Yes. Netstation and others like Thinstation and PXES (all in sourceforge.net). All of them are related projects (I do not remember which one is the original and which are the derivatives). They usuallay boot via Etherboot floppy, as are too large to fit into a floppy themselves. One of those (I do not remember which) can be installed on a Windows server, having any Linux station installed. OTOH, when I investigated about this, I modified a LEAF-Dachstein Linux floppy router. The result was a Linux self contained on a floppy booting and starting rdesktop on framebuffer (via NanoX and VESA 2.0). Not a so easy thing to do, but feasible. Lamentably it didn't work for us, as lots of our oldies didn't have VESA 2.0 video cards, and a svgalib version didn't work well.
Java designers rarely stopped to think about anything. You find examples in AWT, I/O, and I guess a lot other places, but I didn't touch it seriously in years, as I got disappointed when find the differences between the hype and the real language.
those government reports include, besides the objective description of cost/benefits into their organization, the positive "social" issues involved if their pick FOSS, in the sense of:
* Home contracted taylorings and enhancements, instead of buying foreign "enhanced" versions from the original editor, leads to more local IT employment.
* The attractiveness of government as customer leads to more FOSS awareness in the market, extending the viability, and then, the benefits they already found for themselves on smaller firms and organizations. That is, if they think is good for they and adopt it, then it could become good for at least some of the people the government supossedly work for.
Of course, it is harder to apply in USA where most of proprietary software if produced (point one semi-voided), and it is harder to apply everywhere government don't really care about their people's walfare.
The difference is, Linux still stands against most attacks that even smart Windows users are vulnerable, as early infections of worms not yet in antivirus databases.
I'm not a Romanian, but a Spanish native speaker myself, however using Google with the word stii shows a Romanian link as the first non-English one. Further searchs with "Romania frate" and "Romania belea" confirm this.
Sadly, I'm sure there are scenarios where ActiveX are the only answer, and neither Java Applets or FF things would currently help.
My degree project is, because an external design constraint, a web app. Besides that, it is an intranet app with few reasons to be built in that way. Some parts are nice and very convenient as web apps, because of their persuasive nature along the entire building. However, one of the things this apps should be able to do is to scan and archive some legal documents. The only feasible way we found is using an ActiveX inset, and limiting that functionality to Windows only.
The real matter is, $185 without monitor is a nice low pricetag (even when high for its performance, as already noted). But I want to know the price *without* Win CE. I find personally no reason to use/want any crippled OS, no XP Starter, no WinCE.
I hope that in the long run there is no such a race, with freedesktop.org standards, cross-toolkit theming, and apps being able to use the standard dialogs from the running DE. One important matter is the button ordering issue. As Gnome's Cancel/Ok choice seems pretty stupid to me. Not the choice by itself, but as a change from previous versions, and being different with most another app you can run. Being Windows the most used UI and the most used in the same hardware most people could run Gnome doesn't help neither (If Gnome would be for Macs or Macs users it'll be ok). But KDE apps are running on Macs too, and the Ok/Cancel is also troublesome then. I think both projects should make the ordering a choice, maybe hidden en Gnome as they like, maybe as two more radio buttons in the Control Center in KDE, maybe in a common mechanism agreed in freedesktop.org, but giving users a more consistent (yet being mixed) desktop.
I don't see that as code, but as configuration. But if you don't like it, simply go with Gnome, or anything else. Or again, you can modify/fork it, as happens with Goneme. Or just be on your own, as there are no further options...
You CAN simplify at least part of the UI, as it is defined in XML. The trouble with your approach is KDE is built for a lot of people, not just for you or me, so it can't show just "all the options I use" (I sometimes like to experiment with those things, though), yet you can get an environment fitting your tastes with variable degree of dificulty. They are trying to control the UI complexity, anyway, and if you like Gnome, that's ok, it's just a matter of choice. Of course, there is the Pat is dropping Gnome thing, but I guess there is Dropline and enough Slackware/Gnome users hackers out there so there is no really a problem, maybe just an annoyance. Personally I dislike Gnome, I always had, but still like to be able to run Gtk/Gnome apps sometimes.
Sorry, but sometimes Debian dependencies are wrong, and the abuse of the system leads to a zillion of tiny packages that makes the thing a mess, specially when you really want/need to compile from source. Don't tell when some years ago I uninstalled my 16 color X server and Debian pulls the whole X off the disk. Of course my anger pulls the rest of Debian then, and I went back to Slackware. Of course YMMV. I had to work with Debian anyway, and I like doing apt-get install xxx and get the thing working, but that doesn't always happens.
Me too, however even loving KDE so much, and thinking the environment matured and not being so necessary mixing environments, having the Gnome core libs still there should be nice, in order to run some apps, even when I should pick those apps from linuxpackages or compile them myself.
I was actually willing to mod you down, but as I didn't feel ignorance as a fair reason (and neither in the modding list)... BenjyD refers Slack as a one-man distro just because Pat created it and is mostly its only maintainer and official packager. When Slackware was supported by a CD distributor (it was Walnut Creek?) he had a few lieutenants, but I guess he currently does the job alone. On the other hand, I guess Slackware ALWAYS has multiuser, as Linux by design always was, and only in the very early days the Linux init sequence was just to start bash (and that doesn't means that multiuser capability wasn't quite there). I didn't see that, but I'm booting Slack since 1995 and I never heard anything such a non-multiuser Linux distro, besides those end-user oriented new distros as Lindows.
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Yes. Netstation and others like Thinstation and PXES (all in sourceforge.net).
All of them are related projects (I do not remember which one is the original and which are the derivatives).
They usuallay boot via Etherboot floppy, as are too large to fit into a floppy themselves. One of those (I do not remember which) can be installed on a Windows server, having any Linux station installed.
OTOH, when I investigated about this, I modified a LEAF-Dachstein Linux floppy router.
The result was a Linux self contained on a floppy booting and starting rdesktop on framebuffer (via NanoX and VESA 2.0). Not a so easy thing to do, but feasible.
Lamentably it didn't work for us, as lots of our oldies didn't have VESA 2.0 video cards, and a svgalib version didn't work well.
Well, Im still waiting for Smalltalk blocks.
Listeners inner classes don't appeal me.
Java designers rarely stopped to think about anything. You find examples in AWT, I/O, and I guess a lot other places, but I didn't touch it seriously in years, as I got disappointed when find the differences between the hype and the real language.
Easy joke
those government reports include, besides the objective description of cost/benefits into their organization, the positive "social" issues involved if their pick FOSS, in the sense of:
* Home contracted taylorings and enhancements, instead of buying foreign "enhanced" versions from the original editor, leads to more local IT employment.
* The attractiveness of government as customer leads to more FOSS awareness in the market, extending the viability, and then, the benefits they already found for themselves on smaller firms and organizations. That is, if they think is good for they and adopt it, then it could become good for at least some of the people the government supossedly work for.
Of course, it is harder to apply in USA where most of proprietary software if produced (point one semi-voided), and it is harder to apply everywhere government don't really care about their people's walfare.
The difference is, Linux still stands against most attacks that even smart Windows users are vulnerable, as early infections of worms not yet in antivirus databases.
I'm not a Romanian, but a Spanish native speaker myself, however using Google with the word stii shows a Romanian link as the first non-English one. Further searchs with "Romania frate" and "Romania belea" confirm this.
Sadly, I'm sure there are scenarios where ActiveX are the only answer, and neither Java Applets or FF things would currently help.
My degree project is, because an external design constraint, a web app. Besides that, it is an intranet app with few reasons to be built in that way. Some parts are nice and very convenient as web apps, because of their persuasive nature along the entire building.
However, one of the things this apps should be able to do is to scan and archive some legal documents.
The only feasible way we found is using an ActiveX inset, and limiting that functionality to Windows only.
The real matter is, $185 without monitor is a nice low pricetag (even when high for its performance, as already noted).
But I want to know the price *without* Win CE.
I find personally no reason to use/want any crippled OS, no XP Starter, no WinCE.
Renault already bought this?
The crappy ZDNet.au site and its CSS that render text invisible.
Of course, I think I will not so lucky to get the first! :-D
And what would procedures and functions be if not subroutines?
Kemeny's (that was the guy's name, wasn't it?) BASIC didn't have FUNCTION and SUBs as we currently mean. Ours are a ALGOLism, I guess.
Instead, you had:
10 A=20
20 GOSUB 100
30 PRINT B$
40 STOP
100 B$="HELL"
110 FOR I=1 TO A
120 B$=B$+"O"
130 RETURN
That is, subroutines wasn't named, but called by its line number, had no neither parameters nor private variables.
You see! I love those guys! :-)
> Why does KDE have to create their own copy of everything?
Answer 1: Why not?
Answer 2: Consistency?
> I saw no way to switch my default web browser to Mozilla or Firefox.
Look harder. (Tip: File associations)
> Do we really need fifty different web browsers out there?
No, we need standard compliant browsers. Konqui is not perfect, Firefox is nice but is not perfect neither.
Firefox is not GNOME's.
Nautilus is the counterpart for Konqui, but being web-able, Gnome prefers separate browsers.
I hope that in the long run there is no such a race, with freedesktop.org standards, cross-toolkit theming, and apps being able to use the standard dialogs from the running DE.
One important matter is the button ordering issue. As Gnome's Cancel/Ok choice seems pretty stupid to me. Not the choice by itself, but as a change from previous versions, and being different with most another app you can run. Being Windows the most used UI and the most used in the same hardware most people could run Gnome doesn't help neither (If Gnome would be for Macs or Macs users it'll be ok).
But KDE apps are running on Macs too, and the Ok/Cancel is also troublesome then.
I think both projects should make the ordering a choice, maybe hidden en Gnome as they like, maybe as two more radio buttons in the Control Center in KDE, maybe in a common mechanism agreed in freedesktop.org, but giving users a more consistent (yet being mixed) desktop.
Mod down the troll, please!
He doesn't like neither KDE nor Gnome, no reason to let him heat people more than necessary.
Why do we have to follow the conceptual desktop UI that MS has laid out?
Two words: Try Kasbar.
You could also disable desktop icons, and set click on desktop to open KMenu.
Magic! You got a Windowmaker feel in a KDE desktop.
I don't see that as code, but as configuration.
But if you don't like it, simply go with Gnome, or anything else. Or again, you can modify/fork it, as happens with Goneme. Or just be on your own, as there are no further options...
Oops! well, I can't, as I already posted I can't mod this story anymore. :-P
So please do it yourself... Ouch!!!!
You CAN simplify at least part of the UI, as it is defined in XML.
The trouble with your approach is KDE is built for a lot of people, not just for you or me, so it can't show just "all the options I use" (I sometimes like to experiment with those things, though), yet you can get an environment fitting your tastes with variable degree of dificulty.
They are trying to control the UI complexity, anyway, and if you like Gnome, that's ok, it's just a matter of choice.
Of course, there is the Pat is dropping Gnome thing, but I guess there is Dropline and enough Slackware/Gnome users hackers out there so there is no really a problem, maybe just an annoyance.
Personally I dislike Gnome, I always had, but still like to be able to run Gtk/Gnome apps sometimes.
Sorry, but sometimes Debian dependencies are wrong, and the abuse of the system leads to a zillion of tiny packages that makes the thing a mess, specially when you really want/need to compile from source.
Don't tell when some years ago I uninstalled my 16 color X server and Debian pulls the whole X off the disk. Of course my anger pulls the rest of Debian then, and I went back to Slackware.
Of course YMMV. I had to work with Debian anyway, and I like doing apt-get install xxx and get the thing working, but that doesn't always happens.
Me too, however even loving KDE so much, and thinking the environment matured and not being so necessary mixing environments, having the Gnome core libs still there should be nice, in order to run some apps, even when I should pick those apps from linuxpackages or compile them myself.
I was actually willing to mod you down, but as I didn't feel ignorance as a fair reason (and neither in the modding list)...
BenjyD refers Slack as a one-man distro just because Pat created it and is mostly its only maintainer and official packager. When Slackware was supported by a CD distributor (it was Walnut Creek?) he had a few lieutenants, but I guess he currently does the job alone.
On the other hand, I guess Slackware ALWAYS has multiuser, as Linux by design always was, and only in the very early days the Linux init sequence was just to start bash (and that doesn't means that multiuser capability wasn't quite there).
I didn't see that, but I'm booting Slack since 1995 and I never heard anything such a non-multiuser Linux distro, besides those end-user oriented new distros as Lindows.