i won't go into details, you can find them out by doing a google search but while it is possible it is not nearly as easy to copy a DVD, especially if you want a true duplication of the original disc.
no girls girls that would see a movie for nsync
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regardless you won't find me in line for this piece of shit.
i'm sorry but i know other people who drool over the iPod, i just find it totally useless. when exactly am i going to need this little device?
i have a book of CDs i carry around, it has 98 cds in it.. at an average of at least 10 songs per CD that's nearly 1k songs with superior audio quality.
granted it can't sit on my hip, but really, i'm not that concerned. it sits in my car or on my desk most of the time.
i suppose if you are a student with no car, who walks and/or rides the bus a lot it might be useful but for most IT-geeks i don't think it's useful.. we have high bandwidth connections at home and work, it really wouldn't take much longer to just d/l the mp3s you want vs. copying them back and forth over the iPod.
...dave
this is the last time i'm replying to this thread..
first off see my reply to a guy higher up in this thread about MMORPGs on consoles. MS has one already it's called Asheron's Call:P
as i've said (also in other places in this thread), i do not think most games that are good on WANs (ie the INTARWEB) work well on consoles.
these being FPS and MMORPGs and games like diablo, the console versions of these games are always far inferior to their PC siblings.
...dave
i'm apprehensive about this
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i don't think these types of games work that well on consoles, i think they're quite a bit better on PCs. most of the market for this type of game are geeks too (at least the ones i met in my brief stint with EverQuest.)
i'd be interested to see the size of the user base for POS vs. EverQuest/Asheron's Call/etc.
we'll see though.
...dave
it is somewhat chicken and egg
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but ethernet support has been a known standard feature of the x-box yet few games are coming out with support for it..
IMHO, the types of games that work well on consoles do not lend themselves to WAN play. you already have LAN capability on the PSX2, and that works great (playing Gran Turismo 3 on two or more TVs, etc.)
being able to put your console on the internet is not a reason to buy it, IMHO. i'm also not interested in loading mediocre media onto it to get mediocre playback. i have a top-of-the-line DVD player for a reason.:)
...dave
you can build a pc to be quiet, it just takes a little effort because there's not much demand for it.:/ though i bet people would want it if they knew they could have it. they've just accepted computers == noisey (especially powerful ones!).. kinda like it used to be the norm that cars had to pollute a lot and get bad mileage.
...dave
talk to me when you get out of high school
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little boy, my car probably costs more than you've earned in your entire life.
...dave
oi vey! your stupidity is painful
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you even quoted the part where i explain what i meant.
read it again.
in plain terms : ethernet now == not useful.
ethernet in the future == probably useful.
but the console developers need to start putting it to use, and if you look at all the upcoming big titles, they aren't. please do a little thought before you knee-jerk back your drivel in my direction.
...dave
but it will look better and play better (IMHO, mouse and keyboard vs. controller.. and don't give me that you can have a mouse and keyboard for your console, like i wanna bend over to use those on my coffee table) on the PC.
...dave
a) more storange is not necessarily a bad thing, but it's not a reason to buy a console. the games are. one memory card is enough for probably all the games you could be playing at one time (unless you're like one of my friends who makes save games in final fantasy every 5 minutes.) of course a bit of caching would be nice too, but it's not a reason to buy a console.. actuall most games on the PSX2 don't have *that* awful of load times.
b) ethernet WOULD be nice if some games would use it but none are! (not literally, but none of the big games.)
you need to stop and think about things a bit before you go off on me again.
...dave
you could do everything you describe
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on a PC placed in your living room, if you really wanted to. there are *gasp* TV-out cards, you know.
the only thing you couldn't do is play good console games, which you can't on the X-Box anyway.
because no DC games (including PSO) interested me.
i'm glad you found it fun, but you have to realize that you are in the minority. in order for a feature like that to be included on consoles enough people have to want it to be profitable, and it's not.
...dave
you miss my point entirely
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as did a bunch of other people who replied to me.
an ethernet connection can be a useful thing, but currently there are ZERO GAMES which are announced to use such a thing on the consoles.
in case you missed the clueboat, PSX2's are already linkable to each other.
there are ways that it COULD be used, but it is not being used. personally, i don't think they're such a boon to console games that i'm angry it's not there.
...dave
well that's great for you
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but i personally feel no need to find opponents on the internet. more importantly though, currently no games take advantage of this.
GT4 is supposedly going to include an online world where people can participate in real scheduled events, etc. that will be neat. but right now it doesn't matter at all, was my point.
...dave
uhh yeah let me drive to Redmond..
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to collect my money from you.
yes i have and they are complete and utter junk.
...dave
the problem is that, yes anastasia...
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you can build a better PC for the cost you're talking about. bigger harddrive will be $100, so for $400 you can build a better machine than the X-Box.:P or right around there anyway, and it will have a case that's actually a lot easier to work on! (and hell you can buy one of those fancy-schmansy all aluminum cases.)
...dave
too bad it was going to be a big leap forward
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being a big cross-breed between RTS and FPS.. but MS required bungie to orient it more toward the X-Box.
i mean, how would an RTS really play on a console? those that have been ported over have been very poor echoes of their PC versions.
oh well:P yet another possibly great thing MS managed to stomp into the ground.
...dave
your statements don't work
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you claim things are good (such as having a PC in the living room or having an ethernet or a harddrive on a console) but you don't explain why these things are good.
i'll tell you my take; both of those things are not good in and of themselves.
i don't have my PC in my living room, it's in my bedroom. the console is in the living room with the TV. i play different games on them, completely different (RTS, RPG on the computer, Gran Turismo, Mario, Zelda, Final Fantasy (which are not RPG IMHO) on the console.)
an ethernet connection on a console isn't some gaming messiah. there are currently no games which i could see benefitting from this on any console, nor any in the future. same with having a hard drive. great, it'd lead to faster and more saved games. dandy. personally i don't run out of space on my memory cards, but that's me. this by itself is not a reason to buy a console.
as this salon article says (and i hate salon), it's the games, stupid. great games sell consoles, mediocre games sell a few as will the flood of adverts that MS has put out.
but in the end, there are no interesting games for the console, thus it is uninteresting and will ultimately fail.
personally, i'm spending $700 on a new computer which has more than twice the power (and 5 times the storage space, and that's nothing) of the X-box. there are actually interesting games for this computer i'm buying; civ3, dark ages of camelot, max payne (which i still haven't played), et cetera.
anyway, this is a dead horse i'll stop beating it.
...dave
i won't go into details, you can find them out by doing a google search but while it is possible it is not nearly as easy to copy a DVD, especially if you want a true duplication of the original disc.
regardless you won't find me in line for this piece of shit.
ok let's see the consoles Sony has faced since the initial PlayStation :
Nintendo 64
Sega Saturn
Dreamcast
GameCube
X-Box
sorry but none of those are 'superior', the argument can be made that they are 'equivallent' but not 'superior'.
go away you ignoramus.
imbeciles. if you don't get enough exercise in your daily activities you need a better hobby.
...dave
..something useful?
i'm sorry but i know other people who drool over the iPod, i just find it totally useless. when exactly am i going to need this little device?
i have a book of CDs i carry around, it has 98 cds in it.. at an average of at least 10 songs per CD that's nearly 1k songs with superior audio quality.
granted it can't sit on my hip, but really, i'm not that concerned. it sits in my car or on my desk most of the time.
i suppose if you are a student with no car, who walks and/or rides the bus a lot it might be useful but for most IT-geeks i don't think it's useful.. we have high bandwidth connections at home and work, it really wouldn't take much longer to just d/l the mp3s you want vs. copying them back and forth over the iPod.
...dave
this is the last time i'm replying to this thread..
first off see my reply to a guy higher up in this thread about MMORPGs on consoles. MS has one already it's called Asheron's Call
as i've said (also in other places in this thread), i do not think most games that are good on WANs (ie the INTARWEB) work well on consoles.
these being FPS and MMORPGs and games like diablo, the console versions of these games are always far inferior to their PC siblings.
...dave
i don't think these types of games work that well on consoles, i think they're quite a bit better on PCs. most of the market for this type of game are geeks too (at least the ones i met in my brief stint with EverQuest.)
i'd be interested to see the size of the user base for POS vs. EverQuest/Asheron's Call/etc.
we'll see though.
...dave
but ethernet support has been a known standard feature of the x-box yet few games are coming out with support for it..
IMHO, the types of games that work well on consoles do not lend themselves to WAN play. you already have LAN capability on the PSX2, and that works great (playing Gran Turismo 3 on two or more TVs, etc.)
being able to put your console on the internet is not a reason to buy it, IMHO. i'm also not interested in loading mediocre media onto it to get mediocre playback. i have a top-of-the-line DVD player for a reason.
...dave
it's not like any of the consoles are quiet.
you can build a pc to be quiet, it just takes a little effort because there's not much demand for it.
...dave
little boy, my car probably costs more than you've earned in your entire life.
...dave
you even quoted the part where i explain what i meant.
read it again.
in plain terms : ethernet now == not useful.
ethernet in the future == probably useful.
but the console developers need to start putting it to use, and if you look at all the upcoming big titles, they aren't. please do a little thought before you knee-jerk back your drivel in my direction.
...dave
but it will look better and play better (IMHO, mouse and keyboard vs. controller.. and don't give me that you can have a mouse and keyboard for your console, like i wanna bend over to use those on my coffee table) on the PC.
...dave
you miss my point.
a) more storange is not necessarily a bad thing, but it's not a reason to buy a console. the games are. one memory card is enough for probably all the games you could be playing at one time (unless you're like one of my friends who makes save games in final fantasy every 5 minutes.) of course a bit of caching would be nice too, but it's not a reason to buy a console.. actuall most games on the PSX2 don't have *that* awful of load times.
b) ethernet WOULD be nice if some games would use it but none are! (not literally, but none of the big games.)
you need to stop and think about things a bit before you go off on me again.
...dave
on a PC placed in your living room, if you really wanted to. there are *gasp* TV-out cards, you know.
the only thing you couldn't do is play good console games, which you can't on the X-Box anyway.
sorry guy, but you're just blowing smoke.
...dave
because no DC games (including PSO) interested me.
i'm glad you found it fun, but you have to realize that you are in the minority. in order for a feature like that to be included on consoles enough people have to want it to be profitable, and it's not.
...dave
as did a bunch of other people who replied to me.
an ethernet connection can be a useful thing, but currently there are ZERO GAMES which are announced to use such a thing on the consoles.
in case you missed the clueboat, PSX2's are already linkable to each other.
there are ways that it COULD be used, but it is not being used. personally, i don't think they're such a boon to console games that i'm angry it's not there.
...dave
but i personally feel no need to find opponents on the internet. more importantly though, currently no games take advantage of this.
GT4 is supposedly going to include an online world where people can participate in real scheduled events, etc. that will be neat. but right now it doesn't matter at all, was my point.
...dave
to collect my money from you.
yes i have and they are complete and utter junk.
...dave
you can build a better PC for the cost you're talking about. bigger harddrive will be $100, so for $400 you can build a better machine than the X-Box.
...dave
being a big cross-breed between RTS and FPS.. but MS required bungie to orient it more toward the X-Box.
i mean, how would an RTS really play on a console? those that have been ported over have been very poor echoes of their PC versions.
oh well
...dave
you claim things are good (such as having a PC in the living room or having an ethernet or a harddrive on a console) but you don't explain why these things are good.
i'll tell you my take; both of those things are not good in and of themselves.
i don't have my PC in my living room, it's in my bedroom. the console is in the living room with the TV. i play different games on them, completely different (RTS, RPG on the computer, Gran Turismo, Mario, Zelda, Final Fantasy (which are not RPG IMHO) on the console.)
an ethernet connection on a console isn't some gaming messiah. there are currently no games which i could see benefitting from this on any console, nor any in the future. same with having a hard drive. great, it'd lead to faster and more saved games. dandy. personally i don't run out of space on my memory cards, but that's me. this by itself is not a reason to buy a console.
as this salon article says (and i hate salon), it's the games, stupid. great games sell consoles, mediocre games sell a few as will the flood of adverts that MS has put out.
but in the end, there are no interesting games for the console, thus it is uninteresting and will ultimately fail.
personally, i'm spending $700 on a new computer which has more than twice the power (and 5 times the storage space, and that's nothing) of the X-box. there are actually interesting games for this computer i'm buying; civ3, dark ages of camelot, max payne (which i still haven't played), et cetera.
anyway, this is a dead horse i'll stop beating it.
...dave
you don't read fucking Marquis de Sade to your children, and you don't watch Blue Velvet with them either.
if a movie has unfit content, then it probably isn't fit for them period. cutting out shit is not a solution, watching something else is.
you stupid useless waste of space.
a way for the ignorant to protect their precious naivite! huzzah!
next there will be special version of eBooks, which will be available in modes of :
- regular
- idiot
- imbecile
- nimrod
- cretin
- buffoon
- troll
what a wonderful innovation..
...dave
you would definitely win the 'i'm a gigantic fucking moron prize'..
of course it's intended to refer to the p4 2GHz, that is no coincidence, that's a referrence in a competitive sense.
i'm too busy, lazy and apathetic to bother.