I agree, you can't justify the bad behavior with a lot of good behavior... but you can assess just how 'systemic' the bad behavior is... that was my point, nothing other.
I know what the groupthink around here is, but "...now, because of videos, we are seeing just how systemic and widespread it is" is an expression of a preconceived notion, not a valid inference from data.
I think there is a counter argument to that point. There is a lot of video being shot everyday of police encounters. It has become the 'thing to do', and there are very often bystanders with the ability to take video. But, we only see those videos if something exceptional happens. The vast majority of them never get distributed. So how 'systemic and widespread' would it appear if we saw 500 videos of cops white cops helping black citizens, cops handling a violent situation properly, and even cops putting up with abuse of citizens for every 1 bad cop video?
In the end, having video records of this stuff is a good thing, but we need to keep it in perspective.
Is a replicator sensor on a phone really that useful? A camera is nice to have around all the time and even that often isn't used much by many phone owners. Yes, this thing is small but space is at a premium on phones. How often do you look at something and say "I wish I could create a mediocre quality 3D printed version of this"?
I don't see it as a mainstream feature. Maybe an option. Maybe useful for measuring things.
I was just saying its a simple fix compared to a mechanical breakdown. A repair guy can do it in a few minutes if that is what it takes. If it is mechanical, it could take days for a part, or be very expensive.
The point is that, given it being a low probability thing to start with, and coupled with the limited severity of the risk, its certainly an acceptable risk.
There is a small possibility it would go down that way, but much more likely we'd see various other attacks beforehand.
And if that is the worst case, then its really not that bad. Having a heating system break down during a cold snap is nothing new, and the fix for a bricked thermostat is quick and easy compared to a mechanical problem.
Fine, and you can continue to live with your fears and general hatred for anything corporate, while others enjoy little conveniences at very little real risk.
I love my net connected thermostats. When I take vacation, I can turn the heat or AC down to save energy, then can connect on my way home and have the house at a comfortable temperature when I arrive. I have them programmed to lower the heat/AC during the work or school day, but can make a change on the fly if someone is home for the day. I can adjust the temperatures without getting out of bed if I have my tablet nearby. Programming for daily/weekly settings & seasonal modes via a web interface is much better than button pushing.
I find it very useful and convenient. I know it has very limited security, but I also know the probability of that being exploited is extremely low as are the severity of the consequences. And I can check as often as I like and know if the settings were changed.
I can't think of any reason to connect an appliance or lighting that would be nearly as useful or worth the cost.
You should simply expect the security is non-existent.
That depends on where you draw the boundaries. People have locks on their houses but hide a key in the yard. You can say that is no security, but it is really reduced security.
Just because there may be easier circumvention methods doesn't mean there is no security. And until there are actual attackers and not just potential attack paths, minimal security might be enough, or at least statistically better than someone breaking in the back door with a 4x4 (an actual experience of mine). When folks start hearing stories of houses being accessed via these means, they will raise their bars.
The customer can't easily distinguish between a secure and insecure product, so even if they cared, they'd have no way to provide an economic force to cause developers to prioritize security.
And maybe they just don't care, and won't until there are actual reported cases of intrusion or whatever. Then more consumers will either become educated, get expert advice, or demand some type of warranty. That is how the market works.
It is also worth noting that California is a net importer of electricity. The 5% is in-state "generation", not usage. California's usage includes a significant percentage of power generated outside the state.
Actually, it may be closer to that when we are talking about usage and not generation. California is a net importer of electricity. The 5% is the percentage of power generated in California only. It is not 5% of California's total energy usage, which includes a lot of power generated outside the state.
Talking about something and planning it are two different things. It appears whoever submitted this article fabricated the idea that this is being 'planned', or maybe its a problem with reading comprehension. It is clearly not being planned.
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I agree, you can't justify the bad behavior with a lot of good behavior... but you can assess just how 'systemic' the bad behavior is... that was my point, nothing other.
I know what the groupthink around here is, but "...now, because of videos, we are seeing just how systemic and widespread it is" is an expression of a preconceived notion, not a valid inference from data.
I think there is a counter argument to that point. There is a lot of video being shot everyday of police encounters. It has become the 'thing to do', and there are very often bystanders with the ability to take video. But, we only see those videos if something exceptional happens. The vast majority of them never get distributed. So how 'systemic and widespread' would it appear if we saw 500 videos of cops white cops helping black citizens, cops handling a violent situation properly, and even cops putting up with abuse of citizens for every 1 bad cop video?
In the end, having video records of this stuff is a good thing, but we need to keep it in perspective.
What if she is hiring someone to lead negotiations?
It all started getting wacky after they sent women into space. Think about that!
Yeah, well, Obama's smoking habit is statistically more likely to have impacted his daughter's asthma (his example) than global warming ever will.
And smoking habit is George Bush's fault.
Oh no, the third rule of AGW alarmism is that all changes due to AGW are very very bad. And doooon't you for geet eeet.
Why are they implementing all this training network and colleges for the solar industry whereas the solution for IT is "issue more visas"?
Because in this case, there is no worker shortage to begin with.
How often do you indulge your inner need to tell the world just how forward thinking you believe you are?
^append... I didn't mean to imply this isn't pretty cool. It is.
Is a replicator sensor on a phone really that useful? A camera is nice to have around all the time and even that often isn't used much by many phone owners. Yes, this thing is small but space is at a premium on phones. How often do you look at something and say "I wish I could create a mediocre quality 3D printed version of this"?
I don't see it as a mainstream feature. Maybe an option. Maybe useful for measuring things.
I was just saying its a simple fix compared to a mechanical breakdown. A repair guy can do it in a few minutes if that is what it takes. If it is mechanical, it could take days for a part, or be very expensive.
The point is that, given it being a low probability thing to start with, and coupled with the limited severity of the risk, its certainly an acceptable risk.
There is a small possibility it would go down that way, but much more likely we'd see various other attacks beforehand.
And if that is the worst case, then its really not that bad. Having a heating system break down during a cold snap is nothing new, and the fix for a bricked thermostat is quick and easy compared to a mechanical problem.
Fine, and you can continue to live with your fears and general hatred for anything corporate, while others enjoy little conveniences at very little real risk.
I love my net connected thermostats. When I take vacation, I can turn the heat or AC down to save energy, then can connect on my way home and have the house at a comfortable temperature when I arrive. I have them programmed to lower the heat/AC during the work or school day, but can make a change on the fly if someone is home for the day. I can adjust the temperatures without getting out of bed if I have my tablet nearby. Programming for daily/weekly settings & seasonal modes via a web interface is much better than button pushing.
I find it very useful and convenient. I know it has very limited security, but I also know the probability of that being exploited is extremely low as are the severity of the consequences. And I can check as often as I like and know if the settings were changed.
I can't think of any reason to connect an appliance or lighting that would be nearly as useful or worth the cost.
You should simply expect the security is non-existent.
That depends on where you draw the boundaries. People have locks on their houses but hide a key in the yard. You can say that is no security, but it is really reduced security.
Just because there may be easier circumvention methods doesn't mean there is no security. And until there are actual attackers and not just potential attack paths, minimal security might be enough, or at least statistically better than someone breaking in the back door with a 4x4 (an actual experience of mine). When folks start hearing stories of houses being accessed via these means, they will raise their bars.
The customer can't easily distinguish between a secure and insecure product, so even if they cared, they'd have no way to provide an economic force to cause developers to prioritize security.
And maybe they just don't care, and won't until there are actual reported cases of intrusion or whatever. Then more consumers will either become educated, get expert advice, or demand some type of warranty. That is how the market works.
>80% of accidents are pilot error
That doesn't tell the whole story. How many accidents were averted due to human intervention?
clueless idiot. Learn what a log scale is...
Obviously its for weighing lumber.
It is also worth noting that California is a net importer of electricity. The 5% is in-state "generation", not usage. California's usage includes a significant percentage of power generated outside the state.
April Fools! Its only 1%.
Actually, it may be closer to that when we are talking about usage and not generation. California is a net importer of electricity. The 5% is the percentage of power generated in California only. It is not 5% of California's total energy usage, which includes a lot of power generated outside the state.
A progressive brain tax is coming.
Talking about something and planning it are two different things. It appears whoever submitted this article fabricated the idea that this is being 'planned', or maybe its a problem with reading comprehension. It is clearly not being planned.
Can I tack on the time spent reading this reply also?
Can I get my minute back?
A camera is not futureproofing.
I bet the salesman had a different take on it.