Yup, 4-H needs your support. It's more than animals and plants. This year and last year my daughter (okay, so I'm bragging now--shoot me if I'm proud of my children) won the North/Central district public presentation contest. Last year was about paper-making and this was about Sheep to Shawl, past and present. Talked about how wool comes from sheep, yarn comes from wool, and sweaters come from wool.
-russ
The New York State Fair has a butter sculpture every year. It's usually the size of a refrigerator. A couple of years ago, it *was* a refrigerator, with milk, eggs, and cheese in it. A couple of kids were stealing the chocolate milk out of it, and had spilled some.
Yeah, and the whole thing was made out of butter.
-russ
Rumor has it that Dmitry spends his spare time when not breaking into ebooks writing spaming software. You know, for scraping web pages and spamming the addresses found there. Can anyone verify this rumor (No, I won't tell you where I heard it, because the idea is to get another independent source for it).
-russ
Go read the transcript. The ISP claims the right to terminate service with no notice, but allows 30 days to cure a breach of contract, but promises not to terminate service simply because of complaints where a user opted in but forgot. Problem is that they have affadavits from people who didn't opt in, but got the email anyway. Monsterhut is trying to assert that users opt to receive email related to their internet service simply by listing an address in whois. Monster is also trying to assert a lot of nonsense that the judge isn't putting up with.
-russ
In general, you must do what a judge tells you to do in relation to actions in his court. A judge has considerable latitude to throw you in jail for the rest of your life or until you comply with the judge's order. It's called contempt of court.
-russ
Lego will sell you two remote control tracked vehicles for $89. They call them Manas and are part of their Bionicle series. But nevermind that -- you get two IR remote control vehicles with three channels. Plus you can control them from the Mindstorms RCX.
-russ
Actually, you need better than optical line of sight. The radio waves need to have a clear space the shape of a lens. Otherwise you get multipath distortion. So yes, count on needing line of sight.
-russ
Yes, you can connect two WAP11's back to back, with one bridging from another network, and the other serving access to client machines. Best to use different channels for each of them.
-russ
Yes, indeed, this would be excellent to have, however it requires the use of a routing algorithm to determine where to send packets. I'm sure the Linksys folks are working on this right now.
-russ
Okay, so several people have pointed out that several such products have existed for a while. But they're obviously shooting for a low price point. The question is whether they can beat the price of a monochrome iPAQ 3150 ($150 at ebay with CF sleeve included plus $25 for CF Ethernet). Run Linux on it, install madplay and a user interface, and you can play off an NFS *or* Samba server.
Sorry to pick on just one thing that you wrote, but you're really attacking the crux of the matter. You are implying that nobody ever chooses to work a low-income job. This it total nonsense. Look at Barbara Eirenreich. She's a socialist who choose to work low-income jobs so that she could report on it. Are you saying that there was some element of coercion in her choice? What about somebody who prefers current consumption over investment in themselves, and has not gotten an education? They are in effect choosing to lock themselves out of all jobs that require that education. What about people who just don't want to work hard? What about people who want to work flexible hours? What about people who want to work at a job for a very short time? Are they not making choices?
Okay, so in the end you're really arguing that people shouldn't have to be responsible for the effects of their choices. But when you do that, you really *are* arguing against freedom, because the people who end up being responsible want to make the choices.
Freedom and responsibility are inextricably bound together.
-russ
It's important to look behind the big important words and figure out what's actually being argued.
You mean like "freedom" and "power"? Isn't that exactly what Eric did? Disagree with him if you want, but don't tell him to do what he has already done.
the use of government force on the behalf of copyright holders.
Nonsense. Where did Eric refer to copyrights? He said that people with flerbage have the right to ask other people to agree not to copy their software. And if that right is taken away, their flerbage is infringed.
-russ
Unlike you, some people have to be worried about being beaten, shot, or imprisoned. The last century, over a hundred million people were killed by their government. Given that perspective, it's reasonable to worry about being beaten, shot, or imprisoned.
-russ
Did Eric say anything about copyright? Doesn't copyright in fact infringe on his flerbage? So you'd expect him to be against copyright, right? And you'd expect RMS to be in favor of copyrights, because the GPL doesn't work in the absense of them. Don't think that copyright is the only thing standing in the way of 100% freely copyable software. If you have to sign a contract that says "I will not copy this software", then it's not freely copyable, but neither has anyone invoked copyright law.
-russ
p.s. If ESR is a right-winger, why is he against the war on drugs? Why does he opposed to the US having a standing army?
No, you don't understand. Something is an economic good if its use is exclusive. If only one of us can use something, then economics has something to say about how it's used. If, however, as is the case with software, we can both use it without either of us affecting the other, then it's not an economic good.
-russ
p.s. read more about economics.
The problem is that people aren't interested in providing freedom for other people. They're much more interested in helping themselves. So OSI pitches the freedom philosophy because of its benefits to *them*. But we're pitching freedom, make no mistake about it. Or perhaps I should say "flerbage"?
-russ
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Microsoft has no control over people who choose not to purchase anything from them.
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I certainly agree that some people in the Open Source Movement may have the same philosophy as those of us in the Free Software Movement.
Calling the whole thing the "Open Source community" leaves us Free Software folks out of the picture, and that's not really fair.
You're contradicting yourself. You're saying on the one hand that the philosopies of the Free Software Movement are a part of the Open Source Movement, but saying that we're somehow leaving you out! It's your actions that are divisive, not ours. We've never said that the FSF is not a part of the Open Source movement. You're the ones creating a split. The problem is that you think we're not pure enough.
-russ
The problem is that he's describing my philosophy. Seems to me that my philosophy is my philosophy, and if somebody says "your philosophy is X", I have the sole right to say "No, you're wrong," and be right when I say that. Confused yet?:)
-russ
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Yup, 4-H needs your support. It's more than animals and plants. This year and last year my daughter (okay, so I'm bragging now--shoot me if I'm proud of my children) won the North/Central district public presentation contest. Last year was about paper-making and this was about Sheep to Shawl, past and present. Talked about how wool comes from sheep, yarn comes from wool, and sweaters come from wool.
-russ
The New York State Fair has a butter sculpture every year. It's usually the size of a refrigerator. A couple of years ago, it *was* a refrigerator, with milk, eggs, and cheese in it. A couple of kids were stealing the chocolate milk out of it, and had spilled some.
Yeah, and the whole thing was made out of butter.
-russ
Rumor has it that Dmitry spends his spare time when not breaking into ebooks writing spaming software. You know, for scraping web pages and spamming the addresses found there. Can anyone verify this rumor (No, I won't tell you where I heard it, because the idea is to get another independent source for it).
-russ
Go read the transcript. The ISP claims the right to terminate service with no notice, but allows 30 days to cure a breach of contract, but promises not to terminate service simply because of complaints where a user opted in but forgot. Problem is that they have affadavits from people who didn't opt in, but got the email anyway. Monsterhut is trying to assert that users opt to receive email related to their internet service simply by listing an address in whois. Monster is also trying to assert a lot of nonsense that the judge isn't putting up with.
-russ
In general, you must do what a judge tells you to do in relation to actions in his court. A judge has considerable latitude to throw you in jail for the rest of your life or until you comply with the judge's order. It's called contempt of court.
-russ
Lego will sell you two remote control tracked vehicles for $89. They call them Manas and are part of their Bionicle series. But nevermind that -- you get two IR remote control vehicles with three channels. Plus you can control them from the Mindstorms RCX.
-russ
Ephraim is confused. He's thinking of 802.11 PC cards, not access points.
-russ
Actually, you need better than optical line of sight. The radio waves need to have a clear space the shape of a lens. Otherwise you get multipath distortion. So yes, count on needing line of sight.
-russ
Yes, you can connect two WAP11's back to back, with one bridging from another network, and the other serving access to client machines. Best to use different channels for each of them.
-russ
The only real solution for the problem WEP tries to solve is to use end-to-end encryption, e.g. ssh or ssl.
-russ
Yes, indeed, this would be excellent to have, however it requires the use of a routing algorithm to determine where to send packets. I'm sure the Linksys folks are working on this right now.
-russ
Okay, so several people have pointed out that several such products have existed for a while. But they're obviously shooting for a low price point. The question is whether they can beat the price of a monochrome iPAQ 3150 ($150 at ebay with CF sleeve included plus $25 for CF Ethernet). Run Linux on it, install madplay and a user interface, and you can play off an NFS *or* Samba server.
Isn't open source fun?
-russ
If I "choose" to work a low-income job,
Sorry to pick on just one thing that you wrote, but you're really attacking the crux of the matter. You are implying that nobody ever chooses to work a low-income job. This it total nonsense. Look at Barbara Eirenreich. She's a socialist who choose to work low-income jobs so that she could report on it. Are you saying that there was some element of coercion in her choice? What about somebody who prefers current consumption over investment in themselves, and has not gotten an education? They are in effect choosing to lock themselves out of all jobs that require that education. What about people who just don't want to work hard? What about people who want to work flexible hours? What about people who want to work at a job for a very short time? Are they not making choices?
Okay, so in the end you're really arguing that people shouldn't have to be responsible for the effects of their choices. But when you do that, you really *are* arguing against freedom, because the people who end up being responsible want to make the choices.
Freedom and responsibility are inextricably bound together.
-russ
You're arguing that people cannot agree to keep a secret. Is that what you intend?
-russ
It's important to look behind the big important words and figure out what's actually being argued.
You mean like "freedom" and "power"? Isn't that exactly what Eric did? Disagree with him if you want, but don't tell him to do what he has already done.
the use of government force on the behalf of copyright holders.
Nonsense. Where did Eric refer to copyrights? He said that people with flerbage have the right to ask other people to agree not to copy their software. And if that right is taken away, their flerbage is infringed.
-russ
I believe it is more important for everyone to have freedom, even if it does reduce individual freedom.
Spoken like a true fascist. No, really, that's what they used to say. Go read about it if you don't believe me.
-russ
Unlike you, some people have to be worried about being beaten, shot, or imprisoned. The last century, over a hundred million people were killed by their government. Given that perspective, it's reasonable to worry about being beaten, shot, or imprisoned.
-russ
How is it that you have no choice but I do? I do not run Microsoft products on my desktop.
-russ
He didn't assume it. That is in fact the very thing he doesn't assume. That's why he asks RMS at the end of that's what RMS indeed wants.
-russ
Did Eric say anything about copyright? Doesn't copyright in fact infringe on his flerbage? So you'd expect him to be against copyright, right? And you'd expect RMS to be in favor of copyrights, because the GPL doesn't work in the absense of them. Don't think that copyright is the only thing standing in the way of 100% freely copyable software. If you have to sign a contract that says "I will not copy this software", then it's not freely copyable, but neither has anyone invoked copyright law.
-russ
p.s. If ESR is a right-winger, why is he against the war on drugs? Why does he opposed to the US having a standing army?
No, you don't understand. Something is an economic good if its use is exclusive. If only one of us can use something, then economics has something to say about how it's used. If, however, as is the case with software, we can both use it without either of us affecting the other, then it's not an economic good.
-russ
p.s. read more about economics.
The problem is that people aren't interested in providing freedom for other people. They're much more interested in helping themselves. So OSI pitches the freedom philosophy because of its benefits to *them*. But we're pitching freedom, make no mistake about it. Or perhaps I should say "flerbage"?
-russ
Microsoft has no control over people who choose not to purchase anything from them.
-russ
You're contradicting yourself. You're saying on the one hand that the philosopies of the Free Software Movement are a part of the Open Source Movement, but saying that we're somehow leaving you out! It's your actions that are divisive, not ours. We've never said that the FSF is not a part of the Open Source movement. You're the ones creating a split. The problem is that you think we're not pure enough.
-russ
The problem is that he's describing my philosophy. Seems to me that my philosophy is my philosophy, and if somebody says "your philosophy is X", I have the sole right to say "No, you're wrong," and be right when I say that. Confused yet? :)
-russ