Ok, I clicked here and was greeted with a huge picture of don knotts.... is this some sort of secret NSA OS project? KnottOs or something?:) Scary. Don't do that without warning us ok?
dual pIIIs? 650 mb ram? Not many people have this sort of hardware around do they? I know this is a server test, but one of the things about linux is that it works great on lesser hardware. I have a webserver running multiple domains, mail and web for all and it all runs quite happily on a p-262 with 128mb ram.
Yes, you will need a heavy duty system to act as a fileserver for a huge company, but I'd like to try a "real world" system using the sort of hardware that people actually do have hanging around. Ie: the p120 that provides net/ipmasq for a 100 person office, or the p200 that provides mail services to the big office.
I've seen copies of WP for Linux sitting on the shelves of computer stores looking like they belong there (this is not a bad thing of course!). WP seems to be getting into some places where they don't even have RH yet.
So my question is what is Corel doing to push their linux software out into the market place? Are you sending free copies to stores? waiting for them to request it?
I've just ordered (praying to the credit card gods that my mc goes through and that I'm near enough to the top of the list so that I get the shirt sometime before the next century) and encourge others to do so. Sure, supporting a) copyleft and b) the EFF is cool and all, but I think the coolness factor of the shirt with dvd decrypt codes on it is good enough on it's own!
(assuming you're talking about the windows kernel of course)
Erhmm... where would people who aren't ms-sequestered core-code-os division secret building b-1a94c employees see the source anyway?
:)
/me shivers at the thought of bill in the linux kernel... $DEITY knows if he's actually done any real code since the basic intepreter back in the Old Days(tm)
So they are going to sue for hosting a theme? nah, why not sue the creator who copied the theme. Stealing copywrite stuff, how dare they! What, you say it's some 12 year old in Albainia? Hmm... how they going to sue them. Nah, best to sue sites that host it. Or have links to it.
Wasn't there something about links being illegal here a few days ago?
I can understand in a way that Apple doesn't want every computer in the world looking like a system that isn't actually out yet (hell, if they are selling the new macos based purely on it's l&f then a couple of talented theme developers could destroy apple in a few days). But if it's cool enough (and personally (aqua jokes aside) I don't like it all that much) people *will* copy it. As we've seen.
I'm sorry to see them whining about it though... I thought imitation was the sincerest form of flattery or something like that?
I have always advocated one of the great things about the net being it's ability for anominity and how people are judged on merit, not looks, sex, age, or education.
I try to judge people by what they say and do, ie: what I can see of their work on the net. How can you do otherwise? If you thought someone had a great web page and said 'man, this person is a great designer' but then found they were ugly, old, young, gay, lesbian, or without a formal design education, would you recant?
I agree that the net's interactions with people (employment wise) are not necissarily "real life", however, I do use my 10+ years on the net and interactions with people on the net to help me in "real life". If someone is a great coder I don't give a flying fuck if they turn out to be a 12 year old colored quadrapledgic (who can't spell) or a 90 year old lesbian great grandmother. Their works are their portfolio.
I think we should all learn to deal with people in this way (or like this).
Hehehe, "Everything I learned about dealing with people I learned from Internet Chat rooms":)
Example (probably offtopic, but....): A while back I heard of a game company looking for a modeller. They said basically, send us some work, if we like it and it rocks you're hired.
No resumes, no interviews, nothing. They could end up hiring a 10 year old who has been playing with a pirated copy of 3ds. So what./This/ is the kind of thing I like to see.
Example 2: I was hired 2 years ago by my current employer as a perl programmer. I had a degree but they didn't care about that, I had some OK C/C++ knowledge, but my perl experience was about good enough to do a hello world but thats it. But they didn't look at education or what I could do, they wanted me for what I had the potential for doing.
/. *did* used to be a good place to have discussions. Before the "reply" function, before threaded messages....
Question for Rob and Jeff: Slashdot has changed a huge amount since the early days (yes, I remember chips and dips and (gasp) before even that), what regrets do you have (if any) about the way that/. has come. Would you do anything different if you could go back?
Something for Rob: Dude, I'm still sorry about the ketchup in the box thing, I swear it wasn't my idea!
As for a question, I'm wondering what you guys see as the next BIG things to watch for as far as software, technologies, and people. Anything that you guys (who see most of this stuff come in) feel will hit it big in the next bit?
Nah, there was an easter egg in excel that was an actual doom clone game. Not the screensaver, but an actual game IIRC. I have never seen it myself (linux user) but there are instructions on how to get to it on the net somewhere.
Don't forget about Coupland...
on
Snow Crash
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· Score: 1
I haven't seen anyone mention Douglas Coupland's books. Microserfs first and formost, but the other ones of his I've read, Girlfriend in a Coma and shampoo planet are both excellent. Life without God was differnt, and not my cup of tea. DC's books are great. Microserfs was incrediably well written and it was quite a shock to me that it was not a true story. The detail and attitude of the coders who are the main characters was just perfect. The other 2 mentioned both follow along the same lines a bit, and are basically about people who are searching for a way to improve themselves, or to (to steal a phrase) become version 1.0. Girlfriend in a coma is humourous and dark, all about well... stuff, I won't spoil it for you. Shampoo planet is and more funny look at the world that society has become today, or could be, given a little stretch. Like the review said, go read 'em:)
I actually use google for everything but the searches that can't be put into "foo&&bar!baz" type searches... for those I use www.electricmonk.com, where I can just say "where is there info about the history of the word foo" or something like that.
I think it's similar to 'askjeeves.com', but I've never been there.
Not only registry curruption but rebooting, crashes, curruption, etc. When netscape barfs in linux I right click, choose "kill", and double click the netscape icon again. In windows as we all know this might work, or you might end up BSODing and having to reboot.
The point about waiting on hold is soooo true.
Enter story mode. I bought (when I was using windows) mcvc++ 4. I had some strange problem that wasn't explained in the docs, and I couldn't find info on the website. So I broke down and called the tech support number. After going through the maze of menu options I sat on hold for about 20 minutes (this is long distance remember). When I got to someone I gave them my name, address, phone number, serial number, etc, and asked my question. They weren't the people to talk to so they passed me on to some other department... same deal, go through name, address, serial number, etc.
When I got to asking my question this time though I was asked, "I'm just looking at your serial number.... are you in canada?". I replied the polite equivelant of "duh, you have my address in front of you you stupid dolt, what do you think?". And was then told I had to call some other long distance number in ontario or something.
Yea, how dare people like RedHat and Caldara *give* away an OS and then try to make money from it, why not sell an over expensive OS, and then make gobs more money from support.
Oh yea, wasn't MS the one who charged the same price for win98se as win98, the "se" part being the inclusion of ie5 and a hoard of bug fixes?
As for the Security rating, yes, this is what I heard to. And wasn't the C2 rating removed from NT4? And have they rated win2k? I think not.
It *would* be interesting however to see how linux did in similar ratings tests... anyone know of any sources about this?
More importantly, the kde/gnome BS has created some great apps for linux. Which is better or has a better license or whatever is not the point (here), the point is that the competition is creating some really wack ass apps out there.
In a way it's like linux vs ms... the mindcraft benchmark fiasco basically made linux say 'oh, gotta get better' and we did, and everyone benifits right?
I think what was more important that the actors, stupid jar jar, bad lines, or plot holes was what it set up and what it explained for episode II and III. When I got out of the movie the first time (12:15am show on opening night thank-you-very-much) I spent about an hour with a friend of mine discussing what had to happen in II and III based on what we had just seen and what we know will happen in IV. Basically the set up for the Empire, how Anikin came to be under Obi-wan's teaching, how Obi-wan wasn't ready etc were all things that greatly affected how the "Star Wars Universe" was. TPM in a way just added depth to the characters that we saw in IV-VI.
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Ok, I clicked here and was greeted with a huge picture of don knotts.... is this some sort of secret NSA OS project? KnottOs or something? :) Scary. Don't do that without warning us ok?
dual pIIIs? 650 mb ram? Not many people have this sort of hardware around do they? I know this is a server test, but one of the things about linux is that it works great on lesser hardware. I have a webserver running multiple domains, mail and web for all and it all runs quite happily on a p-262 with 128mb ram.
Yes, you will need a heavy duty system to act as a fileserver for a huge company, but I'd like to try a "real world" system using the sort of hardware that people actually do have hanging around. Ie: the p120 that provides net/ipmasq for a 100 person office, or the p200 that provides mail services to the big office.
Ya know what I mean?
No kidding it's first, it's on /. and it'll be first no matter what!
(yea yea, mark me down to redundant why don't you!)
I donno, maybe Hemos's butt pimples *should* go under the science category...
:)
Personally I'd like to see a tag attached to all "first post" and -1 or 0 rated /. posts :)
I've seen copies of WP for Linux sitting on the shelves of computer stores looking like they belong there (this is not a bad thing of course!). WP seems to be getting into some places where they don't even have RH yet.
So my question is what is Corel doing to push their linux software out into the market place? Are you sending free copies to stores? waiting for them to request it?
Whatever it is, good job!
I've just ordered (praying to the credit card gods that my mc goes through and that I'm near enough to the top of the list so that I get the shirt sometime before the next century) and encourge others to do so. Sure, supporting a) copyleft and b) the EFF is cool and all, but I think the coolness factor of the shirt with dvd decrypt codes on it is good enough on it's own!
alan, soon to be garbed in decrypt code....
I hope they don't.... but if they do, I hope they ship my t-shirt before!
:)
Awwwhh... come on, moderate that one up, it was funny!
Even with all the migetsex sites out there?
(assuming you're talking about the windows kernel of course)
Erhmm... where would people who aren't ms-sequestered core-code-os division secret building b-1a94c employees see the source anyway?
:)
/me shivers at the thought of bill in the linux kernel... $DEITY knows if he's actually done any real code since the basic intepreter back in the Old Days(tm)
"miniBallmer! Stop rewriting the Inter-net"
:)
So they are going to sue for hosting a theme? nah, why not sue the creator who copied the theme. Stealing copywrite stuff, how dare they! What, you say it's some 12 year old in Albainia? Hmm... how they going to sue them. Nah, best to sue sites that host it. Or have links to it.
Wasn't there something about links being illegal here a few days ago?
I can understand in a way that Apple doesn't want every computer in the world looking like a system that isn't actually out yet (hell, if they are selling the new macos based purely on it's l&f then a couple of talented theme developers could destroy apple in a few days). But if it's cool enough (and personally (aqua jokes aside) I don't like it all that much) people *will* copy it. As we've seen.
I'm sorry to see them whining about it though... I thought imitation was the sincerest form of flattery or something like that?
> Depends on the human
What about lawyers or MS programmers, they're not really human...
Hell, I want to help TEST that! :)
I have always advocated one of the great things about the net being it's ability for anominity and how people are judged on merit, not looks, sex, age, or education.
:)
/This/ is the kind of thing I like to see.
:)
I try to judge people by what they say and do, ie: what I can see of their work on the net. How can you do otherwise? If you thought someone had a great web page and said 'man, this person is a great designer' but then found they were ugly, old, young, gay, lesbian, or without a formal design education, would you recant?
I agree that the net's interactions with people (employment wise) are not necissarily "real life", however, I do use my 10+ years on the net and interactions with people on the net to help me in "real life". If someone is a great coder I don't give a flying fuck if they turn out to be a 12 year old colored quadrapledgic (who can't spell) or a 90 year old lesbian great grandmother. Their works are their portfolio.
I think we should all learn to deal with people in this way (or like this).
Hehehe, "Everything I learned about dealing with people I learned from Internet Chat rooms"
Example (probably offtopic, but....):
A while back I heard of a game company looking for a modeller. They said basically, send us some work, if we like it and it rocks you're hired.
No resumes, no interviews, nothing. They could end up hiring a 10 year old who has been playing with a pirated copy of 3ds. So what.
Example 2: I was hired 2 years ago by my current employer as a perl programmer. I had a degree but they didn't care about that, I had some OK C/C++ knowledge, but my perl experience was about good enough to do a hello world but thats it. But they didn't look at education or what I could do, they wanted me for what I had the potential for doing.
This is what I like to see
/. *did* used to be a good place to have discussions. Before the "reply" function, before threaded messages....
/. has come. Would you do anything different if you could go back?
Question for Rob and Jeff:
Slashdot has changed a huge amount since the early days (yes, I remember chips and dips and (gasp) before even that), what regrets do you have (if any) about the way that
This I like! :)
(alan == user id 347)
Something for Rob:
Dude, I'm still sorry about the ketchup in the box thing, I swear it wasn't my idea!
As for a question, I'm wondering what you guys see as the next BIG things to watch for as far as software, technologies, and people. Anything that you guys (who see most of this stuff come in) feel will hit it big in the next bit?
Nah, there was an easter egg in excel that was an actual doom clone game. Not the screensaver, but an actual game IIRC. I have never seen it myself (linux user) but there are instructions on how to get to it on the net somewhere.
I haven't seen anyone mention Douglas Coupland's books. Microserfs first and formost, but the other ones :)
of his I've read, Girlfriend in a Coma and shampoo
planet are both excellent. Life without God was differnt, and not my cup of tea.
DC's books are great. Microserfs was incrediably well written and it was quite a shock to me that it was not
a true story. The detail and attitude of the coders who are the main characters was just perfect. The
other 2 mentioned both follow along the same lines a bit, and are basically about people who are searching
for a way to improve themselves, or to (to steal a
phrase) become version 1.0.
Girlfriend in a coma is humourous and dark, all about well... stuff, I won't spoil it for you. Shampoo
planet is and more funny look at the world that society has become today, or could be, given a
little stretch.
Like the review said, go read 'em
I actually use google for everything but the searches that can't be put into "foo&&bar!baz" type searches... for those I use www.electricmonk.com, where I can just say "where is there info about the history of the word foo" or something like that.
I think it's similar to 'askjeeves.com', but I've never been there.
Not only registry curruption but rebooting, crashes, curruption, etc. When netscape barfs in linux I right click, choose "kill", and double click the netscape icon again. In windows as we all know this might work, or you might end up BSODing and having to reboot.
The point about waiting on hold is soooo true.
Enter story mode.
I bought (when I was using windows) mcvc++ 4. I had some strange problem that wasn't explained in the docs, and I couldn't find info on the website. So I broke down and called the tech support number. After going through the maze of menu options I sat on hold for about 20 minutes (this is long distance remember). When I got to someone I gave them my name, address, phone number, serial number, etc, and asked my question. They weren't the people to talk to so they passed me on to some other department... same deal, go through name, address, serial number, etc.
When I got to asking my question this time though I was asked, "I'm just looking at your serial number.... are you in canada?". I replied the polite equivelant of "duh, you have my address in front of you you stupid dolt, what do you think?". And was then told I had to call some other long distance number in ontario or something.
That is what I think of MS tech support.
End story
Drat! I was going to say that!
Yea, how dare people like RedHat and Caldara *give* away an OS and then try to make money from it, why not sell an over expensive OS, and then make gobs more money from support.
Oh yea, wasn't MS the one who charged the same price for win98se as win98, the "se" part being the inclusion of ie5 and a hoard of bug fixes?
As for the Security rating, yes, this is what I heard to. And wasn't the C2 rating removed from NT4? And have they rated win2k? I think not.
It *would* be interesting however to see how linux did in similar ratings tests... anyone know of any sources about this?
More importantly, the kde/gnome BS has created some great apps for linux. Which is better or has a better license or whatever is not the point (here), the point is that the competition is creating some really wack ass apps out there.
In a way it's like linux vs ms... the mindcraft benchmark fiasco basically made linux say 'oh, gotta get better' and we did, and everyone benifits right?
I think what was more important that the actors, stupid jar jar, bad lines, or plot holes was what it set up and what it explained for episode II and III. When I got out of the movie the first time (12:15am show on opening night thank-you-very-much) I spent about an hour with a friend of mine discussing what had to happen in II and III based on what we had just seen and what we know will happen in IV.
Basically the set up for the Empire, how Anikin came to be under Obi-wan's teaching, how Obi-wan wasn't ready etc were all things that greatly affected how the "Star Wars Universe" was. TPM in a way just added depth to the characters that we saw in IV-VI.