often times drugs and many other patentable "things" are invented by public funding and then practically given to corporations to then sell back to the people.
take for example taxol, a chemotheraputic for various forms of cancer. this drug was developed and validated using public funds in the terms of nci grants. then exclusive rights to produce this drug were given to bristol-myers. wtf? from what i've read several companies wanted to market it, so there was a market for it.
after giving this monopoly power to bristol-myers they proceeded to rape cancer patients financially. similar things have happened through out pharmaceutical industry. it's also happened to many other industries.
i agree completely with you. what file shareing has enabled me to do is find bands i would not hear on the more popular mediums: radio/tv. as a result most of the music i listen to comes from independent artists. while there are a few artists i like who are signed under an riaa label, most are not.
i've recently stopped purchasing music from artists signed under labels who are members of the riaa. at least i wont purchase them new. i have however purchased some used-do you have an opinion on this? i would also like to write some artists explaining my position to them. does anyone know where i can get addresses of different artists?
i now buy more music than i used to. i've been exposed to many more artists through mp3's. while i dont really use p2p networks (im a net news fan myself). there are entire genre's that i had never had a chance to listen to and never would have listened to if it hadnt been for p2p networks. i've also introduced many friends to music with my mp3's (i've converted/am converting my entire collection). they too have purchased cd's they never would have. simple (admittedly anecdotal) evidence.
while it would not be attainable if they did get slasdotted, this is not the case. this website is still very responsive hardly slashdotted.
you can chuck the post up to: i was unable to follow those deep (two deep) links. it was far too complicated for to read all the way to the second paragraph, where it points to the press release.
they are selling stuff on the p2p networks? i must admit that i have never used kaza, morphwhatever, etc, but the people i know who do have never mentioned paying for stuff. if people on the p2p networks are selling stuff, then sure the copyright holders should go after them.
i tried napster once, but never really liked it that much. i preferred to rip my own cd's since i could generally produce stuff with better quality.
i cannot remember where i read it but if you sign over your copyright to either the fsf or gnu they will defend such cases. i believe this is the case, but i cannot remember for sure.
I know it's posted anonymously, but this news release is important background that is not attainable through the links of the original post.
if by not attainable you mean that clicking on the link to xvid.org then clicking on the press releases in the files section is an impossible feat, then yes the information is not attainable throught the links in the original post. it is indeed a harsh reality.
how about the unattainable information in pdf format.
it can be easy to forget. since they were a business that depended on the software, they didnt have a problem with paying for the upgrades. they were actually pretty paranoid about it.
If a CD audio player can read the data on the CD by any means, a CD ripper can read the data the same way
actually when you listen to an audio cd on your computer the data is transferred through the audio cable. it's a 4 pin cable about 1/2 an inch wide. the rippers transfer data through the data cable. it's normally a 40 pin ide or 50 pin scsi data cable about 2 inches wide.
using the data cable allows for a bit for bit copy of the data. i dont believe you can get that out of the 4 pin audio cable. not that everyone would be able to notice the difference in the audio by using the two different methods, but they are not the same.
that reminds me..
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I swear, I don't know where they finds the folks who sign on to these deals. Have a problem with piracy? Make your product less attractive than the warez version by saddling it with a bunch of flakey 'copy protection' technology. That'll help your market share!
i had friends who used a program, 3d studio i believe, which used to rquire a hardware dongle. this wasnt really a problem, except they had about 2 or 3 other software packages which required the dongle. finally they started installing the warez versions-even though they had legally purchased the software. it was just easier to deal with the warez version than the big tumor of dongles hanging off the back of their computers.
when i get a new cd, the first thing i do is convert it to mp3. then i stick the original in a cd case never to be seen again. if i cannot do this, then i'm not going to purchase the cd. if i get a cd that doesn't allow me to do this, then i will return it.
if this happened to an artist that i really liked, i would probably send them a letter explaining my position. i would then tell them that i will not purchase the cd in question or any future cd's which have this type of protection.
if they dont listen, then they dont listen. the cd would end up on irc, p2p networks, netnews, etc. before it's even released. this type of alienation of their fans hardly seems worth it.
yeah the gnu.org link set me off too. the sad thing is how easy it is to confirm. it's not like an obscure reference with a link provided. it's really pathetic in a way.
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i can understand the funny mod. but the informative, et. al are a sad testament to our moderators.
But changes do happen, laws are passed, the truth comes out and it is made rather clear that such things should not happen again.
changes do indeed happen. look at the patriot act, where you can be held without a lawyer and tried under a military tribunal. rights? hell you dont have rights, you're a terrorist or have terrorist associations.
well now, i have friends from other countries. i gave them accounts on my computer. they use the accounts to do illegal things.. hell i just associated with a terrorist.
the patriot act redefined alot of terms which enables the government to easily extend the term terroist to someone using their free speech rights.
things are changing in china also. ask people who lived in shanghai 20 years ago what it's like now. they have kfc's and all sorts of happiness. actually china is getting better while the us is falling.
once again stop pretending how superior my government is. try getting information from alternative news sources. cnn is one of the greatest propaganda machines around.
in the end if you're dead, you're still dead. i personally would rather be shot in the head than die from a debilitating respiratory disease.
while the free speech thing works out well here eventually, resposible parties are still not held accountable. so...
in the us: govt kills people --> responsible parties go free
in china: govt kills people --> responsible parties go free
not to mention the people we kill in other countries trying to control foreign governments. hell we even put the taliban in power.
you should really stop pretending my government
respects human rights
cares about people
isnt run by corporations
is any better than that of china
when you start a business in china you give half of your profits to the government. when you start one here you do the same until you are making enough to buy off the government. at least in china they dont pretend to be free.
what i dont have: an audio cdrom player (discman, stereo deck)
what i do have: two cdrom drives and about 250 audio cds.
since i like to listen whats on the cds every once and a while. out of convenience i've ripped all the cds to mp3 so that i can listen to them no matter where i'm at. if i go to a friends house for a bit, i download some music from my computer at home. i normally purchase a cd, rip it and stick it in a box. i never see the cd again.
before i started doing this, my discs used to get really scrached up. partially my fault, but this method of storage really works well for me. i have everything catalogged in a database which can search through using boolean logic.
i personally would pay more for hardware for this purpose. hell i already pay (or rather payed) more because i wanted scsi drives so i can rip, write, and play quake at the same time:)
while i'm probably in the minority wrt the rest of the populatin, i am one who would pay more.
some things you might find interesting: 1953 - Joint Army-Navy-CIA experiments are conducted in which tens of thousands of people in New York and San Francisco are exposed to the airborne germs Serratia marcescens and Bacillus glogigii.
1966 - U.S. Army dispenses Bacillus subtilis variant niger throughout the New York City subway system. More than a million civilians are exposed when army scientists drop lightbulbs filled with the bacteria onto ventilation grates.
it's a good thing we have laws here protecting us from the government. you know a guy died from the airborne germs spread in san francisco. when his son tried to sue the government, the judge informed him that he couldn't do it.
back in 1998 i had just started grad school. i was looking for a hobby and decided that it would be fun to tinker with database driven web sites.
so i started looking around. i read about different programming languages and about rdbm's. not being too concerned with running applications in the console i decided to go with php (php didnt run in the console at the time) and mysql-on linux with apache of course. why? everything i ready said the combination was great. then i stumbled on a posting comparing postgresql to mysql.
the post basically said the same thing people are saying today. mysql lacks x, y, and z. postgresql has these things even though it might be a little slower. at the time i didnt understand what all of those features were, but i did understand a few of them. one of interest was transactions. i could see a definate use for them so i decided to go with postgresql. i've since switched to perl for cpan, and i havent been happier.
so what was this ramble all about? had mysql installed and was ready to go within about a day. i was ready to go with it when i read about postgres. it took me about 2 or 3 days to get postgres up and running. this is significant because i'm a chemical engineer. at the time i had only taken one class in computer programming - we used fortran.
i just dont see how hard this could be for someone who has been doing unix programming for many years. granted i dont know about your situation, and it may be that you were trying to get it working on an old irix box. if this or something similar is the case, i dont think you should really complain about postgres given the conditions.
it's never that simple:). i'm familar with (1), i'm just not familar with the eula shipped with the sdk. i wouldnt be surprised if there was something in the eula that conflicted with using the gpl. perhaps there isnt, i just wouldnt be suprised if there was.
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i'm not sure, but i dont think microsoft would agree to "sign" the linux "game". plus i think the licensing restrictions placed on it would make it violate the gpl/eula.
for example if i distribute the linux kernel for the xbox, i'm required by the gpl to provide the source. if the eula states that i cannot give up source related to the sdk, then i might not be able to give up the kernel source.
so i would have to violate either the eula or the gpl.
Slashdot Mirror
often times drugs and many other patentable "things" are invented by public funding and then practically given to corporations to then sell back to the people.
take for example taxol, a chemotheraputic for various forms of cancer. this drug was developed and validated using public funds in the terms of nci grants. then exclusive rights to produce this drug were given to bristol-myers. wtf? from what i've read several companies wanted to market it, so there was a market for it.
after giving this monopoly power to bristol-myers they proceeded to rape cancer patients financially. similar things have happened through out pharmaceutical industry. it's also happened to many other industries.
this is the best link i can find at the time
the other drug war
i would also hate to have to recoup the costs of a billion dollar investment. but not so much if it was the publics investment i was recouping.
i thought you ment IT administrator. it's really sad that the browser has so many holes you need an admin for it.
i guess i should provide more information :)
i agree completely with you. what file shareing has enabled me to do is find bands i would not hear on the more popular mediums: radio/tv. as a result most of the music i listen to comes from independent artists. while there are a few artists i like who are signed under an riaa label, most are not.
i've recently stopped purchasing music from artists signed under labels who are members of the riaa. at least i wont purchase them new. i have however purchased some used-do you have an opinion on this? i would also like to write some artists explaining my position to them. does anyone know where i can get addresses of different artists?
i now buy more music than i used to. i've been exposed to many more artists through mp3's. while i dont really use p2p networks (im a net news fan myself). there are entire genre's that i had never had a chance to listen to and never would have listened to if it hadnt been for p2p networks. i've also introduced many friends to music with my mp3's (i've converted/am converting my entire collection). they too have purchased cd's they never would have. simple (admittedly anecdotal) evidence.
while it would not be attainable if they did get slasdotted, this is not the case. this website is still very responsive hardly slashdotted.
you can chuck the post up to: i was unable to follow those deep (two deep) links. it was far too complicated for to read all the way to the second paragraph, where it points to the press release.
they are selling stuff on the p2p networks? i must admit that i have never used kaza, morphwhatever, etc, but the people i know who do have never mentioned paying for stuff. if people on the p2p networks are selling stuff, then sure the copyright holders should go after them.
i tried napster once, but never really liked it that much. i preferred to rip my own cd's since i could generally produce stuff with better quality.
i cannot remember where i read it but if you sign over your copyright to either the fsf or gnu they will defend such cases. i believe this is the case, but i cannot remember for sure.
I know it's posted anonymously, but this news release is important background that is not attainable through the links of the original post.
if by not attainable you mean that clicking on the link to xvid.org then clicking on the press releases in the files section is an impossible feat, then yes the information is not attainable throught the links in the original post. it is indeed a harsh reality.
how about the unattainable information in pdf format.
for more unattainable information i would goto this oracle of truth
it can be easy to forget. since they were a business that depended on the software, they didnt have a problem with paying for the upgrades. they were actually pretty paranoid about it.
If a CD audio player can read the data on the CD by any means, a CD ripper can read the data the same way
actually when you listen to an audio cd on your computer the data is transferred through the audio cable. it's a 4 pin cable about 1/2 an inch wide. the rippers transfer data through the data cable. it's normally a 40 pin ide or 50 pin scsi data cable about 2 inches wide.
using the data cable allows for a bit for bit copy of the data. i dont believe you can get that out of the 4 pin audio cable. not that everyone would be able to notice the difference in the audio by using the two different methods, but they are not the same.
I swear, I don't know where they finds the folks who sign on to these deals. Have a problem with piracy? Make your product less attractive than the warez version by saddling it with a bunch of flakey 'copy protection' technology. That'll help your market share!
i had friends who used a program, 3d studio i believe, which used to rquire a hardware dongle. this wasnt really a problem, except they had about 2 or 3 other software packages which required the dongle. finally they started installing the warez versions-even though they had legally purchased the software. it was just easier to deal with the warez version than the big tumor of dongles hanging off the back of their computers.
when i get a new cd, the first thing i do is convert it to mp3. then i stick the original in a cd case never to be seen again. if i cannot do this, then i'm not going to purchase the cd. if i get a cd that doesn't allow me to do this, then i will return it.
if this happened to an artist that i really liked, i would probably send them a letter explaining my position. i would then tell them that i will not purchase the cd in question or any future cd's which have this type of protection.
if they dont listen, then they dont listen. the cd would end up on irc, p2p networks, netnews, etc. before it's even released. this type of alienation of their fans hardly seems worth it.
yeah the gnu.org link set me off too. the sad thing is how easy it is to confirm. it's not like an obscure reference with a link provided. it's really pathetic in a way.
i can understand the funny mod. but the informative, et. al are a sad testament to our moderators.
But changes do happen, laws are passed, the truth comes out and it is made rather clear that such things should not happen again.
changes do indeed happen. look at the patriot act, where you can be held without a lawyer and tried under a military tribunal. rights? hell you dont have rights, you're a terrorist or have terrorist associations.
well now, i have friends from other countries. i gave them accounts on my computer. they use the accounts to do illegal things.. hell i just associated with a terrorist.
the patriot act redefined alot of terms which enables the government to easily extend the term terroist to someone using their free speech rights.
things are changing in china also. ask people who lived in shanghai 20 years ago what it's like now. they have kfc's and all sorts of happiness. actually china is getting better while the us is falling.
once again stop pretending how superior my government is. try getting information from alternative news sources. cnn is one of the greatest propaganda machines around.
while the free speech thing works out well here eventually, resposible parties are still not held accountable. so...
in the us: govt kills people --> responsible parties go free
in china: govt kills people --> responsible parties go free
not to mention the people we kill in other countries trying to control foreign governments. hell we even put the taliban in power.
you should really stop pretending my government
respects human rights
cares about people
isnt run by corporations
is any better than that of china
when you start a business in china you give half of your profits to the government. when you start one here you do the same until you are making enough to buy off the government. at least in china they dont pretend to be free.
what i dont have:
:)
an audio cdrom player (discman, stereo deck)
what i do have:
two cdrom drives and about 250 audio cds.
since i like to listen whats on the cds every once and a while. out of convenience i've ripped all the cds to mp3 so that i can listen to them no matter where i'm at. if i go to a friends house for a bit, i download some music from my computer at home. i normally purchase a cd, rip it and stick it in a box. i never see the cd again.
before i started doing this, my discs used to get really scrached up. partially my fault, but this method of storage really works well for me. i have everything catalogged in a database which can search through using boolean logic.
i personally would pay more for hardware for this purpose. hell i already pay (or rather payed) more because i wanted scsi drives so i can rip, write, and play quake at the same time
while i'm probably in the minority wrt the rest of the populatin, i am one who would pay more.
yeah that kind of thing wouldnt fly here...
some things you might find interesting:
1953 -
Joint Army-Navy-CIA experiments are conducted in which tens of thousands of people in New York and San Francisco are exposed to the airborne germs Serratia marcescens and Bacillus glogigii.
1966 -
U.S. Army dispenses Bacillus subtilis variant niger throughout the New York City subway system. More than a million civilians are exposed when army scientists drop lightbulbs filled with the bacteria onto ventilation grates.
it's a good thing we have laws here protecting us from the government. you know a guy died from the airborne germs spread in san francisco. when his son tried to sue the government, the judge informed him that he couldn't do it.
they would probably just tap his upstream provider (qwest) and the coop probably wouldn't have a clue.
dear lord people give this poor man a break.
here's a mirror of the faq. i hope it helps.
or use imagemagik:
$convert bob.ps bob.jpg
it comes with most distros.
back in 1998 i had just started grad school. i was looking for a hobby and decided that it would be fun to tinker with database driven web sites.
so i started looking around. i read about different programming languages and about rdbm's. not being too concerned with running applications in the console i decided to go with php (php didnt run in the console at the time) and mysql-on linux with apache of course. why? everything i ready said the combination was great. then i stumbled on a posting comparing postgresql to mysql.
the post basically said the same thing people are saying today. mysql lacks x, y, and z. postgresql has these things even though it might be a little slower. at the time i didnt understand what all of those features were, but i did understand a few of them. one of interest was transactions. i could see a definate use for them so i decided to go with postgresql. i've since switched to perl for cpan, and i havent been happier.
so what was this ramble all about? had mysql installed and was ready to go within about a day. i was ready to go with it when i read about postgres. it took me about 2 or 3 days to get postgres up and running. this is significant because i'm a chemical engineer. at the time i had only taken one class in computer programming - we used fortran.
i just dont see how hard this could be for someone who has been doing unix programming for many years. granted i dont know about your situation, and it may be that you were trying to get it working on an old irix box. if this or something similar is the case, i dont think you should really complain about postgres given the conditions.
yeah i prefer LAPP
:)
linux, apache, postgresql, and perl
but that's just me..
it's never that simple :). i'm familar with (1), i'm just not familar with the eula shipped with the sdk. i wouldnt be surprised if there was something in the eula that conflicted with using the gpl. perhaps there isnt, i just wouldnt be suprised if there was.
i'm not sure, but i dont think microsoft would agree to "sign" the linux "game". plus i think the licensing restrictions placed on it would make it violate the gpl/eula.
for example if i distribute the linux kernel for the xbox, i'm required by the gpl to provide the source. if the eula states that i cannot give up source related to the sdk, then i might not be able to give up the kernel source.
so i would have to violate either the eula or the gpl.