Yes, if I buy a book that is copyrighted, I have implicitly agreed to not violate the copyright.
Now suppose I start making copies and distributing them without any copyright notice attached, in violation of my implicit agreement.
The people I distributed the copies to are under no agreements whatsoever with anyone, yet copyright law would allow the copyright holder to act against them, forbidding them from using the contents of their own heads, once tainted by a copyrighted work.
This is what the author is referring to when he talks about how there is no way you can own information without owning other people. The copyright holder has no agreement with the people I gave copies to yet uses the government to punish them.
By your agreement theory, the only person the author should be able to punish is me, not innocent people I happened to communicate with.
So IP is not equivalent to contracts and agreements.
Have you? If your nails pop out, then your work is pretty poor. And any good installer checks back to see if the wall has been secured properly. he has to...most Sheetrock hangers could care less. If you have a bad case of loose sheetrock, all it takes is a few more screws and that's history. But in any case, in over 5000 installations I've overseen personally, and a bunch more elsewhere, not on recorded instance of any wall damage, reguardless of content/volume, has ever been recorded. And nails pop out if you slam a door if they are not sank into studs. Plaster walls, Wood paneling, Cultured Marble, (How do ya like that?) even R-Wall(Styrofoam overlaid by Plaster) has been used to great effect.
As for being a crock, how do you know for sure. Are you the authority on the subject. I think not. Keep an open mind. The days of the Inqusition are long gone. Most people don't trash what they don't understand these days. (Do they?)
I haven't had the same stability problems as you seem to have had with Zope's built-in Python Web server, and I'm running the "old" 1.10.2 release with ZopeHTTPServer. This is on Solaris 2.6, though. There's always ZServer with the later releases.
Hmmm, if pro/e is going to be ported to linux then I'll have to convince SDRC for porting I-DEAS to linux. My new visual is waiting down the hall to replace my good old indy. I can't wait to start on the Visual but I am afraid NT will never be as good as IRIX, which hasn't crashed on me ever.
I AM self-taught, my friend. Been teaching myself languages ever since I was five. School hasn't taught me jack about computers, and I'm not one of those inexperienced college preps that thinks a degree will solve everything.
And bad code? Yeah, I learned off of Matt Wright's scripts. Now that's some sloppy code. Took me some time to correct the mistakes of his code, but it was a learning experience. -- Brendan Byrd AKA SineSwiper Computer techie, PERL master, and all-purpose Internet guru
Yes, perhaps there are better things to report on, but that also means there are better things to comment on ya putz.:) Just like I've no doubt if MacOS released a new version it'd be up here, and when/if MS releases a new version, it'll be posted....Linux just releases a shitload of new versions.:)
You might be right, Ren. But I wonder if you're overestimating what people want to use computers for.
Sure, there are still people out there who are quite proficient in television production, but they are few and far between. While computer literacy will certainly grow, I doubt that the vast majority of people will want to program their own apps.
People who are literate, after all, don't go writing their own books, or even read a double-digit percentage of all the books out there. Pre-packaged, dumbed-down solutions, like AOL, are popular for a reason. Corporations aren't impeding our natural growth -- we do it all by ourselves.
Interesting commentary, though. I actually do hope you're right.
Now that's an article I can relate to. Seven years in the same job: computer support and book design (the ratio has changed as the network grew). Year after year of 50 hour weeks has taken its toll. I no longer look forward to coming in to work.
So effective today, I'm scaling back to a 40 hour week. The other computer guys can handle things for the last couple hours of the day. If not, well, I'll show up in the morning. It's not like surgery, life-and-death.
For me, it's been burnout for about three months. I don't even play games on my home computer any more. I need time for myself, my wife, my kids, and my fun stuff (oddly enough, including my web site, which is techie in nature).
This article is a warning to all of us to keep things in perspective.
Dan Knight, Mac Advocate dknight@reformed.net Low End Mac the iMac channel
"In view of the fact that God limited the intelligence of man, it seems unfair that He did not also limit his stupidity." - Konrad Adenauer
Sporks -do- cause serious Satanism - I saw one the other day, and I thought "Damn, I feel like eating babies and running around in little circles saying ".
You don't need to buy five different $30 books. The time start reading books to learn computer languages is the time I stop learning computer languages. Just look through some example code like the rest of us!
-- Brendan Byrd AKA SineSwiper Computer techie, PERL master, and all-purpose Internet guru
Can someone help, i installed the rpm for q3test, and the glide drivers for my Voodoo2. when i run./linuxquake, it looks for Opengl drivers and such that i don't have. What am i doing wrong and do i need if any more files?
From Kubrick to Silverstein, it seems like all of the bright writers/directors/artists are just dying off. I remember seeing 2001 at school and all of the great things it inspired. I remember having one of Silverstein's books read to me in elementary school. Hearing news like this just saddens all the great childhood memories I had. (sobbing)
Essentially, I have to agree with the general point of your posting. People these days spend too much time reading Sci-Fi and not enough time actually reading about science.
Sci-Fi is not about science, it's about our own terrestrial obsessions projected onto a bunch of aliens.
As a point in case, just consider the amount of Sci-Fi which is set here in the solar-system versus the amount which is set on *habitable* planets around other stars.
Having discovered that there are no easy frontiers here in our own backyard, we ignore the possibilities and look elsewhere, in spite of the enourmous resources in terms of material and energy that we could tap.
In short, most Sci-Fi looks at the past. It's an attempt to re-enact the process of European colonialism on a larger scale. Because of that, few people are interested in anything that isn't a habitable planet.
Still, things are gradually changing. The terra-forming of Mars is gradually coming into the conceptual realm of the general public and it may simply be a matter of time before we re-adjust our perspective away from terrestrial obsessions. Unfortunatly for me, it's not likely to be during my lifetime though.
[sarcasm] Ohh yes! I'm sure AOL is planning on porting Slackware. They'll use tcsh, X with no window manager, and Lynx. It will be grand! [/sarcasm]
I'm sure all the really ugly parts of Linux that we have grow to love will be hidden from the user. They'll flip the switch and will be dropped into a browser. End of story. The only reason that they are looking at Linux is because it's...
Apparently you haven't been exposed to Sun's propaganda. Otherwise you would know that the Java object would be running your refrigerator, so that your juice would be colder! Java Juice or just JJuice.
Should be easy to make an app in java 2 using the JCE and streams. What type of encryption do you want?
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Posted by Jeremy Allison - Samba Team:
> Now, as both Solaris and Linux had nearly > identical graphs for the NetBench part, and > both were using Samba, I think we know where > the bottleneck there is...
Err, actually no. The bottleneck isn't Samba.
If you look carefully at the Solaris analysis at page :
"To isolate the disk subsystem as a bottleneck, we created a temporary RAM disk to hold workload files, effectively eliminating the need to hit the RAID array for data. In this configuration, the powerful capabilities of Solaris 7's networking kernel were unleashed--to the tune of 360M bps on NetBench."
What this means is that when Samba is run on a very tuned SMP OS such as Solaris (ignoring the disk subsystem for the moment) then Samba can produce numbers that out perform *all* the other systems (the peak NT number is around 340 I think). What is killing Solaris here is their awful disk system. If they had a decent disk file system they would have had beaten NT when using Samba to serve Win95 clients as their SMP is so good.
This corresponds well with the results I get in the SGI labs using IRIX, which is also a highly tuned SMP OS (but with a better disk file system, XFS:-). I can beat NT comfortably using Samba and IRIX on an SMP box, but IRIX only runs on MIPS boxes from SGI.
What this means for Linux is that we need to do more work on the SMP scaling in the Linux kernel, as Samba isn't the bottleneck here. I'm doing a lot of work on userland caching at the moment to help out on the Samba side, but Linux just needs a bit more SMP work. Don't worry, it's coming (I know *lots* of people working on this)........
Linux could be a very smart move for AOL, which really doesn't care what OS is used, as long as it works and will allow access AOL content. And Linux, after all, is free...!
That won't make Sun Microsystems happy, but it's not like Sun has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that Java technologies can work seamlessly on these smaller appliances.
Figure Linux on the set-top boxes, maybe a small Java OS on handhelds (and yeah, AOL wants in on handhelds, too). I don't even think AOL will mind the GPL on Linux -- the more people who have boxes, the better off AOL will be.
Gotta remember, AOL is all about reaching customers with content. They'd do it by carrier pigeon if they thought it would work.
Here's a scary thought for y'all. Back when TV was getting off the ground, everyone was psyched about the technology behind it. Today, we take the television infrastruture -- the satellite transmissions, TV cameras, etc. -- for granted. That will probably happen with computing, one day, and AOL knows it.
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Posted by hopless case:
Yes, if I buy a book that is copyrighted, I have implicitly agreed to not violate the copyright.
Now suppose I start making copies and distributing them without any copyright notice attached, in violation of my implicit agreement.
The people I distributed the copies to are under no agreements whatsoever with anyone, yet copyright law would allow the copyright holder to act against them, forbidding them from using the contents of their own heads, once tainted by a copyrighted work.
This is what the author is referring to when he talks about how there is no way you can own information without owning other people. The copyright holder has no agreement with the people I gave copies to yet uses the government to punish them.
By your agreement theory, the only person the author should be able to punish is me, not innocent people I happened to communicate with.
So IP is not equivalent to contracts and agreements.
Posted by Invisible1:
Have you? If your nails pop out, then your work is pretty poor. And any good installer checks back to see if the wall has been secured properly. he has to...most Sheetrock hangers could care less.
If you have a bad case of loose sheetrock, all it takes is a few more screws and that's history. But in any case, in over 5000 installations I've overseen personally, and a bunch more elsewhere, not on recorded instance of any wall damage, reguardless of content/volume, has ever been recorded. And nails pop out if you slam a door if they are not sank into studs. Plaster walls, Wood paneling, Cultured Marble, (How do ya like that?) even R-Wall(Styrofoam overlaid by Plaster) has been used to great effect.
As for being a crock, how do you know for sure. Are you the authority on the subject. I think not. Keep an open mind. The days of the Inqusition are long gone. Most people don't trash what they don't understand these days. (Do they?)
Here's a direct URL to the LA Times story
Tech Workers Are in Demand, but Field Has Dark SidePosted by pboddie:
I haven't had the same stability problems as you
seem to have had with Zope's built-in Python Web
server, and I'm running the "old" 1.10.2 release
with ZopeHTTPServer. This is on Solaris 2.6,
though. There's always ZServer with the later
releases.
Posted by 2stroke:
Hmmm, if pro/e is going to be ported to linux then I'll have to convince SDRC for porting I-DEAS to linux. My new visual is waiting down the hall to replace my good old indy. I can't wait to start on the Visual but I am afraid NT will never be as good as IRIX, which hasn't crashed on me ever.
Dirk
Posted by Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper:
I AM self-taught, my friend. Been teaching myself languages ever since I was five. School hasn't taught me jack about computers, and I'm not one of those inexperienced college preps that thinks a degree will solve everything.
And bad code? Yeah, I learned off of Matt Wright's scripts. Now that's some sloppy code. Took me some time to correct the mistakes of his code, but it was a learning experience.
--
Brendan Byrd AKA SineSwiper
Computer techie, PERL master, and all-purpose Internet guru
Posted by Nericus:
:) Just like I've no doubt if MacOS released a new version it'd be up here, and when/if MS releases a new version, it'll be posted....Linux just releases a shitload of new versions. :)
Yes, perhaps there are better things to report on, but that also means there are better things to comment on ya putz.
Posted by Mike@ABC:
You might be right, Ren. But I wonder if you're overestimating what people want to use computers for.
Sure, there are still people out there who are quite proficient in television production, but they are few and far between. While computer literacy will certainly grow, I doubt that the vast majority of people will want to program their own apps.
People who are literate, after all, don't go writing their own books, or even read a double-digit percentage of all the books out there. Pre-packaged, dumbed-down solutions, like AOL, are popular for a reason. Corporations aren't impeding our natural growth -- we do it all by ourselves.
Interesting commentary, though. I actually do hope you're right.
Posted by Mac Daniel:
Now that's an article I can relate to. Seven years in the same job: computer support and book design (the ratio has changed as the network grew). Year after year of 50 hour weeks has taken its toll. I no longer look forward to coming in to work.
So effective today, I'm scaling back to a 40 hour week. The other computer guys can handle things for the last couple hours of the day. If not, well, I'll show up in the morning. It's not like surgery, life-and-death.
For me, it's been burnout for about three months. I don't even play games on my home computer any more. I need time for myself, my wife, my kids, and my fun stuff (oddly enough, including my web site, which is techie in nature).
This article is a warning to all of us to keep things in perspective.
Dan Knight, Mac Advocate dknight@reformed.net
Low End Mac
the iMac channel
"In view of the fact that God limited the intelligence of man,
it seems unfair that He did not also limit his stupidity."
- Konrad Adenauer
Posted by Tempt:
Dude,
Sporks -do- cause serious Satanism - I saw one the other day, and I thought "Damn, I feel like eating babies and running around in little circles saying ".
Posted by Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper:
I have two guides:
man perl
perldoc -f whatever
You don't need to buy five different $30 books. The time start reading books to learn computer languages is the time I stop learning computer languages. Just look through some example code like the rest of us!
--
Brendan Byrd AKA SineSwiper
Computer techie, PERL master, and all-purpose Internet guru
Posted by Bluskye:
./linuxquake, it looks for Opengl drivers and such that i don't have. What am i doing wrong and do i need if any more files?
Can someone help, i installed the rpm for q3test, and the glide drivers for my Voodoo2. when i run
Posted by jimmylin:
From Kubrick to Silverstein, it seems like all of the bright writers/directors/artists are just dying off. I remember seeing 2001 at school and all of the great things it inspired. I remember having one of Silverstein's books read to me in elementary school. Hearing news like this just saddens all the great childhood memories I had. (sobbing)
Posted by BrianDaMac:
OpenPlay looks really cool. I hope this gets ported to Linux so game companies that use it would be more willing to port to Linux.
Posted by stodge:
Bored already. Next......
Posted by thomasf:
lftp will also do this. It also comes with a cool mirror option that will mirror a remote directory to a specified local one.
Posted by AnnoyingMouseCoward:
Essentially, I have to agree with the general point of your posting. People these days spend too much time reading Sci-Fi and not enough time actually reading about science.
Sci-Fi is not about science, it's about our own terrestrial obsessions projected onto a bunch of aliens.
As a point in case, just consider the amount of Sci-Fi which is set here in the solar-system versus the amount which is set on *habitable* planets around other stars.
Having discovered that there are no easy frontiers here in our own backyard, we ignore the possibilities and look elsewhere, in spite of the enourmous resources in terms of material and energy that we could tap.
In short, most Sci-Fi looks at the past. It's an attempt to re-enact the process of European colonialism on a larger scale. Because of that, few people are interested in anything that isn't a habitable planet.
Still, things are gradually changing. The terra-forming of Mars is gradually coming into the conceptual realm of the general public and it may simply be a matter of time before we re-adjust our perspective away from terrestrial obsessions. Unfortunatly for me, it's not likely to be during my lifetime though.
Posted by The Mongolian Barbecue:
something is wrong! all the articles have dissappeared! Please bring them back! Please!
Posted by Jordan Running:
Well, I for one found it quite informative... it's a Zen thing.
[sarcasm]
Ohh yes! I'm sure AOL is planning on porting Slackware. They'll use tcsh, X with no window manager, and Lynx. It will be grand!
[/sarcasm]
I'm sure all the really ugly parts of Linux that we have grow to love will be hidden from the user. They'll flip the switch and will be dropped into a browser. End of story. The only reason that they are looking at Linux is because it's...
Posted by kenmcneil:
Apparently you haven't been exposed to Sun's propaganda. Otherwise you would know that the Java object would be running your refrigerator, so that your juice would be colder! Java Juice or just JJuice.
Posted by alanut:
Should be easy to make an app in java 2 using the JCE and streams. What type of encryption do you want?
Posted by Jeremy Allison - Samba Team:
0 ,401974,00.html
:-). I can beat NT comfortably
> Now, as both Solaris and Linux had nearly
> identical graphs for the NetBench part, and
> both were using Samba, I think we know where
> the bottleneck there is...
Err, actually no. The bottleneck isn't Samba.
If you look carefully at the Solaris analysis at page :
http://www.zdnet.com/pcweek/stories/jumps/0,427
You'll find this interesting quote :
"To isolate the disk subsystem as a bottleneck, we created a
temporary RAM disk to hold workload files, effectively
eliminating the need to hit the RAID array for data. In this
configuration, the powerful capabilities of Solaris 7's networking
kernel were unleashed--to the tune of 360M bps on NetBench."
What this means is that when Samba is run on a very tuned SMP
OS such as Solaris (ignoring the disk subsystem for the moment)
then Samba can produce numbers that out perform *all* the other
systems (the peak NT number is around 340 I think). What is killing
Solaris here is their awful disk system. If they had a decent disk
file system they would have had beaten NT when using Samba to
serve Win95 clients as their SMP is so good.
This corresponds well with the results I get in the SGI labs
using IRIX, which is also a highly tuned SMP OS (but with a
better disk file system, XFS
using Samba and IRIX on an SMP box, but IRIX only runs on MIPS
boxes from SGI.
What this means for Linux is that we need to do more work
on the SMP scaling in the Linux kernel, as Samba isn't the
bottleneck here. I'm doing a lot of work on userland caching
at the moment to help out on the Samba side, but Linux just
needs a bit more SMP work. Don't worry, it's coming (I know
*lots* of people working on this)........
Regards,
Jeremy Allison,
Samba Team.
Posted by Mike@ABC:
Linux could be a very smart move for AOL, which really doesn't care what OS is used, as long as it works and will allow access AOL content. And Linux, after all, is free...!
That won't make Sun Microsystems happy, but it's not like Sun has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that Java technologies can work seamlessly on these smaller appliances.
Figure Linux on the set-top boxes, maybe a small Java OS on handhelds (and yeah, AOL wants in on handhelds, too). I don't even think AOL will mind the GPL on Linux -- the more people who have boxes, the better off AOL will be.
Gotta remember, AOL is all about reaching customers with content. They'd do it by carrier pigeon if they thought it would work.
Here's a scary thought for y'all. Back when TV was getting off the ground, everyone was psyched about the technology behind it. Today, we take the television infrastruture -- the satellite transmissions, TV cameras, etc. -- for granted. That will probably happen with computing, one day, and AOL knows it.
Posted by FascDot Killed My Previous Use:
Linux is an operating system. Java is a programming language. They serve totally different purposes.