Hard to do an economical DOS when you can create from thin air new money and they can't Is not money the problem, but time (or at least already built units in each side at the moment/place where are needed)
At last a computer that can be safe even in a cyberwar, no modern hacker would be able to enter there, or at least, do anything dangerous. Even the Morris worm would scream and run facing that technology. Leave that multivac running enough time and will eventually make light.
If its patented and only usable by one company the idea of everyone aware of the actions of the friends of your friends, then that privacy nightmare will became unpopular.
What about not random, but the amount of variables involved is high and not all known or acknowledged by all the players? The algorithm could be simpler than the process, but for running it you need information that some of the players won't disclose.
Anyway, some of the key elements could be related to complex enough system (i.e. weather, how Katrina changed markets? how predictable it was with i.e. 2 weeks in advance? o human behaviour unrelated to market, like 911)
My point is that if well in digital age i would think normal than copies of it being everywhere, in 1700 still someone could have made copies or somehow made public the critical points, if had something that could revolutionize their views.
If they were buried in a private collection where noone could see them and tell that had something revolutionary, then that had being stolen would had made no difference.
Too used to the digital age to think right about it. How something know and being somewhat available for 200 years before they were stolen could revolutionize something now because were recovered? I suppose that now that letters will be available both as scanned images, pdfs, plain text and even google books, but still, if when they were available (and if not well full copies, but at least references could have been made of the critical points) couldn't make a revolution, should have little chance by now.
My toughs when reading the summary is why he didnt show them that xkcd link just as an easy introduction before going saying to them "was funny, no? Now i will show how YOUR server was rooted in the same way"
Most of what is special about Mozart music is not in the music, is in us. It have meaning, we gave meaning to it, even if is just music, if a machine would generate something similar, and we know that is a machine and not a prodigy child, we maybe would just see it as a collection of sounds, maybe that kind of music would have never been popular if noone special had put it into our common culture.
... is social engineering. No firewall can isolate you from human stupidity, and more accessible information about everything (that either is public, or can be obtained thru directed trojans/botnets) gives good base for such kind of approach.
The other solution to stop the attack, is to disconnect all the network cables that access any other country. Leaving you with an internet that spans North America Alone
There are 2 kinds of denial of service attacks:
- The one where i fill your connections/process/whatever so noone else could access you
- The one where i just scare you, and you turn off your servers because big bad wolf is somewhere outside
Guess wich one is the more effective, and will damage you (and probably everyone else) more.
If [this] is a valid precedent, then in any moment slashdot admins could be convicted in Italy for an AC comment.
I think the safest best is that the slashdot mothership corporation CEO's might be held liable for slashdot posts.
Exactly what do you mean by admins? Sysadmins? Were any Google sysadmins held liable in this case?
Whoever at Slashdot that an italian judge could think that is responsible for that comment to remain visible. Whatever fits better at the role that those convicted google workers had.
Or any of us, if we didnt promoted down that comment when had moderating points.
Were any youtube users held liable in this case?
Yes, is in the 1st paragraph of the google response, the one that posted it online got 10 months of jail.
Exactly what do you base your statements on? I'm not a lawyer, and I don't know Italian law, but I think it could say that CEOs are liable, but not other staff and certainly not users/consumers/customers. How do you know it doesn't?
Well, wasn't convicted Google CEOs for sure, and in fact, the convicted ones arent working at Google since 2 years ago, the charge for allowing the video to be posted online, making possible a privacy violation. Moderating/promoting comments (or promoting stories out of firehose) here make them more visible, more public, maybe would have no sense for us to be liable, but in weirdland they could think it is eventually, just give them enough time.
If IE6 weren't from Microsoft, but still had the same endemic big security problems, being actively exploited from everywhere, not interest in fixes from the making company and being used still by 10-20% of internet, specially in the corporate world, probably Google would phase out the support anyway.
Regarding Microsoft/Bing, Firefox never had so big holes, and so actively exploited, like IE6. And anyway old versions have very low usage, and odds are high that that users dont visit bing (most of its niceties are based on silverlight, they are excluding browsers/OS already)
Also matter how much used is an old, insecure version, compared with another "players" of internet, like other browsers versions, or even old flash player versions. Only in IE the old, insecure and unmaintained version is widely used, in the others the most used versions are the latest or close enough, and without very big vulnerabilities anyway (ok, maybe with the exception of flash)
If is a valid precedent, then in any moment slashdot admins could be convicted in Italy for an AC comment. Or any of us, if we didnt promoted down that comment when had moderating points.
At how much Farenheit the digital records combust? Wont be so dark that ages, at least while the fire last.
A century later, we will still will find buried snapshots of wikipedia on devices like WikiReader.With paper books making copies is expensive,to one kind of device usually, and takes a lot of space. Digital records,in the other hand,could be put in a lot of ways, but what must be preserved is how to decode or interpret it (using open formats for it could help a bit there).
Different versions all around? Is not so much Android (or google) who decides to upgrade the android version on a particular device. Is the carrier or the maker, specially when makers or carriers customize or add their own apps to their own devices. Different hardware means apps not working in all devices? In PC we have something of that...apps that requires over certian amount of ram or hd, apps that take advantage of certain hardware that could be missing for some funcionality (don't even have a printer).That has fragmented the PC market?
Has linux kernel fragmented because it runs from embedded hardware to mainframes and supercomputers? Flexibility and adaptability to whatever hardware it want to be installed is a strenght, not a weakness. Android is being installed in cellphones, netbooks, tablets and other devices and if some devels don't take that into account is not the platform fault.
The key component there is visiting with an insecure browser a "trusted" site. No matter if uses an antivirus to check whatever he is aware to download, the site exploited a vulnerability on the browser (that if well is not named there, IE have all the tickets) and in that way compromised his machine (no matter if was with admin or just that user priviledges, for what have to do to be as user is enough).
No matter neither if use secure or insecure connection, once he went to internet, is the machine and not the connection the compromised one...and that is enough.
Regarding your other points, no matter where he is, while he can visit that site, And about programs crashing and having strange behavior... ever used windows/IE?
Beware, you could get suspended in your school for posting as AC in slashdot, thats just the next step... and ok, if well most AC comments on slashdot somewhat deserve suspension or jail, this one in particular don't.
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Hard to do an economical DOS when you can create from thin air new money and they can't Is not money the problem, but time (or at least already built units in each side at the moment/place where are needed)
A few rounds in very lagged FPS games and will eventually adapt to shoot to something that is not there since 5 seconds ago.
At last a computer that can be safe even in a cyberwar, no modern hacker would be able to enter there, or at least, do anything dangerous. Even the Morris worm would scream and run facing that technology. Leave that multivac running enough time and will eventually make light.
If its patented and only usable by one company the idea of everyone aware of the actions of the friends of your friends, then that privacy nightmare will became unpopular.
What about not random, but the amount of variables involved is high and not all known or acknowledged by all the players?
The algorithm could be simpler than the process, but for running it you need information that some of the players won't disclose.
Anyway, some of the key elements could be related to complex enough system (i.e. weather, how Katrina changed markets? how predictable it was with i.e. 2 weeks in advance? o human behaviour unrelated to market, like 911)
My point is that if well in digital age i would think normal than copies of it being everywhere, in 1700 still someone could have made copies or somehow made public the critical points, if had something that could revolutionize their views. If they were buried in a private collection where noone could see them and tell that had something revolutionary, then that had being stolen would had made no difference.
Too used to the digital age to think right about it. How something know and being somewhat available for 200 years before they were stolen could revolutionize something now because were recovered? I suppose that now that letters will be available both as scanned images, pdfs, plain text and even google books, but still, if when they were available (and if not well full copies, but at least references could have been made of the critical points) couldn't make a revolution, should have little chance by now.
My toughs when reading the summary is why he didnt show them that xkcd link just as an easy introduction before going saying to them "was funny, no? Now i will show how YOUR server was rooted in the same way"
Once you start to think, magic stop working. If OS market share teach us something, is that they will sell millons.
New set of domains acquired and botnet spamming again in 3..2..1..
Most of what is special about Mozart music is not in the music, is in us. It have meaning, we gave meaning to it, even if is just music, if a machine would generate something similar, and we know that is a machine and not a prodigy child, we maybe would just see it as a collection of sounds, maybe that kind of music would have never been popular if noone special had put it into our common culture.
Maybe that was the meaning of 301 if such proposal is taken into account.
... is social engineering. No firewall can isolate you from human stupidity, and more accessible information about everything (that either is public, or can be obtained thru directed trojans/botnets) gives good base for such kind of approach.
The other solution to stop the attack, is to disconnect all the network cables that access any other country. Leaving you with an internet that spans North America Alone
There are 2 kinds of denial of service attacks:
- The one where i fill your connections/process/whatever so noone else could access you
- The one where i just scare you, and you turn off your servers because big bad wolf is somewhere outside
Guess wich one is the more effective, and will damage you (and probably everyone else) more.
If [this] is a valid precedent, then in any moment slashdot admins could be convicted in Italy for an AC comment.
I think the safest best is that the slashdot mothership corporation CEO's might be held liable for slashdot posts.
Exactly what do you mean by admins? Sysadmins? Were any Google sysadmins held liable in this case?
Whoever at Slashdot that an italian judge could think that is responsible for that comment to remain visible. Whatever fits better at the role that those convicted google workers had.
Or any of us, if we didnt promoted down that comment when had moderating points.
Were any youtube users held liable in this case?
Yes, is in the 1st paragraph of the google response, the one that posted it online got 10 months of jail.
Exactly what do you base your statements on? I'm not a lawyer, and I don't know Italian law, but I think it could say that CEOs are liable, but not other staff and certainly not users/consumers/customers. How do you know it doesn't?
Well, wasn't convicted Google CEOs for sure, and in fact, the convicted ones arent working at Google since 2 years ago, the charge for allowing the video to be posted online, making possible a privacy violation. Moderating/promoting comments (or promoting stories out of firehose) here make them more visible, more public, maybe would have no sense for us to be liable, but in weirdland they could think it is eventually, just give them enough time.
If IE6 weren't from Microsoft, but still had the same endemic big security problems, being actively exploited from everywhere, not interest in fixes from the making company and being used still by 10-20% of internet, specially in the corporate world, probably Google would phase out the support anyway.
Regarding Microsoft/Bing, Firefox never had so big holes, and so actively exploited, like IE6. And anyway old versions have very low usage, and odds are high that that users dont visit bing (most of its niceties are based on silverlight, they are excluding browsers/OS already)
Also matter how much used is an old, insecure version, compared with another "players" of internet, like other browsers versions, or even old flash player versions. Only in IE the old, insecure and unmaintained version is widely used, in the others the most used versions are the latest or close enough, and without very big vulnerabilities anyway (ok, maybe with the exception of flash)
If is a valid precedent, then in any moment slashdot admins could be convicted in Italy for an AC comment. Or any of us, if we didnt promoted down that comment when had moderating points.
At how much Farenheit the digital records combust? Wont be so dark that ages, at least while the fire last.
A century later, we will still will find buried snapshots of wikipedia on devices like WikiReader.With paper books making copies is expensive,to one kind of device usually, and takes a lot of space. Digital records,in the other hand,could be put in a lot of ways, but what must be preserved is how to decode or interpret it (using open formats for it could help a bit there).
Different versions all around? Is not so much Android (or google) who decides to upgrade the android version on a particular device. Is the carrier or the maker, specially when makers or carriers customize or add their own apps to their own devices.
Different hardware means apps not working in all devices? In PC we have something of that...apps that requires over certian amount of ram or hd, apps that take advantage of certain hardware that could be missing for some funcionality (don't even have a printer).That has fragmented the PC market?
Has linux kernel fragmented because it runs from embedded hardware to mainframes and supercomputers? Flexibility and adaptability to whatever hardware it want to be installed is a strenght, not a weakness. Android is being installed in cellphones, netbooks, tablets and other devices and if some devels don't take that into account is not the platform fault.
The key component there is visiting with an insecure browser a "trusted" site. No matter if uses an antivirus to check whatever he is aware to download, the site exploited a vulnerability on the browser (that if well is not named there, IE have all the tickets) and in that way compromised his machine (no matter if was with admin or just that user priviledges, for what have to do to be as user is enough).
No matter neither if use secure or insecure connection, once he went to internet, is the machine and not the connection the compromised one...and that is enough.
Regarding your other points, no matter where he is, while he can visit that site, And about programs crashing and having strange behavior... ever used windows/IE?
Clicked in the link too. My browser crashed and now extrange lett$(@#& all is working normally. Nothing to see here, move along.
We are talking about $100.000, my precious.
Beware, you could get suspended in your school for posting as AC in slashdot, thats just the next step... and ok, if well most AC comments on slashdot somewhat deserve suspension or jail, this one in particular don't.
5-10? more probably will be around 20. Inertia happens. xkcd too.
Just having to pay and maintain an antivirus for all/most computers in a company is a cyberloss. The cyberattack that caused it comes from the 80's.