This is just the sort of bastardization I hate. If you want to run Linux (I do (Run it that is.)), buy/build an f'ing computer. PS2's may be cheap, but by the time you've got a keyboard/mouse, etc, it just doesn't loook quite so attractive. Plus the onboad storage is so limited.
Ahh, thats right. That's not really as fast as it seems though. That's 1 board brand user or a few 56kers. Definatly NOT practical for major file hosting.
Okay, since no one seems to be getting it... (What a surprise on \.)
Simon Travaglia, writier of the Bastard Operator From Hell Series is employed (last time I checked at any rate) by Waikato University as a sysadmin.
So how long beforewe get NameOfATotalLosersuckssucks.com?
And then
NameOfATotalLosersuckssuckssucks.com?
And then
NameOfATotalLosersuckssuckssuckssucks.com?
Ad nauseum....
Python (http://www.python.org) is a great language for beginners, and not-so-beginners:)
Its features include:
Fast development time, which makes it more fun and productive.
Free (libre)
No compile step, although it is possible to 'compile' code on Macs and Windows so they can be run without a Python installation.
Fully object oriented.
Simple yet powerful syntax.
Cross platform
VERY powerful and flexible. I've done everything from CGI-based coporate helpdesk software to 3d rendering in Python. NB: By rendering I mean wireframe and non-shaded polys.
Yes, but your're missing some of my points. There's a diffirence between only changing when NESSESARY and not changing AT ALL. As for your comments about NT, daily reboots in a moderatly sized company ARE NOT a problem. We have about 300 employees in the main office, and maybe half that in other offices. Most of our stuff runs NT, although A: we run the databases on *nix, and we're moving steadily towards 2k. It WORKS for us. Is it perfect, no, but it gets the job done. Many of the programs we use have no practical OSS or even commerical *nix equivilants. Our IT staff (excluding the database people) is 3 in number, and yet we average 99% uptime.
True, true, I am BY NO MEANS approving of HP's pricing, but I also must say that they have VERY,VERY rarely let us down. We do use some OSS here (Python, Perl, Analog), so we aren't a totally closed source shop.
Personally, from my expirence working as a programmer in a corporate environment, many OSS tools will end up costing MORE than their non-free alternatives.
Lets consider some facts now:
Do the average Corp, the ability to modify software means precisly dick!
It's often hard to get good support of OSS. Good in this case means timely. If one of our HP servers goes down, we can be on the phone with a HP tech in less than 5 minutes. Trying getting a tech that quick with OSS, without paying through the nose in advance. Lost time == Lost Revenue
Retraining isn't free. If you're using Software XYZ, it's going to cost quite a bit to train your staff to use Software ABC
If it ain't broke don't fix it. When our commericial software does what we need it to do, why SHOULD we switch, and risk failure? This ain't somebodys home Linux firewall box we're talking about here.
To sum up, IS IT REALLY CHEAPER? In a large number of cases (not saying all) this is NOT true.
OSS software can be GREAT, but it isn't always the best tool for the job, and that, at the end of the day, is what REALLY matters.
Good article. Nice to see a long well though article on slashdot instead of the typical FUD tripe.
Now, as an amutuer musician, here's my take on this. Record companys in theory are a GOOD thing, as they would allow lesser known acts to get a chance. Very, VERY few people can actually afford to produce quality music and distribute it.
The current labels, for the most part, evil, but beleive it or not there are some who generally try to do the right thing as far as allowing fair use of their propertys. For example Albert Records out of Australia, their main act is AC/DC (YEA!) and they have published all AC/DC lyrics at http://albertmusic.com/acdc_lyrics.htm.
If I were given the chance to work Microsoft, I would jump at it. Why? Because job security is a good thing. I'm lucky enough to have a good programming position at a local company, who I also know will be around in a few years. My point is this: Microsoft employees many geeks in a reliable fashion. Hell, even Sun and Oracle are feeling the pinch, but is Microsoft? NOPE!
Quite simple really. They were 'fat and happy', and then IE comes and starts kicking their asses, and they start work on a browser that is basically unusable!
dum dum dum
ANOTHER ONE BITES THE DUST!
Do you really think someone reads the e-mails by hand? Lets say it takes 30 seconds to read an e-mail. As a *VERY* conservative estimate, let's say 100 million e-mails are sent every day. That works out to 833333 manhours per day. That's 34722 CONTINUOUS workers, or 104166 daily 8 hour shifts, with NO breaks and working at PERFECT efficieny. That's mean they'd have to employ about 0.1% of Americas work force. Do you really think they can do that? Let's say these poor SOBs have an annual salary of $50,000. That works out to $5,280,300,000 a year. 5.2 BILLION dollars. I doubt they could hide quite that much away. That's not even counting technical expenses!
On the other hand, whatever system you use is going to be a royal pain in the arse to your recipients. Is it REALLY worth it? On balance, I'd say no.
Please read before modding as troll...
I can actually see why Gracenote charges for the service. According to the letter, the charge is $0.06 per user, which I find quite reasonable, considering that they surely use quite a bit of bandwidth, and have quite a few servers to maintain. As for the issue of user submissions, I think the argument can be made that there really is no issue, as A: the users themselves pay nothing, and get quite a useful service. Another important note is that Gracenote gives FREE licenses to non-commercial 'vendors'. This way, those who use the technology in their commerical products pay a small per user fee to maintain the network, pay the editors salarys, etc, and free developers can still use it.
That said, I think the lawsuit is totally ludicrious, unless there WAS a clause in the contract, in which case, Roxio is obviously screwed...
I've never had any problems with the libraries in python.
For example, the following will load SlashDot (just the html code, not parse it), and e-mail me that it has done so.
import urllib,smtplib
slashdot=urllib.urlopen.read()
smtplib.connect('mail.local.com')
smtplib.sendmail('sender@send.org','tyler@tylereav es.com','Subject: Slashdot\n\nLoaded')
Slashdot Mirror
This is just the sort of bastardization I hate. If you want to run Linux (I do (Run it that is.)), buy/build an f'ing computer. PS2's may be cheap, but by the time you've got a keyboard/mouse, etc, it just doesn't loook quite so attractive. Plus the onboad storage is so limited.
Ahh, thats right. That's not really as fast as it seems though. That's 1 board brand user or a few 56kers. Definatly NOT practical for major file hosting.
What was your username again? *clickety click* What do you mean your files? I don't see anything here...
Okay, since no one seems to be getting it... (What a surprise on \.) Simon Travaglia, writier of the Bastard Operator From Hell Series is employed (last time I checked at any rate) by Waikato University as a sysadmin.
Why the BOFH of course....
Linux becomes more like Windows and MacOS?
So how long beforewe get NameOfATotalLosersuckssucks.com? And then NameOfATotalLosersuckssuckssucks.com? And then NameOfATotalLosersuckssuckssuckssucks.com? Ad nauseum....
...survival of the fittest! What's to be ashamed of?
- Fast development time, which makes it more fun and productive.
- Free (libre)
- No compile step, although it is possible to 'compile' code on Macs and Windows so they can be run without a Python installation.
- Fully object oriented.
- Simple yet powerful syntax.
- Cross platform
- VERY powerful and flexible. I've done everything from CGI-based coporate helpdesk software to 3d rendering in Python. NB: By rendering I mean wireframe and non-shaded polys.
- Many standard modules
- Etc...
In short, use the snakeYea, it's expensive and hard to read! WATCH IT FLY OFF THE SHELVES!
Yep, that's right! No more IE for me. I can't beleive they actually got a usable browser finally (I'm typing this in .9.1)!
That's an overall average. Our databases are more in the 99.5-99.7 range.
Yes, but your're missing some of my points. There's a diffirence between only changing when NESSESARY and not changing AT ALL. As for your comments about NT, daily reboots in a moderatly sized company ARE NOT a problem. We have about 300 employees in the main office, and maybe half that in other offices. Most of our stuff runs NT, although A: we run the databases on *nix, and we're moving steadily towards 2k. It WORKS for us. Is it perfect, no, but it gets the job done. Many of the programs we use have no practical OSS or even commerical *nix equivilants. Our IT staff (excluding the database people) is 3 in number, and yet we average 99% uptime.
True, true, I am BY NO MEANS approving of HP's pricing, but I also must say that they have VERY,VERY rarely let us down. We do use some OSS here (Python, Perl, Analog), so we aren't a totally closed source shop.
Lets consider some facts now:
- Do the average Corp, the ability to modify software means precisly dick!
- It's often hard to get good support of OSS. Good in this case means timely. If one of our HP servers goes down, we can be on the phone with a HP tech in less than 5 minutes. Trying getting a tech that quick with OSS, without paying through the nose in advance. Lost time == Lost Revenue
- Retraining isn't free. If you're using Software XYZ, it's going to cost quite a bit to train your staff to use Software ABC
- If it ain't broke don't fix it. When our commericial software does what we need it to do, why SHOULD we switch, and risk failure? This ain't somebodys home Linux firewall box we're talking about here.
To sum up, IS IT REALLY CHEAPER? In a large number of cases (not saying all) this is NOT true. OSS software can be GREAT, but it isn't always the best tool for the job, and that, at the end of the day, is what REALLY matters.Good article. Nice to see a long well though article on slashdot instead of the typical FUD tripe.
Now, as an amutuer musician, here's my take on this. Record companys in theory are a GOOD thing, as they would allow lesser known acts to get a chance. Very, VERY few people can actually afford to produce quality music and distribute it.
The current labels, for the most part, evil, but beleive it or not there are some who generally try to do the right thing as far as allowing fair use of their propertys. For example Albert Records out of Australia, their main act is AC/DC (YEA!) and they have published all AC/DC lyrics at http://albertmusic.com/acdc_lyrics.htm.
If I were given the chance to work Microsoft, I would jump at it. Why? Because job security is a good thing. I'm lucky enough to have a good programming position at a local company, who I also know will be around in a few years. My point is this: Microsoft employees many geeks in a reliable fashion. Hell, even Sun and Oracle are feeling the pinch, but is Microsoft? NOPE!
Quite simple really. They were 'fat and happy', and then IE comes and starts kicking their asses, and they start work on a browser that is basically unusable! dum dum dum ANOTHER ONE BITES THE DUST!
Do you really think someone reads the e-mails by hand? Lets say it takes 30 seconds to read an e-mail. As a *VERY* conservative estimate, let's say 100 million e-mails are sent every day. That works out to 833333 manhours per day. That's 34722 CONTINUOUS workers, or 104166 daily 8 hour shifts, with NO breaks and working at PERFECT efficieny. That's mean they'd have to employ about 0.1% of Americas work force. Do you really think they can do that? Let's say these poor SOBs have an annual salary of $50,000. That works out to $5,280,300,000 a year. 5.2 BILLION dollars. I doubt they could hide quite that much away. That's not even counting technical expenses! On the other hand, whatever system you use is going to be a royal pain in the arse to your recipients. Is it REALLY worth it? On balance, I'd say no.
It's Lando Calrissian
You got special offer. Not typical offer like other one.
Now all these lousy parents can see how wonderfully their little darlings behave... I hope they have audio as well...
Please read before modding as troll... I can actually see why Gracenote charges for the service. According to the letter, the charge is $0.06 per user, which I find quite reasonable, considering that they surely use quite a bit of bandwidth, and have quite a few servers to maintain. As for the issue of user submissions, I think the argument can be made that there really is no issue, as A: the users themselves pay nothing, and get quite a useful service. Another important note is that Gracenote gives FREE licenses to non-commercial 'vendors'. This way, those who use the technology in their commerical products pay a small per user fee to maintain the network, pay the editors salarys, etc, and free developers can still use it.
That said, I think the lawsuit is totally ludicrious, unless there WAS a clause in the contract, in which case, Roxio is obviously screwed...
I've never had any problems with the libraries in python. For example, the following will load SlashDot (just the html code, not parse it), and e-mail me that it has done so. import urllib,smtplib slashdot=urllib.urlopen.read() smtplib.connect('mail.local.com') smtplib.sendmail('sender@send.org','tyler@tylereav es.com','Subject: Slashdot\n\nLoaded')
That's funny, I was able to learn a good bit of Python in an afternoon, but it took me nearly a week to learn the basics of Perl.