of a windows box.
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Mark Waterous (mark@projectlinux.org)
Posted by Synsthe:
/boot, and /etc. The kernels less than a meg of that, around 550kb to be exact.
Lay off the fumes man, you're starting to see cross eyed.
If I wander over to the windows 98 machine I have in this house, and click properties for both the System and Windows folders, I get a combined size of just over 600 megabytes. The Windows folder is such a mess because of a poor set up on their part that I don't even want to bother trying to clean it up anymore.
If I however run a couple quick ``du -sh'' comands on my nix box, I come up with a combined size of under 5 megs for
So what kind of weird hallucinagens have you been taking today? It looks an awful lot to me like the core operating system size differences are quite exponentially different, in favour of Linux being the more compact and less bloated.
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Mark Waterous (mark@projectlinux.org)
Posted by Synsthe:
i s you'll notice there's already gif 468x60 ad banners displayed there.
Where's the news? If you go to http://www.networksolutions.com/cgi-bin/whois/who
Albeit they are merely ads for linking to another part of NSI's site, the fact that they were/are there should have been enough advance warning for anybody with multiple brain cells and synapse function to figure out that they would eventually run full fledged ad campaigns.
The problem being, no matter where they stick the ads, you can't stop them; they're not inserting the ads into the actual whois database, they're putting them on the pages and what not that display and format pieces of information from that database. So they very well could even put text ads into whois replies if they wanted to.
Ads are everywhere. You get them in snail mail constantly just like you get them through email (though notice how nobody goes and tracks down the postal company that sent it to get the sender shut down?), you see them on tv (they fit shows in between them on occasion), you get them in magazines, in the phone book, in your newspaper, you get them driving down the highway.
This particular case is not NSI being evil (though trust me, I don't like them one bit), just them jumping on the bandwagon with everybody else.
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Mark Waterous (mark@projectlinux.org)
Posted by Synsthe:
Of course it's "contracting". There is no barrier to entry for anybody on the web, for personal sites, or business. It's the easiest place to put something up about yourself or your "business".
With tools like FrontPage floating around too, it gets even easier to put something up that's got the quality level of a cow's paddock.
So the sites that are frequented the most are going to be the ones with good content, good interfaces etc. Those sites are usually (usually) run by the big companies. Therefore it only makes sense that the flows of traffic would bend towards that area of the web.
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Mark Waterous (mark@projectlinux.org)
Posted by Synsthe:
That's just silly, not everything has to be GPL to be good. You're living in a world where you just don't want to pay for anything, that's all. Get over it.
Money makes the world go around, and it's not going away anytime soon. GPL and open source are not going to make it go away. Linux (and I'm not saying this is a good thing, but it's a true thing) needs more commercial support to make an even bigger path for itself in the long run, and such developments as this could be very, very good for that.
If you don't want to use it, nobody is forcing you into it. When you're left behind playing your psx games and everybody else is out there making the big bucks working on the platform they like best, we'll try and remember you. =)
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Mark Waterous (mark@projectlinux.org)
Posted by Nr9:
says it in the topic
they should stop using mandarin and use what most people speak instead of some wa shieng shit.
Posted by Synsthe:
Since when is what I said giving up? It's called accepting facts. If you get yourself in an uproar over this, you're taking the issue much too seriously.
It's nothing new. So now they have a tool to look through your wall or whatever. Big deal? Before if they needed to, they could kick down your door and look directly at you. The only difference is now that you may live out your days never knowing who was peaking through the walls.
--
Mark Waterous (mark@projectlinux.org)
Posted by Synsthe:
There is no such thing as true privacy anyways, so if you're worried about this, I've got news for you: You're wasting your time.
Look back through slashdot history alone and read all the articles on it. Privacy is a relative term - sure, you can take a shower without being seen (hopefully), and sometimes you can get away with talking on the phone without being heard in the next room. But all the security/government/yadda yadda agencies out there can subvert that privacy anytime they wish if they wanted to.
So why worry?
It's just another tool the cops can use to hunt out the bad guys and make "the world a better place".
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Mark Waterous (mark@projectlinux.org)
Posted by Synsthe:
*sigh* Silly troll.
Linux couldn't handle it? It had nothing to do with Linux. Their bandwidth was dead. The linux box crashed a whole once due to not being allocated proper memory for such a task.
Meanwhile windows2000test.com has been down as much as linuxppc up, and up as much as linuxppc was down.
So I think if you believe this declares Windows the winner, that you need to get your eyes checked. Either that, or it means the frontal lobotomy was succesful.
Neither won. It wasn't a contest to see which would last longest. It was a contest to see if you could crack into the box. Since windows has been down, nobody has been able to crack it. Since immature folks (yourself included?) couldn't handle the contest at linuxppc, it has been taken to a new playing ground.
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Mark Waterous (mark@projectlinux.org)
Posted by Synsthe:
What ever happened to freedom of religion? One of the points listed is that "evolution isn't in any of the biblical teachings". So what?
I am not Christian, as are many others. I myself am Pagan. There are also buddhists, atheists, you name it, they're out there. The Bible does _not_ rule our lives. It should not be a factor whatsoever in this.
It's a joke. We need people in our education system that can teach these kids without such arrogant bias. They should be given the right and the ability to make their own decision, from an educated stand point, not have it thrust upon them because some fanaticals believe there is only one true way, and that it's their way.
--
Mark Waterous (mark@projectlinux.org)
Posted by Robert M:
By releasing the domino server for linux, what lotus is trying to doing is reduce the cost of setting up a notes based network in a small-to-medium sized office.
By using linux as the base platform for the server, the office still gets the functionality of the domino server but also the added bonus of a proxy server, DNS, firewall and all the other networking functions in linux what are provided for free. This for simply the cost of the domino server (what they would have needed to purchased anyway) and a copy of linux.
btw-
i have been told by my sources, that lotus does infact plan to release a version of the notes client in the near future.
Posted by Justin:
:)
both are fruits
Posted by Synsthe:
;-)
this will be the downfall of linux.
You're kidding right? Do you know _anybody_ who actually reads the MS Windows changelog when upgrading from 95 tp 98, or 9x to NT, etc? Does MS even provide changelogs?
This is indicative of nothing more than the simple fact that your kind (trolls and pranksters) are alive and well on the internet, and aren't showing any signs of going away.
Please, quit your job at Microsoft and get real work. Spreading FUD only serves to get a big red "troll" stamped on your forehead.
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Mark Waterous (mark@projectlinux.org)
Posted by Nr9:
heh 100 Mbps is pretty slow
Posted by NJViking:
Anyone see that series? It's pretty cool!
Posted by Justin:
:) and yes, i do live on the east coast, btw.
bedtime = 3am-noon
waketime = noon-7pm
i heard about this an hour ago and gave the mirrors time to sync. thanks for the kind words, though
Posted by Nr9:
bwhahahhaha
NT has MDI applications
ahahhahahhaah
MDI microsoft invented MDI
i hate MDI. don't u hate it when ure running a word processor and typing in two documents and can't have a web page on top of the bottom document and typing from the top document?
Posted by Justin:
please enlighten me. i am curious to know the difference.
Posted by Justin:
perhaps you mean CSE (canadian NSA)? i know there were a few of those registered for the conference. there also was a guy in the fifth or sixth row (i sat in the third row and politely declined the poking and prodding for me to take a bow when the slashdot joke came up) who had a white navy-looking uniform...maybe he was a CSE guy?
Posted by Justin:
perhaps the term "enterprise credibility" was misleading. i didn't mean using it in an enterprise-critical application, but rather giving people who make purchasing and other decisions in large businesses a good impression of linux.
Posted by Mike@ABC:
I knew that I was really getting into the geek stuff when I read User Friendly and laughed, because I understood some obscure BeOS reference. The strip is a great barometer of this burgeoning "geek culture" that everyone is talking about, and the Dust Puppy is the greatest face you could ever put on that culture.
Posted by Nr9:
it doesn't need to waste a lot of cycles doing it.. just used the same as normal L2 cache
Posted by Nr9:
actually shared cache over a fast bus(same die) is very fast
Posted by Nr9:
this is a 64 bit implementation of the powerpc chip. power3 and power4 are followups to the PowerPC 620 design(power3 was originally called PowerPC 630). it is simliar in design but i'm not suggesting binary compatiblity with 32 bit powerpc chips like the G4