What the hell is the use of a nano guitar? I could understand interesting applications, like a nanocpu or something useable, but who the hell is going to play a nano guitar, esssh, people need to freaking get real and do more interesting thing with whatever they do, I do tell them to shove that nanoguitar up their, but they do need a trillon of them to feel pain.
That is what the tell you. Do you believe that? Do you believe the government that you have known to lie to you over and over again? Of course not. Who is to say that something is classified or not? One mans junk is another mans treasure, sure some things might not be classified (according to the liars) but how dangerous are these information? Could be very dangerous, shipment orders might not be classified, but obtaining a list of these could give you an idea of what they are buying and what they will be build from what they are buying, perhaps what they are trying to build is classified? The military needs to pull all of its computer off the internet, They are pathetic, You can still find some sites today exporting / to everyone, (rw).
This is not exciting at all to me, What have we done with the closer planets we found? asdf. It means nothing if we find 1000000 other planets, because we are not going to do anything with them, at least not in my lifetime...
What the hell do you mean a racist comment? because he called a dormant star a "brown dwarf"? Get a grip, I know it is hard being a dwarf and all that, but he wasn't talking about you.
No, this does not violate freedom of speech, I am tired of hearing people like you dig up "freedom of speech" on every little thing. Did you read that page? It never said, no one can use their name, It is simply saying that it does not want other people profiting from their name. Is this a bad thing? I don't think so. If you have an "I love PEZ" or "anti pez" site, you can use those their name in your tags, because your site is related to the contents in the tag. On the other hand if you are running www.hawthornyxxxgeeks.com and you use their name in your tags, it is clear that you are just trying to generate business for yourself, and also deceiving people, in this case, they have the right to sue you.
What if you are not doing something like product reviews? and you are not a competitor selling candy? What will you be? Perhaps a pron site? I think their trademark infringement stands valid, I don't think any company will ever sue/attack any one for reviewing their product and using the tag, that is business for them.
But it makes me wonder, what if I like their candy, or I hate their candy? and I make a "I love Pez Candy" or "Anti Pez candy" site? Will they come after me? If they can do this, can microsoft not do the same thing? So now, I have to take out microsoft out of the meta tags on my anti microsoft site.
gee, does slashdot authors ever read the news before approving it? Bellsouth made a bid of $100 billion, MCI was the one who won the bid by $115 billion.
I know quite some female hackers, they kinds that will make 99% of slashdot bow their heads in shame. They can hack C, and uh oh, asm too. I have seen them hack drivers.
segmond: "Oh, there is no driver for it yet." chick: "So? I will hack a driver for it." 3 days later. chick: "Seg, wanna help me test my driver, it hasn't crashed yet, just need you to help me test it. BTW beat you to it, nah nah:P" segmond: "Did I tell you I am looking for a wife?;-)"
Yup, I know 3 such chicks, and I swear, I wasn't looking. One is 22, the other is 27 and the other is 17. 22 did CS, not at MIT, and no! it wasn't her school that made her who she is. 27 did partially CS and EE. 17 is still in high school. If you ever run into them in the online world, you will not know they are chicks. Why? because they don't pick feminine nicks, they don't wanna be bothered cuz of their sex, they want to be treated just like the guys. Ya, it is sad. Even in the geek cultures, female geeks maybe accepted, but they just get too much crap, "Are you really female? Wanna hook up?...", that it drives them nuts. For the ones I know, they hack both in FreeBSD and Linux.
Reverse engineering is very important. It is important in some cases, where the owner of a software refuses to tell you how a certain future works. When you reverse engineer, you work on low level, you cannot work with high level languages like C. You will need to understand the assembly langauge of the platform you want to reverse. When you obtain the software, you will have to load it into a debugger or disassembler, dump it into assembly code, and figure it out.
The best way to build this skill is quite easy, tho it takes time and dedication, write lots of small programs in C. compiler then, but generate assembly output instead of executable output. gcc -S. Take a look at the assmebly output and study it, with time you will easily be able to recognize how compilers generate their source, you can take a look at an assembly source, and easily tell if a loop is a while, for, do-while loop, and such.
Reversing this source into C is a whole new story, if you don't have access to include files and if the binary have been stripped, then it makes it harder. Here is an example of such C source
This tells us that in address 0x8024639c we have 5 instructions. We load 1 to address 0x8032d584, and 0 to the next address. We call a function at 0x8032171c, we then call another function at 0x8032174c with two arguments which are 2 and 0x37a, then we call another function at 0x8024922c with the argument 90. Not pretty, but with time we will be able to understand the structure of the program, and be able to assign the functions meaninful names.
Reverse engineering is a task which requires utmost patience! It takes pain and pratice and time. If you want to figure out algorithms, it is better you read papers and come up with your own. If you want to figure out closed algorithms, or learn how a software works when it is closed. then reverse engineering is for you. By the way, the sample snippet of source was done by a friend, and is part of mario64 reversed enginerred.
In the sample snippet below, he was able to make out some of the variable and this code is much more readable.
ebay doesn't lose money from simple search results. Think of this. If I use another search engine and find a bid on ebay? Does that mean I don't buy it from ebay? of course not! I bid at ebay! that is how ebay makes it money, ebay makes it money when people sell stuff. The more people that sell, the better for them! The more people can find out what is being sold on ebay by these search engines, the more people are likely to buy from ebay, thus the more $$$. What is their problem?
Solaris Device Drivers AIX Device Drivers *BSD Device Drivers HPUX Device Drivers Windows Device Drivers
Not many I guess, Do you know why? Because not everyone hacks device drivers. Yet the linux community has one, and is whining whining. If you can't start out with that, you are not cut out for the job, please go back to your PERL scripts. The problem we have today with hacking device drivers it not that they are hard to code, but rather lack of information on the hardware! Thats right, What device on earth do you think we can't hack a driver for? Having a 10000 page manual on hacking device driver is useless if companies will not release information on hardwares. So rather than stay here and ramble on books, why don't we all/mail companies and tell them we love Linux and would love their device supported on it? If they don't have a competent engineer, we the Linux community will provide a competent hacker. If they don't want information out on their hardware to protect their products, we will sign the NDA, but we just want their drive on our box.
I totally disagree with you. I agree that revision is needed, but not in the manner which you suggest. Writing device driver is not BASIC programming. It is not something for people with no brain to do. Asking for a definitive guide is crazy. As someone who hacks driver, you should be able to figure out things for yourself. Asking for API as ISDN4Linux and Video4Linux is really nuts. Tomorrow you will be asking for Audio4Linux, ADSL4Linux, CableModem4Linux... Seriously, if you can't figure that out by reading your book and looking at the existing sources, then you are not cut out to be writing drivers. USB is not a bad idea, as there is not many info on it.
Device drivers are complex, and when it comes to hardware and lowlevel stuff. There is never going to be a definitive guide, because hardwares and low level stuff change at an alarming rate and vary on different systems. The purpose of the book is to start you out on your path to device driver hacking. It shows you the basic ideas, and you figure out the rest. The reason companies are not writing drivers is not because of lack of adequate documentation, but rather because they don't seen any profit, yet. I mean, what you are asking for is a device drivers BIBLE, the truth is that such stuff will be obsolete in 2 years, and it will take 3 years to write. It will also be much more complicated for newbies to grab.
Can you imagine grabbing a 2000 page book on coding device drivers? Holy Smoke, I do shit my pants if someone gave me such stuff to read. A 100-200 page book which is quite, concise and very clear is what is needed. "Linux Device Drivers" does that, it just needs to be updated often, hopefully online wise, because I definitely can't afford to buy a new version every year.
Yes, I am really 11 years old, and I use Linux. No you cannot meet me, my parents already arranged a marriage for me when I get older. Go to linuxchicks.com or something.
I do not understand why we always have to fight about it. Linus SAID, "Linux is not ready for the desktop." When did he say this? How often will this be quoted? He said this in the past, Does the past not change? Look around you! What has changed since that quote? SuSE, RHAT and other distribution installations have gotten much easier. More drivers have been written, more people are supporting linux. More companies are backing up Linux.
Slashdot is a great idea, but it is very sad that we don't always make the best out of it. When a news like this comes on slashdot, we should always ask, How do we use this opportunity for good. Do we? But No! We rather fight, about who is right and who is wrong. Nobody is right, and nobody is wrong.
This article does point out something that Linux needs, and that is to simplify installation of programs. We need a self extracting archive. With various unix systems having different binary, I guess perl will not be a bad language to use to do this. In a real world, most people do not like to read, even geeks. Aye, the only thing they probably read is slashdot. But anyway, Linux is 50% ready for desktop. I use Linux for my desktop workstation, SuSE with KDE. Very wonderful. wonderful for me, because I can read and will read when there is a need. The problem this article presents to us is simple. Linux NEEDS a self extracting/installation kind of program. Lets just focus on this problem. Nothing more or less. The amount of time spent on reading and fighting over this will be wisely spent solving this problem. So what are you going to do, whatcha gonna do? Please don't reply to my post. Go code. Yes, it is hard to believe but I am really 11 years old, and a girl. I turn 12 next week. I love Linux. The pengiun is soooo cute! ^_^
Again, you are dead wrong like the rest. I hate you all clueless idiots. First of all, you can develop for any console machine today, using an Unix system. You just need to have a compiler. You might say, hrm.. well that is the devkit. NO!!!, here is an example. If you wanted to write code for psx write now. You just need to figure out the psx executable header format which you can easily find on the web. Compile gcc to produce code for psx cpu mips r3000 which is target mip-sel. Hack a gcc elf exe to psx exe header with bfd (binary format description). and viola you can use gcc to code! There is free way GNU psx dev kit, which have been hacked up by a bunch of hackers. Go learn to search the web. I have been in the psx dev scene, and have been using linux since 1996 to write code for PSX. Now some of you might ask how about the hardware, it is not hard to build, you just need to find a way to communicate with the PSX, and those AR thingys that let you load cheat codes in memory are what you use. You hack the rom, replace it with a program which will let you load to psx memory, read from psx memory, and you have the psx under your controller. There are such things already. blah blah, i hate all this crys.
First of all, if the consoles are open, there is no way the console makers will make money. They don't make money from hardware, but rather from software. Sega just spent $100 mil to advertise in the US alone, they have around 300,000 pre ordered consoles. at $200, that is $6,000,000 in hardware sales. Now, how do they make back the rest of the $94 million? through software. So open source does not work. To hack consoles, you have to be a darn hacker. I have coded for gameboy, nes, snes, psx and n64. It cost around $60 to setup hardware to code for psx. I do gameboy and psx dev with FreeBSD and linux. You just have to have a clue, go learn electronics kid, learn asm programming, and you will easily figure out how to code for consoles, shut up and stop crying. I am tired of yall babies crying.
You are an idiot!!!! First of all, Not every dreamcast games makes use of the Microsoft CE OS, you only use that OS when you want to use the directx API, and this is good for people who are developing both on dreamcast and PC. The Microsoft CE is not in the rom to say, so Sega does not pay Microsoft for every game it sells. The OS is loaded at the boot sector of the CD if it use used. A lot of game developers are very stubborn, and will probably not use directx API, but rather develop their own library, meaning, that they probably will not use the CE. Only softcore developers who are starting out in the console world, will be very attracted to it. I am tired of all this do not support microsoft crap, sure, don't support them, but you probably support.doc format. if you were asked a resume in.doc format, do you yell no? and insist that you must send it in.ps or.pdf? Dreamcast is great, and so will be PSII. As of now Dreamcast is a worth while system to get. Besides from a few dreamcast developers that I have talked to, the CE for DC is very well optimized and is good enough. And I say, if it works use it!
When I read the topic, I was hoping it meant something else, I was smacking myself for thinking and believing the topic meant he was dead. It took 10 years for the fucking page to load, and it turns out to be true. What will I be with APUE, UNP and TCP ill? I was looking forward to his next TCP/IP book when ipv6 makes it out here. He will be greatly missed.
It is sad that a lot of people do not understand the consequence of this. Yes, yes yes! Sun is giving it away for free, but Sun can cease to stop anytime. Right? right. Now imagine Sun suceeding in breaking the Microsoft monopoly market with office applications, this will mean that a lot of people will be using *nix hopefully with StarOffice, right? right? Now imagine if Sun says, we have given this free to you guys for a while, now lets make a little money, $10. Not bad right? right. So we opensource freaks decide to find another office suite, only to find out that the have all been halted mostly cuz of the success of StarOffice, so you shell out the mere $10. Now imagine if lots of big companies adopt Sun tactics, buy lots of good linux products, support them, give them out for free, but don't make the source open source. Things will be well, till MS falls, and then they all stop giving them for free, then you have 1000 apps to pay for, even at $10. pay for staroffice, acroread, netscape or whichever browser, and so on and so forth. Get the point? I hope the developers of other office suites don't give up, we need open source office suite to fall on just in case Sun decieves us, which is bound to happen. Sun is on our side now, and you know what? Linux is taking their business, and do you think they will just accept that? They have plans, this is more serious than you think!
It takes time and hardwork to hack an OS, this is not a fucking movie, you don't sit down, key in a few strokes and have a site owned. It also takes dedication, and God knows that I rather spend my time mucking around with Nix or electronics than hax0ring winblowz OS. If I was getting paid for it, it might be different, I think Microslut logs all the packets that goes through, if you own them, they will replay the attack and fix it, Thus I encourage you to ignore their pleas to help them improve security, rather I ask that you DoS their machine, just to piss them off.... and if you know of a way to get in, don't get in, wait!, let them go and boast to the world that windows2000 is the most secure OS, then hit them hard afterwards. fuck MS.
first of all, if you needed to change the IPs on all the machines on the network. As far as the machines are up, with a few lines of script, using expect you can just from one location do that. fuq off. by the way, tell them that firing me is dumb, since I am the only admin, I have their minix server backdoored!
There is no age regulation to get certified, the thing is who is to set the test? Chances are the test will not be broad enough. Take a look at Unix certification! WTF does that mean? There is nothing as being Unix certified. You can be Solaris certified, after you take $2,500 sun classes, or HPUX certified after you sell an arm and a leg! Hence if there is going to be certification for programming, does that mean C certified , C++ certified? LISP certified? Assembly Certified *gasp* ?? Chances are these tests will not test your logic as a coder, but instead test you and ask you stupid questions, what is object oriented programming, define this and that. Programming is a very complicated stuff, the test will almost have to be in the form of an IQ test. Asking me questions about database programming, when I am unix kernel hacker is irrelvant. Asking me questions about OS internals when all I am is 3d graphics programmer is also not that important.
Certification? YES! Now? Nope. Tomorrow? Perhaps. Discriminating? Yup Useful? Yeah right, as good as a CS Degree.
The reason certification was brought up was due to the fact, that people should be certified when doing works related to public saftey, the fact is that programmers are lazy by nature, and usually will take the shortest route possibly to make time to Quake and IRC, thus certification will not make the programmers less lazy and more careful, Hrm, unless of course the certification will be taken out if the programmer is found to write dangerous code. HRM!!?? WTF is to say what is a dangerous code? just cuz I say 2 + 2 = 5, if 2 + 2 = 5 then 2 = 4 doesn't mean it is dangerous, perhaps to your weak undeveloped mind.
In anycase, I give no FUCK, Why? Look at degrees, computer science degrees, what are they worth? Certification or Not, Degree or Not, I care not. I love to code and I will code, if you will not hire me, I will code and put your company out of business.
Bleh, I could write and write and write, but at the moment my brain is in such a unfscked state, that tis better to stop.
I love to Code! fuck your degree and certification.
Okay, I am just joking, this is insane, this case should not even make it to court, if I was a judge and this case was brought to my attention, I do throw those dumbarses in jail for a few days for wasting everyones time. This stuff poses no threat to slashdot, irc, and thousands of projects that have volunteers.
A volunteer is one who offers service of his own free will. AOL never forced them into, when you volunteer, and you get tired of it. You quit, you don't even f#king dare ask for money. If you were doing a darn good job volunteering, they will hire you, if they have lots of people volunteering, you are not worth crap, and are not ask for $$$.
It doesn't matter if these insane folks spent 50 hours a day, the fact is that they used their own free will. So many lawsuits, wtf is going? AOL should sue those losers for legal damages when this is over.
I should sue any software company which i have voluntary turned in a bug report, or patches. I should sue the City for the voluntary community services that I did. Hell, I am going to sue Slashdot too:), from now till further notice,talk to my attorney.
Exactly, those guys are not one step from insane, they are insane. AOL should sue them when this case is over for damages in legal fee. They probably don't have they money, but that will take what little they have and show them.
Slashdot Mirror
What the hell is the use of a nano guitar? I could understand interesting applications, like a nanocpu or something useable, but who the hell is going to play a nano guitar, esssh, people need to freaking get real and do more interesting thing with whatever they do, I do tell them to shove that nanoguitar up their, but they do need a trillon of them to feel pain.
That is what the tell you. Do you believe that? Do you believe the government that you have known to lie to you over and over again? Of course not.
Who is to say that something is classified or not?
One mans junk is another mans treasure, sure some things might not be classified (according to the liars) but how dangerous are these information? Could be very dangerous, shipment orders might not be classified, but obtaining a list of these could give you an idea of what they are buying and what they will be build from what they are buying, perhaps what they are trying to build is classified? The military needs to pull all of its computer off the internet, They are pathetic, You can still find some sites today exporting / to everyone, (rw).
This is not exciting at all to me, What have we done with the closer planets we found? asdf.
It means nothing if we find 1000000 other planets, because we are not going to do anything with them, at least not in my lifetime...
What the hell do you mean a racist comment? because he called a dormant star a "brown dwarf"?
Get a grip, I know it is hard being a dwarf and all that, but he wasn't talking about you.
No, they will not sue you, but if you run a porn site, and use "pez candy", they can.
No, this does not violate freedom of speech, I am tired of hearing people like you dig up "freedom of speech" on every little thing. Did you read that page? It never said, no one can use their name, It is simply saying that it does not want other people profiting from their name. Is this a bad thing? I don't think so. If you have an "I love PEZ" or "anti pez" site, you can use those their name in your tags, because your site is related to the contents in the tag. On the other hand if you are running www.hawthornyxxxgeeks.com and you use their name in your tags, it is clear that you are just trying to generate business for yourself, and also deceiving people, in this case, they have the right to sue you.
What if you are not doing something like product reviews? and you are not a competitor selling candy? What will you be? Perhaps a pron site? I think their trademark infringement stands valid, I don't think any company will ever sue/attack any one for reviewing their product and using the tag, that is business for them.
But it makes me wonder, what if I like their candy, or I hate their candy? and I make a "I love Pez Candy" or "Anti Pez candy" site? Will they come after me? If they can do this, can microsoft not do the same thing? So now, I have to take out microsoft out of the meta tags on my anti microsoft site.
I hate the commercialization of the internet
gee, does slashdot authors ever read the news before approving it? Bellsouth made a bid of $100 billion, MCI was the one who won the bid by $115 billion.
this is pathetic
I know quite some female hackers, they kinds that will make 99% of slashdot bow their heads in shame. They can hack C, and uh oh, asm too. I have seen them hack drivers.
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...", that it drives them nuts.
segmond: "Oh, there is no driver for it yet."
chick: "So? I will hack a driver for it."
3 days later.
chick: "Seg, wanna help me test my driver, it hasn't crashed yet, just need you to help me test it. BTW beat you to it, nah nah:P"
segmond: "Did I tell you I am looking for a wife?
Yup, I know 3 such chicks, and I swear, I wasn't looking. One is 22, the other is 27 and the other is 17. 22 did CS, not at MIT, and no! it wasn't her school that made her who she is. 27 did partially CS and EE. 17 is still in high school.
If you ever run into them in the online world, you will not know they are chicks. Why? because they don't pick feminine nicks, they don't wanna be bothered cuz of their sex, they want to be treated just like the guys. Ya, it is sad. Even in the geek cultures, female geeks maybe accepted, but they just get too much crap, "Are you really female? Wanna hook up?
For the ones I know, they hack both in FreeBSD and Linux.
Reverse engineering is very important. It is important in some cases, where the owner of a software refuses to tell you how a certain future works. When you reverse engineer, you work on low level, you cannot work with high level languages like C. You will need to understand the assembly langauge of the platform you want to reverse. When you obtain the software, you will have to load it into a debugger or disassembler, dump it into assembly code, and figure it out.
The best way to build this skill is quite easy, tho it takes time and dedication, write lots of small programs in C. compiler then, but generate assembly output instead of executable output. gcc -S. Take a look at the assmebly output and study it, with time you will easily be able to recognize how compilers generate their source, you can take a look at an assembly source, and easily tell if a loop is a while, for, do-while loop, and such.
Reversing this source into C is a whole new story, if you don't have access to include files and if the binary have been stripped, then it makes it harder. Here is an example of such C source
_0x8024639c()
{
_0x8032d584 = 1;
_0x8032d588 = 0;
_0x8032171c();
_0x8032174c(2, 0x37a);
_0x8024922c(90);
}
This tells us that in address 0x8024639c we have 5 instructions. We load 1 to address 0x8032d584, and 0 to the next address. We call a function at 0x8032171c, we then call another function at 0x8032174c with two arguments which are 2 and 0x37a, then we call another function at 0x8024922c with the argument 90. Not pretty, but with time we will be able to understand the structure of the program, and be able to assign the functions meaninful names.
Reverse engineering is a task which requires utmost patience! It takes pain and pratice and time. If you want to figure out algorithms, it is better you read papers and come up with your own. If you want to figure out closed algorithms, or learn how a software works when it is closed. then reverse engineering is for you. By the way, the sample snippet of source was done by a friend, and is part of mario64 reversed enginerred.
In the sample snippet below, he was able to make out some of the variable and this code is much more readable.
_0x8024b13c()
{
if (!_0x8032ddd0) {
if (mario->Power > 0) {
block = mario->Power / 256;
} else {
block = 0;
}
if (Level > 0) {
DisplayStats |= 2;
} else {
DisplayStats &= 0xfffffffd;
}
if (CoinCount Coin && _0x8032d5d4 & 1) {
if (mario->_0x0c & 0x00006000) {
a = 0x38128081;
} else {
a = 0x38118081;
}
CoinCount++;
SetSound(a, mario->0x54);
}
if (mario->Life > 100) {
mario->Life = 100;
}
if (mario->Coin > 999) {
mario->Coin = 999;
}
if (CoinCount > 999) {
CoinCount = 999;
}
StarCount = mario->Star;
LifeCount = mario->Life;
_0x8033b268 = mario->_0xac;
if (PowerBar _0xb2 > 0) {
DisplayStats |= 0x8000;
} else {
DisplayStats &= 0xffff7fff;
}
}
}
If you think you can handle such stuff, then jump aboard and have fun.
ebay doesn't lose money from simple search results. Think of this. If I use another search engine and find a bid on ebay? Does that mean I don't buy it from ebay? of course not! I bid at ebay! that is how ebay makes it money, ebay makes it money when people sell stuff. The more people that sell, the better for them! The more people can find out what is being sold on ebay by these search engines, the more people are likely to buy from ebay, thus the more $$$. What is their problem?
How many many of these books have you seen?
/mail companies and tell them we love Linux and would love their device supported on it? If they don't have a competent engineer, we the Linux community will provide a competent hacker. If they don't want information out on their hardware to protect their products, we will sign the NDA, but we just want their drive on our box.
Solaris Device Drivers
AIX Device Drivers
*BSD Device Drivers
HPUX Device Drivers
Windows Device Drivers
Not many I guess, Do you know why? Because not everyone hacks device drivers. Yet the linux community has one, and is whining whining. If you can't start out with that, you are not cut out for the job, please go back to your PERL scripts. The problem we have today with hacking device drivers it not that they are hard to code, but rather lack of information on the hardware! Thats right, What device on earth do you think we can't hack a driver for? Having a 10000 page manual on hacking device driver is useless if companies will not release information on hardwares. So rather than stay here and ramble on books, why don't we all
I totally disagree with you. I agree that revision is needed, but not in the manner which you suggest. Writing device driver is not BASIC programming. It is not something for people with no brain to do. Asking for a definitive guide is crazy. As someone who hacks driver, you should be able to figure out things for yourself. Asking for API as ISDN4Linux and Video4Linux is really nuts. Tomorrow you will be asking for Audio4Linux, ADSL4Linux, CableModem4Linux ... Seriously, if you can't figure that out by reading your book and looking at the existing sources, then you are not cut out to be writing drivers. USB is not a bad idea, as there is not many info on it.
Device drivers are complex, and when it comes to hardware and lowlevel stuff. There is never going to be a definitive guide, because hardwares and low level stuff change at an alarming rate and vary on different systems. The purpose of the book is to start you out on your path to device driver hacking. It shows you the basic ideas, and you figure out the rest. The reason companies are not writing drivers is not because of lack of adequate documentation, but rather because they don't seen any profit, yet. I mean, what you are asking for is a device drivers BIBLE, the truth is that such stuff will be obsolete in 2 years, and it will take 3 years to write. It will also be much more complicated for newbies to grab.
Can you imagine grabbing a 2000 page book on coding device drivers? Holy Smoke, I do shit my pants if someone gave me such stuff to read. A 100-200 page book which is quite, concise and very clear is what is needed. "Linux Device Drivers" does that, it just needs to be updated often, hopefully online wise, because I definitely can't afford to buy a new version every year.
Yes, I am really 11 years old, and I use Linux. No you cannot meet me, my parents already arranged a marriage for me when I get older. Go to linuxchicks.com or something.
I do not understand why we always have to fight about it. Linus SAID, "Linux is not ready for the desktop." When did he say this? How often will this be quoted? He said this in the past, Does the past not change? Look around you! What has changed since that quote? SuSE, RHAT and other distribution installations have gotten much easier. More drivers have been written, more people are supporting linux. More companies are backing up Linux.
Slashdot is a great idea, but it is very sad that we don't always make the best out of it. When a news like this comes on slashdot, we should always ask, How do we use this opportunity for good. Do we? But No! We rather fight, about who is right and who is wrong. Nobody is right, and nobody is wrong.
This article does point out something that Linux needs, and that is to simplify installation of programs. We need a self extracting archive. With various unix systems having different binary, I guess perl will not be a bad language to use to do this. In a real world, most people do not like to read, even geeks. Aye, the only thing they probably read is slashdot. But anyway, Linux is 50% ready for desktop. I use Linux for my desktop workstation, SuSE with KDE. Very wonderful. wonderful for me, because I can read and will read when there is a need. The problem this article presents to us is simple. Linux NEEDS a self extracting/installation kind of program. Lets just focus on this problem. Nothing more or less. The amount of time spent on reading and fighting over this will be wisely spent solving this problem. So what are you going to do, whatcha gonna do? Please don't reply to my post. Go code. Yes, it is hard to believe but I am really 11 years old, and a girl. I turn 12 next week. I love Linux.
The pengiun is soooo cute! ^_^
Again, you are dead wrong like the rest. I hate you all clueless idiots. First of all, you can develop for any console machine today, using an Unix system. You just need to have a compiler. You might say, hrm.. well that is the devkit. NO!!!, here is an example. If you wanted to write code for psx write now. You just need to figure out the psx executable header format which you can easily find on the web. Compile gcc to produce code for psx cpu mips r3000 which is target mip-sel. Hack a gcc elf exe to psx exe header with bfd (binary format description). and viola you can use gcc to code! There is free way GNU psx dev kit, which have been hacked up by a bunch of hackers. Go learn to search the web. I have been in the psx dev scene, and have been using linux since 1996 to write code for PSX. Now some of you might ask how about the hardware, it is not hard to build, you just need to find a way to communicate with the PSX, and those AR thingys that let you load cheat codes in memory are what you use. You hack the rom, replace it with a program which will let you load to psx memory, read from psx memory, and you have the psx under your controller. There are such things already. blah blah, i hate all this crys.
First of all, if the consoles are open, there is no way the console makers will make money. They don't make money from hardware, but rather from software. Sega just spent $100 mil to advertise in the US alone, they have around 300,000 pre ordered consoles. at $200, that is $6,000,000 in hardware sales. Now, how do they make back the rest of the $94 million? through software. So open source does not work. To hack consoles, you have to be a darn hacker. I have coded for gameboy, nes, snes, psx and n64. It cost around $60 to setup hardware to code for psx. I do gameboy and psx dev with FreeBSD and linux. You just have to have a clue, go learn electronics kid, learn asm programming, and you will easily figure out how to code for consoles, shut up and stop crying. I am tired of yall babies crying.
You are an idiot!!!! First of all, Not every dreamcast games makes use of the Microsoft CE OS, you only use that OS when you want to use the directx API, and this is good for people who are developing both on dreamcast and PC. The Microsoft CE is not in the rom to say, so Sega does not pay Microsoft for every game it sells. The OS is loaded at the boot sector of the CD if it use used. A lot of game developers are very stubborn, and will probably not use directx API, but rather develop their own library, meaning, that they probably will not use the CE. Only softcore developers who are starting out in the console world, will be very attracted to it. I am tired of all this do not support microsoft crap, sure, don't support them, but you probably support .doc format. if you were asked a resume in .doc format, do you yell no? and insist that you must send it in .ps or .pdf? Dreamcast is great, and so will be PSII. As of now Dreamcast is a worth while system to get. Besides from a few dreamcast developers that I have talked to, the CE for DC is very well optimized and is good enough. And I say, if it works use it!
When I read the topic, I was hoping it meant something else, I was smacking myself for thinking and believing the topic meant he was dead. It took 10 years for the fucking page to load, and it turns out to be true. What will I be with APUE, UNP and TCP ill? I was looking forward to his next TCP/IP book when ipv6 makes it out here. He will be greatly missed.
It is sad that a lot of people do not understand the consequence of this. Yes, yes yes! Sun is giving it away for free, but Sun can cease to stop anytime. Right? right. Now imagine Sun suceeding in breaking the Microsoft monopoly market with office applications, this will mean that a lot of people will be using *nix hopefully with StarOffice, right? right? Now imagine if Sun says, we have given this free to you guys for a while, now lets make a little money, $10. Not bad right? right. So we opensource freaks decide to find another office suite, only to find out that the have all been halted mostly cuz of the success of StarOffice, so you shell out the mere $10. Now imagine if lots of big companies adopt Sun tactics, buy lots of good linux products, support them, give them out for free, but don't make the source open source. Things will be well, till MS falls, and then they all stop giving them for free, then you have 1000 apps to pay for, even at $10. pay for staroffice, acroread, netscape or whichever browser, and so on and so forth. Get the point? I hope the developers of other office suites don't give up, we need open source office suite to fall on just in case Sun decieves us, which is bound to happen. Sun is on our side now, and you know what? Linux is taking their business, and do you think they will just accept that? They have plans, this is more serious than you think!
It takes time and hardwork to hack an OS, this is not a fucking movie, you don't sit down, key in a few strokes and have a site owned. It also takes dedication, and God knows that I rather spend my time mucking around with Nix or electronics than hax0ring winblowz OS. If I was getting paid for it, it might be different, I think Microslut logs all the packets that goes through, if you own them, they will replay the attack and fix it, Thus I encourage you to ignore their pleas to help them improve security, rather I ask that you DoS their machine, just to piss them off. ... and if you know of a way to get in, don't get in, wait!, let them go and boast to the world that windows2000 is the most secure OS, then hit them hard afterwards. fuck MS.
first of all, if you needed to change the IPs on
all the machines on the network. As far as the
machines are up, with a few lines of script, using
expect you can just from one location do that.
fuq off. by the way, tell them that firing me is dumb, since I am the only admin, I have their minix server backdoored!
There is no age regulation to get certified, the thing is who is to set the test? Chances are the test will not be broad enough. Take a look at Unix certification! WTF does that mean? There is nothing as being Unix certified. You can be Solaris certified, after you take $2,500 sun classes, or HPUX certified after you sell an arm and a leg! Hence if there is going to be certification for programming, does that mean C certified , C++ certified? LISP certified? Assembly Certified *gasp* ?? Chances are these tests will not test your logic as a coder, but instead test you and ask you stupid questions, what is object oriented programming, define this and that. Programming is a very complicated stuff, the test will almost have to be in the form of an IQ test. Asking me questions about database programming, when I am unix kernel hacker is irrelvant. Asking me questions about OS internals when all I am is 3d graphics programmer is also not that important.
Certification? YES!
Now? Nope.
Tomorrow? Perhaps.
Discriminating? Yup
Useful? Yeah right, as good as a CS Degree.
The reason certification was brought up was due to the fact, that people should be certified when doing works related to public saftey, the fact is that programmers are lazy by nature, and usually will take the shortest route possibly to make time to Quake and IRC, thus certification will not make the programmers less lazy and more careful, Hrm, unless of course the certification will be taken out if the programmer is found to write dangerous code. HRM!!?? WTF is to say what is a dangerous code? just cuz I say
2 + 2 = 5,
if 2 + 2 = 5 then 2 = 4
doesn't mean it is dangerous, perhaps to your weak undeveloped mind.
In anycase, I give no FUCK, Why? Look at degrees, computer science degrees, what are they worth? Certification or Not, Degree or Not, I care not. I love to code and I will code, if you will not hire me, I will code and put your company out of business.
Bleh, I could write and write and write, but at the moment my brain is in such a unfscked state, that tis better to stop.
I love to Code!
fuck your degree and certification.
Okay, I am just joking, this is insane, this case should not even make it to court, if I was a judge and this case was brought to my attention, I do throw those dumbarses in jail for a few days for wasting everyones time. This stuff poses no threat to slashdot, irc, and thousands of projects that have volunteers.
:), from now till further notice,talk to my attorney.
A volunteer is one who offers service of his own free will. AOL never forced them into, when you volunteer, and you get tired of it. You quit, you don't even f#king dare ask for money. If you were doing a darn good job volunteering, they will hire you, if they have lots of people volunteering, you are not worth crap, and are not ask for $$$.
It doesn't matter if these insane folks spent 50 hours a day, the fact is that they used their own free will. So many lawsuits, wtf is going? AOL should sue those losers for legal damages when this is over.
I should sue any software company which i have voluntary turned in a bug report, or patches. I should sue the City for the voluntary community services that I did. Hell, I am going to sue Slashdot too
Exactly, those guys are not one step from insane, they are insane. AOL should sue them when this case is over for damages in legal fee. They probably don't have they money, but that will take what little they have and show them.