According to US patent law, though, "mathematical" "inventions" -do- have special status: that of not being patentable. So, you just say "my patent is for using the following mathematical formulas for the specific purpose of X, on any computing device".
Then, (if you're RSA data labs), you say that you'll sue anyone who uses ANY mathematical formula in ANY context to do the same sort of thing. (RSA claims that their patent gives them rights to ALL PK crypto)
Well, if "...any computing device" is the gist of their patent, then it does give them rights to ALL PK crypto. After all, the human brain is a computing device of one sort, so even if you reduce the process to pencil and paper, the patent still covers it!
If I might butt in here, I would have an ethical problem copying the book in that instance. But suppose someone else in that situation copies the book, then gives me a copy with no restrictions, and the original author comes along, finds me, and asks me to give him the copy back.
I, being such a nice guy, probably would give him the copy back, but there is no ethical problem with not giving it back because I had no agreement with the author, unlike the person who borrowed the book from the author and gave me a copy.
Comercial linux software....
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IF the author of this article is correct about all deriviative software having to GPL'd, which i think he is becuase the GPL states this very clearly, how can there be any comercial software for linux, the libc (glibc) is GPL, kernel is GPL and so is most of the rest of the operating system..... so, based on this license anything that uses glibc (which by the way would include Lokisoft's Civilization: Call To Power), how can there ever be commercial software for linux?
For another comparison...
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WHO DECIDES WHAT'S PRIVATE?
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Posted by PROUD2CARE:
On the one hand you are saying that the parents should have known he was building bombs in the bedroom,on the other you say a minor's computer files are private(AND THE BEDROOM ISN'T?) You can't have it both ways. My 2 yr. old feels she is old enough to make her own decisions a 14 yr. old knows that isn't true. A 14 yr. old thinks they are old enough to make their own decisions, a 30 year old knows that's not true. I say"if the parents paid for it and you live in their house, they have a responsibility to know how it is used!"!PERIOD!
This also applies to scientists and engineers working for large corporations in heavily funded group efforts. They are motivated primarily by the process of discovery because it is fun or challenging, and the corporations funding them are motivated primarily by the need to develop and produce better products, not by the secondary benefits of restricting the use of ideas by competitors.
Much of what you said has some merit, but you must not be familiar with our capitalist system. The one and only way corporations make money is by offering something that their competitors can't, which often means restricting other companies. without IP rights, corporations would have no motivation to spend on R&D when competitors can just grab their ideas for free. The only way they could even turn out new products would to keep all their R&D results completely secret! So much for natural law...
Right now it is common for scientists working for corporations to publish the results of their research, even if it reveals devices which they hope to make money of off. The free exchange of ideas is absolutely vital for scientific developement, and without IP laws in many cases this could not occur.
IP rights for software may be a different matter. I haven't really thought about that- maybe we need different IP laws for that. Like most things, IP laws may work well in some areas and poorly in others. But without IP laws of any sort, many of the corporations that originally developed the products that we're using right now to access slashdot might have had no motivation to do so.
If there were no IP rights, what motivation would companies have to develop new technologies? If not for Ip rights, the only way this could be profitable for them would be to completely conceal their ideas, ala. closed source. Lots of research in various fields is done by scientists working for companies, and yet it is published openly for the scientific community; this works because the scientists can take out patents on their ideas and thus explain how they work, educating others and furthering science, while still keeping their jobs.
Now, I realize that IP rights are abused by large corporations, and used for some things they are not really appropriate. But the notion that somehow everything in nature belongs to humanity is simply naive. In a perfect communist system that'd work, but what about our system now? If we abolished IP a major source of research funding would dissappear.
Until IP's opponents can present some method by which current corporations can continue their funding of published research, and still profit, I will have trouble taking them seriously.
As far as your past experience, I stand corrected. I found it hard to beleive a lerned individual could stray so far off base. But with your reply, you've gone and done it again! You say that I.S.is more expensive. But you don't know this, do you? You dead wrong. A 10 room Invisible Stereo system costs $3990.00 ($399.00 per Room, installed w/volume control) and a 20 transducer Home Theater is $1995,installed. Most In-wall speakers that are worth considering START at $400.00 UNINSTALLED, and any good matched SS speakers including Rear Chan. Dipole/Tripole radiator designs will average $6-800.00 ea. And I hardly EVER use crossovers, the units have such a smooth response that in multible arrays, I can attenuate/accentuate the frequency response by varying the thickness of the Mounting board and just send the Full range signal to them.
Need anymore real facts, or would you prefer to go on making up false ones?
I agree completely, Stars! is the BEST strategy game I ever played. It's complex, demanding, extremely well balanced and runs on a 486 with Win3.11 just fine. The diplomatic tactics I used.... My gil-friend almost dumped me for this game. Hardly more charm then AmiPro for Windows though, if you just look at it.:-)
It runs more or less perfectly (self-contradicting statement) in recent versions of WINE. So just check it out, a free demo version (good enough for a start) is available for free (2 MB??)
When will Stars! SuperNova, the planned sequel, be out? Anyone?
I think you're missing the main problem...
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Posted by TikTac:
The main problem is that with such a distribution of IP addresses, the routers are having to keep more routes in memory. We're not really near running out of numbers, but if we have to assign two (or more) numerically unrelated blocks of IP addresses to a location, we aren't using the addresses efficiently, and the routers are going to bog down more and more with many routes going to the same place.
To summarize: We have a sufficient quantity of IP addresses for the near future. The problem we are encountering is that routers operate more efficiently if the IP addresses are under-utilized. That is why we need IPv6 and it's insane number of IP addresses. If we can assign IP's without regard to efficiency of quantity, we can more easily aggregate routes efficiently, reducing maybe 12 routes into one route to a honkin huge set of IP's (which still would be less than a fraction of a percent of the available set of IP's)
>>Why are the Egyptians asking me to stop pirating >>their trade routes when I hadn't pirated their >>routes for over a hundred turns?
>Another bug I've never seen. Perhaps it's fixed in the Linux version.
They're not asking you to stop pirating. They're asking you to sign a pact pledging that you'll refrain from piracy in the future. Breaking such a pact is an act of war. It damages your reputation, whereas pirating their trade route in the absence of a pact would not. You can see a list of treaties currently in force on the Diplomacy screen.
I also use festival because I found irssi (irc client) had a speech plugin. You could easily write a simple plugin to work with gEdit and do this for you. Festival works real nice with esddsp . Too bad my machine is slow and irssi insists on reading people's hostnames/ip's which makes stuff *slow*.
Your biggest problem is that everything you stated in your reply was either wrong,missguided, or just a obnoxious opinion. Which, of course your entitled to. The RSAT has found it's place in Multi-million dollar homes all the way down to Starter Homes, and out of thousands of customers over 22 years, some who bought thier systems on refferal only without ever hearing it, I can think of only 2, maybe 3 that were dissatisfied. And NONE have requested a refund. Even most High End speakers cannot match that claim.
Re:This is a bout as ridiculous as anything I've s
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I'm sure you'll never know if they work or not because you'll be happy with the thought that money buys quality. Too bad it can't buy more of that intellegence you seem to set such great store in. Those who would condemn without understanding it are worse than idiots. And the Web Site will be updated soon....I've been too busy making money and satisfying customers since it was published in Jan.95.
Um. So? Why should innocent people be punished? I missed something there.
Bookwyrm:
Well, I don't think they should be punished, but clearly they have to be if you want to have IP be meaningful. Hence I conclude IP should not be meaningful.
If you don't punish the innocent, they get to use copyrighted and patented info without restriction because they never agreed to the copyright.
I am just pointing out that you can not fashion an IP system out of agreements and contract, and any IP system has to have a provision to punish the innocent.
Re:I may be wrong but..(Yeah, you are very wrong!)
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Let's take these as they come
"DO NOT series two individual transducers together to obtain a 16 ohm load. The first T/D in the series could receive a disportionate amount of the power before it passes onto the next one in line.
******* The initial surge into ANY type of series circuit will ALWAYS affect the leading device more strongly if both devices are of the same impedence. *******
Because Amplifiers must, as a rule be turned up higher than nomally, it is wisest to design a system that plays comfortably at the lowest possible Impedence level"
******* All this means is that you must pick your amp to meet your "worst case" load. *******
Surely the power is equal between the two T/Ds ( so why would one distort first? )
******* See above......most speakers that do not require much power seldom experience the headroom potential of a amp; or not for very long! The RSAT thrives on headroom, but because of this, what would be a subtle difference in effecient speakers becomes a much more dynamic one @ 100 watts continious power. Anyway, by parralleling before you series, you always create a beefier circuit. Two units in tandem have twice the power handling potential. In a series, they only have thier original power handling cababilities. *******
And who came up with the idea that amplifiers are more stable with a smaller load? Why is there this fixation on the angle of the volume knob?
******* The Web Site was designed for common folk who don't live and breathe Audio. To them, you have to talk at thier level, and use terms they relate to. *******
Perhaps this guy should get a job in a PA company for a bit and _work_ with some amplifiers for a bit:-(
******* I was building PAs for Night Clubs, Arenas, and Bands, and doing Live and Studio mixdowns in 1972. Where were you then, A crib? The RSAT does so many things differently than conventional speakers, someone such as yourself would have to throw out all your old concepts and beleifs to accept what many 1000s have already embraced. Can you still learn/unlearn anything? ********
"DO NOT series two individual transducers together to obtain a 16 ohm load. The first T/D in the series could receive a disportionate amount of the power before it passes onto the next one in line.
Because Amplifiers must, as a rule be turned up higher than nomally, it is wisest to design a system that plays comfortably at the lowest possible Impeadence level"
Surely the power is equal between the two T/Ds ( so why would one distort first? )
...most speakers that do not require much power seldom experience the headroom potential of a amp; or not for very long! The RSAT thrives on headroom, but because of this, what would be a subtle difference in effecient speakers becomes a much more dynamic one @ 100 watts continious power. Anyway, by parralleling before you series, you always create a beefier circuit. Two units in tandem have twice the power handling potential. In a series, they only have thier original power handling cababilities.
And who came up with the idea that amplifiers are more stable with a smaller load? Why is there no mention of damping factors needed to drive these "hifi" devices? Why is there this fixation on the angle of the volume knob?
Perhaps this guy should get a job in a PA company for a bit and _work_ with some amplifiers for a bit:-(
I was building PAs for Night Clubs, Arenas, and Bands, and doing Live and Studio mixdowns in 1972. Where were you then, A crib? The RSAT does so many things differently than conventional speakers, someone such as yourself would have to throw out all your old concepts and beleifs to accept what 1000s have already embraced.
it is very important to keep oil producing nations such as iran subjugated so we can squeeze as much oil out of them as we want. thus, contributing to their technology is a mistake, since it helps them to be independant and strong. so don't export. who cares about the terrorism they inflict- that only kills a few random US civilians and doesn't hurt the bottom line anyhow.
Thanks for the support. But there is very little bleedthrough into the next room; less than any unbaffled In-wall spkr. And Town Homes are a regular type of installation for us. Most have Firewalls so sound transfer is not a problem. As for retrofitting, only a 12" wide x 6" tall hole between the studs is needed, not the "tearing down" of walls. Usually, only people who have heard the RSAT in action say that because they cannot comprehend how a small device can create such a big sound. Until they see the unit itself, they think it must be a HUGE device.
Meditation chamber, eh? Many Flotation tanks use the Rolen Star. Usually, about 8 of them. Nothing else lasts more than a few weeks, due to the saline environment, and Pink Floyd sounds pretty good inside one of those things. Subliminal Tapes take on a whole new effect. And waterbeds? You betchca!
Meditation chamber, eh? Many Flotation tanks use the Rolen Star. Usually, about 8 of them. Nothing else lasts more than a few weeks, and Pink Floyed sounds pretty good inside one of those things.
Thanks for the small vote of confidence. Many is the time I've removed existing In-wall speakers, installed the 'ducers, and refinished the old hole back to the original condition of the wall. And beleive me, more people bite on the idea of our cutting a small hole in a wall and then making it dissappear than settling for a Grill. That is if they know of our product. I'm suprised that there are so many narrow minded people out there in who feel it's neccessary to dis something they really don't have a understanding about. The few that have some audio experience I can forgive, for the whole concept seems just too alien for thier minds to accept. That fact keeps many from enjoying our systems. Too bad. But for anybody to flat out state that such a thing CAN'T sound good, or CAN'T possibly work, and that the appearence of the Web Site has anything to do with the validity of the product, smacks of small minds and ignorance.
For the record, I posted my 'artical' as a response to someone, not as an advertisement. And anyone who has a bone to pick, or a comment to make, good or bad, just call me up for free, the 800 number is on my site. I've spent 22 + years satisfing customers while defending my product from all the 'High End' stores whose business I took away. The harsh comments I've read usually only come from those whose business was lost to Invisible Stereo because they looked down upon the customer, instead of treating him like a Human Being and trying to make them happy instead of poorer. And any who want a raft of refferences, and who are willing to run up thier phone bill, can get them from me. Take your pick...USA, Canada, Britain, Mexico, Austrailia, Denmark, Italy, South Africa, Saudia Arabia, Dealers or Customers, it makes no difference; they all say the same thing, "I didn't belive it until I heard it, and it sounded good enough for me."
>>I do agree with my gov't. however that some things that people in the middle east do are morally wrong and digusting to me.
I think that many things that people IN MY OWN country do are morally wrong and disgust me.
>>*HINT* They know this and are always looking over their shoulder to see if the people approve.
They don't care if people approve unless it's an election year, the American people become progressively stupider with each generation when it comes to politics and technology. We live in a country where Bill Clinton was elected president TWICE. We live in a country where Ted Kennedy gets to sit in judgement of people when thy're accused of sexual harrassment! If they cared about what the people want, they'd legalize medical Marijuana. They don't because the drug companies give heavily to the campaign coffers to keep it illegal.
>>I would like to see the day that EVERY individual has this power.
We'd only have that power *IF* we all used it.
>>I'm sure that some in the US gov't are sorry that the old DARPANET ever took off and grew to the Internet we all know and contribute to today.
Have you ever though that maybe, just maybe they intended to use it to track and monitor us all? But the explosion of people on it made that impossible? (not that I believe this, but I'm just raising the issue) after all there was a suspect in custody for writing the Mellissa virus in less than a week. They used the 'net to track him down.
>>Don't screw it up by helping those that abuse the rights of their own people!!
Oh, and the US government never does that huh? How about barbecuing children inside their homes? How about shooting unarmed women in the face? How about slamming pregnant women into walls stomache first? How about stomping people's pet dogs? How about illegally entrapping people for their political beliefs?
These are all things done by the "three letter" divisions within the US government.
I'd rather be here than anywhere else in the world, but we've got a long way to go.
Slashdot Mirror
Posted by The Masked Miscreant >:):
According to US patent law, though, "mathematical" "inventions" -do- have special status: that of not being patentable. So, you just say "my patent is for using the following mathematical formulas for the specific purpose of X, on any computing device".
Then, (if you're RSA data labs), you say that you'll sue anyone who uses ANY mathematical formula in ANY context to do the same sort of thing. (RSA claims that their patent gives them rights to ALL PK crypto)
Well, if "...any computing device" is the gist of their patent, then it does give them rights to ALL PK crypto. After all, the human brain is a computing device of one sort, so even if you reduce the process to pencil and paper, the patent still covers it!
Posted by hopless case:
If I might butt in here, I would have an ethical problem copying the book in that instance. But suppose someone else in that situation copies the book, then gives me a copy with no restrictions, and the original author comes along, finds me, and asks me to give him the copy back.
I, being such a nice guy, probably would give him the copy back, but there is no ethical problem with not giving it back because I had no agreement with the author, unlike the person who borrowed the book from the author and gave me a copy.
Posted by Raditz:
IF the author of this article is correct about all deriviative software having to GPL'd, which i think he is becuase the GPL states this very clearly, how can there be any comercial software for linux, the libc (glibc) is GPL, kernel is GPL and so is most of the rest of the operating system..... so, based on this license anything that uses glibc (which by the way would include Lokisoft's Civilization: Call To Power), how can there ever be commercial software for linux?
Posted by FascDot Killed My Previous Use:
www.az.com/~drysdam/GPL-as-strategy.html
Posted by !ErrorBookmarkNotDefined:
64? IPv6 gets you 128 bits.
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Posted by PROUD2CARE:
On the one hand you are saying that the parents should have known he was building bombs in the bedroom,on the other you say a minor's computer files are private(AND THE BEDROOM ISN'T?)
You can't have it both ways. My 2 yr. old feels she is old enough to make her own decisions a 14 yr. old knows that isn't true. A 14 yr. old thinks they are old enough to make their own decisions, a 30 year old knows that's not true. I say"if the parents paid for it and you live in their house, they have a responsibility to know how it is used!"!PERIOD!
This also applies to scientists and engineers working for large corporations in heavily funded group efforts. They are motivated primarily by the process of discovery because it is fun or challenging, and the corporations funding them are motivated primarily by the need to develop and produce better products, not by the secondary benefits of restricting the use of ideas by competitors.
Much of what you said has some merit, but you must not be familiar with our capitalist system. The one and only way corporations make money is by offering something that their competitors can't, which often means restricting other companies. without IP rights, corporations would have no motivation to spend on R&D when competitors can just grab their ideas for free. The only way they could even turn out new products would to keep all their R&D results completely secret! So much for natural law...
Right now it is common for scientists working for corporations to publish the results of their research, even if it reveals devices which they hope to make money of off. The free exchange of ideas is absolutely vital for scientific developement, and without IP laws in many cases this could not occur.
IP rights for software may be a different matter. I haven't really thought about that- maybe we need different IP laws for that. Like most things, IP laws may work well in some areas and poorly in others. But without IP laws of any sort, many of the corporations that originally developed the products that we're using right now to access slashdot might have had no motivation to do so.
Posted by The Mongolian Barbecue:
If there were no IP rights, what motivation would companies have to develop new technologies? If not for Ip rights, the only way this could be profitable for them would be to completely conceal their ideas, ala. closed source. Lots of research in various fields is done by scientists working for companies, and yet it is published openly for the scientific community; this works because the scientists can take out patents on their ideas and thus explain how they work, educating others and furthering science, while still keeping their jobs.
Now, I realize that IP rights are abused by large corporations, and used for some things they are not really appropriate. But the notion that somehow everything in nature belongs to humanity is simply naive. In a perfect communist system that'd work, but what about our system now? If we abolished IP a major source of research funding would dissappear.
Until IP's opponents can present some method by which current corporations can continue their funding of published research, and still profit, I will have trouble taking them seriously.
Posted by Invisible1:
As far as your past experience, I stand corrected. I found it hard to beleive a lerned individual could stray so far off base. But with your reply, you've gone and done it again!
You say that I.S.is more expensive.
But you don't know this, do you? You dead wrong. A 10 room Invisible Stereo system costs $3990.00 ($399.00 per Room, installed w/volume control) and a 20 transducer Home Theater is $1995,installed. Most In-wall speakers that are worth considering START at $400.00 UNINSTALLED, and any good matched SS speakers including Rear Chan. Dipole/Tripole radiator designs will average $6-800.00 ea. And I hardly EVER use crossovers, the units have such a smooth response that in multible arrays, I can attenuate/accentuate the frequency response by varying the thickness of the Mounting board and just send the Full range signal to them.
Need anymore real facts, or would you prefer to go on making up false ones?
Posted by The Mongolian Barbecue:
problems with ireland
1) Everyone is always drunk, except for punk rockers, who are always high on smack.
2) IRA extremists are always setting off bombs in shopping areas, except when they take time out to beat up on the locals.
3) Accents fucking annoying.
Posted by Moritz Moeller - Herrmann:
:-)
I agree completely, Stars! is the BEST strategy game I ever played. It's complex, demanding, extremely well balanced and runs on a 486 with Win3.11 just fine. The diplomatic tactics I used.... My gil-friend almost dumped me for this game. Hardly more charm then AmiPro for Windows though, if you just look at it.
It runs more or less perfectly (self-contradicting statement) in recent versions of WINE. So just check it out, a free demo version (good enough for a start) is available for free (2 MB??)
When will Stars! SuperNova, the planned sequel, be out? Anyone?
Posted by TikTac:
The main problem is that with such a distribution of IP addresses, the routers are having to keep more routes in memory. We're not really near running out of numbers, but if we have to assign two (or more) numerically unrelated blocks of IP addresses to a location, we aren't using the addresses efficiently, and the routers are going to bog down more and more with many routes going to the same place.
To summarize: We have a sufficient quantity of IP addresses for the near future. The problem we are encountering is that routers operate more efficiently if the IP addresses are under-utilized.
That is why we need IPv6 and it's insane number of IP addresses. If we can assign IP's without regard to efficiency of quantity, we can more easily aggregate routes efficiently, reducing maybe 12 routes into one route to a honkin huge set of IP's (which still would be less than a fraction of a percent of the available set of IP's)
Posted by jdanderson:
>>Why are the Egyptians asking me to stop pirating
>>their trade routes when I hadn't pirated their
>>routes for over a hundred turns?
>Another bug I've never seen. Perhaps it's fixed in the Linux version.
They're not asking you to stop pirating. They're asking you to sign a pact pledging that you'll refrain from piracy in the future. Breaking such a pact is an act of war. It damages your reputation, whereas pirating their trade route in the absence of a pact would not. You can see a list of treaties currently in force on the Diplomacy screen.
Posted by fingers_:
I also use festival because I found irssi (irc client) had a speech plugin. You could easily write a simple plugin to work with gEdit and do this for you. Festival works real nice with esddsp
. Too bad my machine is slow and irssi insists on reading people's hostnames/ip's which makes stuff *slow*.
And I'm sick of the englishman's voice...
Posted by Invisible1:
Your biggest problem is that everything you stated in your reply was either wrong,missguided, or just a obnoxious opinion. Which, of course your entitled to. The RSAT has found it's place in Multi-million dollar homes all the way down to Starter Homes, and out of thousands of customers over 22 years, some who bought thier systems on refferal only without ever hearing it, I can think of only 2, maybe 3 that were dissatisfied. And NONE have requested a refund. Even most High End speakers cannot match that claim.
Posted by Invisible1:
I'm sure you'll never know if they work or not because you'll be happy with the thought that money buys quality. Too bad it can't buy more of that intellegence you seem to set such great store in. Those who would condemn without understanding it are worse than idiots. And the Web Site will be updated soon....I've been too busy making money and satisfying customers since it was published in Jan.95.
Posted by hopless case:
Bookwyrm wrote:
Um. So? Why should innocent people be punished? I missed something there.
Bookwyrm:
Well, I don't think they should be punished, but clearly they have to be if you want to have IP be meaningful. Hence I conclude IP should not be meaningful.
If you don't punish the innocent, they get to use copyrighted and patented info without restriction because they never agreed to the copyright.
I am just pointing out that you can not fashion an IP system out of agreements and contract, and any IP system has to have a provision to punish the innocent.
Posted by Invisible1:
:-(
Let's take these as they come
"DO NOT series two individual transducers together to obtain a 16 ohm load. The first T/D in the series could receive a disportionate amount
of the power before it passes onto the next one in line.
*******
The initial surge into ANY type of series circuit will ALWAYS affect the leading device more strongly if both devices are of the same impedence.
*******
Because Amplifiers must, as a rule be turned up higher than nomally, it is wisest to design a system that plays comfortably at the lowest possible Impedence level"
*******
All this means is that you must pick your amp to meet your "worst case" load.
*******
Surely the power is equal between the two T/Ds ( so why would one distort first? )
*******
See above......most speakers that do not require much power seldom experience the headroom potential of a amp; or not for very long! The RSAT thrives on headroom, but because of this, what would be a subtle difference in effecient speakers becomes a much more dynamic one @ 100 watts continious power. Anyway, by parralleling before you series, you always create a beefier circuit. Two units in tandem have twice the power handling potential. In a series, they only have thier original power handling cababilities.
*******
And who came up with the idea that amplifiers are more stable with a smaller load? Why is there this fixation on the angle of the volume knob?
*******
The Web Site was designed for common folk who don't live and breathe Audio. To them, you have to talk at thier level, and use terms they relate to.
*******
Perhaps this guy should get a job in a PA company for a bit and _work_ with some amplifiers for a bit
*******
I was building PAs for Night Clubs, Arenas, and Bands, and doing Live and Studio mixdowns in 1972. Where were you then, A crib? The RSAT does so many things differently than conventional speakers, someone such as yourself would have to throw out all your old concepts and beleifs to accept what many 1000s have already embraced. Can you still learn/unlearn anything?
********
Posted by Invisible1:
...most speakers that do not require much power seldom experience the headroom potential of a amp; or not for very long! The RSAT thrives on headroom, but because of this, what would be a subtle difference in effecient speakers becomes a much more dynamic one @ 100 watts continious power. Anyway, by parralleling before you series, you always create a beefier circuit. Two units in tandem have twice the power handling potential. In a series, they only have thier original power handling cababilities.
:-(
Let's take these as they come
"DO NOT series two individual transducers together to obtain a 16 ohm load. The first T/D in the series could receive a disportionate amount
of the power before it passes onto the next one in line.
Because Amplifiers must, as a rule be turned up higher than nomally, it is wisest to design a system that plays comfortably at the lowest possible Impeadence level"
Surely the power is equal between the two T/Ds ( so why would one distort first? )
And who came up with the idea that amplifiers are more stable with a smaller load? Why is there no mention of damping factors needed to drive these "hifi" devices? Why is there this fixation on the angle of the volume knob?
Perhaps this guy should get a job in a PA company for a bit and _work_ with some amplifiers for a bit
I was building PAs for Night Clubs, Arenas, and Bands, and doing Live and Studio mixdowns in 1972. Where were you then, A crib? The RSAT does so many things differently than conventional speakers, someone such as yourself would have to throw out all your old concepts and beleifs to accept what 1000s have already embraced.
Posted by The Mongolian Barbecue:
it is very important to keep oil producing nations such as iran subjugated so we can squeeze as much oil out of them as we want. thus, contributing to their technology is a mistake, since it helps them to be independant and strong. so don't export. who cares about the terrorism they inflict- that only kills a few random US civilians and doesn't hurt the bottom line anyhow.
Posted by Invisible1:
Thanks for the support. But there is very little bleedthrough into the next room; less than any unbaffled In-wall spkr. And Town Homes are a regular type of installation for us. Most have Firewalls so sound transfer is not a problem.
As for retrofitting, only a 12" wide x 6" tall hole between the studs is needed, not the "tearing down" of walls. Usually, only people who have heard the RSAT in action say that because they cannot comprehend how a small device can create such a big sound. Until they see the unit itself, they think it must be a HUGE device.
Posted by Invisible1:
Meditation chamber, eh? Many Flotation tanks use the Rolen Star. Usually, about 8 of them. Nothing else lasts more than a few weeks, due to the saline environment, and Pink Floyd sounds pretty good inside one of those things. Subliminal Tapes take on a whole new effect. And waterbeds? You betchca!
Posted by Invisible1:
Meditation chamber, eh? Many Flotation tanks use the Rolen Star. Usually, about 8 of them. Nothing else lasts more than a few weeks, and Pink Floyed sounds pretty good inside one of those things.
Posted by Invisible1:
Thanks for the small vote of confidence. Many is the time I've removed existing In-wall speakers, installed the 'ducers, and refinished the old hole back to the original condition of the wall. And beleive me, more people bite on the idea of our cutting a small hole in a wall and then making it dissappear than settling for a Grill. That is if they know of our product. I'm suprised that there are so many narrow minded people out there in who feel it's neccessary to dis something they really don't have a understanding about. The few that have some audio experience I can forgive, for the whole concept seems just too alien for thier minds to accept. That fact keeps many from enjoying our systems. Too bad. But for anybody to flat out state that such a thing CAN'T sound good, or CAN'T possibly work, and that the appearence of the Web Site has anything to do with the validity of the product, smacks of small minds and ignorance.
For the record, I posted my 'artical' as a response to someone, not as an advertisement.
And anyone who has a bone to pick, or a comment to make, good or bad, just call me up for free, the 800 number is on my site. I've spent 22 + years satisfing customers while defending my product from all the 'High End' stores whose business I took away. The harsh comments I've read usually only come from those whose business was lost to Invisible Stereo because they looked down upon the customer, instead of treating him like a Human Being and trying to make them happy instead of poorer. And any who want a raft of refferences, and who are willing to run up thier phone bill, can get them from me. Take your pick...USA, Canada, Britain, Mexico, Austrailia, Denmark, Italy, South Africa, Saudia Arabia, Dealers or Customers, it makes no difference; they all say the same thing, "I didn't belive it until I heard it, and it sounded good enough for me."
Posted by Lord Kano-The Gangster Of Love:
>>I do agree with my gov't. however that some things that people in the middle east do are morally wrong and digusting to me.
I think that many things that people IN MY OWN country do are morally wrong and disgust me.
>>*HINT* They know this and are always looking over their shoulder to see if the people approve.
They don't care if people approve unless it's an election year, the American people become progressively stupider with each generation when it comes to politics and technology. We live in a country where Bill Clinton was elected president TWICE. We live in a country where Ted Kennedy gets to sit in judgement of people when thy're accused of sexual harrassment! If they cared about what the people want, they'd legalize medical Marijuana. They don't because the drug companies give heavily to the campaign coffers to keep it illegal.
>>I would like to see the day that EVERY individual has this power.
We'd only have that power *IF* we all used it.
>>I'm sure that some in the US gov't are sorry that the old DARPANET ever took off and grew to the Internet we all know and contribute to today.
Have you ever though that maybe, just maybe they intended to use it to track and monitor us all? But the explosion of people on it made that impossible? (not that I believe this, but I'm just raising the issue) after all there was a suspect in custody for writing the Mellissa virus in less than a week. They used the 'net to track him down.
>>Don't screw it up by helping those that abuse the rights of their own people!!
Oh, and the US government never does that huh? How about barbecuing children inside their homes? How about shooting unarmed women in the face? How about slamming pregnant women into walls stomache first? How about stomping people's pet dogs? How about illegally entrapping people for their political beliefs?
These are all things done by the "three letter" divisions within the US government.
I'd rather be here than anywhere else in the world, but we've got a long way to go.
LK