We should commit to actually developing a colony, rather than these expensive tech demonstrations. Treat it like the south pole stations. Send 50 people and a shitload of supplies and raw materials, and Good Luck.
Tom Smykowski: Well-well look. I already told you: I deal with the god damn customers so the engineers don't have to. I have people skills; I am good at dealing with people. Can't you understand that? What the hell is wrong with you people?
Since the Government Attorneys aren't going to hold AT&T responsible for their unlawful spying on every customer, with statutory penalties of $150,000/each, they have *plenty* of money, so shouldn't be crying poverty, should they?
The alternative is being held accountable, and liquidating AT&T to pay the damages, which would prove the point that *every* entity is held accountable TO THE LAW.
If Martha Stewart can go to prison for fibbing while NOT UNDER OATH, why the hell is AT&T getting a pass for it's crime?
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 17:43:58 -0400 From: vinton g. cerf To: Declan McCullaugh , farber@cis.upenn.edu Cc: rkahn@cnri.reston.va.us Subject: Al Gore and the Internet
Dave and Declan,
I am taking the liberty of sending to you both a brief summary of Al Gore's Internet involvement, prepared by Bob Kahn and me. As you know, there have been a seemingly unending series of jokes chiding the vice president for his assertion that he "took the initiative in creating the Internet."
Bob and I believe that the vice president deserves significant credit for his early recognition of the importance of what has become the Internet.
I thought you might find this short summary of sufficient interest to share it with Politech and the IP lists, respectively.
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Al Gore and the Internet
By Robert Kahn and Vinton Cerf Al Gore was the first political leader to recognize the importance of the Internet and to promote and support its development.
No one person or even small group of persons exclusively "invented" the Internet. It is the result of many years of ongoing collaboration among people in government and the university community. But as the two people who designed the basic architecture and the core protocols that make the Internet work, we would like to acknowledge VP Gore's contributions as a Congressman, Senator and as Vice President. No other elected official, to our knowledge, has made a greater contribution over a longer period of time.
Last year the Vice President made a straightforward statement on his role. He said: "During my service in the United States Congress I took the initiative in creating the Internet." We don't think, as some people have argued, that Gore intended to claim he "invented" the Internet. Moreover, there is no question in our minds that while serving as Senator, Gore's initiatives had a significant and beneficial effect on the still-evolving Internet. The fact of the matter is that Gore was talking about and promoting the Internet long before most people were listening. We feel it is timely to offer our perspective.
As far back as the 1970s Congressman Gore promoted the idea of high speed telecommunications as an engine for both economic growth and the improvement of our educational system. He was the first elected official to grasp the potential of computer communications to have a broader impact than just improving the conduct of science and scholarship. Though easily forgotten, now, at the time this was an unproven and controversial concept. Our work on the Internet started in 1973 and was based on even earlier work that took place in the mid-late 1960s. But the Internet, as we know it today, was not deployed until 1983. When the Internet was still in the early stages of its deployment, Congressman Gore provided intellectual leadership by helping create the vision of the potential benefits of high speed computing and communication. As an example, he sponsored hearings on how advanced technologies might be put to use in areas like coordinating the response of government agencies to natural disasters and other crises.
As a Senator in the 1980s Gore urged government agencies to consolidate what at the time were several dozen different and unconnected networks into an "Interagency Network." Working in a bi-partisan manner with officials in Ronald Reagan and George Bush's administrations, Gore secured the passage of the High Performance Computing and Communications Act in 1991. This "Gore Act" supported the National Research and Education Network (NREN) initiative that became one of the major vehicles for the spread of the Internet beyond the field of computer science.
As Vice President Gore promoted building the Internet both up and out, as well as releasing the Internet from the control of the government agencies that spawned it. He served as the major administr
Since Silverlight isn't cross platform, why bother?
Re:My FF3.0b5 on F9 doesn't have sound on youtube?
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That did it. FWIW, It wasn't a *clean* install of F9, so it's not unimaginable something got lost in the upgrade, but it still would have been nice if Anaconda had figured it out... ( or maybe it was the preupgrade-er-er...
My FF3.0b5 on F9 doesn't have sound on youtube???
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WTF?
It works when I fire off mplayer against a flv pulled down from youtube... But not from the browser?
DBA time ain't exactly cheap, and setting this all up, the needed SysAdmin time to get the firewall/proxy port issues worked out/certificates setup, etc...
Figure 40 hours of time for the DBA and 30 hours for the Sysadmin..
160 and 240 per sound good?
That's $ 13,500.00
You guys ain't planning on doing 10 grand worth of work for FREE, were you?
If some entity is going to claim property rights to something, and apparently the Government is going along, is this property entered on the tax rolls, and is the municipality collecting taxes on it?
until you can come up with a way--within the confines of AS/400 DB2 SQL--to do things like, "How does this field compare to the matching field in the record before it?" and quickly finding the most recently dated records with certain keys, it just won't be able to cut it. A-CSI-430 -- Database Management Systems
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You raise a scary scenario, one which I can unfortunately agree, is plausible and *may* come to pass.
You ever ship anything UPS? If it survive *them*, launching into orbit should be a no-brainer.
If you're talking about optimizing the process, it takes absolutely NO TIME to NOT check id cards.
I remember when the ID requirements were just to keep people from selling each other unused tickets on the cheap.
THAT may be the magic-bullet. If we can get this cast as a "Reality Show", then it's a no-brainer.
We should commit to actually developing a colony, rather than these expensive tech demonstrations. Treat it like the south pole stations. Send 50 people and a shitload of supplies and raw materials, and Good Luck.
And while we're at it, might as well wish for it to handle .cbr and .cbz files....
Tom Smykowski: Well-well look. I already told you: I deal with the god damn customers so the engineers don't have to. I have people skills; I am good at dealing with people. Can't you understand that? What the hell is wrong with you people?
Seriously?
Since the Government Attorneys aren't going to hold AT&T responsible for their unlawful spying on every customer, with statutory penalties of $150,000/each, they have *plenty* of money, so shouldn't be crying poverty, should they?
The alternative is being held accountable, and liquidating AT&T to pay the damages, which would prove the point that *every* entity is held accountable TO THE LAW.
If Martha Stewart can go to prison for fibbing while NOT UNDER OATH, why the hell is AT&T getting a pass for it's crime?
I went to Silverlight's site:
./Silverlight.exe ./Silverlight.exe: cannot execute binary file
http://www.microsoft.com/Silverlight/
Allowed the site in no-script.
Hit the "click to install" button.
And it downloaded a file called "silverlight.exe"
I clicked on it, and Firefox asked me to choose an application to open it.
I opened a terminal, and here's the results.
[mike@orion ~]$ l Silverlight.exe
-rw-rw-r-- 1 mike mike 1427520 2008-06-02 18:23 Silverlight.exe
[mike@orion ~]$ chmod 775 Silverlight.exe
[mike@orion ~]$
bash:
[mike@orion ~]$
[mike@orion ~]$
So, what's MSFT's point again?
Since Silverlight isn't cross platform, why bother?
Thanks!
That did it. FWIW, It wasn't a *clean* install of F9, so it's not unimaginable something got lost in the upgrade, but it still would have been nice if Anaconda had figured it out... ( or maybe it was the preupgrade-er-er...
WTF?
It works when I fire off mplayer against a flv pulled down from youtube... But not from the browser?
It's time to stop dicking around with the T-800's and time to send *real* geologists, hydrologists, and paleo-whatevers.
Updates?
Isn't qmail still at 1.03 or something?
Yeah, you *can* nuke the file by using the '>' operator rather than the proper one in the context, '>>'.
What's life without risk?
echo "badger, badger, badger, badger, snake" >> my_file
"Who's paying for this?"
DBA time ain't exactly cheap, and setting this all up, the needed SysAdmin time to get the firewall/proxy port issues worked out/certificates setup, etc...
Figure 40 hours of time for the DBA and 30 hours for the Sysadmin..
160 and 240 per sound good?
That's $ 13,500.00
You guys ain't planning on doing 10 grand worth of work for FREE, were you?
If embiggen is cromulent, embolden is too!
If some entity is going to claim property rights to something, and apparently the Government is going along, is this property entered on the tax rolls, and is the municipality collecting taxes on it?
Why the hell not?
Now that the RIAA has completely solved the problem, they can disband, comfortable in the knowledge they've done their part in this Grand Play.
I think it makes a world of difference in considering the "opportunity".
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