Ok, I'll admit that this might seem like splitting hairs, but there is a fundemental difference here.
I the case of Unix, the split within the product base has resulted in fierce competition. The various innovations that have been tried have been ruthlessly tested by the market place. This type of "darwinian selection" rapidly culls bozo features from the OS/application base.
In the case of M$ ( or any propriatory system ), their "innovation" is a matter of marketing hype. The nifty ( but essentially useless chrome ) that is served up to the user base is ( via M$'s monopolistic marketing practices ) essentially kept in a protective "hot-house". The result of this has been a steady accumulation of mis-features that have to be supported for the sak of backward compatibility.
So while the two processes may appear to be superficially similiar, they are radically different. Unix functions in the "tooth and claw" realm of the software jungle, while M$ functions in the evolutionary detente of an isolated ecosystem.
Ok, I know I'm really sreatching the analogy, but that's the way that I see it. Like the Dodo, M$ has evolved to survive in an eco-niche where there are no signifigant predators. It's given up flight and settled down, content that no one can force it out.
To me, this is the fundemental difference. Unix's ( like Linux ) evolve dynamically to meet changing conditions. Propriatory systems are driven by the "vision" of a small group of individuals. That works, but only as long as that "vision" remains congruent with reality.
Where it fails is when this small group of "visionaries" start to believe their own propaganda and start telling the consumer base what they are going to get, rather than asking them what they want.
Agreed, more and more apps are moving straight to web interfaces. Is it that hard to imagine a word processor that runs in a brower? (yea, formatting would be a bitch, but.....) So all we really need is a nice, stable, cheap, OS to run under it all. Wonder where we could find one?
I agree too. Now everyone in the anti-m$ camp is betting on Netscape. Somebody ought to use the gecko engine to write a new word proceesor. It can be done, especailly with the precise control of css1 css2. Where can we find a more popular format than dot/doc/xls? What else html4.0. Yes there are problems, but it can be solved. And it's good enough for everybody who doesn't want to waste time on word processor. CY
I do have a permit to carry a concealed weapon. This machine isn't a problem today, but the fear is that this type of technology could be used in the future to enforce gun prohibition.
I wonder what these jokers would have said about the breakup of AT&T. It shows a certain lack of imagination as to what a world without a unified Microsoft would be like. I believe Microsoft will benefit from the breakup as well. They have stagnated as a company and could use a shakeup.
I just found this website as it was listed as a good place to hear kid's comments about the Little ton incident. Incidentaly, the list is PSYART - Institute for Psychological study of the Arts and the main threads for the past 2 weeks have had to do with Littleton. Most of the subscribers are psychologists, profesors of and students of and all of you should be encouraged that this list of over 750 people agree with you regarding the reasons for the shootings,the ridiculous coverage by the media and the subsequent backlash that is making your situations worse. I knew it would happen and I knew it would not be reported.I am responding to this particular post because I graduated from MSU (MI) and now live in Memphis and sure know the difference between that one and Ol' Miss. I was popular in high school but also considered a non-conformist. Yet, I was just popular enough to be friends with anyone I chose and not be picked on by the other 'A list' kids. My son, now 28, was the same way. An A student, a jock, but a free-thinker who had geeks for friends and no one dared challenge him. My heart goes out to all of you. I've seen the cruelty to kids that are considered nerds. One of those guys is now a nuclear physicist with NASA and one very cool guy is an alcoholic, disinherited by his very wealthy father and runs a shabby cheap motel in Northern MI. SO THERE! I was called into the principals office and was told (by a nun) to cut my long hair because it was "sugggestive" to the boys and because I was a 'leader' other girls were growing their hair long to emulate me. Of course I didn't cut it. I was chastised for having a "boy/girl party at my house (with my parents there)in the 9th grade. My parents were called because I was reading Lolita in the high school library. My parents sided with me, told the school to give me back my book and I could read it at home. This was in the early 60's. Ask your parents what their life was like in high school. What did they think of the war in Vietnam and were they in the majority or minority. What about the Detroit riots following the assasination of Martin Luther King. There were "issues" then too although not as complicated as the ones you have to deal with today. I wish you all the best. Stay true to yourselves but don't fall into a reverse snobbery position. Just wait until your 15 year class reunion and see who has done what with their lives.
The operating software from the CONPASS X 1280 provides control of activation, image producing, processing and downloading or can be transmitted to the supervisor database for detailed examination.
This makes hacking a handy tool for terrorists and smugglers. The "only" thing they have to do is hack the scanning station's computer, to display the image that they want the operator to see at the right time. If the system has automated image recognition-based alarms for knives, guns, drugs etc. you need to disable them as well.
One might envision a specifically shaped object that can be recognized by computer vision techniques, triggering the fake image display and disabling alarms.
Given the current rate of virusses popping up for windoze systems, it is a pretty scary thought.
Currently a discussion similar to this, about the implications of Sun's death grip on Java, has begun on the java-linux mailing list. You can find more information about the list here. I encourage anyone who wishes to discuss this further to contribute. A good place to start is with the original post which was titled "Sun Bashing 2" ("Sun Bashing" was about Sun's lack of enthusiasm over Linx) and was posted by myself, kenmcneil@hotmail.com.
Heh.....every lamer's ReplayTV is going to be flashing 12:00 over and over.
Hey at least it won't crash at the midnight of Dec 31, 99 will it.
I think this is a killer app. Maybe some one ought to start a daily ad-filter script site that ofter the commercial time table on every Simpson and Law and Order. You can charge me for 5 dollars a month. Heck, I'd jump ship for 9.99/m.
Or also if it's pre-empted by a sporting event or the president blabbing about something or another on TV.
I guess that last one can't be helped but we all know like football games always go over like at least half an hour...then they STILL show that damn post game coverage or whatever---another half hour of slo-mo on something you just saw!
Not that missing the Simpsons once will kill me or anything, just wondering if they've thought about these situations. Futurama on the other hand...heheh
Anyways, will it be able to handle that?
Sounds cool but lots of caveats...
Oscar ---- "Wars, conflict, it's all business. One murder makes a villain. Millions a hero. Numbers sanctify."
Note: this is not a game, it's a trial test of some game technology which happens to bear a strong resemblence to a game which will come out a LONG time from now. Sorry to respond to flamebait.
Read an article about this in some 'zine. There will be a thirty second skip button, and with 99.9% of all comercials being 30 seconds... well, the articles example was that if you have your vcr start "taping" ER, and you start watching it 17 minutes into it, you will be able to skip all the comercials and finish watching it within a minute of people who sat down for the whole hour. Still cool, but I'd rather have a dvd-recorder. And a T1. Heck, I'd settle for a voodoo2 so I can play quake. And as a side note, for those who can't play quake, check out interactive fiction, and the fifth year contest, at www.textfire.com
You are absolutely correct. The more I use the net, the less I can tolerate commercial, of any form. Every ad looks like spam to me. It's to the stage that I simply can't watch live show anymore because I can't even watch 240 seconds of ads. Besides, I have dejanews, I don't need TV to tell me what should I buy. CY
We've got IRIX, Solaris, and linux running as clients and servers. IRIX and Solaris support NFS version 3. Linux currently supports only version 2. It has been my experience that NFSv3 helped performance quite a bit. Our mail server supports NFSv3. We noticed that mail user agents such as pine were running much slower on NFSv2 clients such as linux that it was on NFSv3 clients. Turns out that reading mail is a very write intensive operation! NFSv3 optimizes writes. There are of course other ways to optimize writes on a server mostly involving saving written data to memory in a RAID controller.
Another feature of Solaris is commands like nfsstat which can help you determine what's going on with your NFS servers and clients.
When I was your age we didn't have NFS. We had to feed stacks of computer cards into card readers which sometimes jammed sending you to a key punch to retype the 80 byte data card. Yep NFS seems pretty fast to me so be happy you at least got NFSv2.
If it works, why do you want to change it? Surely your loyalty to Linux/FreeBSD isn't clouding your judgement now, is it?:) It's okay, that's the standard 'I'm new here, I don't know how anything works, let's use Linux!!' opinion that most newbies who don't know Solaris have. Maybe I've just seen this too many times.. I hate it when people get hired and want to change OPERATING SYSTEMS on the servers because they have a personal preference..
Actually, the flash on the MB is more likely to have been produced by AMD. They have a larger market share in flash memory than Intel, due largely to the fact that they sell it for less AND it has a longer life cycle (measured in write/erase cycles).
We shouldn't have to do neither, if you've got nothing better to do then help a work in progress become something, then by all means, go right ahead. But if you've got a life and like to get things done ASAP then use Windows. I'm not talking about Using NT over Linux for a network, but if you are so stuborn that you "refuse to boot into windows" (like a previous poster said) then you are too stubborn and are just flat out some teenage nerd who will probably end up making pipe bombs and shooting classmates. bye.
Looking at the numbers reported on The Internet Operating System Counter , it's fairly obvious that a lot of people are migrating to Linux.
I published an analysis "Growing Internet Presence" at which notes that during the past 3 months, the number of web servers (www, ftp, mail) grew a bit over 27% -- but Linux increased by 39%. (The Mac OS was the only other OS to grow faster than the market, while Windoze was a bit behind the market.)
That doesn't demonstrate performance, but does show that a lot of servers the used to be Windows or other Unix variants are now going Linux. With 31.3% of all servers using Linux, more experts are choosing it than any other OS.
Dan Knight, Mac Advocate dknight@reformed.net Low End Mac the iMac channel
"In view of the fact that God limited the intelligence of man, it seems unfair that He did not also limit his stupidity." - Konrad Adenauer
I read with intereset the stories of victimisation of those who are different.
People who show signs of thinking for themselves will always be feared because they threaten the status quo. They threaten to break apart people's comfortable little world by challenging their assumptions about it.
Socrates, Plato, Gallileo, Luther, Darwin.....and so on and so on.....
Du you realy think that the answer is "do what the mob whants you to do"? I dont think so. One have to stand up and fight for your right to be diffrent and to wear whatever you feel good in. I for myself let nobody tell me what I have to wear or what couler my nails should have.
Slashdot Mirror
Posted by AnnoyingMouseCoward:
Ok, I'll admit that this might seem like splitting hairs, but there is a fundemental difference here.
I the case of Unix, the split within the product base has resulted in fierce competition. The various innovations that have been tried have been ruthlessly tested by the market place. This type of "darwinian selection" rapidly culls bozo features from the OS/application base.
In the case of M$ ( or any propriatory system ), their "innovation" is a matter of marketing hype. The nifty ( but essentially useless chrome ) that is served up to the user base is ( via M$'s monopolistic marketing practices ) essentially kept in a protective "hot-house". The result of this has been a steady accumulation of mis-features that have to be supported for the sak of backward compatibility.
So while the two processes may appear to be superficially similiar, they are radically different. Unix functions in the "tooth and claw" realm of the software jungle, while M$ functions in the evolutionary detente of an isolated ecosystem.
Ok, I know I'm really sreatching the analogy, but that's the way that I see it. Like the Dodo, M$ has evolved to survive in an eco-niche where there are no signifigant predators. It's given up flight and settled down, content that no one can force it out.
To me, this is the fundemental difference. Unix's ( like Linux ) evolve dynamically to meet changing conditions. Propriatory systems are driven by the "vision" of a small group of individuals. That works, but only as long as that "vision" remains congruent with reality.
Where it fails is when this small group of "visionaries" start to believe their own propaganda and start telling the consumer base what they are going to get, rather than asking them what they want.
Just my $0.02 worth.
Posted by My_Favorite_Anonymous_Coward:
Agreed, more and more apps are moving straight to web interfaces. Is it that hard to imagine a word processor that runs in a brower? (yea, formatting would be a bitch, but.....) So all we really need is a nice, stable, cheap, OS to run under it all. Wonder where we could find one?
I agree too. Now everyone in the anti-m$ camp is betting on Netscape. Somebody ought to use the gecko engine to write a new word proceesor. It can be done, especailly with the precise control of css1 css2. Where can we find a more popular format than dot/doc/xls? What else html4.0. Yes there are problems, but it can be solved. And it's good enough for everybody who doesn't want to waste time on word processor.
CY
Posted by Lord Kano-The Gangster Of Love:
I do have a permit to carry a concealed weapon. This machine isn't a problem today, but the fear is that this type of technology could be used in the future to enforce gun prohibition.
LK
Considering it costs $356,000.00 to purchase, it's no surprise that it runs under Windows. Apparently Billy told em how to market it.
Posted by Neid:
I wonder what these jokers would have said about the breakup of AT&T. It shows a certain lack of imagination as to what a world without a unified Microsoft would be like. I believe Microsoft will benefit from the breakup as well. They have stagnated as a company and could use a shakeup.
Posted by Justin:
i thought it was 3000?
anyone confirm either way?
Posted by Stephen "The Carp" Carpenter:
:) They will enjoy seeing your esophogus,
My mother worked as an X-Ray tech at a hospital
for 30 years (it was her job to take the patient to the table, position the tube and press the
button)
Anyway...just drink some contrast fluid before
you go
stomac, intestines and colon.
....Course I dunno if it would be worth the
chauly taste of barrium swallow or the after
effects in the bathroom....
Posted by DRoper:
I just found this website as it was listed as a
good place to hear kid's comments about the Little
ton incident. Incidentaly, the list is PSYART -
Institute for Psychological study of the Arts and the main threads for the past 2 weeks have had to
do with Littleton. Most of the subscribers are psychologists, profesors of and students of and all of you should be encouraged that this list of over 750 people agree with you regarding the reasons for the shootings,the ridiculous coverage by the media and the subsequent backlash that is making your situations worse. I knew it would happen and I knew it would not be reported.I am responding to this particular post because I graduated from MSU (MI) and now live in Memphis and sure know the difference between that one and Ol' Miss. I was popular in high school but also considered a non-conformist. Yet, I was just popular enough to be friends with anyone I chose and not be picked on by the other 'A list' kids.
My son, now 28, was the same way. An A student, a jock, but a free-thinker who had geeks for friends and no one dared challenge him. My heart goes out to all of you. I've seen the cruelty to kids that are considered nerds. One of those guys is now a nuclear physicist with NASA and one very cool guy is an alcoholic, disinherited by his very wealthy father and runs a shabby cheap motel in Northern MI. SO THERE! I was called into the principals office and was told (by a nun) to cut my long hair because it was "sugggestive" to the boys and because I was a 'leader' other girls were growing their hair long to emulate me. Of course I didn't cut it. I was chastised for having a "boy/girl party at my house (with my parents there)in the 9th grade. My parents were called because I was reading Lolita in the high school library. My parents sided with me, told the school to give me back my book and I could read it at home. This was in the early 60's. Ask your parents what their life was like in high school. What did they think of the war in Vietnam and were they in the majority or minority. What about the Detroit riots following the assasination of Martin Luther King. There were "issues" then too although not as complicated as the ones you have to deal with today. I wish you all the best. Stay true to yourselves but don't fall into a reverse snobbery position. Just wait until your 15 year class reunion and see who has done what with their lives.
Posted by Fleeno:
Is it Slashdotted already?
From their own webpage:
This makes hacking a handy tool for terrorists and smugglers. The "only" thing they have to do is hack the scanning station's computer, to display the image that they want the operator to see at the right time. If the system has automated image recognition-based alarms for knives, guns, drugs etc. you need to disable them as well.
One might envision a specifically shaped object that can be recognized by computer vision techniques, triggering the fake image display and disabling alarms.
Given the current rate of virusses popping up for windoze systems, it is a pretty scary thought.
- the Apocalyptic Lawnmower
Posted by kenmcneil:
Currently a discussion similar to this, about the implications of Sun's death grip on Java, has begun on the java-linux mailing list. You can find more information about the list here. I encourage anyone who wishes to discuss this further to contribute. A good place to start is with the original post which was titled "Sun Bashing 2" ("Sun Bashing" was about Sun's lack of enthusiasm over Linx) and was posted by myself, kenmcneil@hotmail.com.
Posted by My_Favorite_Anonymous_Coward:
Heh.....every lamer's ReplayTV is going to be flashing 12:00 over and over.
Hey at least it won't crash at the midnight of Dec 31, 99 will it.
I think this is a killer app. Maybe some one ought to start a daily ad-filter script site that ofter the commercial time table on every Simpson and Law and Order. You can charge me for 5 dollars a month. Heck, I'd jump ship for 9.99/m.
cy
Posted by The Incredible Mr. Limpett:
Or also if it's pre-empted by a sporting event or the president blabbing about something or another on TV.
I guess that last one can't be helped but we all know like football games always go over like at least half an hour...then they STILL show that damn post game coverage or whatever---another half hour of slo-mo on something you just saw!
Not that missing the Simpsons once will kill me or anything, just wondering if they've thought about these situations. Futurama on the other hand...heheh
Anyways, will it be able to handle that?
Sounds cool but lots of caveats...
Oscar
----
"Wars, conflict, it's all business. One murder makes a
villain. Millions a hero. Numbers sanctify."
Posted by Mojoski:
It's all you need to be secure...
Posted by OGL:
Note: this is not a game, it's a trial test of some game technology which happens to bear a strong resemblence to a game which will come out a LONG time from now. Sorry to respond to flamebait.
-W.W.
Posted by My_Favorite_Anonymous_Coward:
Read an article about this in some 'zine. There will be a thirty second skip button, and with 99.9% of all comercials being 30 seconds... well, the articles example was that if you have your vcr start "taping" ER, and you start watching it 17 minutes into it, you will be able to skip all the comercials and finish watching it within a minute of people who sat down for the whole hour. Still cool, but I'd rather have a dvd-recorder. And a T1. Heck, I'd settle for a voodoo2 so I can play quake. And as a side note, for those who can't play quake, check out interactive fiction, and the fifth year contest, at www.textfire.com
You are absolutely correct. The more I use the net, the less I can tolerate commercial, of any form. Every ad looks like spam to me. It's to the stage that I simply can't watch live show anymore because I can't even watch 240 seconds of ads. Besides, I have dejanews, I don't need TV to tell me what should I buy.
CY
Posted by Grumpy_Old_Manager:
We've got IRIX, Solaris, and linux running as clients and servers. IRIX and Solaris support NFS version 3. Linux currently supports only version 2. It has been my experience that NFSv3 helped performance quite a bit. Our mail server supports NFSv3. We noticed that mail user agents such as pine were running much slower on NFSv2 clients such as linux that it was on NFSv3 clients. Turns out that reading mail is a very write intensive operation! NFSv3 optimizes writes. There are of course other ways to optimize writes on a server mostly involving saving written data to memory in a RAID controller.
Another feature of Solaris is commands like nfsstat which can help you determine what's going on with your NFS servers and clients.
When I was your age we didn't have NFS. We had to feed stacks of computer cards into card readers which sometimes jammed sending you to a key punch to retype the 80 byte data card. Yep NFS seems pretty fast to me so be happy you at least got NFSv2.
Posted by FascDot Killed My Previous Use:
This would make home-based non-linear video editing as easy as desktop publishing.
Posted by Lord Kano-The Gangster Of Love:
>>Like it or not, you ARE a citizen of the planet earth.
No, I'm not. I have never taken an oath to uphold the UN charter. I have however done so for the US constitution.
>>We are on the verge of a new millennium and you're babbling about evil socialists and how your guns will be taken away.
Socialism is evil. It takes away the desire to achieve, because if you do you'll be punished for it and those who don't will be rewarded.
>>Best you go back into your nuclear bomb shelter and worry about the black helicopters flying overhead.
I don't know about you, but black unmarked helicopers flying over my house at night and the sounds of machine gun fire.
But then again, I guess you wouldn't know.
LK
Posted by The King of the Potato People:
:) It's okay, that's the standard 'I'm new here, I don't know how anything works, let's use Linux!!' opinion that most newbies who don't know Solaris have. Maybe I've just seen this too many times.. I hate it when people get hired and want to change OPERATING SYSTEMS on the servers because they have a personal preference..
If it works, why do you want to change it? Surely your loyalty to Linux/FreeBSD isn't clouding your judgement now, is it?
Why reinvent the wheel?
ash
Posted by The Masked Miscreant >:):
Actually, the flash on the MB is more likely to have been produced by AMD. They have a larger market share in flash memory than Intel, due largely to the fact that they sell it for less AND it has a longer life cycle (measured in write/erase cycles).
Posted by heaven is falling:
We shouldn't have to do neither, if you've got nothing better to do then help a work in progress become something, then by all means, go right ahead. But if you've got a life and like to get things done ASAP then use Windows. I'm not talking about Using NT over Linux for a network, but if you are so stuborn that you "refuse to boot into windows" (like a previous poster said) then you are too stubborn and are just flat out some teenage nerd who will probably end up making pipe bombs and shooting classmates. bye.
Posted by Mac Daniel:
Looking at the numbers reported on The Internet Operating System Counter , it's fairly obvious that a lot of people are migrating to Linux.
I published an analysis "Growing Internet Presence" at which notes that during the past 3 months, the number of web servers (www, ftp, mail) grew a bit over 27% -- but Linux increased by 39%. (The Mac OS was the only other OS to grow faster than the market, while Windoze was a bit behind the market.)
That doesn't demonstrate performance, but does show that a lot of servers the used to be Windows or other Unix variants are now going Linux. With 31.3% of all servers using Linux, more experts are choosing it than any other OS.
Dan Knight, Mac Advocate dknight@reformed.net
Low End Mac
the iMac channel
"In view of the fact that God limited the intelligence of man,
it seems unfair that He did not also limit his stupidity."
- Konrad Adenauer
Posted by GrafLir:
I read with intereset the stories of victimisation of those who are different.
People who show signs of thinking for themselves will always be feared because they threaten the status quo. They threaten to break apart people's comfortable little world by challenging their assumptions about it.
Socrates, Plato, Gallileo, Luther, Darwin.....and so on and so on.....
Posted by Dr_Pain:
Du you realy think that the answer is "do what the mob whants you to do"?
I dont think so. One have to stand up and fight for your right to be diffrent and to wear whatever you feel good in.
I for myself let nobody tell me what I have to wear or what couler my nails should have.