Re:Karma whores: (Score:-1, Offtopic)
by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 18, @08:48AM (#2719584)
is it me, or have the moderators gone completely bonkers today?
I'm a game developer, and I'm glad these guys are doing their thing, however I wish they would contact game developers as well.
A bit of social engineering could really up the value of the Gameshark and similar. I know I've often put some queer things into my own games and removed them at compile time, or in the last minute rush, left them resident without adding a way to activate them because I never got them past management/legal. If someone had been nagging me just after shipping, while I still had my map file handy, I'd have been more than happy to share the location of one nifty thing or another. I'd wager many other developers are just like me.
Get a hold of the publishers and they may see implementing leakable codes as a way to get a second bump in the sales chart.
Do a little digging and get a hold of the programmers themselves, and they may share things they put in for their own joy and benefit. A little push or some free gear, and they may even put bonus flashy extras in there as a side project.
Michael, please refrain from pushing your political views on others through your position as a slashdot editor.
Editor: One who writes editorials
Editorial: An article in a publication expressing the opinion of its editors or publishers.
Slash is an editorial web log. Repeat this to yourself over and over: "Despite all claims to the contrary, Slash is an editorial web log. Slash is slanted toward what its readers want to see and believe. Slash is not a news site."
You know, three years ago when the U.S. was economically prosperous and business was booming, we could afford to attack our best corporate performers with regulation. But right now, our economy sucks. People are being laid off all over the place.
Now is not the time to stifle the natural monopolies.
He's right. Monopolies help the economy in ways I can't even begin to describe. Just look at Japan, land of big business, for an example of how good monopolies are for a country - I mean - more yens per dollar equals more yens for everyone, right?
You're in the business of making money by selling video games, and yet are offended when people play them when it happens to interfere with your odd working hours.
Need to calm down, dude. I'm bugged by the games slamming on the net bandwidth, not the games themselves or the people playing the games. If networking were implemented properly in these games (or our switches were smart enough not to just broadcast multicast packets, if that's the problem), it wouldn't affect me at all.
Multicasting is bad. A lot of games use it, and that could chew up a LOT of bandwidth, certainly enough to saturate the 10mbit NIC or USB connection used for many broadband setups.
Mental speedbump. I was reacting to broadcast, not multicast, as AC points out.
Multicasting is bad. A lot of games use it, and that could chew up a LOT of bandwidth, certainly enough to saturate the 10mbit NIC or USB connection used for many broadband setups.
Even in our own office, I wish we could kill multicasting. We make games here, and in the evening, a lot of groups of guys are playing games that spew enough multicast packets to bring our 100mbit network to its knees. (Yes, we're using switches, not hubs.) Playstation 2 debugging uses a network connection between the PS2 and PC. Debugging becomes slow as molasses unless you unplug your uplink or put a 2nd NIC in and connect to your PS2 TOOL directly.
I had a fraud case where I managed to track down an individual fraudulently using an account, as well as a tracking number and a date on which they would be receiving a package paid for by same, with signature required.
The police, post office and Visa were extremely interested, and urgent to act. PayPal, on the other hand, couldn't be bothered to involve themselves. And unfortunately, without PayPal's involvement, none of us could do a thing: PayPal was technically the merchant, and wouldn't involve themselves with me, Visa, the police, or the post office despite my trying to get them involved for nearly all of the two days before the package was signed for and the merchandise vanished.
PayPal doesn't seem to want to dirty their hands with anything criminally related. I ended up contesting the PayPal-related charge, which proved to be a three week ordeal, even with Visa, a police record and a trail of calls and emails to PayPal to back up my claim.
PayPal made a huge headache and no win out of what should have been a slam dunk against a credit card fraudster. Unfortunately, PayPal is pretty much the standard for a class of purchases right now. It's tough to do some business without it, so I still have PayPal. However, I refuse to send more than petty amounts through it, or link it to my main banking accounts.
What with all the automobile modifications for running computers, the next logical step is to simply replace the windshield with a monitor.
Cameras mounted on the front of the car would provide the driver with images from the road. The rest of the 'screen' could be divided into whatever the user(s) would like.
That's all very well and good until you swerve to avoid a fucking X10 popup and end up taking out some poor grannie crossing the road.com.
With the closed-source driver, there seems to be no way to put two nvidia cards with DVI-D flat panels in the same system. I don't believe the open driver supports DVI-D at all.
This leaves me running one head when I boot Linux on either of my 3-headed systems. nvidia seems to have approximately zero interest in fixing this problem, as users with multiple geforce cards and multiple digital displays running Linux are a pretty small minority.
Is ATI any nicer about this? Do the ATI drivers support multiple digital heads, or are the relevant bits of the source open?
If you're running NTFS, AND you've been hit, *sigh*..
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Windows allows you to rename an open file. If the worm isn't smart enough to check for this, you should be able to reboot and start cleaning up.
The point of hiring him away from Microsoft was to make the nation's computers more secure as a whole. He'll sit in a small office somewhere and harass interns while Microsoft goes to the junior colleges to find a more capable replacement.
All products made by all companies have a defect rate. 1 in 1000 cars breaks down within a month (or whatever). Software fails for 1 in 1000 of real-life use cases. Same difference. In both cases the vendor should make a reasonable effort to deliver on their commitment if there is a defect, but nobody _guarentees_ anything.
Yes, but what other industry is allowed to include a blanket disclaimer for all effects of using a product? And what other industry can refuse to let you return your product when it doesn't work for you?
I reiterate that the current software warranties and disclaimers should be illegal.
Really, Slash is a funny place to go for this question. You really want to talk to a lawyer.
That said, if memory serves you lose your status as the equivalent of a common carrier and become responsible for the content as soon as you perform subjective modification or exclusion.
Dropping messages which violate an established set of rules is one thing, as was recently upheld in a lawsuit against Yahoo. But if memory serves, subjectively editing and dropping posts is what made a slander lawsuit against Prodigy successful. By having selectively removed posts, Prodigy was, in effect, endorsing the remainder.
Google should be your friend on both cases - the Prodigy case made a fairly big buzz in its time, and I have to think there must have been a dozen more since.
I absolutely adore the idea of TV-to-video overlay over an independent bus, and technically it should be possible, but I doubt it would work out.
...unless the breakout box's bridge chip is super-intelligent and knows to keep traffic off the main bus, which I suppose it could be...
If there's negotiation overhead for the processor to reach the remote bus, it would make sense that this wouldn't be a passive/transparent link. I already know that the bttv chipset supports direct communication with other PCI cards, so I'm actually quite hopeful about this one.
Something like a quarter of the smtp, pop2, pop3 and exec probes against my servers come from these users. Reporting users to the abuse accounts nets no response whatsoever, and many of the same guys keep coming back over and over like clockwork, which tells me that they don't give a damn what their users do.
AT&T is somewhat better, but they're still on the bad end of the scale. Let's hope these users end up with more responsible ISPs.
i mean, an everything box might be cool, but if you're using more than 5 or 6 pci slots, you're probably hitting limitations in the pci bandwidth stream anyway. why not split the functionality out into discrete machines?
I'll preface by saying that there's no good reason to be doing any of this, but it's relatively fun:
I run multiple flat panel displays, each of which gets its own GeForce card (one AGP GF3, several PCI GF2MX). The combination of some of these cards and a low-end chasis should be both cheaper and faster than the 4-head PCI DVI card options. (Why multiple screens? Four $300 1024x768 screens and xinerama gives me a nice all-digital 2048x1536 LCD for $1200 instead of five grand for analog LCD.)
I'd also like to get a few of the $50 gigabit ethernet cards and use crossover cables between my workstations instead of shelling out a grand for a multi-port gigabit switch. That means another two slots gone to reach the two other workstations, with the uplink network card still remaining.
I make games for a living, and I like running the game system dev stations via a TV card instead of keeping a TV around. I also like to run the TV while I work, so I'd like to see if I could get two bttv cards going. If possible, I'd like to use the bttv bus mastering support and have the TV cards directly DMAing to video card overlays on the remote PCI bus, thereby gaining performance from the PCI segmentation.
Google turned up a few reviews of these chassis. They show a slight reduction in the performance of an Adaptec SCSI controller when used in the external chassis.
Is there some sort of extra protocol overhead involved in accessing a remote PCI bus, or does it take an extra cycle to respond or...?
Would have been nice to give the maintainers on a few other distro's time to close the hole before broadcasting this to the script kiddies
Until 5 mins ago I was a beleiver in complete disclosure,
But with 6 wu-ftpd boxes to admin I'm not so sure any more.
Hope I see a fix today.
Your comment didn't make any sense until I saw that last line. You're sitting and waiting for a fix to come to you!? If you worked for me, you'd be fired already! If you were a friend, I'd kick ya and take yer DSL away!
Your first action on learning about a security problem is to disable the daemon and look for a fix or a replacement ASAP. With something like an ftp server, there are literally dozens of other options available to you.
Your first line of action on learning that a security hole has existed on your machine for a lengthy time, as is what happens with delayed disclosure, is to forcibly pull every last network cable and power plug, mount the drive's filesystem on another machine and tear the system apart piece by piece, auditing everything.
Passively sitting and hoping for fixes "some time soon, if you please" is not a viable approach network security, and it frustrates me just to read that!
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It would be killer to use something like this as a drive on a fanless PC with a tiny Linux install.
No - I think they got that one about right. :)
A bit of social engineering could really up the value of the Gameshark and similar. I know I've often put some queer things into my own games and removed them at compile time, or in the last minute rush, left them resident without adding a way to activate them because I never got them past management/legal. If someone had been nagging me just after shipping, while I still had my map file handy, I'd have been more than happy to share the location of one nifty thing or another. I'd wager many other developers are just like me.
Get a hold of the publishers and they may see implementing leakable codes as a way to get a second bump in the sales chart.
Do a little digging and get a hold of the programmers themselves, and they may share things they put in for their own joy and benefit. A little push or some free gear, and they may even put bonus flashy extras in there as a side project.
Editorial: An article in a publication expressing the opinion of its editors or publishers.
Slash is an editorial web log. Repeat this to yourself over and over: "Despite all claims to the contrary, Slash is an editorial web log. Slash is slanted toward what its readers want to see and believe. Slash is not a news site."
Need to calm down, dude. I'm bugged by the games slamming on the net bandwidth, not the games themselves or the people playing the games. If networking were implemented properly in these games (or our switches were smart enough not to just broadcast multicast packets, if that's the problem), it wouldn't affect me at all.
Mental speedbump. I was reacting to broadcast, not multicast, as AC points out.
Even in our own office, I wish we could kill multicasting. We make games here, and in the evening, a lot of groups of guys are playing games that spew enough multicast packets to bring our 100mbit network to its knees. (Yes, we're using switches, not hubs.) Playstation 2 debugging uses a network connection between the PS2 and PC. Debugging becomes slow as molasses unless you unplug your uplink or put a 2nd NIC in and connect to your PS2 TOOL directly.
The police, post office and Visa were extremely interested, and urgent to act. PayPal, on the other hand, couldn't be bothered to involve themselves. And unfortunately, without PayPal's involvement, none of us could do a thing: PayPal was technically the merchant, and wouldn't involve themselves with me, Visa, the police, or the post office despite my trying to get them involved for nearly all of the two days before the package was signed for and the merchandise vanished.
PayPal doesn't seem to want to dirty their hands with anything criminally related. I ended up contesting the PayPal-related charge, which proved to be a three week ordeal, even with Visa, a police record and a trail of calls and emails to PayPal to back up my claim.
PayPal made a huge headache and no win out of what should have been a slam dunk against a credit card fraudster. Unfortunately, PayPal is pretty much the standard for a class of purchases right now. It's tough to do some business without it, so I still have PayPal. However, I refuse to send more than petty amounts through it, or link it to my main banking accounts.
Codewarrior benefits from SMP, as do typical "make -j " project builds under unices.
That's all very well and good until you swerve to avoid a fucking X10 popup and end up taking out some poor grannie crossing the road.com.
This leaves me running one head when I boot Linux on either of my 3-headed systems. nvidia seems to have approximately zero interest in fixing this problem, as users with multiple geforce cards and multiple digital displays running Linux are a pretty small minority.
Is ATI any nicer about this? Do the ATI drivers support multiple digital heads, or are the relevant bits of the source open?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Windows allows you to rename an open file. If the worm isn't smart enough to check for this, you should be able to reboot and start cleaning up.
The point of hiring him away from Microsoft was to make the nation's computers more secure as a whole. He'll sit in a small office somewhere and harass interns while Microsoft goes to the junior colleges to find a more capable replacement.
Yes, but what other industry is allowed to include a blanket disclaimer for all effects of using a product? And what other industry can refuse to let you return your product when it doesn't work for you?
I reiterate that the current software warranties and disclaimers should be illegal.
That said, if memory serves you lose your status as the equivalent of a common carrier and become responsible for the content as soon as you perform subjective modification or exclusion.
Dropping messages which violate an established set of rules is one thing, as was recently upheld in a lawsuit against Yahoo. But if memory serves, subjectively editing and dropping posts is what made a slander lawsuit against Prodigy successful. By having selectively removed posts, Prodigy was, in effect, endorsing the remainder.
Google should be your friend on both cases - the Prodigy case made a fairly big buzz in its time, and I have to think there must have been a dozen more since.
If they blocked smtp outgoing, then someone's figured out how to get around it, because I've still got logs full of attempts.
45% of cablemodem users != 45% of users
If there's negotiation overhead for the processor to reach the remote bus, it would make sense that this wouldn't be a passive/transparent link. I already know that the bttv chipset supports direct communication with other PCI cards, so I'm actually quite hopeful about this one.
AT&T is somewhat better, but they're still on the bad end of the scale. Let's hope these users end up with more responsible ISPs.
I'll preface by saying that there's no good reason to be doing any of this, but it's relatively fun:
I run multiple flat panel displays, each of which gets its own GeForce card (one AGP GF3, several PCI GF2MX). The combination of some of these cards and a low-end chasis should be both cheaper and faster than the 4-head PCI DVI card options. (Why multiple screens? Four $300 1024x768 screens and xinerama gives me a nice all-digital 2048x1536 LCD for $1200 instead of five grand for analog LCD.)
I'd also like to get a few of the $50 gigabit ethernet cards and use crossover cables between my workstations instead of shelling out a grand for a multi-port gigabit switch. That means another two slots gone to reach the two other workstations, with the uplink network card still remaining.
I make games for a living, and I like running the game system dev stations via a TV card instead of keeping a TV around. I also like to run the TV while I work, so I'd like to see if I could get two bttv cards going. If possible, I'd like to use the bttv bus mastering support and have the TV cards directly DMAing to video card overlays on the remote PCI bus, thereby gaining performance from the PCI segmentation.
Google turned up a few reviews of these chassis. They show a slight reduction in the performance of an Adaptec SCSI controller when used in the external chassis.
Is there some sort of extra protocol overhead involved in accessing a remote PCI bus, or does it take an extra cycle to respond or ...?
Your first action on learning about a security problem is to disable the daemon and look for a fix or a replacement ASAP. With something like an ftp server, there are literally dozens of other options available to you.
Your first line of action on learning that a security hole has existed on your machine for a lengthy time, as is what happens with delayed disclosure, is to forcibly pull every last network cable and power plug, mount the drive's filesystem on another machine and tear the system apart piece by piece, auditing everything.
Passively sitting and hoping for fixes "some time soon, if you please" is not a viable approach network security, and it frustrates me just to read that!
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