I have found a site that lists mirrors for red hat. I don't know about you but the list of sites at redhat's mirrors seem very busy. This list has many different mirror sites listed and I found one that flew through the download (ftp.real-time.com). The site listing those mirrors is http://www.multithread.co.uk/mirrors.html. Hope that helps for those of us that don't want to wait until the volume of downloads decreases
How I long for the salty sweet taste of victory in my mouth.
I see what you're saying about the licensing agreements. Its like receiving a contract with the Signature line on the front "Sign this before reading before the rest of it.."
type deal...:o)
You buy a laptop and turn it on.. Need a few 95 drivers and suddenly you lose your car, house and first born son!
I think this is a great step in the right direction. I was getting rather tired of having an OS shoved at me. If I wanted it I would go out and purchase it myself. I dont want to be FORCED to use anything....
This sounds almost dead-on identical to a program at the Univ. of North Texas in Denton (tiny little town a little north of the metastasizing cancer that is Dallas-FortWorth) called TAMS (Texas Academy of Math and Science). I went there, graduated in 96. I've heard of other programs that are _similar_ in other states, but so far those I've read about didn't involve taking actual college courses, but instead courses lying somewhere between 'advanced' HS courses and collegiate courses....
I think TAMS is unique out of the 'come to college two years early' programs in that not only does it emphasize math/science it also tries to give it's graduates a good grounding in the humanities (which although it may not translate into $ does make you a broader thinker and deeper person IMHO). Most other programs seem to be either all Science/Math or all Humanities with very little of the other....
Oh, and the state pretty much pays for everything at TAMS, hehe... Too bad the food mainly sucked at the cafeterias!;^) (To fellow tamsters: remember the food @ Bruce? Two words: chicken tetrazinni (sp?). tetra = 4 = the number of times that same chicken has been on the serving line in 'other incarnations')
(At least all my "take something besides what your taking in Nat. Sci." req would be done... I've enough chem credit to choke a goat (Better living through chemistry my sphincter, try taking pchem and enjoying yourself (if you do, please seek help)! hehehe:^) ).)
I've had quite a bit (i.e. too damn much, haha) of stat experience in various courses here at good old U. Texas. Statistics is an infinitely malleable field because most folks don't understand how to interpret the results and dishonest practictioners take advantage of this. Two people who both know stat can discuss something, indeed are forced to discuss something (something = anything being considered in a statistical light), at a far more rigourous level.
That being said, a quote from Mark Twain seems appropriate: (paraphrasing slightly due to poor memory on my part) "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics."
Dude, the wrongness inherent in this post is just crazy! I hope you're just kidding or being sarcastic or laying some flame-bait out on the trout-line, because if not you are smoking the crack pipe for sure... My urge to say you're about as completely wrong as it is possible to be is fighting against my ingrained sense of relativism *urgh!**grrr!*(fighting noises coming from inside head)*snappy sound* damn it that's just wrong!:^)
I recently Produced and Directed a play based on GEB, called "Prelude, Ant Fugue". It included two Acts and the scenes were Three Part Invention, Solo for unaccompanied Achilles, Crab Canon and Prelude, Ant Fugue. When I asked Prof. Hofstadter even he tried to convince me that P,AF was too hard to present on stage! lol.
I guess all this makes me a fan:-)
I even have Escher prints up in my house. After all he is my favourite artist. In any case, I've got a print of Mosaic II hanging on my wall, in plain view from here:-)
The trouble with Americans....
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Posted by Bombay:
Though you may be right about what you said, you've got to realise that different situations have different solutions.
The problem with the US is that there are far too many people ready to object even to a good cause. Hopefully more kids wont die for such stupidity...
Re: I know why kids kill.
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God, I know this sounds cliched, but I sympathise with you. I never had such problems so may be I don't know what it really feels like, but this shouldn't happen to anyone...
the bell curve theory is just that. and anyway, it has absolutely _nothing_ to do with the distribution of taxation. PR is the one to thank for the trickle down theory, and the fact that proportionally more wealth is currently controlled by the top few percent of this nation than ever before.
If you're no good at math then you shouldn't major in cs. You should major in software engineering or something else, or better yet not go to college at all. CS _is_ math, and I know lots of people who are good at math, and can still program quite well. I hate it when people perpetually whine about things being to hard. You just make it so everyone's incompetant. It's ok to be stupid; just don't drag people down to your level.
And as far as proving "all unicorns are pink," you are sadly mistaken about the utility of math. If you don't understand all the math behind an algorithm, then you're nothing but an overglorified typist.
You just don't get it. We don't want to be the homecoming king/queen. We have never wanted that. All the geeks want to do is be able to do their stuff in their group without being fucked with by the jocks, cheerleaders, yuppies, ect. I was less than a year into highschool when I quit and got my GED. I couldn't take it anymore. Every day I would get up, and feel sick. If I didn't feel sick I made myself feel sick just so I wouldn't have to go to that prison called high school.
When I was forced to go I was constantly tormented, people like you would get up during your little fucking lameass prep rallys and go "lets all be equal and have fun, GO FOOTBALL TEAM" , never once mentioning the kids that sucked at sports (me) but could rip a pc apart and put it back together in a matter of hours, or use something other than AOL for internet. NEVER, NOT FUCKING ONCE WERE WE MENTIONED, NOT ONCE. Then when it was all over the same people that were up on stage, talking about how we were all "equal" (damn do I love that bullshit of a word) were bashing me and my geek friends. WTF is up with that. Where's the equality now? huh?
Thats why these kids snapped, they were sick of it. They couldn't get up another day and be called names like "fuckup", "queer", "freak", ect. It was too much, trust me I know. But no one seems to understand. They all think games or their own problems made them insane, but most likely it was this stupid social system. It's almost always the system.
Then someone like you bothers to come on here going "we don't have clics" and "I went from class loser to Homecoming Queen" thinking your cool. You not cool, your a trader. You sold out to this very system geeks and loser have been fighting then you bother to come on a geek website and tell us we should do the same. You have no right. People like you are part of the problem, not the solution, wanting people to become something we're not. Until attitudes like yours change there's gonna be alot more problems, instead of solutions, in the future.
Add this up to the hellhole that is the American education system. It's amazing that this is just now being reported, seeing as how I've read the exact same thing in a Michael Chrichton novel--Rising Sun--that was published in _1992_! I think we can put the media at the top of a very long list of things screwed up with this country.
I can't believe these high schools! My school must have matured way before it's time. We no longer have "clics" and the cool group is made up of the kind people. Kids just need to realize the cool people are not who they seem to be. The problem will never end. Someone will always feel left out. The real problem that no one seemed to notice is the students could not get out of the school building. Luckly, I go to a rather small school with less "security" and I could get out of any room. Students need to be taught they will make it further if they are always nice and being mean does not make you look cool. Hey with that attitude I went from class loser to Homecoming Queen...Voted in by the "geeks and nerds" of course. And by the way PLEASE don't label Jocks as always being mean...people are who they are not what they do!!!
You can pay one really knowledge person (college educated) to do one big job, or you can pay 3 people with 2 year degrees or less to do the same work. The other three people will not receive health care, or future training to climb the corporate ladder. Many companies rant and rave about wanted proper help but don't want to shell out the cash to train people with BS degrees.
Server-side? They're just trying to save face
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Posted by kenmcneil:
That's what I figured. The idea that there was any true restraints on its application was unbelievable.
This wont hurt the Rio specifically or the idea of the Rio in general or even mp3s. Anyone interested in music, any music rags, and any partially underground internet sites will spread the word of the uncopy protected mp3s, and they will turn out to be the casette tape of the digital age. You don't have to be sophisticated to sniff these things out, so John Q Public won't even be affected by this change.
Yes, the old mp3s will run with this new software, so its not a big deal at all. I think Diamond would just rather get back to its real work, and put a fig leaf over the Rio in hopes that the recording industry will have an aneurism or something.
ATT sold the Unix code to Novell a while back and the trademark to X/Open (I believe). Novell renamed the code UnixWare and eventually wound up selling it to SCO. That's why SCO has OpenServer and UnixWare. From what I understand, OpenServer is the existing (heavily reworked) remnents of their (and Microsoft's) Xenix product. They're trying to phase out OpenServer (understandibly) and moving to UnixWare (while working on Gemini).
Eh, all that will do is get rid of products like the Rio, and such. But chances are, anyone that wants one, has already bought one.
And If you are talking about RIAA 'Industry' support, which I don't think you are, their support wasn't needed to begin with. MP3 won't be killed by the likes of them, or even by Diamond. The MP3 codec wasn't developed so the record companies could more eaisly make money...
Our long-term goal is to deliver a universal solution beyond just servers, and advance the technology to the client.
From my knowledge of Java (one year of heavy development) I see no reason why they would develop the VM for just server side applications. As far as I know once you have developed the JNI code it can be ported to any VM. So why is Sun placing this restriction on HotSpot, or is it just a name game?
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Posted by DonR:
Think of all the money you'll save not having to buy 3d hardware.
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Donald Roeber
Posted by The Hunter:
:-)
I laughed and laughed when I checked that chapter with the acrostic!
Posted by cicijay:
I have found a site that lists mirrors for red hat. I don't know about you but the list of sites at redhat's mirrors seem very busy. This list has many different mirror sites listed and I found one that flew through the download (ftp.real-time.com). The site listing those mirrors is http://www.multithread.co.uk/mirrors.html. Hope that helps for those of us that don't want to wait until the volume of downloads decreases
Posted by Akira410:
... :o)
.. Need a few 95 drivers and suddenly you lose your car, house and first born son!
Ahh, World Domination.
How I long for the salty sweet taste of victory in my mouth.
I see what you're saying about the licensing agreements. Its like receiving a contract with the Signature line on the front "Sign this before reading before the rest of it.."
type deal
You buy a laptop and turn it on
Posted by Akira410:
....
I think this is a great step in the right direction. I was getting rather tired of having an OS shoved at me. If I wanted it I would go out and purchase it myself. I dont want to be FORCED to use anything
Just my 0.02 worth =)
Posted by Volkadav:
;^) (To fellow tamsters: remember the food @ Bruce? Two words: chicken tetrazinni (sp?). tetra = 4 = the number of times that same chicken has been on the serving line in 'other incarnations')
This sounds almost dead-on identical to a program at the Univ. of North Texas in Denton (tiny little town a little north of the metastasizing cancer that is Dallas-FortWorth) called TAMS (Texas Academy of Math and Science). I went there, graduated in 96. I've heard of other programs that are _similar_ in other states, but so far those I've read about didn't involve taking actual college courses, but instead courses lying somewhere between 'advanced' HS courses and collegiate courses....
I think TAMS is unique out of the 'come to college two years early' programs in that not only does it emphasize math/science it also tries to give it's graduates a good grounding in the humanities (which although it may not translate into $ does make you a broader thinker and deeper person IMHO). Most other programs seem to be either all Science/Math or all Humanities with very little of the other....
Oh, and the state pretty much pays for everything at TAMS, hehe... Too bad the food mainly sucked at the cafeterias!
Posted by Volkadav:
:^) ).)
As said by another fellow: Wow.
I wonder if they take transfer credit from UT?
;^)
(At least all my "take something besides what your taking in Nat. Sci." req would be done... I've enough chem credit to choke a goat (Better living through chemistry my sphincter, try taking pchem and enjoying yourself (if you do, please seek help)! hehehe
Posted by Army No. Va.:
And will support industry HW based on that processor architecture.
Posted by Volkadav:
I've had quite a bit (i.e. too damn much, haha) of stat experience in various courses here at good old U. Texas. Statistics is an infinitely malleable field because most folks don't understand how to interpret the results and dishonest practictioners take advantage of this. Two people who both know stat can discuss something, indeed are forced to discuss something (something = anything being considered in a statistical light), at a far more rigourous level.
That being said, a quote from Mark Twain seems appropriate: (paraphrasing slightly due to poor memory on my part) "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics."
:^)
Posted by Volkadav:
:^)
Dude, the wrongness inherent in this post is just crazy! I hope you're just kidding or being sarcastic or laying some flame-bait out on the trout-line, because if not you are smoking the crack pipe for sure... My urge to say you're about as completely wrong as it is possible to be is fighting against my ingrained sense of relativism *urgh!**grrr!*(fighting noises coming from inside head)*snappy sound* damn it that's just wrong!
Posted by The Hunter:
:-)
:-)
Wonderful book!
I recently Produced and Directed a play based on GEB, called "Prelude, Ant Fugue". It included two Acts and the scenes were Three Part Invention, Solo for unaccompanied Achilles, Crab Canon and Prelude, Ant Fugue. When I asked Prof. Hofstadter even he tried to convince me that P,AF was too hard to present on stage! lol.
I guess all this makes me a fan
I even have Escher prints up in my house. After all he is my favourite artist. In any case, I've got a print of Mosaic II hanging on my wall, in plain view from here
Though you may be right about what you said, you've got to realise that different situations have different solutions.
The problem with the US is that there are far too many people ready to object even to a good cause. Hopefully more kids wont die for such stupidity...
Posted by Bombay:
God, I know this sounds cliched, but I sympathise with you. I never had such problems so may be I don't know what it really feels like, but this shouldn't happen to anyone...
Posted by The Mongolian Barbecue:
the bell curve theory is just that. and anyway, it has absolutely _nothing_ to do with the distribution of taxation. PR is the one to thank for the trickle down theory, and the fact that proportionally more wealth is currently controlled by the top few percent of this nation than ever before.
Posted by The Mongolian Barbecue:
If you're no good at math then you shouldn't major in cs. You should major in software engineering or something else, or better yet not go to college at all. CS _is_ math, and I know lots of people who are good at math, and can still program quite well. I hate it when people perpetually whine about things being to hard. You just make it so everyone's incompetant. It's ok to be stupid; just don't drag people down to your level.
And as far as proving "all unicorns are pink," you are sadly mistaken about the utility of math. If you don't understand all the math behind an algorithm, then you're nothing but an overglorified typist.
Posted by Pimpbot3k:
You just don't get it. We don't want to be the homecoming king/queen. We have never wanted that. All the geeks want to do is be able to do their stuff in their group without being fucked with by the jocks, cheerleaders, yuppies, ect. I was less than a year into highschool when I quit and got my GED. I couldn't take it anymore. Every day I would get up, and feel sick. If I didn't feel sick I made myself feel sick just so I wouldn't have to go to that prison called high school.
When I was forced to go I was constantly tormented, people like you would get up during your little fucking lameass prep rallys and go "lets all be equal and have fun, GO FOOTBALL TEAM" , never once mentioning the kids that sucked at sports (me) but could rip a pc apart and put it back together in a matter of hours, or use something other than AOL for internet. NEVER, NOT FUCKING ONCE WERE WE MENTIONED, NOT ONCE. Then when it was all over the same people that were up on stage, talking about how we were all "equal" (damn do I love that bullshit of a word) were bashing me and my geek friends. WTF is up with that. Where's the equality now? huh?
Thats why these kids snapped, they were sick of it. They couldn't get up another day and be called names like "fuckup", "queer", "freak", ect. It was too much, trust me I know. But no one seems to understand. They all think games or their own problems made them insane, but most likely it was this stupid social system. It's almost always the system.
Then someone like you bothers to come on here going "we don't have clics" and "I went from class loser to Homecoming Queen" thinking your cool. You not cool, your a trader. You sold out to this very system geeks and loser have been fighting then you bother to come on a geek website and tell us we should do the same. You have no right. People like you are part of the problem, not the solution, wanting people to become something we're not. Until attitudes like yours change there's gonna be alot more problems, instead of solutions, in the future.
Thanks for your time, Pimpbot3k out
Posted by Terpfen:
Add this up to the hellhole that is the American education system. It's amazing that this is just now being reported, seeing as how I've read the exact same thing in a Michael Chrichton novel--Rising Sun--that was published in _1992_! I think we can put the media at the top of a very long list of things screwed up with this country.
Posted by ju:
I can't believe these high schools! My school must have matured way before it's time. We no longer have "clics" and the cool group is made up of the kind people. Kids just need to realize the cool people are not who they seem to be.
The problem will never end. Someone will always feel left out. The real problem that no one seemed to notice is the students could not get out of the school building. Luckly, I go to a rather small school with less "security" and I could get out of any room.
Students need to be taught they will make it further if they are always nice and being mean does not make you look cool.
Hey with that attitude I went from class loser to Homecoming Queen...Voted in by the "geeks and nerds" of course.
And by the way PLEASE don't label Jocks as always being mean...people are who they are not what they do!!!
Posted by spimp:
Think about this:
You can pay one really knowledge person (college educated) to do one big job, or you can pay 3 people with 2 year degrees or less to do the same work. The other three people will not receive health care, or future training to climb the corporate ladder. Many companies rant and rave about wanted proper help but don't want to shell out the cash to train people with BS degrees.
Posted by kenmcneil:
That's what I figured. The idea that there was any true restraints on its application was unbelievable.
Posted by Phantom of the Operating Syste:
This wont hurt the Rio specifically or the idea of the Rio in general or even mp3s. Anyone interested in music, any music rags, and any partially underground internet sites will spread the word of the uncopy protected mp3s, and they will turn out to be the casette tape of the digital age. You don't have to be sophisticated to sniff these things out, so John Q Public won't even be affected by this change.
Yes, the old mp3s will run with this new software, so its not a big deal at all. I think Diamond would just rather get back to its real work, and put a fig leaf over the Rio in hopes that the recording industry will have an aneurism or something.
-phantom
Posted by the order of His Majesty:
ATT sold the Unix code to Novell a while back and the trademark to X/Open (I believe).
Novell renamed the code UnixWare and eventually wound up selling it to SCO.
That's why SCO has OpenServer and UnixWare.
From what I understand, OpenServer is the existing (heavily reworked) remnents of their (and Microsoft's) Xenix product.
They're trying to phase out OpenServer (understandibly) and moving to UnixWare (while working on Gemini).
Posted by Dante_Aliegri:
Eh, all that will do is get rid of products like the Rio, and such. But chances are, anyone that wants one, has already bought one.
And If you are talking about RIAA 'Industry' support, which I don't think you are, their support wasn't needed to begin with.
MP3 won't be killed by the likes of them, or even by Diamond. The MP3 codec wasn't developed so the record companies could more eaisly make money...
Posted by ButtGoblin:
f _the_Fates.mp3
http://theforce.net/multimedia/sound/epi/Duel_o
quality kinda sux tho
Our long-term goal is to deliver a universal solution beyond just servers, and advance the technology to the client.
From my knowledge of Java (one year of heavy development) I see no reason why they would develop the VM for just server side applications. As far as I know once you have developed the JNI code it can be ported to any VM. So why is Sun placing this restriction on HotSpot, or is it just a name game?