I've downloaded a few keyboards myself and gave up on them all. How many of those other tens of of thousand did the same?
You are right, I am lazy, but so is everyone else, so you have to take that into account when judging your target market. I'm assuming more people are lazy like me than like your average adventurous Dvorak user.
Keyboards are becoming obsolete. You can text without one on a smartphone. About the only people who will use them in 20 years will be coders, because of the different conventions for #defines, variables, etc.
I assume you've never had an office job anywhere ever? In case you're new to this, those big buildings in the big smoke are filled with people at desks on computers. Those computers are all controlled via keyboard. Unless you're planning on designing a bespoke user interface for every single operation done on every computer everywhere, then I can't see the qwerty keyboard going anywhere soon.
You mean teenagers who grew up with qwerty keyboards since primary school? and on their parents PCs? And in their future place of work?
The same teenagers whose care factor for keyboard layout s is precisely zero? Your argument might make sense if you were talking about jeans or haircuts, but keyboard layouts, not so much.
The big issue here is the incumbency inertia, which is as close to an immovable object as you can get.
there are plenty of people who took the time to learn/use the Dvorak keyboard.
Who? I never met one? I'm sure they exist, but the problem with trying to improve language based things is that we already speak this one. Even if the incumbent sucks, the cost to change is far too great. It's like all those bitches that constantly moan about Windows. Too bad, MS got in first, so their way is the de facto standard in PC land.
If you're interested in challenges, I'd like to see a paper on the best method for replacing a large incumbent cultural norm. eg If you had to get everyone to stop speaking English,and use another language how could you do it? Unlock that secret and the world is yours.
Basically you're making shit up to suit you argument.
There are very real examples of people flying in planes in the sky, doesn't mean everyone will own one and drive it to work
Your definition of "proof" is a long way from mine
Why do you think that I prefer to be driven than to drive myself? It's an awfully big assumption don't you think?
In the city and on commercial transport corridors there is some scope for this, but a lot of other use cases, people actually enjoy the process of operating a machine. How does your robot car solve that problem?
This article seems to have missed the point altogether. If we're talking about automation then it's less about cars or how they are controlled and more about the most effective and efficient forms of transportation. I don't care if it a car, bike, walking, horse or UFO, if it gets me where I want to go quickly safely and cheaply I'm there.
We are getting more urbanised as a race, and cities are becoming larger so scale, efficiency, and design become key. I travel a fair bit and the only model of transportation I've ever seen work in a large city is the combination of mass transit and foot power.
Let's take the emotion out of it, a properly design city with rail (eg Hong Kong) can move 80,000 people per hour per line. No road or car whether human driven or robot could ever hope to achieve that scale. It is at least an order of magnitude higher (probably two) than any road I've ever come across
The whole idea that cars will be mainstream in a large modern city is outdated.
I disagree. We pollute a lot less than the industrial age, and there are known cases of some societies wiping themselves out due to lack of environment control (eg Easter Island), however I still think we are smarter than that. Things might get worse, but sometimes they have to get worse before they get better. And even if it takes people to die, I still think we'll turn this ship around eventually.
Prophets of doom have been around as long as humans. But there is a long, long way between catastrophe and extinction. The US might not survive intact but plenty of other more dynamic cultures will. It's evolution baby!
(It actually makes wonder when this stops being a NASA/Climate/Environment issue, and more of a Defence issue, since this is a bigger risk to National Security than anything else right now)
How did the videos get deleted? Seems odd that any one with half an ounce of skill in IT couldn't recover a "deleted" file (since we all know delete really means remove the index, not the actual data.)
I did a security course once led by a ex cop (not USA). I remember he asked the class when was it appropriate to draw your gun? After all sorts of whacky answers he stated, only when you intend to use it. A gun is not a device to threaten compliance, it is a tool to kill. This was followed up by instructions on once your gun is drawn, where to aim it. Always the heart, every single time. A gun is not used to disable or injure, it is only there to kill people, and should only be used as such.
From this, a gun should only ever be drawn when someone's life is at risk and the only way to stop it is to the kill the person making the threat. Unlike all those cops shows where cops use their guns as a do what I say stick.
Part of the problem is cops are so fat and out of shape these days. You watch those cop shows, across the board they're all fat. Why are they so fat? If they want to play army then they should have the same fitness requirements. A fit person will look for reason to demonstrate their fitness, I used to play rugby and enjoy a good chase and tackle. A fat guy won;t run, they'll just push whatever buttons necessary to recover perceived loss of control, even if it is a gun pointed at an unarmed human being. There is a real mental state associated with being fat and our of control of your own body that contributes to this abusive power cops have.
Force fitness and BMI standards on these clowns and see how it affects their mentality.
Completely unfair. A loss of an employee has (in most cases) less than 1% impact on a business. A loss of a job has 100% impact on your ability to pay your rent and eat. I am thankful I live in a "socialist" country where laws are designed to protect people's rights.
That works for European employers, it's much harder to fire someone in general than it is in the USA.
I get the impression from reading this site that the US is a pretty shit place to live.
Here in Australia, outside of the elite high performance places that attract fuckwits (banks, lawyers etc), most jobs are just jobs. You come in, do your shit, have some laughs and leave. When you've had enough you find another job and this is accepted as a normal part of life, you have a party and you move on.
I've been working 20 years and had more than 20 jobs, the longest just over 2 years. Most people here will openly say they've had their fill and ready to move on, and everyone will support them in their personal journey.
I have had one experience when it wasn't like that, Ironically working for an American immigrant boss. His style sounds like what you describe, treat his staff like shit, burn them out until they leave then shit on the next guy. Unfortunately for him we don't work like that here and his boss figured out what was going and he got the axe. Treating people like humans goes a long way to a productive workplace.
One question I've always had and never seen answered ( I'm sure it has been, just not anywhere I've seen) is, What sort of time-frames we're involved in these great extinctions? ie when the dinosaurs died out 64 million years ago, did it happen in a day, a month, a year or a million years? If the latter, which is what I get the impression it is, why the fuck do we care? I care about my family and my kids, and will care about my grand-kids if I have any and possibly their kids if I'm still around. But after that, fuck them, let them sort that out. Our ancestors didn't care about us, nor should they and we worked it out. Why won't our descendents do the same?
And what are those concerns exactly? Seriously, because I've followed this Anti-nuke campaign for a while and am still looking for something that is worse than the coal situation we have now.
Especially considering most "shark attacks", on humans, are them just being curious as to what we are.
How do you know what a shark is thinking?
I would've thought it'd more to do with confusion than curiosity. Having dived with sharks that bigger than me, when there's good visibility, and they aren't hungry there are generally no issues.
this quote from Jack Tramiel (of Commodore)
But that's why we need more Commodores.
Sorry but what are you talking about? The only context I know of "Commodore" is a band with Lionel Ritchie, a big cheese in a navy, or a shit car made in Australia. But none of these work here?
What you've just described is a police state using tactics of fear and intimidation to subjugate the public. That's what you're defending here!
No it isn't. There's no police state, and no subjugation, there is a repeat offender with a history who can continue down their course of behaviour, or can be "scared straight" with a little applied pressure. It's a common tactic that has been used for centuries. I've been on that road myself so know first hand of it's effectiveness.
I'm not sure the school over-reacted. They are not computer experts, how do they know if there isn't something more serious going on? What if the kid changed school reports, and then changed the wall paper? That would be a felony, and therefore only course of action the school has is to report it to ensure their liability is covered. Now whether the police proceed with charges is another matter, but I can't see how the school has much choice (unless the dept has it's own computer security team on-call for internal investigations - which I highly doubt)
Slashdot Mirror
I've downloaded a few keyboards myself and gave up on them all. How many of those other tens of of thousand did the same?
You are right, I am lazy, but so is everyone else, so you have to take that into account when judging your target market. I'm assuming more people are lazy like me than like your average adventurous Dvorak user.
Keyboards are becoming obsolete. You can text without one on a smartphone. About the only people who will use them in 20 years will be coders, because of the different conventions for #defines, variables, etc.
I assume you've never had an office job anywhere ever? In case you're new to this, those big buildings in the big smoke are filled with people at desks on computers. Those computers are all controlled via keyboard. Unless you're planning on designing a bespoke user interface for every single operation done on every computer everywhere, then I can't see the qwerty keyboard going anywhere soon.
You mean teenagers who grew up with qwerty keyboards since primary school? and on their parents PCs? And in their future place of work?
The same teenagers whose care factor for keyboard layout s is precisely zero? Your argument might make sense if you were talking about jeans or haircuts, but keyboard layouts, not so much.
The big issue here is the incumbency inertia, which is as close to an immovable object as you can get.
there are plenty of people who took the time to learn/use the Dvorak keyboard.
Who? I never met one? I'm sure they exist, but the problem with trying to improve language based things is that we already speak this one. Even if the incumbent sucks, the cost to change is far too great. It's like all those bitches that constantly moan about Windows. Too bad, MS got in first, so their way is the de facto standard in PC land.
If you're interested in challenges, I'd like to see a paper on the best method for replacing a large incumbent cultural norm. eg If you had to get everyone to stop speaking English,and use another language how could you do it? Unlock that secret and the world is yours.
Basically you're making shit up to suit you argument.
There are very real examples of people flying in planes in the sky, doesn't mean everyone will own one and drive it to work
Your definition of "proof" is a long way from mine
Why do you think that I prefer to be driven than to drive myself? It's an awfully big assumption don't you think?
In the city and on commercial transport corridors there is some scope for this, but a lot of other use cases, people actually enjoy the process of operating a machine. How does your robot car solve that problem?
This article seems to have missed the point altogether. If we're talking about automation then it's less about cars or how they are controlled and more about the most effective and efficient forms of transportation. I don't care if it a car, bike, walking, horse or UFO, if it gets me where I want to go quickly safely and cheaply I'm there.
We are getting more urbanised as a race, and cities are becoming larger so scale, efficiency, and design become key. I travel a fair bit and the only model of transportation I've ever seen work in a large city is the combination of mass transit and foot power.
Let's take the emotion out of it, a properly design city with rail (eg Hong Kong) can move 80,000 people per hour per line. No road or car whether human driven or robot could ever hope to achieve that scale. It is at least an order of magnitude higher (probably two) than any road I've ever come across
The whole idea that cars will be mainstream in a large modern city is outdated.
I disagree. We pollute a lot less than the industrial age, and there are known cases of some societies wiping themselves out due to lack of environment control (eg Easter Island), however I still think we are smarter than that. Things might get worse, but sometimes they have to get worse before they get better. And even if it takes people to die, I still think we'll turn this ship around eventually.
Prophets of doom have been around as long as humans. But there is a long, long way between catastrophe and extinction. The US might not survive intact but plenty of other more dynamic cultures will. It's evolution baby!
(It actually makes wonder when this stops being a NASA/Climate/Environment issue, and more of a Defence issue, since this is a bigger risk to National Security than anything else right now)
Ok got it now. Brain engaged, hamsters are slowly turning the wheels...
How did the videos get deleted? Seems odd that any one with half an ounce of skill in IT couldn't recover a "deleted" file (since we all know delete really means remove the index, not the actual data.)
I did a security course once led by a ex cop (not USA). I remember he asked the class when was it appropriate to draw your gun? After all sorts of whacky answers he stated, only when you intend to use it. A gun is not a device to threaten compliance, it is a tool to kill. This was followed up by instructions on once your gun is drawn, where to aim it. Always the heart, every single time. A gun is not used to disable or injure, it is only there to kill people, and should only be used as such.
From this, a gun should only ever be drawn when someone's life is at risk and the only way to stop it is to the kill the person making the threat. Unlike all those cops shows where cops use their guns as a do what I say stick.
One thing we can agree on is that cops are too fat. Fucking fat cops, lose some weight you fat fuckers...
Part of the problem is cops are so fat and out of shape these days. You watch those cop shows, across the board they're all fat. Why are they so fat? If they want to play army then they should have the same fitness requirements. A fit person will look for reason to demonstrate their fitness, I used to play rugby and enjoy a good chase and tackle. A fat guy won;t run, they'll just push whatever buttons necessary to recover perceived loss of control, even if it is a gun pointed at an unarmed human being. There is a real mental state associated with being fat and our of control of your own body that contributes to this abusive power cops have.
Force fitness and BMI standards on these clowns and see how it affects their mentality.
Oh that Commodore! When you said we need more Commodores I assumed it was some group of people. How would more computers help?
Completely unfair. A loss of an employee has (in most cases) less than 1% impact on a business. A loss of a job has 100% impact on your ability to pay your rent and eat. I am thankful I live in a "socialist" country where laws are designed to protect people's rights.
That works for European employers, it's much harder to fire someone in general than it is in the USA.
I get the impression from reading this site that the US is a pretty shit place to live.
Here in Australia, outside of the elite high performance places that attract fuckwits (banks, lawyers etc), most jobs are just jobs. You come in, do your shit, have some laughs and leave. When you've had enough you find another job and this is accepted as a normal part of life, you have a party and you move on.
I've been working 20 years and had more than 20 jobs, the longest just over 2 years. Most people here will openly say they've had their fill and ready to move on, and everyone will support them in their personal journey.
I have had one experience when it wasn't like that, Ironically working for an American immigrant boss. His style sounds like what you describe, treat his staff like shit, burn them out until they leave then shit on the next guy. Unfortunately for him we don't work like that here and his boss figured out what was going and he got the axe. Treating people like humans goes a long way to a productive workplace.
One question I've always had and never seen answered ( I'm sure it has been, just not anywhere I've seen) is, What sort of time-frames we're involved in these great extinctions? ie when the dinosaurs died out 64 million years ago, did it happen in a day, a month, a year or a million years? If the latter, which is what I get the impression it is, why the fuck do we care? I care about my family and my kids, and will care about my grand-kids if I have any and possibly their kids if I'm still around. But after that, fuck them, let them sort that out. Our ancestors didn't care about us, nor should they and we worked it out. Why won't our descendents do the same?
And what are those concerns exactly? Seriously, because I've followed this Anti-nuke campaign for a while and am still looking for something that is worse than the coal situation we have now.
Crap. #000001 is whiter than #000000 despite still being black. And ph8.0 is more acidic than 8.1.
Dickhead.
build a giant monument on the Moon (where it won't be eroded by the weather)
How do you stop it from being smashed to bits by asteroids? Much easier to just not pollute so much don't you think?
Especially considering most "shark attacks", on humans, are them just being curious as to what we are.
How do you know what a shark is thinking? I would've thought it'd more to do with confusion than curiosity. Having dived with sharks that bigger than me, when there's good visibility, and they aren't hungry there are generally no issues.
Actually, followup studies suggest that the scared straight approach leads to more offenses in the future.
Well it must be true then. Because you said right here, without the need for a citation or anything...
this quote from Jack Tramiel (of Commodore)
But that's why we need more Commodores.
Sorry but what are you talking about? The only context I know of "Commodore" is a band with Lionel Ritchie, a big cheese in a navy, or a shit car made in Australia. But none of these work here?
What you've just described is a police state using tactics of fear and intimidation to subjugate the public. That's what you're defending here!
No it isn't. There's no police state, and no subjugation, there is a repeat offender with a history who can continue down their course of behaviour, or can be "scared straight" with a little applied pressure. It's a common tactic that has been used for centuries. I've been on that road myself so know first hand of it's effectiveness.
I'm not sure the school over-reacted. They are not computer experts, how do they know if there isn't something more serious going on? What if the kid changed school reports, and then changed the wall paper? That would be a felony, and therefore only course of action the school has is to report it to ensure their liability is covered. Now whether the police proceed with charges is another matter, but I can't see how the school has much choice (unless the dept has it's own computer security team on-call for internal investigations - which I highly doubt)