Actually, we're just trying to enforce our trademark on Open Source. If you don't like our trademark or our ownership of it, use a different term, like Shared Source, or Source Available. If you want to use the term that we have spent years and dollars promoting, then you have to do it under our terms (which are very reasonable).
You would be unwise to call it Open Source if it doesn't comply with the Open Source Definition. Otherwise you will confuse your customers. Most people expect that certain set of rights, and if they don't get them, they might, say, accuse you of fradulent advertising. Or worse, they might go to your competition.
You make two mistakes here. I speculate that the first one, expecting a registered trademark, comes from you being European. In Europe, trademarks are granted by the government. In the USA, trademarks are granted by use, and merely recognized by the government.
Your second mistake is to think that the law is everything. The market has a say in this matter as well. People expect "Open Source" software to have all the rights required by the Open Source Definition. If they don't, they will be surprised and confused. It's never a good idea to surprise or confuse your customers... because they go to your competition.
Logic is absent from your post. First you say that Goodmail stands in the shoes of the person most likely to be sued if they send spam, then you say that Goodmail is going to spam. How does the one follow from the other?
Oh, I see. You're using CRAP (Challenge / Response Authorization Protocol.) Earthlink uses a similar system that works like CRAP. CRAP works really well to keep spam and other email out of your inbox.
This is one to one transactional email. Think "Ebay auction notices" or "Bank statements". It's confidential customized email not suitable for an RSS feed.
The only people using this will be spammers with money looking to get around your spam filter.
The damage that ISPs will suffer by purposefully injecting spam into the normal email stream FAR EXCEEDS any payments for doing so. Goodmail's business model is based on reducing the cost to senders of Confirmed Opt-In email. They know they're confirmed, Goodmail knows they're confirmed, the ISP knows they're confirmed, and the user knows they're confirmed. So what is the problem? The problem is that the sender doesn't want to suffer the time or risk of having to carefully craft their email so it gets past any spam filters, AND without having to require the user to set up a whitelisted address. The ISP doesn't want to have to maintain a whitelist because the bulk of the benefit would be doing to someone who isn't their customer. Goodmail's purpose is to certify senders, take their money, and pay the ISP for taking the time and effort to deliver the certified email.
Free markets work, really they do Bennett. If you're paying somebody for something, you expect to Actually Receive it. If you don't, you kick out that vendor and move on to the next. Yes, there may be some pain for the first few people who discover that, but we're a connected society. Reputations are like glass. One crack and it's gone.
They're going to run out of prefixes pretty quickly, since they're usually applied to powers of 1,000 rather than 2. And whatever happened to micro? milli (okay, mini), micro, nano, pico, femto, atto. I don't think there's anything past atto.
Why don't we ever tax government? I mean, you tax something to get less of it, right? To discourage people from doing it. So let's put a tax on government, because if ever there was a drug on the market, it's government.
X10 is teh sux0r. John Romkey (author of the SLIP RFC and co-founder of FTP Software) fitted out his New Hampshire house with X10, suffered with it for a couple of years, then ripped it out and replaced it with hardwire controls.
Aka NMT (non-metallic tubing). It's excellent stuff. Smurf for the baby-blue color. I have some from various places in my house to the mechanical room. Having run both (all) cat5 and (some) smurf tubing, I'd recommend using only smurf tubing. The subs are less likely to puncture it, and you have the freedom to run only the cabling you actually need. If you run wires, you have to have them everywhere you might ever want wires and then you have to terminate and test them. If you don't test them, how do you know they work?
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Actually, we're just trying to enforce our trademark on Open Source. If you don't like our trademark or our ownership of it, use a different term, like Shared Source, or Source Available. If you want to use the term that we have spent years and dollars promoting, then you have to do it under our terms (which are very reasonable).
You would be unwise to call it Open Source if it doesn't comply with the Open Source Definition. Otherwise you will confuse your customers. Most people expect that certain set of rights, and if they don't get them, they might, say, accuse you of fradulent advertising. Or worse, they might go to your competition.
In hindsight, you are correct. We were wrong to listen to Larry's advice in this regard.
You make two mistakes here. I speculate that the first one, expecting a registered trademark, comes from you being European. In Europe, trademarks are granted by the government. In the USA, trademarks are granted by use, and merely recognized by the government.
... because they go to your competition.
Your second mistake is to think that the law is everything. The market has a say in this matter as well. People expect "Open Source" software to have all the rights required by the Open Source Definition. If they don't, they will be surprised and confused. It's never a good idea to surprise or confuse your customers
The USA is a country. A country does not have emotions. Ask a wrong question and you get a wrong answer every time.
Free market economies with high taxation and a uniform culture.
In a free market, the customer regulates. In fact, by raising your concerns, you are doing it right now.
Wow. Wouldn't it be better to learn how to write rather than warning people that you can't write?
If it's as useless as you say, then the free market will punish them for their uselessness by putting them out out of business. No worries, mate!
You're right, where there is no free market, it cannot work. What does that tell you? That markets should be less regulated.
Logic is absent from your post. First you say that Goodmail stands in the shoes of the person most likely to be sued if they send spam, then you say that Goodmail is going to spam. How does the one follow from the other?
Oh, I see. You're using CRAP (Challenge / Response Authorization Protocol.) Earthlink uses a similar system that works like CRAP. CRAP works really well to keep spam and other email out of your inbox.
This is one to one transactional email. Think "Ebay auction notices" or "Bank statements". It's confidential customized email not suitable for an RSS feed.
The damage that ISPs will suffer by purposefully injecting spam into the normal email stream FAR EXCEEDS any payments for doing so. Goodmail's business model is based on reducing the cost to senders of Confirmed Opt-In email. They know they're confirmed, Goodmail knows they're confirmed, the ISP knows they're confirmed, and the user knows they're confirmed. So what is the problem? The problem is that the sender doesn't want to suffer the time or risk of having to carefully craft their email so it gets past any spam filters, AND without having to require the user to set up a whitelisted address. The ISP doesn't want to have to maintain a whitelist because the bulk of the benefit would be doing to someone who isn't their customer. Goodmail's purpose is to certify senders, take their money, and pay the ISP for taking the time and effort to deliver the certified email.
Free markets work, really they do Bennett. If you're paying somebody for something, you expect to Actually Receive it. If you don't, you kick out that vendor and move on to the next. Yes, there may be some pain for the first few people who discover that, but we're a connected society. Reputations are like glass. One crack and it's gone.
The water damages the road by getting unto the cracks in the asphault caused by the weight of the vehicle.
Oh .... to have some moderator points! "Laugh, it's funny"
He's dead, Jim.
They're going to run out of prefixes pretty quickly, since they're usually applied to powers of 1,000 rather than 2. And whatever happened to micro? milli (okay, mini), micro, nano, pico, femto, atto. I don't think there's anything past atto.
Shouldn't that be Xanatux ??
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"I live in Canada, and have to pay sales tax on every online purchase I make, I don't see why Americans think it should be any different."
No, you don't. That's why we think you're cute and adorable and keep you in cold storage to keep you out of trouble.
Why don't we ever tax government? I mean, you tax something to get less of it, right? To discourage people from doing it. So let's put a tax on government, because if ever there was a drug on the market, it's government.
X10 is teh sux0r. John Romkey (author of the SLIP RFC and co-founder of FTP Software) fitted out his New Hampshire house with X10, suffered with it for a couple of years, then ripped it out and replaced it with hardwire controls.
Aka NMT (non-metallic tubing). It's excellent stuff. Smurf for the baby-blue color. I have some from various places in my house to the mechanical room. Having run both (all) cat5 and (some) smurf tubing, I'd recommend using only smurf tubing. The subs are less likely to puncture it, and you have the freedom to run only the cabling you actually need. If you run wires, you have to have them everywhere you might ever want wires and then you have to terminate and test them. If you don't test them, how do you know they work?