the NSA is funneling money to Compaq on this project.
Even if they're not, this is scary. I don't want anyone to know what I do every second of my life.
What if these things become mandatory? You could be persecuted and finally prosecuted simply because you met or just passed on the street someone who committed a crime.
eg.
Federal Prosecutor(FP):"Did you or did you not pass Timothy McVeigh on Main Street in Buttville Idaho while walking north on the west side of the street at 3:44PM on 04/01/1995?"
Me:"No, I don't think so."
FP:"AHA! Let the record show that the defendant DID walk past Timothy McVeigh on the date in question and he even said 'excuse me' after he stepped on his shoe. This was their secret code for 'everything is fine, now go blow up the damned building!' This defendant was the mastermind of the conspiracy which killed 168 people including little babies."
This is another way to open pandora's box of privacy elimination!
As if eschelon isn't bad enough. Not only do they want to be able to track any one of us, they want to be able to track ALL of us.
I've posted this link before, but it's as relevant as ever, and judging by my web logs most people haven't seen it yet. If you were hoping for something a little more substantial than this "feature", then I can't help you, but if you were looking for something a lot more substantial, then refer to my essay Philosophies of Free Software and Intellectual Property; seventy kilobytes of HTML in which I lovingly beat the subject to death with a heavy, blunt object. Enjoy.
>>The optic-fibre cable is long enough to circle the Earth and will be laid by robotic submarines. The project will cost $1.6 billion and aims to be completed in 2002.
Well, but using this so called "freedom to incorporate the code into proprietary products" takes away exactly all freedom the GPL tries to preserve. It's a one time freedom, usable only by the one person or company creating a proprietary product. Once this is done, all freedom will evaporate. So comparing BSD and GPL it seems obious to me that only GPL can/guarantee/ that freedom will stay.
You can do basicly the same thing by slapping 4+ G100 Multimonitor cards in any pc. I currently have clients with 16 Flat panel off of 1 Wintel box.( And yes the do Have more money than brains)
So here I am, walking down the street. I see a woman in a green dress: Fact #1: That woman is wearing a green dress. Fact #2: That woman is not wearing a blue dress. Fact #3: That woman is not wearing a red dress. Fact #4: That woman is not wearing a purple dress.... Fact #N: That being wearing the green dress is a woman. Fact #N+1: That being not wearing the blue dress is a woman. Fact #N+2: That being not wearing the red dress is a woman.... There is no way to keep track of EVERY fact. (This post is only part facetious, I really would like to know what "every fact" is supposed to mean) --- Put Hemos through English 101!
forget mailing resumes... nothing beats networking
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And I don't mean in the geek sense. People are simply more likely to hire people they know, or that their friend or colleague knows. In fact, most companies pay employees a pretty decent referral bonus.
Yeah, that would be great. But SoftImage and Maya aren't SGI's properties, and therefore the companies have to be nice and port it to Linux. Houdini will be ported to Linux, probably other companies will follow. Incertainty is the bottleneck for a lot of companies. Porting is serious business, but seeing hard- and software going in Linux's direction makes companies believe they invest in something that will last for the long term. After all, companies are commercial and will do things that they can benefit of.
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Posted by Mary CW:
I completely agree with the previous comment: use your people networks to get jobs. Don't waste your time sending in resumes to online job postings. Better, post your resume (with the right key words) and let them come to you.
Here in Silicon Valley, where you think the companies would have a clue -- none of my friends (or myself) who has responded to an online job listing has ever gotten any response other than (sometimes) an email form letter. I sent in applications to Cisco, HP, 3COM and didn't get so much as an email back. Companies don't realize that it actually pisses people off worse, to have online job listings that imply responsiveness, only to discover you've totally wasted your time trying to follow their stupid mandated application process. I found my new job through personal connections, and I'll never waste my time applying online again unless I already have an "in."
Subject: "Net Rage" as spin control Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 13:51:33 -0400 From: David Mertz Reply-To: mertz@gnosis.cx To: sales@mindcraft.com, info@mindcraft.com
It really is disappointing how craven Mindcraft has been in its own defense. I followed some of the press about Mindcraft's initial rather biased "benchmark" of WinNT and Linux, including the various retests and the like. "Lies, Damn Lies, and Benchmarks" -- as they say.
At a minimum, it seems clear to any dispassioned observer that Mindcraft took money from Microsoft for the purpose of producing results that case Microsoft in a good light. Lots of selection bias went into choosing a test environement; and lots of sneaky tuning (or de-tuning) was done on compared machines to produce the desired results. Further, Mindcraft was not very upfront about what was going on, especially initially. It looks a lot like the kind of polls that politicians and political interest groups use to "prove" their desired conclusions.
All that said, I never actually bothered to do anything besides read about the ongoing "benchmarks", and maybe mention the issue to a few acquaintances. But then I happened to encounter the newest agit-prop, which seems far more deceptive even than all the initial tests were. Essentially, Mindcraft now seems intent on slandering the Linux community (of which I am not really a member, beyond very peripherally, as it happens).
By posting a prominent link on its home page titled "Net Rage", Mindcraft is essentially trying to mischaracterize the whole community of Linux users/developers by implicitly claiming they are all ill-spoken spewers of explitives, and cannot think or argue clearly. I also think you have probably directly misappropriated the letters of those folks you posted. It is hardly clear that an email grants publication permission.
In any event, I am quite certain that you received many thousands of polite, curteous rebuts to your published benchmarks. Many of these almost certainly contained detailed and well-thought technical critiques. Rather than make any of those available, you have picked though the whole batch to find the half-dozen respondents who got carried away and swore. This is extremely dishonest; and is insulting to reasoned discourse.
I also believe that the newest propoganda, like the intitial benchmarks, are going to come back to bite Mindcraft. Deception is a lot harder to maintain than honesty... and yet again, this will not be hard for most people to discern.
Some time ago, when the online service Prodigy was trendy, I was one of the moderators of some of the Advanced Dungeons and Dragons groups. I bring this up because occasionally one of those concerned, well-meaning folks who think all role playing games are the work of Satan would post a message to that effect, collect the one or two hundred "Die you fskng Nazi! Choatic Evil ROOOOLLLLLZZZ!!!" responses, then post them on the religious boards as evidence that role-playing games are the work of Satan.
Whether the tests were fair, and in fact the relative worth of NT vs. Linux is irrelevant for the purposes of this discussion. The point, as many people have pointed out, is that people will say stupid, childish things. There is no way to stop them, and people who disagree will use said stupid, childish things to their advantage.
Now that I'm through pointing out the obvious, what about starting a "You think THAT'S bad, look at what we get" page? Well, there is the point that it would be stooping to the same level. Is that a bad thing? Perhaps if you posted a website of the hate email, and invited people to contribute the trash that they get on any subject. Impartially mocking all these lamers may do a better job of discrediting them than letting this devolve into yet another OS religious jihad.
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Posted by 2B||!2B:
The professor for a college writing course I took was a consultant for Novell, sorting out which people they should interview. The number one thing he looked for: proper format of the resume. Novell figured anyone who wasn't smart enough to find out what the expectations were before doing something wasn't worth hiring (not a bad point). So he first threw out any resumes on unusual paper, too many pages, etc. Then he checked for the needed sections of the resume (too many people sent incomplete info). Lastly, he scanned the resumes for "power words" which applied to the job (C, Java, Netware, etc.). Thus a non-computer user had full control over who did and didn't get interviewed. And every company has different requirements for resumes, which, in the case of a large company, are very clearly defined.
How can we get around this? Easy answer: find out what's expected! The best way would be to hire someone who reviews resumes to help write one for us. If I were to apply to work at Novell (I'm not going to) I would pay that professor to write my resume.
It seems to me that Mindcraft posting the rantings of 10 people is just childish as the people who originally sent them the messages. I realize they probably got 1000 more just like them, but that isn't even.01% of the linux community, and Mindcraft is just trying to characterize the entire linux community as a bunch of 13 year olds who should wash their mouths out. The only difference is they are "talking shit" in a public forum, and trying to characterize all Linux users in this forum, and characterizing these users to the whole world. The difference is they are "talking shit" behind our backs.
Firstly, Linux still has a long way to go in certain areas before it comes anywhere near commercial unices. For example, disk volume management, transaction filesystems and a half-decent NFS implementation.
Secondly, the PA8500 will not be the last of the PA-RISC line. HP can see Merced going down the tubes, and there's still plenty of legroom left in the PARISC design.
If you are a geek in need of a geek, don't use HR as the gatekeeper.
BTW, clearly you are one of the moron crowd: "do not have a PostScript printer (probably regular HP instead)". Bwahahahahaha --- Put Hemos through English 101!
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Posted by Dahakbert:
This is great for college students, but if you're working, I highly suggest putting your resume up, but WITHOUT any phone numbers. Most recruiters I've dealt with have been annoying as hell, calling me at work, telling the front desk that they are "returning my call" even though I've never talked to them, so they will be passed through. But since I revised my resume, put only my home address and NO phone numbers, only an e-mail address for contact, it is much more managable. Here are a few tips I would suggest for people who want to put their resume's up and NOT be annoyed:
1) don't put any phone numbers on there. Only e-mail addresses. That way, you can easily return messages and have it take up less time
2) if they call you at work, and you never put up a work phone number, DO NOT TALK TO THEM. Here's what they did, they looked at your resume, got your current employment's number from directory service, and are xcontacting you a way you did not ask for. This should always be highly discouraged.
3) if the recruiter tells you they heard about you from someone who highly recommended you, 9.9 times out of 10, they are lying. Recruiters usually say things like this to make you believe that they are really interested in you... if you ask who refered you and they refuse to tell you, guess what...?
4) do NOT answer any questions about your current business, how many employees are working there, what they do, etc. Tell them if they are that interested in your company, you can refer them to a sales person, tell them you do not want to answer too many questions about your business which can get you introuble for non-disclosure. Trust me, they have no qualms about being unnecessarily nosy. Most likely, they are probing you for info so they can decide to target other employees at the company who you work with for recruitment as well.
5) if they want a resume submitted to them by fax or mail, that is ok... however, tell them you want to know who they are recruiting for if you give them that. If they refuse, they are wasting your time. The best recruiters I've dealt with told me whom they are recuiting for and what the job is within one or two e-mails to them.
6) Always have an enemy or a wate-of-time's e-mail address or contact information infront of you, so if you get a recruiter who just annoys the hell out of you, you can say, "I am not at all interested, but let me give you the contact information for someone who might be." In one case, I explained to someone I wasn't interested, and they proceeded to tell me how I really was and I just didn't know it, so I explained it to them a little more forcefully, and highly suggested they contact the career center at my previous university. I knew this would be a waste of time for them, so...:)
All in all, from my experience I still think the best way to find your dream jobn is the old fashioned way --- either know someone, or send in a resume to a company directly using newspaper adds or with a job fair. Most of the time, recruiters are going to be a waste of your time and energy.
Looking for qualified workers is the hardest task facing companies in the high-tech field. Unfortunately, as a manager, I can only spend a short amount of time going through resumes because most of my time is spent doing my job. That is why we use recruiters. And most recruiters suck. I have received resumes that have had so many spelling mistakes and grammatical errors that I have posted them on the office bulletin board for everyone to laugh at. And these have come via a recruiter. The best source for finding new employees is internally. Train people up to fill the more demanding positions. Then use word-of-mouth referrals, at least that way you can be fairly sure that the potential new hire isn't psycho.
When I have applied for jobs I tend to try and fax my resume. It may cut down on the number of places I can apply to, but at least I know that the person can read it. In the Bay area check out the listfoundation.org web for really good leads ( I found a couple of jobs from it when I lived in California). Is there an equivalent to it in New York City?
The best companies to work for are the ones that have good internal HR departments, they probably also pay on time and don't drop the ball when it come to insurance, 401K etc.
Since I don't have Word or even WP running on my Linux machine, I coded up my resume straight in PostScript. I sent it out to people saying "This file is suitable to be sent directly to most laser printers..."
Every single response back to me said things like "Can't open your file" (don't then, just send it to the printer) or "Please submit in Word format" (for a Unix job?).
I knew there would be some idiots; I actually counted on it as a filter for people I wouldn't want to work for. What I didn't count on was that EVERY SINGLE HIRING PERSON OUT THERE is a moron. --- Put Hemos through English 101!
I get the impression that HP, like SGI, is using Linux as their IA-32 Unix. I also noticed that their Linux boxes graphics have hardware 3-D support for OpenGL. It sounds interesting.
If Phoenix is doing what I think their doing, which will be the easiet to do, and that being adding a boot logo...er, ad when you boot up. Wouldn't it take one person, to hack out how it uploads the ads to the chip and then everyone will be having their own boot logos?
I'm also assuming that they will only write Windows software, and I doubt it will get supported in Linux. So I'm going to guess that we will all be having custom boot logos and not having to use a framebuffer console to do so.
If that's the case, then I applaud Phoenix for a "brilliant" idea.
> Correct me if I'm mistaken here, but it seems to me that most of the innovations in the computer industry in the last 30 years > took place on UNIX machines. The Internet, the WWW, the GUI, the mouse, the workstation, the list goes on and on. I don't > think Microsoft could continue to "innovate" unless there was a UNIX (or even an Apple) to steal from
Some of that got done on Unix, but a lot of it was done on other OSes and then ported to Unix. One of the big advantages of Unix was its ability to absorb nearly any valuable innovation and weld it together with all the stuff it already had, creating a more powerful system than whichever from-scratch newbie had the useful feature that was being cloned.
And the thing that made Unix able to do this was its nearly open-source model. Though the core code WAS quasi-proprietary, Bell Labs' had leaked it big-time - shipping source to universities around the world. Up to about when the System V rewrite (IMHO mainly a move to thrash the code base so the ownership would no longer be vulnerable to legal attack) the common model for porting was: - Port your bootleg source to the new platform. - Call up Bell Labs and buy a license. (Terms were reasonable and they held no grudge.) - Sell your product, with Unix on it.
This same relatively free availability of source made it easy to add or port anything you needed into the kernel - and created a large community of authors and porters.
Which makes it funny to see Linux folk calling Microsoft "The Borg". Oughta call 'em "Borg, the new generation." B-)
(Does that make Linux "Borg, the Gnu Generation?")
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Posted by Lord Kano-The Gangster Of Love:
the NSA is funneling money to Compaq on this project.
Even if they're not, this is scary. I don't want anyone to know what I do every second of my life.
What if these things become mandatory? You could be persecuted and finally prosecuted simply because you met or just passed on the street someone who committed a crime.
eg.
Federal Prosecutor(FP):"Did you or did you not pass Timothy McVeigh on Main Street in Buttville Idaho while walking north on the west side of the street at 3:44PM on 04/01/1995?"
Me:"No, I don't think so."
FP:"AHA! Let the record show that the defendant DID walk past Timothy McVeigh on the date in question and he even said 'excuse me' after he stepped on his shoe. This was their secret code for 'everything is fine, now go blow up the damned building!' This defendant was the mastermind of the conspiracy which killed 168 people including little babies."
This is another way to open pandora's box of privacy elimination!
As if eschelon isn't bad enough. Not only do they want to be able to track any one of us, they want to be able to track ALL of us.
LK
Posted by The Famous Brett Watson:
I've posted this link before, but it's as relevant as ever, and judging by my web logs most people haven't seen it yet. If you were hoping for something a little more substantial than this "feature", then I can't help you, but if you were looking for something a lot more substantial, then refer to my essay Philosophies of Free Software and Intellectual Property ; seventy kilobytes of HTML in which I lovingly beat the subject to death with a heavy, blunt object. Enjoy.
Posted by Lord Kano-The Gangster Of Love:
Taco, check again dude, it's 1.6 billion, not 1.2
>>The optic-fibre cable is long enough to circle the Earth and will be laid by robotic submarines. The project will cost $1.6 billion and aims to be completed in
2002.
LK
Posted by FascDot Killed My Previous Use:
Is it just me or has the Mozilla project been moving more quickly since jwz left?
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Posted by konrad72:
/guarantee/ that freedom will stay.
Well, but using this so called "freedom to incorporate the code into proprietary products" takes away exactly all freedom the GPL tries to preserve. It's a one time freedom, usable only by the one person or company creating a proprietary product. Once this is done, all freedom will evaporate. So comparing BSD and GPL it seems obious to me that only GPL can
Posted by CanSmegWillSmeg:
You can do basicly the same thing by slapping 4+ G100 Multimonitor cards in any pc. I currently have clients with 16 Flat panel off of 1 Wintel box.( And yes the do Have more money than brains)
L8r Days & Waves
Posted by FascDot Killed My Previous Use:
... Fact #N: That being wearing the green dress is a woman. Fact #N+1: That being not wearing the blue dress is a woman. Fact #N+2: That being not wearing the red dress is a woman. ... There is no way to keep track of EVERY fact. (This post is only part facetious, I really would like to know what "every fact" is supposed to mean)
So here I am, walking down the street. I see a woman in a green dress: Fact #1: That woman is wearing a green dress. Fact #2: That woman is not wearing a blue dress. Fact #3: That woman is not wearing a red dress. Fact #4: That woman is not wearing a purple dress.
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Posted by fling93:
And I don't mean in the geek sense. People are simply more likely to hire people they know, or that their friend or colleague knows. In fact, most companies pay employees a pretty decent referral bonus.
Posted by King Kludge:
The Troll Tech C++ based QT GUI toolkit, available for Linux, Win32, and used as the backbone of KDE. Check the home page at
http://www.troll.no/
Ciao.
Posted by transgression2:
Why the hell don't they have a REAL X10 clock that you can set the time through?
Limitations in the X10 protocol I'm sure...
Sucks.
Wouldn't mind scheduling my viper alarmed truck starting either...
-Will
Posted by sUbZ3r0:
Yeah, that would be great. But SoftImage and Maya aren't SGI's properties, and therefore the companies have to be nice and port it to Linux. Houdini will be ported to Linux, probably other companies will follow. Incertainty is the bottleneck for a lot of companies. Porting is serious business, but seeing hard- and software going in Linux's direction makes companies believe they invest in something that will last for the long term. After all, companies are commercial and will do things that they can benefit of.
Posted by Mary CW:
I completely agree with the previous comment: use your people networks to get jobs. Don't waste your time sending in resumes to online job postings. Better, post your resume (with the right key words) and let them come to you.
Here in Silicon Valley, where you think the companies would have a clue -- none of my friends (or myself) who has responded to an online job listing has ever gotten any response other than (sometimes) an email form letter. I sent in applications to Cisco, HP, 3COM and didn't get so much as an email back. Companies don't realize that it actually pisses people off worse, to have online job listings that imply responsiveness, only to discover you've totally wasted your time trying to follow their stupid mandated application process. I found my new job through personal connections, and I'll never waste my time applying online again unless I already have an "in."
Posted by Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters:
Subject: "Net Rage" as spin control
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 13:51:33 -0400
From: David Mertz
Reply-To: mertz@gnosis.cx
To: sales@mindcraft.com, info@mindcraft.com
It really is disappointing how craven Mindcraft has been in its own
defense. I followed some of the press about Mindcraft's initial rather
biased "benchmark" of WinNT and Linux, including the various retests and
the like. "Lies, Damn Lies, and Benchmarks" -- as they say.
At a minimum, it seems clear to any dispassioned observer that Mindcraft
took money from Microsoft for the purpose of producing results that case
Microsoft in a good light. Lots of selection bias went into choosing a
test environement; and lots of sneaky tuning (or de-tuning) was done on
compared machines to produce the desired results. Further, Mindcraft
was not very upfront about what was going on, especially initially. It
looks a lot like the kind of polls that politicians and political
interest groups use to "prove" their desired conclusions.
All that said, I never actually bothered to do anything besides read
about the ongoing "benchmarks", and maybe mention the issue to a few
acquaintances. But then I happened to encounter the newest agit-prop,
which seems far more deceptive even than all the initial tests were.
Essentially, Mindcraft now seems intent on slandering the Linux
community (of which I am not really a member, beyond very peripherally,
as it happens).
By posting a prominent link on its home page titled "Net Rage",
Mindcraft is essentially trying to mischaracterize the whole community
of Linux users/developers by implicitly claiming they are all ill-spoken
spewers of explitives, and cannot think or argue clearly. I also think
you have probably directly misappropriated the letters of those folks
you posted. It is hardly clear that an email grants publication
permission.
In any event, I am quite certain that you received many thousands of
polite, curteous rebuts to your published benchmarks. Many of these
almost certainly contained detailed and well-thought technical
critiques. Rather than make any of those available, you have picked
though the whole batch to find the half-dozen respondents who got
carried away and swore. This is extremely dishonest; and is insulting
to reasoned discourse.
I also believe that the newest propoganda, like the intitial benchmarks,
are going to come back to bite Mindcraft. Deception is a lot harder to
maintain than honesty... and yet again, this will not be hard for most
people to discern.
Yours, Lulu...
Posted by generic kewl tech reference:
Some time ago, when the online service Prodigy was trendy, I was one of the moderators of some of the Advanced Dungeons and Dragons groups. I bring this up because occasionally one of those concerned, well-meaning folks who think all role playing games are the work of Satan would post a message to that effect, collect the one or two hundred "Die you fskng Nazi! Choatic Evil ROOOOLLLLLZZZ!!!" responses, then post them on the religious boards as evidence that role-playing games are the work of Satan.
Whether the tests were fair, and in fact the relative worth of NT vs. Linux is irrelevant for the purposes of this discussion. The point, as many people have pointed out, is that people will say stupid, childish things. There is no way to stop them, and people who disagree will use said stupid, childish things to their advantage.
Now that I'm through pointing out the obvious, what about starting a "You think THAT'S bad, look at what we get" page? Well, there is the point that it would be stooping to the same level. Is that a bad thing? Perhaps if you posted a website of the hate email, and invited people to contribute the trash that they get on any subject. Impartially mocking all these lamers may do a better job of discrediting them than letting this devolve into yet another OS religious jihad.
The professor for a college writing course I took was a consultant for Novell, sorting out which people they should interview. The number one thing he looked for: proper format of the resume. Novell figured anyone who wasn't smart enough to find out what the expectations were before doing something wasn't worth hiring (not a bad point). So he first threw out any resumes on unusual paper, too many pages, etc. Then he checked for the needed sections of the resume (too many people sent incomplete info). Lastly, he scanned the resumes for "power words" which applied to the job (C, Java, Netware, etc.). Thus a non-computer user had full control over who did and didn't get interviewed. And every company has different requirements for resumes, which, in the case of a large company, are very clearly defined.
How can we get around this? Easy answer: find out what's expected! The best way would be to hire someone who reviews resumes to help write one for us. If I were to apply to work at Novell (I'm not going to) I would pay that professor to write my resume.
Posted by _DogShu_:
.01% of the linux community, and Mindcraft is just trying to characterize the entire linux community as a bunch of 13 year olds who should wash their mouths out.
It seems to me that Mindcraft posting the rantings of 10 people is just childish as the people who originally sent them the messages.
I realize they probably got 1000 more just like them, but that isn't even
The only difference is they are "talking shit" in a public forum, and trying to characterize all Linux users in this forum, and characterizing these users to the whole world. The difference is they are "talking shit" behind our backs.
Posted by skaffster:
Firstly, Linux still has a long way to go in certain areas before it comes anywhere near commercial unices. For example, disk volume management, transaction filesystems and a half-decent NFS implementation.
Secondly, the PA8500 will not be the last of the PA-RISC line. HP can see Merced going down the tubes, and there's still plenty of legroom left in the PARISC design.
Posted by FascDot Killed My Previous Use:
If you are a geek in need of a geek, don't use HR as the gatekeeper.
BTW, clearly you are one of the moron crowd: "do not have a PostScript printer (probably regular HP instead)". Bwahahahahaha
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Posted by Dahakbert:
... :)
This is great for college students, but if you're working, I highly suggest putting your resume up, but WITHOUT any phone numbers. Most recruiters I've dealt with have been annoying as hell, calling me at work, telling the front desk that they are "returning my call" even though I've never talked to them, so they will be passed through. But since I revised my resume, put only my home address and NO phone numbers, only an e-mail address for contact, it is much more managable. Here are a few tips I would suggest for people who want to put their resume's up and NOT be annoyed:
1) don't put any phone numbers on there. Only e-mail addresses. That way, you can easily return messages and have it take up less time
2) if they call you at work, and you never put up a work phone number, DO NOT TALK TO THEM. Here's what they did, they looked at your resume, got your current employment's number from directory service, and are xcontacting you a way you did not ask for. This should always be highly discouraged.
3) if the recruiter tells you they heard about you from someone who highly recommended you, 9.9 times out of 10, they are lying. Recruiters usually say things like this to make you believe that they are really interested in you... if you ask who refered you and they refuse to tell you, guess what...?
4) do NOT answer any questions about your current business, how many employees are working there, what they do, etc. Tell them if they are that interested in your company, you can refer them to a sales person, tell them you do not want to answer too many questions about your business which can get you introuble for non-disclosure. Trust me, they have no qualms about being unnecessarily nosy. Most likely, they are probing you for info so they can decide to target other employees at the company who you work with for recruitment as well.
5) if they want a resume submitted to them by fax or mail, that is ok... however, tell them you want to know who they are recruiting for if you give them that. If they refuse, they are wasting your time. The best recruiters I've dealt with told me whom they are recuiting for and what the job is within one or two e-mails to them.
6) Always have an enemy or a wate-of-time's e-mail address or contact information infront of you, so if you get a recruiter who just annoys the hell out of you, you can say, "I am not at all interested, but let me give you the contact information for someone who might be." In one case, I explained to someone I wasn't interested, and they proceeded to tell me how I really was and I just didn't know it, so I explained it to them a little more forcefully, and highly suggested they contact the career center at my previous university. I knew this would be a waste of time for them, so
All in all, from my experience I still think the best way to find your dream jobn is the old fashioned way --- either know someone, or send in a resume to a company directly using newspaper adds or with a job fair. Most of the time, recruiters are going to be a waste of your time and energy.
-- Dahakbert
Posted by badacid:
Looking for qualified workers is the hardest task facing companies in the high-tech field. Unfortunately, as a manager, I can only spend a short amount of time going through resumes because most of my time is spent doing my job. That is why we use recruiters. And most recruiters suck. I have received resumes that have had so many spelling mistakes and grammatical errors that I have posted them on the office bulletin board for everyone to laugh at. And these have come via a recruiter. The best source for finding new employees is internally. Train people up to fill the more demanding positions. Then use word-of-mouth referrals, at least that way you can be fairly sure that the potential new hire isn't psycho.
When I have applied for jobs I tend to try and fax my resume. It may cut down on the number of places I can apply to, but at least I know that the person can read it. In the Bay area check out the listfoundation.org web for really good leads ( I found a couple of jobs from it when I lived in California). Is there an equivalent to it in New York City?
The best companies to work for are the ones that have good internal HR departments, they probably also pay on time and don't drop the ball when it come to insurance, 401K etc.
Posted by FascDot Killed My Previous Use:
Since I don't have Word or even WP running on my Linux machine, I coded up my resume straight in PostScript. I sent it out to people saying "This file is suitable to be sent directly to most laser printers..."
Every single response back to me said things like "Can't open your file" (don't then, just send it to the printer) or "Please submit in Word format" (for a Unix job?).
I knew there would be some idiots; I actually counted on it as a filter for people I wouldn't want to work for. What I didn't count on was that EVERY SINGLE HIRING PERSON OUT THERE is a moron.
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Put Hemos through English 101!
Posted by Buffy the Overflow Slayer:
I get the impression that HP, like SGI, is using Linux as their IA-32 Unix. I also noticed that their Linux boxes graphics have hardware 3-D support for OpenGL. It sounds interesting.
-buffy
Posted by Kilbert:
If Phoenix is doing what I think their doing, which will be the easiet to do, and that being adding a boot logo...er, ad when you boot up. Wouldn't it take one person, to hack out how it uploads the ads to the chip and then everyone will be having their own boot logos?
I'm also assuming that they will only write Windows software, and I doubt it will get supported in Linux. So I'm going to guess that we will all be having custom boot logos and not having to use a framebuffer console to do so.
If that's the case, then I applaud Phoenix for a "brilliant" idea.
later,
Kilbert
Posted by Ungrounded Lightning Rod:
> Correct me if I'm mistaken here, but it seems to me that most of the innovations in the computer industry in the last 30 years
> took place on UNIX machines. The Internet, the WWW, the GUI, the mouse, the workstation, the list goes on and on. I don't
> think Microsoft could continue to "innovate" unless there was a UNIX (or even an Apple) to steal from
Some of that got done on Unix, but a lot of it was done on other OSes and then ported to Unix. One of the big advantages of Unix was its ability to absorb nearly any valuable innovation and weld it together with all the stuff it already had, creating a more powerful system than whichever from-scratch newbie had the useful feature that was being cloned.
And the thing that made Unix able to do this was its nearly open-source model. Though the core code WAS quasi-proprietary, Bell Labs' had leaked it big-time - shipping source to universities around the world. Up to about when the System V rewrite (IMHO mainly a move to thrash the code base so the ownership would no longer be vulnerable to legal attack) the common model for porting was:
- Port your bootleg source to the new platform.
- Call up Bell Labs and buy a license. (Terms were reasonable and they held no grudge.)
- Sell your product, with Unix on it.
This same relatively free availability of source made it easy to add or port anything you needed into the kernel - and created a large community of authors and porters.
Which makes it funny to see Linux folk calling Microsoft "The Borg". Oughta call 'em "Borg, the new generation." B-)
(Does that make Linux "Borg, the Gnu Generation?")
Posted by Assmodeus:
gee i wish sgi would fund me with an Octane...
assmodeus