Slide "0223r" states the GPL is "For protecting the individual programmer" and "Against ownership or commercialization of software".
The GPL is in place to PROTECT THE END USER so that, as the fable goes, he can get working printer drivers, etc. It's not to protect the programmer at all but the user!
Also, if the GPL is so much against commercialization of software why are so many companies using linux and/or GPL'd software like Apple (GCC), TiVo (Linux), etc?
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IRC also relavant as it does not maintain a list of users that you are interested in talking to, an notify you when they go online.
That's what the ISON command is for, most clients do have a notify function. Just because almost nobody uses it anymore doesn't mean it isn't there.
For the record, no, I don't work for whatever company you're getting DSL through, Pacbell you said, right? Anyways...
Isn't that enough "evidence" the person knows what the fuck they are talking about???
No for reasons already stated.
Ohh, right. Bring in the Urban Legends, why don't you.
They are not urban legends, they are *real*, I have had them. Like the guy complaining about not getting a dialtone: "Yeah, I have it plugged in", and after 10 minutes of troubleshooting I find out that he plugged it into his ethernet port.
Again, you're NOT verifying anything. You are getting the person on the other end to verify everything.
Yes I am, because if they read it quickly they have less chance of making something up trying to "sanitize" their answers.
1) your numbers don't add up to 100%
Some people never get fixed, sad but true.
2) Maybe there should be, oh, I don't know- a way for the smart people to skip the crap and get to the help they need?
How would you differentiate? If you're so pissed off at a company why keep them as your provider? Switch already, jesus.
Arrogant or not, listen when someone tells you they configure networks for a living.
Why should I? The 500 people before you who said the same thing were as dumb as posts, why should I think you're any different? They were just as arrogant, adamant and rude as you.
It takes 30 seconds for me to reel off my network settings and the person at the other end to check that they correct. Leaving the other 9 minutes and 30 seconds to actually fix the problem.
Except when you're using an unsupported OS (linux) which also has the wonderful nicities of netfilter and other technologies which can screw up a connection even though everything *seems* correct. Which is why we don't support you and we don't take your word for it unless you're using a windows box and we check the settings ourselves because, again, the last 500 people before you who claimed they were cluefull were dumb as posts and the issue was on their end.
And as for the 'support Linux' et al: I'm not asking you to support my damn box - I am more than happy to support my own box. But the ONLY 'my end' problems I've called tech support for since first getting DSL in '98 were flaky ISP provided modems that had to be power cycled after locking up mysteriously in the middle of the night.
As soon as you call you're asking us to support it whether you think you are or not. We have to troubleshoot unless we have extraordinary evidence to prove conclusively one finding, period. We don't know you, we don't know your abilities, we cannot take your word for it that your computer is setup properly because, again, the last 500 people who claimed they knew what they were doing really didn't.
Sure, it's really easy to say "listen to the customer!" but when you do you end up missing the simple issue of "is it plugged in?" because they said it was but they're experiencing a power outage and wondering why their computer wont turn on. Customers lie to us all the time, they mislead or give us wrong information because they don't know any better, or even worse they think they do.
Any tech agent worth anything learns to completely disregard 90% of what customers say and verify everything on his own. Sure, the.01% of cluefull customers get a little pissed off at it, but the 99% of customers get their shit fixed because of it, and they're the ones who pay the bills.
Arrogant pricks like you piss me off more than stupid people, and I do TS for a living.
You don't seem to realize that there is no way in hell we can guage your intelligence in a 10 minute phone call. No, saying you are a network administrator/engineer does not make us think any more of you because half the people who are calling us for tech support ARE network administrators who run Win2k networks and have no clue how to set user permissions!
I had a customer profess over and over that he was a cisco engineer, he made routers for a living and our network was down! Uninstalled and reinstalled his dialup networking in windows and look at that, back on the net...
If I had a nickle for every time I've told a customer that he would have to talk to his network admin to fix his network and then have them reply "I am the network admin" I would be a very rich man.
Also, if you're so intelligent why can't you understand that there is no way we can support Linux, *BSD, BeOS, QNX, etc? What part of "Windows and MacOS support only" don't you understand? A select few may be able to pull off Linux support but not every tech can and if we do it we set customer expectation that "well the LAST guy I spoke to helped me!" and start pissing more people off.
Your singular account is quite the exception and not the rule.
Now, I'm not a big fan of scripts and I don't use them myself, we don't generally have scripts where I work. But we do have a thing called support boundaries (only supporting what you make) which I follow almost to the letter because I understand the merits for both I and the customer, even though the customer may think less of me.
1. smaller dimension (anything bigger than my 270 will be junked, in fact, I wish it was 30% smaller) 2. better sound quality for the phone 3. longer battery life
Your first wish completely removes and is converse to the second and third.
You cannot have longer battery life if you make the battery smaller. Same with sound quality, to be better would require more space in the unit.
People want everything, it isn't going to happen. You cannot have it all right now, you have to pick pros/cons and compromise, especially when it comes to battery technology as it is right now and will be for the near future.
if he's an audiophile, he may have a predjustice against flatpanel speakers, as they are slightly "tinny" and you'd be better off getting him more "traditional" cone speakers.
These speakers have cones on the bottom with the flat panel portion at the top to create the best of both worlds. The imaging from these speakers is so immersing you would swear they were anything but flat.
I have a set of these flat panel Monsoon MH-505 5.1 speakers and they *rock*. They are also relatively cheap and should fit your budget nicely.
The sub is slightly underpowered for some but if you have a good soundcard (I use a Hercules Game Theater XP) you should be able to boost the sub channel. Also going against the installation guide and aiming the sub at a wall from about 1 ft distance works well.
I was a little skeptical about the flat panel speakers, however they not only look cool they produce amazing sound aswell. You have to play them for awhile to "break them in" until they sound their best.
You will need 3 sony minijack hookups from your soundcard to use them (front, surround and center/sub) so if you don't have those you will have to get additional hookups. My soundcard has RCA connectors for the center/sub so I had to get a sony minijack to RCA splitter.
Well, d'oh, you use a file system that supports simultaneous accesses, don't you?
Not by different *computers*. File storage tables are normally stored in memory by the OS because they're small and it speeds up disk access. It's a race condition. Suppose you have this wonderous hard drive attached to two computers - power both machines up at the same time, they both copy the file system data into memory and now they want to write... They both allocate the same disk blocks and start writing over eachother turning your data into nicely destroyed swiss cheese.
Why not use ethernet sharing? Because there's a single point of failure. Your drive is attached to a file server. Your file server is attached to your database servers. If your file server goes down, your database servers are cut off.
Or you could get a network access storage (NAS) appliance...
That's all I need, two computers with two different ideas of how the filesystem should look performaing simultaneous reads/writes on the same disk fubaring everything. Are you sure this is what you want? Why not just use simple ethernet sharing, NFS/Samba/whatever? I'm thinking it would be a lot more stable.
Horrible option because not only do you receive a slowdown from the added encapsulation - you break compatibility (MTU has to be less than 1456 or some such) but also from the PPPoE concentrator. It may not be geographically or networkingly(sp?) close to you so you add latency. Also if the concentrator is flakey, slow or goes down you receive more angry phone calls from customers whos connection just turned to shit.
Well I use the Royal Bank of Canada and American Express and they not only both work great with Mozilla but RBC has one of the best online banking sites I have ever used, it even accesses my other accounts from other banks and gives me everything on one page!
ING Direct on the other hand has one of the worst web pages I've ever seen or used. It's like it was done by a preschooler with big huge orange buttons and dumb phrases at the top. It works with all browsers though so I guess I shouldn't complain.
The issue you're having seems to be a language one as I believe english is your second (third, fourth?) language.
Wether you *should* be able to use the software for whatever means necessary is not an issue here. What is the issue is if you have the *right* to, and in the case of BitKeeper you do not.
You don't seem to understand. This license effects users of software. It has nothing to do with developers. [...] Is the use of software now subject to a license?
It is you who does not understand. Yes the use of software is bound by a license. It's called the END USER LICENSE AGREEMENT which in the case of BitKeeper prevents any DEVELOPER from using BitKeeper if they work on a competator of BitKeeper.
Your opinion means nothing as you have no grasp of the legal system in place.
After checking out listen.com and the article the into is very deceptive. You can't just pop off $0.99 and download an mp3. You have to sign up for a $9.95/mo plan and *use their "rhapsody" software* which looks to be windows only and *then* pay $0.99 on top of that for every track you want. Hardly worth it.
This is why the tech bubble burst people! Bad business plans. Risking your entire business on the ranking your competitor gives your pages? What was this retard thinking?
1. Make search engine 2. Post ads for it on high google page ranked sites 3. ??? 4. Profit!
To all you people saying the web is not a visual medium I have one word to say to you: bullshit.
It's as much a visual medium as books, pictures, newsprint and magazines. You don't see blind people suing Time Life because they can't read their rags.
Now people, quit using the horrible metaphors and analogies, they don't work and they're not necessary. Webmasters should *not* be forced to make their pages play nice with text to speech hacks in the same way book publishers are not forced to publish their books on audio CD/Cassette.
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I'll leave scientifically valid theories as to other ways they might communicate to someone advanced enough to figrue that out.
Two words: Quantum pairing.
-- iCEBaLM
Except for people outside the US who cannot use the TiVo service (or actually buy a TiVo).
-- iCEBaLM
Slide "0223r" states the GPL is "For protecting the individual programmer" and "Against ownership or commercialization of software".
The GPL is in place to PROTECT THE END USER so that, as the fable goes, he can get working printer drivers, etc. It's not to protect the programmer at all but the user!
Also, if the GPL is so much against commercialization of software why are so many companies using linux and/or GPL'd software like Apple (GCC), TiVo (Linux), etc?
-- iCEBaLM
IRC also relavant as it does not maintain a list of users that you are interested in talking to, an notify you when they go online.
That's what the ISON command is for, most clients do have a notify function. Just because almost nobody uses it anymore doesn't mean it isn't there.
-- iCEBaLM
For small values of 1. Sorry.
Yes, math skills = bad. You mean LARGE values of 1 or SMALL values of 5 which would weigh the numbers toward 1.....
-- iCEBaLM
Uninstall it and reinstall it, when asked if you want to do any updates in the future click "No".
-- iCEBaLM
For the record, no, I don't work for whatever company you're getting DSL through, Pacbell you said, right? Anyways...
Isn't that enough "evidence" the person knows what the fuck they are talking about???
No for reasons already stated.
Ohh, right. Bring in the Urban Legends, why don't you.
They are not urban legends, they are *real*, I have had them. Like the guy complaining about not getting a dialtone: "Yeah, I have it plugged in", and after 10 minutes of troubleshooting I find out that he plugged it into his ethernet port.
Again, you're NOT verifying anything. You are getting the person on the other end to verify everything.
Yes I am, because if they read it quickly they have less chance of making something up trying to "sanitize" their answers.
1) your numbers don't add up to 100%
Some people never get fixed, sad but true.
2) Maybe there should be, oh, I don't know- a way for the smart people to skip the crap and get to the help they need?
How would you differentiate? If you're so pissed off at a company why keep them as your provider? Switch already, jesus.
-- iCEBaLM
I'm going to reply once to both your posts.
.01% of cluefull customers get a little pissed off at it, but the 99% of customers get their shit fixed because of it, and they're the ones who pay the bills.
Arrogant or not, listen when someone tells you they configure networks for a living.
Why should I? The 500 people before you who said the same thing were as dumb as posts, why should I think you're any different? They were just as arrogant, adamant and rude as you.
It takes 30 seconds for me to reel off my network settings and the person at the other end to check that they correct. Leaving the other 9 minutes and 30 seconds to actually fix the problem.
Except when you're using an unsupported OS (linux) which also has the wonderful nicities of netfilter and other technologies which can screw up a connection even though everything *seems* correct. Which is why we don't support you and we don't take your word for it unless you're using a windows box and we check the settings ourselves because, again, the last 500 people before you who claimed they were cluefull were dumb as posts and the issue was on their end.
And as for the 'support Linux' et al: I'm not asking you to support my damn box - I am more than happy to support my own box. But the ONLY 'my end' problems I've called tech support for since first getting DSL in '98 were flaky ISP provided modems that had to be power cycled after locking up mysteriously in the middle of the night.
As soon as you call you're asking us to support it whether you think you are or not. We have to troubleshoot unless we have extraordinary evidence to prove conclusively one finding, period. We don't know you, we don't know your abilities, we cannot take your word for it that your computer is setup properly because, again, the last 500 people who claimed they knew what they were doing really didn't.
Sure, it's really easy to say "listen to the customer!" but when you do you end up missing the simple issue of "is it plugged in?" because they said it was but they're experiencing a power outage and wondering why their computer wont turn on. Customers lie to us all the time, they mislead or give us wrong information because they don't know any better, or even worse they think they do.
Any tech agent worth anything learns to completely disregard 90% of what customers say and verify everything on his own. Sure, the
-- iCEBaLM
Arrogant pricks like you piss me off more than stupid people, and I do TS for a living.
You don't seem to realize that there is no way in hell we can guage your intelligence in a 10 minute phone call. No, saying you are a network administrator/engineer does not make us think any more of you because half the people who are calling us for tech support ARE network administrators who run Win2k networks and have no clue how to set user permissions!
I had a customer profess over and over that he was a cisco engineer, he made routers for a living and our network was down! Uninstalled and reinstalled his dialup networking in windows and look at that, back on the net...
If I had a nickle for every time I've told a customer that he would have to talk to his network admin to fix his network and then have them reply "I am the network admin" I would be a very rich man.
Also, if you're so intelligent why can't you understand that there is no way we can support Linux, *BSD, BeOS, QNX, etc? What part of "Windows and MacOS support only" don't you understand? A select few may be able to pull off Linux support but not every tech can and if we do it we set customer expectation that "well the LAST guy I spoke to helped me!" and start pissing more people off.
Your singular account is quite the exception and not the rule.
Now, I'm not a big fan of scripts and I don't use them myself, we don't generally have scripts where I work. But we do have a thing called support boundaries (only supporting what you make) which I follow almost to the letter because I understand the merits for both I and the customer, even though the customer may think less of me.
-- iCEBaLM
1. smaller dimension (anything bigger than my 270 will be junked, in fact, I wish it was 30% smaller)
2. better sound quality for the phone
3. longer battery life
Your first wish completely removes and is converse to the second and third.
You cannot have longer battery life if you make the battery smaller. Same with sound quality, to be better would require more space in the unit.
People want everything, it isn't going to happen. You cannot have it all right now, you have to pick pros/cons and compromise, especially when it comes to battery technology as it is right now and will be for the near future.
-- iCEBaLM
if he's an audiophile, he may have a predjustice against flatpanel speakers, as they are slightly "tinny" and you'd be better off getting him more "traditional" cone speakers.
These speakers have cones on the bottom with the flat panel portion at the top to create the best of both worlds. The imaging from these speakers is so immersing you would swear they were anything but flat.
-- iCEBaLM
I have a set of these flat panel Monsoon MH-505 5.1 speakers and they *rock*. They are also relatively cheap and should fit your budget nicely.
The sub is slightly underpowered for some but if you have a good soundcard (I use a Hercules Game Theater XP) you should be able to boost the sub channel. Also going against the installation guide and aiming the sub at a wall from about 1 ft distance works well.
I was a little skeptical about the flat panel speakers, however they not only look cool they produce amazing sound aswell. You have to play them for awhile to "break them in" until they sound their best.
You will need 3 sony minijack hookups from your soundcard to use them (front, surround and center/sub) so if you don't have those you will have to get additional hookups. My soundcard has RCA connectors for the center/sub so I had to get a sony minijack to RCA splitter.
Reviews are available: TechTV Amazon and more if you check Google.
-- iCEBaLM
Well, d'oh, you use a file system that supports simultaneous accesses, don't you?
Not by different *computers*. File storage tables are normally stored in memory by the OS because they're small and it speeds up disk access. It's a race condition. Suppose you have this wonderous hard drive attached to two computers - power both machines up at the same time, they both copy the file system data into memory and now they want to write... They both allocate the same disk blocks and start writing over eachother turning your data into nicely destroyed swiss cheese.
Why not use ethernet sharing? Because there's a single point of failure. Your drive is attached to a file server. Your file server is attached to your database servers. If your file server goes down, your database servers are cut off.
Or you could get a network access storage (NAS) appliance...
-- iCEBaLM
That's all I need, two computers with two different ideas of how the filesystem should look performaing simultaneous reads/writes on the same disk fubaring everything. Are you sure this is what you want? Why not just use simple ethernet sharing, NFS/Samba/whatever? I'm thinking it would be a lot more stable.
-- iCEBaLM
You're disqualified, they're not real computers, they're macs.
-- iCEBaLM
Horrible option because not only do you receive a slowdown from the added encapsulation - you break compatibility (MTU has to be less than 1456 or some such) but also from the PPPoE concentrator. It may not be geographically or networkingly(sp?) close to you so you add latency. Also if the concentrator is flakey, slow or goes down you receive more angry phone calls from customers whos connection just turned to shit.
-- iCEBaLM
Well I use the Royal Bank of Canada and American Express and they not only both work great with Mozilla but RBC has one of the best online banking sites I have ever used, it even accesses my other accounts from other banks and gives me everything on one page!
ING Direct on the other hand has one of the worst web pages I've ever seen or used. It's like it was done by a preschooler with big huge orange buttons and dumb phrases at the top. It works with all browsers though so I guess I shouldn't complain.
-- iCEBaLM
The issue you're having seems to be a language one as I believe english is your second (third, fourth?) language.
Wether you *should* be able to use the software for whatever means necessary is not an issue here. What is the issue is if you have the *right* to, and in the case of BitKeeper you do not.
Your ramblings make no sense.
-- iCEBaLM
And how is this relevant to BitKeeper seeing as it is NOT FREE SOFTWARE?
You don't seem to understand. This license effects users of software. It has nothing to do with developers. [...] Is the use of software now subject to a license?
It is you who does not understand. Yes the use of software is bound by a license. It's called the END USER LICENSE AGREEMENT which in the case of BitKeeper prevents any DEVELOPER from using BitKeeper if they work on a competator of BitKeeper.
Your opinion means nothing as you have no grasp of the legal system in place.
-- iCEBaLM
After checking out listen.com and the article the into is very deceptive. You can't just pop off $0.99 and download an mp3. You have to sign up for a $9.95 /mo plan and *use their "rhapsody" software* which looks to be windows only and *then* pay $0.99 on top of that for every track you want. Hardly worth it.
-- iCEBaLM
Or sue for punitive damages when it doesn't work?
This is why the tech bubble burst people! Bad business plans. Risking your entire business on the ranking your competitor gives your pages? What was this retard thinking?
1. Make search engine
2. Post ads for it on high google page ranked sites
3. ???
4. Profit!
-- iCEBaLM
But you forgot the very innovative Microsoft Bob!
-- iCEBaLM
To all you people saying the web is not a visual medium I have one word to say to you: bullshit.
It's as much a visual medium as books, pictures, newsprint and magazines. You don't see blind people suing Time Life because they can't read their rags.
Now people, quit using the horrible metaphors and analogies, they don't work and they're not necessary. Webmasters should *not* be forced to make their pages play nice with text to speech hacks in the same way book publishers are not forced to publish their books on audio CD/Cassette.
-- iCEBaLM