I might have a slight hurdle learning the syntax, but already knowing how to code and knowing several languages (BASIC, FORTRAN, C, C++, C#, Java, PL/SQL, T-SQL, etc.) means that a loop is a loop whether it's a FOR i=1 to 15 type loop or a for(int i=1; i [lt] 15; i++) type loop.
Everything you said is true. This was just an unwelcome reminder of exactly how far it's fallen. I mean, suppose you went to a website for grape fanatics and read a story about a fungus that affected all grapes and its implications for wine making. You would have to kind of assume that it would also have an effect on grape juice, jelly, and other products. Can't we expect at least that level of general knowledge on here?
BTW, I'm listening to My Chemical Romance and wearing Vans. I have a brother?
The attack obviously means such VPN tunnels can be spliced into. This means anything that can be reached by such tunnels, even if the endpoints concerned cannot be remotely accessed by any other means, are essentially wide open.
Wouldn't the endpoints treat the inserted packet as invalid and drop (and may log) it? Besides that, although I can't speak for a given IP-over-DNS implementation, I know that OpenVPN is typically set up to require certificate authentication. When my home router tries to build a tunnel to the office, they check each other's certs before proceeding. If such a mechanism holds for the DNS-based VPN, I'd think that a worst case scenario would be a denial of service as the initial authentication would fail.
When I started running my own MUSH servers - I had 7 going at one point - I didn't trust external DNS servers to be safe, reliable or up-to-date, so simply zone dumped all the regulars onto my own DNS and ignored the outside DNS tree entirely.
If you are reading this on Slashdot, and you are just now realizing that DNS exploits affect more than just the web, then get the hell out of here. Shoo. Leave your card at the door.
I got an extended warranty on my the last monitor I bought, had it repaired three times and replaced once at no cost, sounds like an exception to me.
I got the same services on a Samsung CRT monitor without buying the extended warranty. They replaced it - free shipping and all - 30 months after I bought it.
Basketball got laxer and laxer on obvious rules violations (watch any of the running leaps a "slam dunk" guy takes).
I sure couldn't argue that. When I played basketball as a kid, I seem to remember that you had to occasionally dribble the ball. That is apparently optional now.
so why should i care if someone increases the world record in some field from 9.125 to 9.124 seconds ?
You are truly unable to appreciate watching the best person in the world in their particular field do what it is they excel at? What a sad, small life you lead.
Now I'm sure that no Slashdot reader will intentionally watch any "sport" that has judges determine the winner, but their wives/girlfriends might seize control of the remote because they want to know who is the best at that ribbon twirling thing.
First, if you can't appreciate the beauty and artistry in judged events, then you're missing something wonderful. From the guys doing iron crosses on the rings (which makes my shoulders hurt sympathetically) to the girls seeming to ignore gravity, there's something there to move any soul.
Second, my wife was a college swimmer and completed Army Airborne training. She's about as into ribbon twirling things as I presume girls are into you.
If I'm trying to download The Station's The Fog but I get Radiohead's completely different song by the same name instead, why should Radiohead's label be able to sue me?
That's like trying for self-flagellation but getting kicked in the butt instead. Haven't you been punished enough?
Say you are in a situation where you can't connect your laptop to a network, but you can find the MAC address for a computer that is connected to that same network.
Don't tell anyone, but this is the preferred way of not having to pay $15 a day for Internet access at crappy motels and Starbucks. Who cares if you and your, umm, sponsor both get each others packets? Your IP stack will ignore the ones it didn't expect.
I think we're saying the same thing. I mentioned that format shifting is fine, as are fair use exceptions. When I said "copying", I was referring to "copying to another person".
And what happens when your amateur COBOL hackers bork a live, production system upon which tens of thousands of people rely on for their paychecks?
Yeah, because it takes 20 years experience to change:
LET MINIMWAGE HAVE SIXDOLLARS AND FIFTYFIVECENTS
or however you say it in COBOL. If it takes more tweaking than that, haul the original programmers out of retirement. Then, line them up and shoot them. It's the merciful thing.
...just in time for no one to care anymore. There are a few people who specifically want WinCE so they can sync with Outlook, but everyone else seems to fall into "it's a phone - I make phone calls (and maybe text)" or "IPHONE MUST HAVE".
Be careful, as this adds a lot of brightness to the music. You absolutely must follow up with a green marker to restore the vanilla and mossy undertones.
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Like KDESvn?
I might have a slight hurdle learning the syntax, but already knowing how to code and knowing several languages (BASIC, FORTRAN, C, C++, C#, Java, PL/SQL, T-SQL, etc.) means that a loop is a loop whether it's a FOR i=1 to 15 type loop or a for(int i=1; i [lt] 15; i++) type loop.
Except that the second one only goes to 14.
Everything you said is true. This was just an unwelcome reminder of exactly how far it's fallen. I mean, suppose you went to a website for grape fanatics and read a story about a fungus that affected all grapes and its implications for wine making. You would have to kind of assume that it would also have an effect on grape juice, jelly, and other products. Can't we expect at least that level of general knowledge on here?
BTW, I'm listening to My Chemical Romance and wearing Vans. I have a brother?
The attack obviously means such VPN tunnels can be spliced into. This means anything that can be reached by such tunnels, even if the endpoints concerned cannot be remotely accessed by any other means, are essentially wide open.
Wouldn't the endpoints treat the inserted packet as invalid and drop (and may log) it? Besides that, although I can't speak for a given IP-over-DNS implementation, I know that OpenVPN is typically set up to require certificate authentication. When my home router tries to build a tunnel to the office, they check each other's certs before proceeding. If such a mechanism holds for the DNS-based VPN, I'd think that a worst case scenario would be a denial of service as the initial authentication would fail.
When I started running my own MUSH servers - I had 7 going at one point - I didn't trust external DNS servers to be safe, reliable or up-to-date, so simply zone dumped all the regulars onto my own DNS and ignored the outside DNS tree entirely.
I bow to your superior tinfoil. ;-)
I propose COBOL on Rails. Any takers?
I'd suggest aiming for COBOL on Hoveround.
Nah. Those are just the requirements for upmodding. You can still hang around otherwise, but we might not talk to you.
Exactly. Wouldn't want to educate anyone, would we?
I doubt that the union of "people who think the web is the Internet" and "people who discover Slashdot and stick around" is more than a handful.
If you are reading this on Slashdot, and you are just now realizing that DNS exploits affect more than just the web, then get the hell out of here. Shoo. Leave your card at the door.
I got an extended warranty on my the last monitor I bought, had it repaired three times and replaced once at no cost, sounds like an exception to me.
I got the same services on a Samsung CRT monitor without buying the extended warranty. They replaced it - free shipping and all - 30 months after I bought it.
Basketball got laxer and laxer on obvious rules violations (watch any of the running leaps a "slam dunk" guy takes).
I sure couldn't argue that. When I played basketball as a kid, I seem to remember that you had to occasionally dribble the ball. That is apparently optional now.
Boxing falls into both categories depending on the outcome.
Especially when it involves cats.
so why should i care if someone increases the world record in some field from 9.125 to 9.124 seconds ?
You are truly unable to appreciate watching the best person in the world in their particular field do what it is they excel at? What a sad, small life you lead.
Now I'm sure that no Slashdot reader will intentionally watch any "sport" that has judges determine the winner, but their wives/girlfriends might seize control of the remote because they want to know who is the best at that ribbon twirling thing.
First, if you can't appreciate the beauty and artistry in judged events, then you're missing something wonderful. From the guys doing iron crosses on the rings (which makes my shoulders hurt sympathetically) to the girls seeming to ignore gravity, there's something there to move any soul.
Second, my wife was a college swimmer and completed Army Airborne training. She's about as into ribbon twirling things as I presume girls are into you.
Will this all become moot once ipv6 assigns everyone a static IP?
IPv6 - by default - assigns an address based on your MAC. DHCPv6, MAC spoofing, and good ol' static configuration can result in a different address.
If I'm trying to download The Station's The Fog but I get Radiohead's completely different song by the same name instead, why should Radiohead's label be able to sue me?
That's like trying for self-flagellation but getting kicked in the butt instead. Haven't you been punished enough?
Say you are in a situation where you can't connect your laptop to a network, but you can find the MAC address for a computer that is connected to that same network.
Don't tell anyone, but this is the preferred way of not having to pay $15 a day for Internet access at crappy motels and Starbucks. Who cares if you and your, umm, sponsor both get each others packets? Your IP stack will ignore the ones it didn't expect.
A dhcp server can't match ip to mac ?
Not if doesn't log. Furthermore, what they're really saying is that it can't match IP to ephemeral MAC that may or may not have been spoofed.
Out of curiosity, what did you perceive as the difference?
I think we're saying the same thing. I mentioned that format shifting is fine, as are fair use exceptions. When I said "copying", I was referring to "copying to another person".
I could goto California tomorrow
For some reason, I believe that.
And what happens when your amateur COBOL hackers bork a live, production system upon which tens of thousands of people rely on for their paychecks?
Yeah, because it takes 20 years experience to change:
or however you say it in COBOL. If it takes more tweaking than that, haul the original programmers out of retirement. Then, line them up and shoot them. It's the merciful thing.
Look at how Windows CE eventually beat Palm.
...just in time for no one to care anymore. There are a few people who specifically want WinCE so they can sync with Outlook, but everyone else seems to fall into "it's a phone - I make phone calls (and maybe text)" or "IPHONE MUST HAVE".
It's both a floor wax and a dessert topping!
Ok, lets assume its a 128-bit hash. For a 1GB file how many combinations of 1GB will produce the same hash?
2^((1024^3)-128).
Be careful, as this adds a lot of brightness to the music. You absolutely must follow up with a green marker to restore the vanilla and mossy undertones.
-- Audrey O'File