Under the Washington State constitution this law will get thrown out. There's already been a Washington State Supreme court case in the 1930's about this very subject. Basically you can't tax one set of people without taxing the other.
RTICLE VII REVENUE AND TAXATION
SECTION 1 TAXATION. The power of taxation shall never be suspended, surrendered or contracted away. All taxes shall be uniform upon the same class of property within the territorial limits of the authority levying the tax and shall be levied and collected for public purposes only. The word "property" as used herein shall mean and include everything, whether tangible or intangible, subject to ownership. All real estate shall constitute one class: Provided, That the legislature may tax mines and mineral resources and lands devoted to reforestation by either a yield tax or an ad valorem tax at such rate as it may fix, or by both. Such property as the legislature may by general laws provide shall be exempt from taxation. Property of the United States and of the state, counties, school districts and other municipal corporations, and credits secured by property actually taxed in this state, not exceeding in value the value of such property, shall be exempt from taxation. The legislature shall have power, by appropriate legislation, to exempt personal property to the amount of fifteen thousand ($15,000.00) dollars for each head of a family liable to assessment and taxation under the provisions of the laws of this state of which the individual is the actual bona fide owner.
After reading that, it became clear to me, that the EFF are wrong in this case. There was much more evidence in there that any reasonable computer person would say, yes that's probable cause.
This is what the article actually says: "The software, which will go on sale on Real.com and Amazon.com this month, will allow buyers to make one copy of a DVD".
Mayor Nichols and the Seattle City Counsel are notorious for making stupid decisions based on no evidence. Between the high taxes, and these WTF decisions, I moved out of Seattle.
I have a PS3, I like my PS3, I went to a friends house to play games on his 360, how can you stand the noise that thing makes? I felt like I was in a server room at work.
Because the bill passed, while not a good bill, is STILL better than the present law. Obama, and others, tried to strip the immunity. It didn't work. So given the choice between maintaining the status quo (worse) or accepting that the telecom companies have bought out a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate, Obama voted for the bill so AT LEAST executive power is restrained a bit more.
Obama chose 'something' over 'nothing'.
The immunity is also not absolute, and if/when Obama is President, hopefully the issue can be revisited when a Bush veto doesn't have to be overcome (which is a mere 6 months from now).
I don't want McCain to win, but at the same time, someone has to have some principles somewhere along the line and I'm not giving up mine. I'm standing up for myself and not supporting Obama any longer.
I don't know about anyone else, but this sounds just as narrow-minded as any other single-issue voter. In a democracy, you will not always get everything you want. You need to weigh what's important, and what's possible, and try to get the best candidate you can. Sure, a multi-party system would help, but beyond that you sound no different than someone voting entirely on the issue of abortion, gay rights, or gun rights.
Sure, if you find FISA to be -the- issue, and it outweighs all other issues (environment, Iraq, foreign policy, etc), then go right ahead and throw your support elsewhere. Or if you think that his stance on FISA shows an endemic problem in his character, then go right ahead.
I think this is crap, too. And I'm really upset (in general, at first glance. I haven't read enough about it to have a full opinion) that Obama voted this way. But there other important aspects of his platform that I -do- agree with, and I won't let this one reasonably large flaw change that.
So you think supporting the constitution and expecting our leaders to actually uphold their oath of office is narrow minded? Maybe, but it's the right thing to do.
Their actions are directly aiding and abetting terrorists by reducing the freedoms that those terrorists despise
Hey there, the only people that believe that terrorists hate our freedoms are Ron Paul supporters, Bush supporter, FOX Noise viewers and the insane crazy homeless guy I always see lurking around the Subway hoping people will give him half the sandwich.
AlQaeda attacked us for having military bases in Islamic holy lands, they had been threatening the US for over 15 years over the fact. Funny, ever since we removed our bases from Saudi Arabia (Bush's pals you know), we haven't been attacked. Hrm cause and effect? Maybe, unless you support Paul or Bush then its just wild coincidence.
At least you and are are on the same side of the Ron Paul thing. He's the new Nader.
You might try getting your facts straight when you make blanket statements. Us Ron Paul supporters don't believe they hate us for our freedoms. And in fact have said many times they hate that we are over there, and that's why they attack us. You might want to try doing some research before you open your mouth and insert your foot into it.
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Just one of many more reasons to hate the Obama Administration.
Ron Paul 2012! Fuck this current government.
Judge should be disbarred, and disciplined.
Please tell me where you can go to jail for slander in the United States, then say that again with a straight face.
Under the Washington State constitution this law will get thrown out. There's already been a Washington State Supreme court case in the 1930's about this very subject. Basically you can't tax one set of people without taxing the other.
RTICLE VII
REVENUE AND TAXATION
SECTION 1 TAXATION. The power of taxation shall never be suspended, surrendered or contracted away. All taxes shall be uniform upon the same class of property within the territorial limits of the authority levying the tax and shall be levied and collected for public purposes only. The word "property" as used herein shall mean and include everything, whether tangible or intangible, subject to ownership. All real estate shall constitute one class: Provided, That the legislature may tax mines and mineral resources and lands devoted to reforestation by either a yield tax or an ad valorem tax at such rate as it may fix, or by both. Such property as the legislature may by general laws provide shall be exempt from taxation. Property of the United States and of the state, counties, school districts and other municipal corporations, and credits secured by property actually taxed in this state, not exceeding in value the value of such property, shall be exempt from taxation. The legislature shall have power, by appropriate legislation, to exempt personal property to the amount of fifteen thousand ($15,000.00) dollars for each head of a family liable to assessment and taxation under the provisions of the laws of this state of which the individual is the actual bona fide owner.
Meanwhile I can run frodo on my Moto Droid unrestricted.
http://www.eff.org/files/filenode/inresearchBC/EXHIBIT-A.pdf
After reading that, it became clear to me, that the EFF are wrong in this case. There was much more evidence in there that any reasonable computer person would say, yes that's probable cause.
I wouldn't only file a lawsuit, I would have filed sex crime related charges.
Most states sawed off shotguns are still illegal.
How does it violate the DMCA when it doesn't break the encryption?
Not true, you're identity does not get passed along.
This is what the article actually says:
"The software, which will go on sale on Real.com and Amazon.com this month, will allow buyers to make one copy of a DVD".
Does not say it will be on sale today.
So which Real Product currently has spyware in it?
Mayor Nichols and the Seattle City Counsel are notorious for making stupid decisions based on no evidence. Between the high taxes, and these WTF decisions, I moved out of Seattle.
I garantee you, you bought a new motherboard and new memory at least, on top of the 3 video cards and 2 processors.
I just put a 250 GB hard drive in mine. $89.
I have a PS3, I like my PS3, I went to a friends house to play games on his 360, how can you stand the noise that thing makes? I felt like I was in a server room at work.
Why not vote against it?
Because the bill passed, while not a good bill, is STILL better than the present law. Obama, and others, tried to strip the immunity. It didn't work. So given the choice between maintaining the status quo (worse) or accepting that the telecom companies have bought out a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate, Obama voted for the bill so AT LEAST executive power is restrained a bit more.
Obama chose 'something' over 'nothing'.
The immunity is also not absolute, and if/when Obama is President, hopefully the issue can be revisited when a Bush veto doesn't have to be overcome (which is a mere 6 months from now).
Really better? Did you actually read it?
I don't want McCain to win, but at the same time, someone has to have some principles somewhere along the line and I'm not giving up mine. I'm standing up for myself and not supporting Obama any longer.
I don't know about anyone else, but this sounds just as narrow-minded as any other single-issue voter. In a democracy, you will not always get everything you want. You need to weigh what's important, and what's possible, and try to get the best candidate you can. Sure, a multi-party system would help, but beyond that you sound no different than someone voting entirely on the issue of abortion, gay rights, or gun rights.
Sure, if you find FISA to be -the- issue, and it outweighs all other issues (environment, Iraq, foreign policy, etc), then go right ahead and throw your support elsewhere. Or if you think that his stance on FISA shows an endemic problem in his character, then go right ahead.
I think this is crap, too. And I'm really upset (in general, at first glance. I haven't read enough about it to have a full opinion) that Obama voted this way. But there other important aspects of his platform that I -do- agree with, and I won't let this one reasonably large flaw change that.
So you think supporting the constitution and expecting our leaders to actually uphold their oath of office is narrow minded? Maybe, but it's the right thing to do.
Their actions are directly aiding and abetting terrorists by reducing the freedoms that those terrorists despise
Hey there, the only people that believe that terrorists hate our freedoms are Ron Paul supporters, Bush supporter, FOX Noise viewers and the insane crazy homeless guy I always see lurking around the Subway hoping people will give him half the sandwich.
AlQaeda attacked us for having military bases in Islamic holy lands, they had been threatening the US for over 15 years over the fact. Funny, ever since we removed our bases from Saudi Arabia (Bush's pals you know), we haven't been attacked. Hrm cause and effect? Maybe, unless you support Paul or Bush then its just wild coincidence.
At least you and are are on the same side of the Ron Paul thing. He's the new Nader.
You might try getting your facts straight when you make blanket statements. Us Ron Paul supporters don't believe they hate us for our freedoms. And in fact have said many times they hate that we are over there, and that's why they attack us. You might want to try doing some research before you open your mouth and insert your foot into it.
he's a constitutional scholar - retroactive immunity is Ex Post Facto and unconstitutional under Article I Section 9 US Constitution.
so in effect that language in the bill is powerless and Obama knows it
So you're saying that his OATH to uphold the constitution is meaningless? Seriously he's made and oath, by voting for this, he's breaking that oath.
Why would you do something like that? The republicans are just as much at fault for this as democrats.
Ah yes, only programmers make up a development life cycle. Just forget about project managers, STE's, SDET's etc.
Funny calling someone a pussy while posting Anonymously. I bet you don't get the irony in that do you.
Oh look it's another neo-con. Silly neo-con politics are for people with a brain.
Well according to their financial listings you're either really mis-informed, don't read much out side your box, or just a plain liar.