as has been stated on/. hundreds of times by now, the AthlonXP has nothing to do with windows XP. it was conceived totally separately, and is a coincidence, odd as that seems.
they stand for different things, etc.
try doing a little investigation before you just blurt out some random stupidity.
...dave
your post makes it blatantly obvious you are firstly ignorant of anything that happened in the computer industry before 1995.
in no way did MS-DOS make the PC ubiquitous. it's the other way around, jackass. DOS was just along for the ride. nobody bought a PC because DOS was so great.
in terms your PR-addled brain can understand: DOS itself was not the 'killer app.'
my point had nothing to do with MS themselves giving away free software, you bring up your same point again. which is valid, but was so obvious a five year old would have known it.
look, i'd argue with you further but it's clear you won't understand any viewpoint but your own. so very sad.
...dave
1) bill gates claims MS responsibility for the popularity of the IBM-clone (see the post above yours, great job done on that.)
2) he claims people making software for free, then companies stealing it is a 'cycle'. he admits GPL breaks this, but he sees it as a bad thing of course.
3) MS is trying to build 'grass roots' support for windows,.. ie, make a site that is to windows as/. (mostly is) to linux.
i'd say your handle is your iq, but... i think that'd be too generous:P
...dave
i'm glad your experience is good
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i don't even do word processing or any of that, i only use my computer for web browsing, e-mail, coding and games at home. so if i had all the games i wanted to play in linux i'd be set, but i don't so... i still keep win2k on my machine.
...dave
but last time i checked (and admittedly it was not in the last 3 months), it was not so easy on Red Hat, SuSE or debian. It was SUPPOSED to be very straight-forward but due to incorrect library dependancies, mis-placement, etc. it was not the simple it matter it should/could have been.
...dave
i have no problem with your bizarre taste in games
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but you should be aware that your taste in games is not in-line with most of the world.
whether or not you like diablo 2 you should be aware it is a fantastically popular game. tens of thousands of people play it every day.
your thinking is also skewed in that porting games to linux is not 'competing' with windows. i suppose it would be if there were any possibility of competition, but linux games are for people who want to avoid having to boot into windows to play their games, because they're in linux the rest of the time.
as far as mod-friendly games for linux, half-life is the only one i can think of out of the 'holy trinity' (q3, ut and half-life) that is not currently under linux.
the idea (which you almost kind of brush against) that there should be original linx-platform games is a great one and there are lots of amateur games under development, but almost no one who wouldn't be running linux anyway is going to install it just to play one or two games.
the whole underlying issue to this entire discussion (which i've addressed several times now in this thread) is that linux is NOT ready for Joe Q. Gamer to put on his machine and play all his games, even if they WERE all available. the main failing is hardware support and Mesa's ease-of-use. (i also tend to think that most of the KDE/Gnome setups on the main distros are very clunky and fugly by default.)
...dave
but the market is smaller than it could be, and i think it is shrinking instead of growing, mainly because Mesa is non-trivial to install and set up for most people, and as you point out, hardware support is not the best.
...dave
if they truly believed they could make *any* money they'd do it. it's very hard to make money with games, the margins for the authors and publishers are smaller than most people realize.
the issue is they do not believe there is even a market, and right now i tend to agree. (that was the point of my post, sorry if i wasn't totally clear.)
...dave
this is neither healthy nor a sign of life
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as much as i love loki and all they've done, this is not a good sign. i'd love to see loki become as successful as any of the really big game houses. porting old, mediocre (at best) games is not how it's going to happen. even i have a limit to the number of games i'll buy that i have no intention of playing just to support the company.
loki should be porting diablo 2, planescape torment, total annihilation, warcraft 3, etc. big, mainstream games that lots of people want to play. the question is, why aren't they? that's almost certainly due to the original authors not being interested in a linux version.
as much as i hate to admit it, i think linux's chances as a game platform have gone down the drain. the linux hype has gotten considerably less prevelant, and i'm willing to bet there are fewer people running it as their main home OS than in recent memory and that number is only going down.
there have not been any major improvements in this area which would draw people to it recently.. ease of installation hit the point where anyone able to install windows could do it a while ago. however, once the system is up and running, it's not so easy to get new things (like Mesa) set up. this has not improved.
and as i said, it's been a while since a big game was ported to linux.
all in all i don't see any light at the end of this tunnell. it pains me to say so because i've been using linux as my main desktop OS for years and years and always was really optimistic about it.
...dave
the 'next big thing' would be wonderful, however, we don't even have a a 'next big thing' re: IBM, let alone MS.
i don't know how close or far we are from the home computer and business computer markets drastically changing (visa vie the automobile industry), but i agree that it must come along at some point.
but MS is a horrible, anti-competitive juggernaut which must be dealt with. you shoot a rabid dog, you put a destructive child through therapy and maybe medication. the choice here is, dog or child?
...dave
it's nice to think the market will do to MS what it did to IBM, but you must remember that with IBM viable alternatives which functioned *identically* to IBM's product were available.
with MS there is no 'windows clone' to switch to, the only way that the market could take care of MS is by switching to another product, and right now there is nothing. linux is not what most people need. i doubt it ever will be.
...dave
Salon is a great site, and I'm personally willing to put up with a few ads.
When in fact the truth is that Salon is and always has been (since their URL was 'salon1999.com') a complete pile of shit.
Salon is a site where biased idiots spout of bullshit on any subject they wish and call it 'jounalism.' Once in a great while a decent story will drunkenly stumble onto Salon's pages, but that is an event not unlike a hillbilly finding crude oil in his backyard. You shouldn't attempt to set your watch to it.
the series has already been picked up and more than one episode created. a PILOT is a SINGLE show to test the reaction to a series before more episodes are made.
actually you beat me to the obvious magic referrence, damn you!
ornithopters have been flying for years in the magic world!
i also think it should be noted that only *piloted* ornithopters are non-existant, i'm sure everyone's seen little model ones you can buy at the store (the most famous of which being the wound rubber band plastic bird.)
...dave
first of all, if you're that out of control of your own emotions that you a) can't control your reaction to a song and b) can't change the fucking station then well.. you're a very sad little person.
second, did you even look at the fucking list? now granted a lot of it is shit, but a lot of it is really good.. and a good portion i think would actually be songs you'd *want* to listen to at this point in time, more than others.
this is censorship in every way, this is not a suggestion, this is corporate black listing, and very arbitrary at that.
i lost all hope for radio years ago, and haven't used the radio in my car other than a week ago today in a year.
...dave
my room-mate and have just what you describe at the end,.. a P90 running slackware, with telnetd, et al disabled, and two cheap ethernet cards.
it works amazingly well, had two months of constant service until a power blip caused it to reboot the other day (yeah yeah, i need to get a UPS.)
it's amazingly cheap (read: nigh-unto free) and quite hassle free in its own right. not only that but it's breath-takingly easy to configure and maintain for anyone who probably reads/. with any regularity.
...dave
get your figures straight, at most 50k people *worked* at the WTC.. the place was not full when the bombing occurred, nor did everyone in the building die.
have you ever heard of the notion that living in the past leads to tripping over the future?
btw, everyone in mensa is as dumb as a brick. it's a group for idiots to tell each other their intelligent.
...dave
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they stand for different things, etc.
try doing a little investigation before you just blurt out some random stupidity.
...dave
your post makes it blatantly obvious you are firstly ignorant of anything that happened in the computer industry before 1995.
in no way did MS-DOS make the PC ubiquitous. it's the other way around, jackass. DOS was just along for the ride. nobody bought a PC because DOS was so great.
in terms your PR-addled brain can understand: DOS itself was not the 'killer app.'
my point had nothing to do with MS themselves giving away free software, you bring up your same point again. which is valid, but was so obvious a five year old would have known it.
look, i'd argue with you further but it's clear you won't understand any viewpoint but your own. so very sad.
...dave
nobody said they were intelligent,...
...dave
as though it weren't patently obvious :
1) bill gates claims MS responsibility for the popularity of the IBM-clone (see the post above yours, great job done on that.)
2) he claims people making software for free, then companies stealing it is a 'cycle'. he admits GPL breaks this, but he sees it as a bad thing of course.
3) MS is trying to build 'grass roots' support for windows,.. ie, make a site that is to windows as
i'd say your handle is your iq, but... i think that'd be too generous
...dave
i don't even do word processing or any of that, i only use my computer for web browsing, e-mail, coding and games at home. so if i had all the games i wanted to play in linux i'd be set, but i don't so... i still keep win2k on my machine.
...dave
but last time i checked (and admittedly it was not in the last 3 months), it was not so easy on Red Hat, SuSE or debian. It was SUPPOSED to be very straight-forward but due to incorrect library dependancies, mis-placement, etc. it was not the simple it matter it should/could have been.
...dave
but you should be aware that your taste in games is not in-line with most of the world.
whether or not you like diablo 2 you should be aware it is a fantastically popular game. tens of thousands of people play it every day.
your thinking is also skewed in that porting games to linux is not 'competing' with windows. i suppose it would be if there were any possibility of competition, but linux games are for people who want to avoid having to boot into windows to play their games, because they're in linux the rest of the time.
as far as mod-friendly games for linux, half-life is the only one i can think of out of the 'holy trinity' (q3, ut and half-life) that is not currently under linux.
the idea (which you almost kind of brush against) that there should be original linx-platform games is a great one and there are lots of amateur games under development, but almost no one who wouldn't be running linux anyway is going to install it just to play one or two games.
the whole underlying issue to this entire discussion (which i've addressed several times now in this thread) is that linux is NOT ready for Joe Q. Gamer to put on his machine and play all his games, even if they WERE all available. the main failing is hardware support and Mesa's ease-of-use. (i also tend to think that most of the KDE/Gnome setups on the main distros are very clunky and fugly by default.)
...dave
but the market is smaller than it could be, and i think it is shrinking instead of growing, mainly because Mesa is non-trivial to install and set up for most people, and as you point out, hardware support is not the best.
...dave
actually i hadn't seen those, and they will help.. but i do still worry why they are wasting time and resources on a game like postal.
...dave
if they truly believed they could make *any* money they'd do it. it's very hard to make money with games, the margins for the authors and publishers are smaller than most people realize.
the issue is they do not believe there is even a market, and right now i tend to agree. (that was the point of my post, sorry if i wasn't totally clear.)
...dave
as much as i love loki and all they've done, this is not a good sign. i'd love to see loki become as successful as any of the really big game houses. porting old, mediocre (at best) games is not how it's going to happen. even i have a limit to the number of games i'll buy that i have no intention of playing just to support the company.
loki should be porting diablo 2, planescape torment, total annihilation, warcraft 3, etc. big, mainstream games that lots of people want to play. the question is, why aren't they? that's almost certainly due to the original authors not being interested in a linux version.
as much as i hate to admit it, i think linux's chances as a game platform have gone down the drain. the linux hype has gotten considerably less prevelant, and i'm willing to bet there are fewer people running it as their main home OS than in recent memory and that number is only going down.
there have not been any major improvements in this area which would draw people to it recently.. ease of installation hit the point where anyone able to install windows could do it a while ago. however, once the system is up and running, it's not so easy to get new things (like Mesa) set up. this has not improved.
and as i said, it's been a while since a big game was ported to linux.
all in all i don't see any light at the end of this tunnell. it pains me to say so because i've been using linux as my main desktop OS for years and years and always was really optimistic about it.
...dave
the 'next big thing' would be wonderful, however, we don't even have a a 'next big thing' re: IBM, let alone MS.
i don't know how close or far we are from the home computer and business computer markets drastically changing (visa vie the automobile industry), but i agree that it must come along at some point.
but MS is a horrible, anti-competitive juggernaut which must be dealt with. you shoot a rabid dog, you put a destructive child through therapy and maybe medication. the choice here is, dog or child?
...dave
it's nice to think the market will do to MS what it did to IBM, but you must remember that with IBM viable alternatives which functioned *identically* to IBM's product were available.
with MS there is no 'windows clone' to switch to, the only way that the market could take care of MS is by switching to another product, and right now there is nothing. linux is not what most people need. i doubt it ever will be.
...dave
You said :
Salon is a great site, and I'm personally willing to put up with a few ads.
When in fact the truth is that Salon is and always has been (since their URL was 'salon1999.com') a complete pile of shit.
Salon is a site where biased idiots spout of bullshit on any subject they wish and call it 'jounalism.' Once in a great while a decent story will drunkenly stumble onto Salon's pages, but that is an event not unlike a hillbilly finding crude oil in his backyard. You shouldn't attempt to set your watch to it.
Thanks,
David W. Matteson, Esq.
the series has already been picked up and more than one episode created. a PILOT is a SINGLE show to test the reaction to a series before more episodes are made.
idiot.
...dave
actually you beat me to the obvious magic referrence, damn you!
ornithopters have been flying for years in the magic world!
i also think it should be noted that only *piloted* ornithopters are non-existant, i'm sure everyone's seen little model ones you can buy at the store (the most famous of which being the wound rubber band plastic bird.)
...dave
that makes it all better!! of course that seems like a perfectly reasonable and non-predatory thing to do.
jackass.
...dave
..up your ass.
the spelling correction was helpful, the whining about 'clear channel slander' is not.
...dave
1) it won't save lives.
2) the acts last week were completely low-tech.
3) people who say 'to the max' fail.
...dave
it wouldn't be a large number of people changing the station, that much is obvious.
you managed to totally dodge my point and instead spout of worthless babble. please, next time you think about posting, don't.
...dave
first of all, if you're that out of control of your own emotions that you a) can't control your reaction to a song and b) can't change the fucking station then well.. you're a very sad little person.
second, did you even look at the fucking list? now granted a lot of it is shit, but a lot of it is really good.. and a good portion i think would actually be songs you'd *want* to listen to at this point in time, more than others.
this is censorship in every way, this is not a suggestion, this is corporate black listing, and very arbitrary at that.
i lost all hope for radio years ago, and haven't used the radio in my car other than a week ago today in a year.
...dave
my room-mate and have just what you describe at the end,.. a P90 running slackware, with telnetd, et al disabled, and two cheap ethernet cards.
it works amazingly well, had two months of constant service until a power blip caused it to reboot the other day (yeah yeah, i need to get a UPS.)
it's amazingly cheap (read: nigh-unto free) and quite hassle free in its own right. not only that but it's breath-takingly easy to configure and maintain for anyone who probably reads
...dave
people who post just to point out typo(e)s (your preferrence) == retarded.
...dave
get your figures straight, at most 50k people *worked* at the WTC.. the place was not full when the bombing occurred, nor did everyone in the building die.
have you ever heard of the notion that living in the past leads to tripping over the future?
btw, everyone in mensa is as dumb as a brick. it's a group for idiots to tell each other their intelligent.
...dave
they're at least 5 members smaller now..
...dave