If we're going to send people into another planet, why not first see about sending people that are already dying? It seems to me that it's possible that moving out of your planet's magnetic field could have implications beyond what we'd normally expect.
Specifically, what is happening that you dislike as a result of corporate personhood? I just want to understand where you are coming from here. Please be specific.
I don't know about them, but what I don't like is that the corporation has rights observed by courts, but it has no physical body that can be incarcerated.
The history of the Internet begins with the development of electronic computers in the 1950s. Initial concepts of packet networking originated in several computer science laboratories in the United States, Great Britain, and France. The US Department of Defense awarded contracts as early as the 1960s for packet network systems, including the development of the ARPANET (which would become the first network to use the Internet Protocol.)
There was no other way, my friend. And now, thanks to the work and discoveries made by these scientists, third graders have another way to compare dauphins and whales. Generally, great discoveries can be made from connecting dots, regardless what "grade" those dots seem to exist in.
One bit that I find extremely interesting (and beyond what we covered in third grade):
Baleen whales have two blowholes positioned in a V-shape while toothed whales have only one blowhole. The blowhole of a sperm whale, a toothed whale, is located left of center in the frontal area of the snout, and is actually its left nostril, while the right nostril lacks an opening to the surface despite the fact that its nasal passage is otherwise well developed. --wikipedia
For future needs, and since he's already in the attic doing the work, he "needs" CAT6 cable. Thinking of grudgingly climbing through the attic to install CAT5e cables makes me itch a little bit. Think of the future man! Hell, some here will probably say that for true gigabit connection, you need CAT6 anyway. I'm not sure how true this is, but it's what I'd go ahead and do.
The world is slowly going toward "terrorist until proven not". Eventually, people will be flocking to security that's as simple as this. And by that time, there will be other security measurements that have to do with features of our biology. Be glad that today you can sit there with a smirk, talking about how you have a choice over security or not. In the future, it's very different.
(smirk) Also, I have not given google my phone number either. (/smirk)
Very interesting, thanks. It's very cool when people, as you just did, respond with knowledge in a way that isn't offensively propping themselves up on a pedestal. Makes me glad to still visit slashdot.
Well, is it really 3rd grade stuff, or is that all that you can relate it to? Connecting the dots is the art of life my friend. There is a lot more that I'd like to say about this, but it's really not proper for slashdot.
Dealing With an Unresponsive Manufacturer Who Doesn't Fix Bugs?
Dunno, it's a good question. But I'm sure that someone at slashdot can answer it with the same reasoning that they' use to still be apparently trying to roll out the beta design, despite the fact that some of it's own users (customers???) have in their sig, "FUCK BETA".
These are also the only mammals (or anything for that matter) that have blowholes. They're both mammals. And both have tails that are flat horizontally rather than vertically. They both also are capable of being thankful to other species when it applies.
I guess I just don't see this as a case of "justice has been done" (although maybe it was) as much as it exemplifies the wastefulness of our legal system.
I can't tell if we agree or not. I think we do. But the point of this original post wasn't anything to do with the legal system, or any of that, but rather the ability to fire someone for $reason or $no_reason. It's a silly fallacy, because everyone can be fired for a "messy desk" in the end.
If you want to get into the ridiculousness of civil law, then look up asset forfeiture.
Ok, I didn't think of it in that way. I was thinking in terms of:
user-device-->interface-->computers-owned-by-service-->calculations(maybe)-->interface-->user-device etc...
If what you're saying relates, then the data is not owned by "service", but by the "user", and the "user" can freely move that data to whatever "service" they wish. Is that correct? Because honestly, every time I hear "the cloud", I only think "Utah Data Center".
Of course. But it's simply a remote place or places that data sits, and is "served" accordingly. The rest is just bells and whistles. In a scenario where we call rent-a-car, "cars in the cloud", we would be just as silly.
they can hack me without warrants, can I hack them without warrants?
Of course you can do whatever you want. But the real question is, can you convince hundreds of thousands of people to fight a war in your good name? Can you have people work on military weaponry in order to kill large amounts of people in your good name? Because if you can convince hundreds of thousands of people to enlist in your "army" full of weapons that were developed blindly, all in the name of money or whatever, and are capable of launching a large-scale attack on any country that you wish, while all of the rest of the world simply decides to stay out of it, then shit man, you can do whatever you want. But this would take years and years of careful planning, and execution of said plan in a way that no one really understands what's going on. The Nazis failed because they tried to do it all in one generation. It takes year, my friend.
Seriously though, no law exists simply by being on paper. It's up to men (and women) to decide what's right or wrong, write laws, follow those laws, and enforce those laws. These day, however, it appears that people have stopped caring about right or wrong. It's all about the !!!$$$BLING$$$BLING$$$!!!
We keep this stupid term "cloud" as if we're all idiots. "The Cloud" is a term made up for simple people that are using it as a place to store their pics and stuff. It's a marketing term.
Re-read this article and replace "cloud" with "isolated remote server" and all of the worries just slip away.
Maybe they could have gotten over their differences and avoided this huge waste of resources.
I'm with you there. The whole thing was rather "catty".
Why was the penalty for wrongly firing your coworker so high?
Turns out that when you sue someone, there's no limit to what you're allowed to sue for. Getting that amount is a different story. In this case, I think that they may have taken into account the job that she did, the local market for said job, and her own personal "pain" for having to go through this, as well as her lawyer's costs. It's common for a lawyer to get 1/3.
Another thing that didn't help the company is the fact that they had recently been through a class-action lawsuit that cost them hundreds of thousands of dollars and exposed their ridiculous management's mindset regarding how they paid their employees hourly, limited them to getting paid for 40 hour weeks, but required them to work 50 or 60 hours a week.
I could go on and on about this company, I could even tell you their name, and where they are. This, however, isn't relevant to the original point: You can be fired for a messy desk, if a reason is required.
I know you're right, but if people continue to use the programs that uses them as a product, then what is the government supposed to do? If everyone stopped using these stupid virtual society programs (facebook, twiter, snapchat, etc...) then there wouldn't be this huge amount of data, making the law enforcement agency's mouths water.
I remember back in 2007 I told people that they were silly to use facebook as it was a data-mining operation. I was basically told to get a tin-foil hat. I put on the tin-foil hat, but they all still joined!
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If we're going to send people into another planet, why not first see about sending people that are already dying? It seems to me that it's possible that moving out of your planet's magnetic field could have implications beyond what we'd normally expect.
Wouldn't it be just as cheap, more secure and faster to ship if you kept automation in your own country?
At some point it's going to come down to the cost of electricity.
So, when an ape kills another ape, will we be sending it to jail?
Not if he can get a snake to represent him in a way that clears him.
Specifically, what is happening that you dislike as a result of corporate personhood? I just want to understand where you are coming from here. Please be specific.
I don't know about them, but what I don't like is that the corporation has rights observed by courts, but it has no physical body that can be incarcerated.
Well said. Let us not forget that cars, dolls, and shoes have something that a corporation doesn't have: a physical existence.
Chimpanzees will eventually die of their own natural causes. They end, and their effects on the world will end.
sed -e 's/Chimpanzees/Humans/'
The NSA was established in Nov 4, 1952
The history of the Internet begins with the development of electronic computers in the 1950s. Initial concepts of packet networking originated in several computer science laboratories in the United States, Great Britain, and France. The US Department of Defense awarded contracts as early as the 1960s for packet network systems, including the development of the ARPANET (which would become the first network to use the Internet Protocol.)
The users are the product, not the customer.
Not necessarily. Adblock Plus 2.6.4 (for firefox) blocks all of slashdot's ads.
There was no other way, my friend. And now, thanks to the work and discoveries made by these scientists, third graders have another way to compare dauphins and whales. Generally, great discoveries can be made from connecting dots, regardless what "grade" those dots seem to exist in.
One bit that I find extremely interesting (and beyond what we covered in third grade):
Baleen whales have two blowholes positioned in a V-shape while toothed whales have only one blowhole. The blowhole of a sperm whale, a toothed whale, is located left of center in the frontal area of the snout, and is actually its left nostril, while the right nostril lacks an opening to the surface despite the fact that its nasal passage is otherwise well developed. --wikipedia
For future needs, and since he's already in the attic doing the work, he "needs" CAT6 cable. Thinking of grudgingly climbing through the attic to install CAT5e cables makes me itch a little bit. Think of the future man! Hell, some here will probably say that for true gigabit connection, you need CAT6 anyway. I'm not sure how true this is, but it's what I'd go ahead and do.
The world is slowly going toward "terrorist until proven not". Eventually, people will be flocking to security that's as simple as this. And by that time, there will be other security measurements that have to do with features of our biology. Be glad that today you can sit there with a smirk, talking about how you have a choice over security or not. In the future, it's very different.
(smirk) Also, I have not given google my phone number either. (/smirk)
Very interesting, thanks. It's very cool when people, as you just did, respond with knowledge in a way that isn't offensively propping themselves up on a pedestal. Makes me glad to still visit slashdot.
Well, is it really 3rd grade stuff, or is that all that you can relate it to? Connecting the dots is the art of life my friend. There is a lot more that I'd like to say about this, but it's really not proper for slashdot.
Dealing With an Unresponsive Manufacturer Who Doesn't Fix Bugs?
Dunno, it's a good question. But I'm sure that someone at slashdot can answer it with the same reasoning that they' use to still be apparently trying to roll out the beta design, despite the fact that some of it's own users (customers???) have in their sig, "FUCK BETA".
These are also the only mammals (or anything for that matter) that have blowholes. They're both mammals. And both have tails that are flat horizontally rather than vertically. They both also are capable of being thankful to other species when it applies.
I guess I just don't see this as a case of "justice has been done" (although maybe it was) as much as it exemplifies the wastefulness of our legal system.
I can't tell if we agree or not. I think we do. But the point of this original post wasn't anything to do with the legal system, or any of that, but rather the ability to fire someone for $reason or $no_reason. It's a silly fallacy, because everyone can be fired for a "messy desk" in the end.
If you want to get into the ridiculousness of civil law, then look up asset forfeiture.
Offer every hacker 70 unactivated Windows 8 licenses to return to Microsoft for a refund?
Uhh, let's see...
Windows 8.1 = $175.00
Number of hackers world-wide (how to figure this...?) = 100,000?
I don't understand. Are you supposing that with a mere 17.5 million dollars, you will conquer the world? Using hackers??
zipcar or lyft or uber are similar paradigms
Ok, I didn't think of it in that way. I was thinking in terms of:
user-device-->interface-->computers-owned-by-service-->calculations(maybe)-->interface-->user-device etc...
If what you're saying relates, then the data is not owned by "service", but by the "user", and the "user" can freely move that data to whatever "service" they wish. Is that correct? Because honestly, every time I hear "the cloud", I only think "Utah Data Center".
Of course. But it's simply a remote place or places that data sits, and is "served" accordingly. The rest is just bells and whistles. In a scenario where we call rent-a-car, "cars in the cloud", we would be just as silly.
they can hack me without warrants, can I hack them without warrants?
Of course you can do whatever you want. But the real question is, can you convince hundreds of thousands of people to fight a war in your good name? Can you have people work on military weaponry in order to kill large amounts of people in your good name? Because if you can convince hundreds of thousands of people to enlist in your "army" full of weapons that were developed blindly, all in the name of money or whatever, and are capable of launching a large-scale attack on any country that you wish, while all of the rest of the world simply decides to stay out of it, then shit man, you can do whatever you want. But this would take years and years of careful planning, and execution of said plan in a way that no one really understands what's going on. The Nazis failed because they tried to do it all in one generation. It takes year, my friend.
Seriously though, no law exists simply by being on paper. It's up to men (and women) to decide what's right or wrong, write laws, follow those laws, and enforce those laws. These day, however, it appears that people have stopped caring about right or wrong. It's all about the !!!$$$BLING$$$BLING$$$!!!
I think it's fairly safe to say that anyone reading slashdot is looking for sensationalism.
We keep this stupid term "cloud" as if we're all idiots. "The Cloud" is a term made up for simple people that are using it as a place to store their pics and stuff. It's a marketing term.
Re-read this article and replace "cloud" with "isolated remote server" and all of the worries just slip away.
Maybe they could have gotten over their differences and avoided this huge waste of resources.
I'm with you there. The whole thing was rather "catty".
Why was the penalty for wrongly firing your coworker so high?
Turns out that when you sue someone, there's no limit to what you're allowed to sue for. Getting that amount is a different story. In this case, I think that they may have taken into account the job that she did, the local market for said job, and her own personal "pain" for having to go through this, as well as her lawyer's costs. It's common for a lawyer to get 1/3.
Another thing that didn't help the company is the fact that they had recently been through a class-action lawsuit that cost them hundreds of thousands of dollars and exposed their ridiculous management's mindset regarding how they paid their employees hourly, limited them to getting paid for 40 hour weeks, but required them to work 50 or 60 hours a week.
I could go on and on about this company, I could even tell you their name, and where they are. This, however, isn't relevant to the original point: You can be fired for a messy desk, if a reason is required.
I know you're right, but if people continue to use the programs that uses them as a product, then what is the government supposed to do? If everyone stopped using these stupid virtual society programs (facebook, twiter, snapchat, etc...) then there wouldn't be this huge amount of data, making the law enforcement agency's mouths water.
I remember back in 2007 I told people that they were silly to use facebook as it was a data-mining operation. I was basically told to get a tin-foil hat. I put on the tin-foil hat, but they all still joined!
She didn't HAVE a Facebook account. They created it for her. Using their reasoning they could do the same to you.
Right, so maybe you should re-read my original post.