Yeah, with patronizing shit like this: "But at least we weren't black or women or gay"
If you don't think that affects your life in a significant way, I have to question your claims below. It's not "patronizing" to observe that society treats certain groups differently and that simply being in one of those groups can make the exact same situation better or worse. You can't solve a problem without acknowledging the problem exists, even if you ignore it really, really hard.
You really are incredibly stupid. As a gay man and a minority, let me tell you that I consider pricks like you worse than the Christian fundamentalists; at least they are honest about their bigotry, and unlike you, they at least occasionally manage to be polite.
Why would I be polite to sexist assholes? Being gay and a minority doesn't give you any special privilege to be either of those, so suddenly whipping it out as if it gives you a special place of power is pretty stupid and hypocritical (though I know you lack the self awareness to realize that). You really are an awful person and the fact that you were waiting to unleash this staggering hypocrisy as your "trump card" makes you pretty fucking dumb as well. I have to say the "no you're a bigot because I'm a gay minority!" defense takes a real mental midget to so utterly fail to see the holes and hypocrisy in.
I'm done with you. You were fun to insult at first and then try to educate but your entertainment value has been exhausted. It's time to kick you to the curb and move on.
A decent human being doesn't go around categorizing people by sex, gender, race, and sexual orientation,
Exactly. So maybe you should knock that shit off. I'm doing my best to eradicate it and you seem pretty proud of perpetuating it. This whole discussion started because you categorized one gender as inferior to the other. I'm glad you're finally coming to terms with that.
making assumptions about their lives,
So far the only actual assumption I have made about you is that you have an ingrained sexist wordlview, which is not really an assumption at this point at you could not possibly be more proud of it.
and offering his benevolent support for their fragile little selves.
While your fragility and insecurities are obvious and I'm sure quite traumatic for you, I have already noted them repeatedly and I'm not really feeling particularly benevolent towards you and certainly don't support you.
Wow, are you really that dense?
I was giving you the benefit of the doubt and not assuming you weren't just homophobic as well. But I guess if you're willing to denigrate an entire gender an orientation seems pretty insignificant by comparison. We're back to that "decent human beings don't categorize groups" again.
Sorry your white male upbringing was so rough. Mine wasn't. But at least we weren't black or women or gay (maybe you're gay, I don't know) or anything else that makes life more difficult. Understanding that doesn't make one a "radical" anything, it just makes one a decent human being.
No, it has not escaped my notice. I disagree with you and find your arguments generally lacking and not compelling. It also has not escaped my notice that you seem to be the tiresome sort who must have the last word even when adding nothing new. On that note, I leave you to that.
Oh you do, just just lack the self awareness or intellectual honesty to recognize or admit it.
Anyway, your link informs me that:
"The word pussy can also be used in a derogatory sense to refer to a male who is not considered sufficiently masculine (see Gender role). When used in this sense, it carries the implication of being easily fatigued, weak or cowardly."
Congratulations. Your own "defense" gets into the many gendered usages of the word and provides zero evidence for your original ridiculous claim that you were insulting someone by comparing them to a "pussy cat" (your original transparent lie which I haven't forgotten). You just keep digging yourself deeper and deeper. The cognitive dissonance as you try to rationalize is deafening.
By the definition of some radical feminists of either gender, that may be true, but I really don't care what they think or whether I offend them. They simply don't get invited to my parties again.
Dismissing someone as a "radical feminist" is not a defense to a valid critique. It's usually a sign of someone who doesn't like their privilege being questioned. But I guess the threat of missing out on whatever you do at your frat parties makes you feel powerful or whatever while you play beer pong and call each other pussy cats.
I'm not "using sexist language", we were discussing whether certain phrases are sexist or not.
You asserted that "pussy" is a "gender appropriate" insult for a man. "Pussy" is an insult rooted in sexism and is never appropriate ever. Therefore you are asserting that sexist insults are appropriate. QED
You know, I don't know what is wrong with you.
Of course you don't. You absolutely refuse to accept that something may be wrong with you so it must be someone else.
Are you really so dumb that you are incapable of talking about sexism without confusing that with "using sexist language"?
Are you incapable of not using sexist language? Because I'm talking about it while you're doing it (and still defending it).
That's in addition to your ignorant belief that calling a man a "pussy" has anything to do with sexism or women.
A gendered insult is by definitionsexist. Continuing this ridiculous fiction is really sad.
Are you not a native speaker? Or are you simply linguistically challenged?
It's rich that the guy claiming "pussy" is a totally gender neutral and innocent insult is using implied language skills as an insult now. If you want me to believe that you truly don't understand the connotations of the words you choose you really can't take the high ground of linguistic superiority. Your skills would have to be meager for your defense to be convincing. So which is it? Are you an innocent idiot or a guilty coward?
You can keep asserting it, but it doesn't make it true. You have been provided with numerous examples demonstrating your error. You have responded only with further assertions. At this point I can only assume you have nothing of substance to offer.
You really, really have no spine or critical thinking ability. You are using sexist language, portraying it as "appropriate" and when confronted on it play ridiculous semantic games to "defend" yourself rather than engaging in self evaluation like an adult. Grow up.
Only if your mind is in the gutter. When you insult a man with the term "pussy", you are calling him a "pussy cat", i.e. a small and timid creature. It has nothing to do with women or the other meaning of that slang word
What a pathetic, cowardly liar you are. You're not even brave enough to stand up for the insult you use. If you're going to use an insult, own it. Using an insult and then when challenged trying to pretend you meant something less insulting is really, really sad. But I guess that's to be expected for someone who thinks comparing someone else to a woman is an insult. Serious insecurities.
It's telling that you think calling someone a "pussy" is a "gender appropriate insult" for a man. That's a pretty sexist viewpoint in and of itself. I'm not sure you're in a position to be judging sexism.
Non-native speakers often confuse homophones like sheer and shear. Of course hypocritical idiots who incorrectly criticize others' grammar do as well, so I guess if you insist you're a native English speaker...
Zero for two, little guy. English is just not your strong suit no matter how desperately you want it to be. I recommend you refrain from weighing in on someone else's word usage in the future because this thread turned out really embarrassingly for you.
Legally they most certainly can, that was my point. If I give someone, say, a blank check that I have signed and say "fill in however much you need" that is perfectly legal and the bank teller won't bat an eye when they deposit it.
She was right to want to say something and discuss the issue, but stuff like that belongs somewhere that clearly labels it an op-ed piece.
I'm not sure what would be a more appropriate than a "blog" to post an opinion. The whole point of a blog section is to separate the articles from more rigorous topics.
It was not an article about science.
It was an article about the "industry" of science, a topic that is often covered by in that forum.
The ability of a PC to multitask is one of its most compelling features. I don't think many people would be willing to shut down everything they're doing just to play a game. Especially when they could just play on a console at that point. You may say, "but the only thing you're doing is playing a game" but it's not that simple. Even being able to tab over to a music player or a web browser is huge. Having to reboot your whole computer because you wanted to take a break and jump into a few rounds of CounterStrike or something is a deal breaker.
Yeah, with patronizing shit like this: "But at least we weren't black or women or gay"
If you don't think that affects your life in a significant way, I have to question your claims below. It's not "patronizing" to observe that society treats certain groups differently and that simply being in one of those groups can make the exact same situation better or worse. You can't solve a problem without acknowledging the problem exists, even if you ignore it really, really hard.
You really are incredibly stupid. As a gay man and a minority, let me tell you that I consider pricks like you worse than the Christian fundamentalists; at least they are honest about their bigotry, and unlike you, they at least occasionally manage to be polite.
Why would I be polite to sexist assholes? Being gay and a minority doesn't give you any special privilege to be either of those, so suddenly whipping it out as if it gives you a special place of power is pretty stupid and hypocritical (though I know you lack the self awareness to realize that). You really are an awful person and the fact that you were waiting to unleash this staggering hypocrisy as your "trump card" makes you pretty fucking dumb as well. I have to say the "no you're a bigot because I'm a gay minority!" defense takes a real mental midget to so utterly fail to see the holes and hypocrisy in.
I'm done with you. You were fun to insult at first and then try to educate but your entertainment value has been exhausted. It's time to kick you to the curb and move on.
A decent human being doesn't go around categorizing people by sex, gender, race, and sexual orientation,
Exactly. So maybe you should knock that shit off. I'm doing my best to eradicate it and you seem pretty proud of perpetuating it. This whole discussion started because you categorized one gender as inferior to the other. I'm glad you're finally coming to terms with that.
making assumptions about their lives,
So far the only actual assumption I have made about you is that you have an ingrained sexist wordlview, which is not really an assumption at this point at you could not possibly be more proud of it.
and offering his benevolent support for their fragile little selves.
While your fragility and insecurities are obvious and I'm sure quite traumatic for you, I have already noted them repeatedly and I'm not really feeling particularly benevolent towards you and certainly don't support you.
Wow, are you really that dense?
I was giving you the benefit of the doubt and not assuming you weren't just homophobic as well. But I guess if you're willing to denigrate an entire gender an orientation seems pretty insignificant by comparison. We're back to that "decent human beings don't categorize groups" again.
No, the overall number of active Navy ships is actually shrinking. Personnel number have fluctuated somewhat but have remained relatively lower after a shrinkage in the early 90's.
Sorry your white male upbringing was so rough. Mine wasn't. But at least we weren't black or women or gay (maybe you're gay, I don't know) or anything else that makes life more difficult. Understanding that doesn't make one a "radical" anything, it just makes one a decent human being.
Were you in some sort of terrible accident or do you not understand how human hearing works? Personally I have tens of thousands of sound receptors.
No, it has not escaped my notice. I disagree with you and find your arguments generally lacking and not compelling. It also has not escaped my notice that you seem to be the tiresome sort who must have the last word even when adding nothing new. On that note, I leave you to that.
I have nothing to feel guilty about.
Oh you do, just just lack the self awareness or intellectual honesty to recognize or admit it.
Anyway, your link informs me that: "The word pussy can also be used in a derogatory sense to refer to a male who is not considered sufficiently masculine (see Gender role). When used in this sense, it carries the implication of being easily fatigued, weak or cowardly."
Congratulations. Your own "defense" gets into the many gendered usages of the word and provides zero evidence for your original ridiculous claim that you were insulting someone by comparing them to a "pussy cat" (your original transparent lie which I haven't forgotten). You just keep digging yourself deeper and deeper. The cognitive dissonance as you try to rationalize is deafening.
By the definition of some radical feminists of either gender, that may be true, but I really don't care what they think or whether I offend them. They simply don't get invited to my parties again.
Dismissing someone as a "radical feminist" is not a defense to a valid critique. It's usually a sign of someone who doesn't like their privilege being questioned. But I guess the threat of missing out on whatever you do at your frat parties makes you feel powerful or whatever while you play beer pong and call each other pussy cats.
I'm not "using sexist language", we were discussing whether certain phrases are sexist or not.
You asserted that "pussy" is a "gender appropriate" insult for a man. "Pussy" is an insult rooted in sexism and is never appropriate ever. Therefore you are asserting that sexist insults are appropriate. QED
You know, I don't know what is wrong with you.
Of course you don't. You absolutely refuse to accept that something may be wrong with you so it must be someone else.
Are you really so dumb that you are incapable of talking about sexism without confusing that with "using sexist language"?
Are you incapable of not using sexist language? Because I'm talking about it while you're doing it (and still defending it).
That's in addition to your ignorant belief that calling a man a "pussy" has anything to do with sexism or women.
A gendered insult is by definition sexist. Continuing this ridiculous fiction is really sad.
Are you not a native speaker? Or are you simply linguistically challenged?
It's rich that the guy claiming "pussy" is a totally gender neutral and innocent insult is using implied language skills as an insult now. If you want me to believe that you truly don't understand the connotations of the words you choose you really can't take the high ground of linguistic superiority. Your skills would have to be meager for your defense to be convincing. So which is it? Are you an innocent idiot or a guilty coward?
Sigh. If I ever want to tweet my testimony that would be relevant.
Many people can, yes. "Comet or asteroid" is an open question in the field.
You can keep asserting it, but it doesn't make it true. You have been provided with numerous examples demonstrating your error. You have responded only with further assertions. At this point I can only assume you have nothing of substance to offer.
That quote greatly predates Pratchett, though its attribution is probably lost to time.
Being correct and being a troll exist on separate, unrelated axes.
You really, really have no spine or critical thinking ability. You are using sexist language, portraying it as "appropriate" and when confronted on it play ridiculous semantic games to "defend" yourself rather than engaging in self evaluation like an adult. Grow up.
Only if your mind is in the gutter. When you insult a man with the term "pussy", you are calling him a "pussy cat", i.e. a small and timid creature. It has nothing to do with women or the other meaning of that slang word
What a pathetic, cowardly liar you are. You're not even brave enough to stand up for the insult you use. If you're going to use an insult, own it. Using an insult and then when challenged trying to pretend you meant something less insulting is really, really sad. But I guess that's to be expected for someone who thinks comparing someone else to a woman is an insult. Serious insecurities.
It's telling that you think calling someone a "pussy" is a "gender appropriate insult" for a man. That's a pretty sexist viewpoint in and of itself. I'm not sure you're in a position to be judging sexism.
Non-native speakers often confuse homophones like sheer and shear. Of course hypocritical idiots who incorrectly criticize others' grammar do as well, so I guess if you insist you're a native English speaker...
Zero for two, little guy. English is just not your strong suit no matter how desperately you want it to be. I recommend you refrain from weighing in on someone else's word usage in the future because this thread turned out really embarrassingly for you.
Legally they most certainly can, that was my point. If I give someone, say, a blank check that I have signed and say "fill in however much you need" that is perfectly legal and the bank teller won't bat an eye when they deposit it.
It's unfortunate they come to your house with guns and force you to read and post on it. Have you contacted the police?
People who work in academia, i,e,, scientists.
Which is why you're both posting anonymously on slashdot.
She was right to want to say something and discuss the issue, but stuff like that belongs somewhere that clearly labels it an op-ed piece.
I'm not sure what would be a more appropriate than a "blog" to post an opinion. The whole point of a blog section is to separate the articles from more rigorous topics.
It was not an article about science.
It was an article about the "industry" of science, a topic that is often covered by in that forum.
The ability of a PC to multitask is one of its most compelling features. I don't think many people would be willing to shut down everything they're doing just to play a game. Especially when they could just play on a console at that point. You may say, "but the only thing you're doing is playing a game" but it's not that simple. Even being able to tab over to a music player or a web browser is huge. Having to reboot your whole computer because you wanted to take a break and jump into a few rounds of CounterStrike or something is a deal breaker.
Sigh. There was never a G5 Powerbook, they stopped at G4. That was the joke.
"Mac" is not an acronym, it is an abbreviation for "Macintosh". Stop capitalizing it.