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NASA Offers $5000 a Month For You to Lie in Bed

tracer818 writes "In order to study a person as if they were in space without gravity, NASA scientists are paying subjects $17,000 to stay in bed for 90 straight days. The study will follow the Bed Rest Project standard model and be conducted at the University of Texas Medical Branch in Galveston, Texas. Participants will live in a special research unit for the entire study and be fed a carefully controlled diet."

239 comments

  1. I'm in. by Mattygfunk1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Can I bring a friend? In all seriousness, what if you need to rub one out?

    1. Re:I'm in. by Daengbo · · Score: 4, Funny

      Ninety days? I can do that standing on my head! Oh, wait ... I guess not.

    2. Re:I'm in. by jez9999 · · Score: 5, Funny

      what if you need to rub one out?

      Is that the latest 'hood slang for masturbation? Genuine question.

    3. Re:I'm in. by Slashdot+Suxxors · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yep.

    4. Re:I'm in. by maxume · · Score: 2, Informative

      I don't know if it is the latest. I heard it at least 5 years ago. It's been in the urban dictionary that long also:

      http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=rub+one+out

      I imagine that it was first said decades ago.

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    5. Re:I'm in. by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

      In all seriousness, what if you need to rub one out? Think about The Right Stuff.
    6. Re:I'm in. by genner · · Score: 2, Informative

      From the article. "It's unclear, however, whether you'll be allowed to read with a flashlight under the covers."

    7. Re:I'm in. by Mattygfunk1 · · Score: 5, Funny
      GEORGE: (Vowing) Well, I'll tell you this, though - I am never doing.. that , again.
      ELAINE: What, you mean, in your mother's house, or all together?
      GEORGE: (Definite) All together.
      (The next three lines are said at the exact same time)
      ELAINE: Oh, gimme a break..
      JERRY: (Skeptical) Ohhh yeah.. right.
      KRAMER: Oh, like you're gonna stop?
      JERRY AND ELAINE: C'mon..
      GEORGE: You don't think I can?
      JERRY: No chance.
      GEORGE: (Daring) You think you could?
      JERRY: Well, I know I could hold out longer than you.
      GEORGE: Care to make it interesting?
      JERRY: Sure, how much?
      GEORGE: A hundred dollars.
      JERRY: (Pointing) You're on.
      KRAMER: (Butting in) Wait a second, wait a second. Count me in on this. (Clicks his tongue)
      JERRY: You?
      KRAMER: Yeah.
      JERRY: You'll be out before we get the check.
      ELAINE: (Smiling) I want to be in on this, too.
      GEORGE AND JERRY: (Rejecting) Ohh, no. No, no, no..
      ELAINE: Why?
      JERRY: (Showing difference) It's apples and oranges..
      ELAINE: What? Why? (More 'no, no, no's from Jerry and George. Persistent) Why?
      JERRY: Because you're a woman!
      ELAINE: So what?
      JERRY: It's easier for a woman not to do it than a man.
      ELAINE: (Sarcastic) Oh.
      JERRY: We have to do it. It's part of our lifestyle. It's like, uh.. shaving.
      ELAINE: Oh, that is such bologna. I shave my legs.
      KRAMER: (Making a point) Not everyday.
      GEORGE: Alright, look, you want to be in?
      ELAINE: Yeah!
      GEORGE: You gotta give us odds. At least two to one - you gotta put up two-hundred dollars.
      KRAMER: No, a thousand!
      ELAINE: No, I'll - I'll put up one-fifty.
      GEORGE: Alright, you're in for one-fifty.
      JERRY: (Nodding) Okay, one-fifty.

    8. Re:I'm in. by Archimagus · · Score: 1

      Been using that one since I was a teen ager. So at least 10-15 years ago.

    9. Re:I'm in. by Carthag · · Score: 4, Informative

      I can't believe I researched this. It goes back at least 15 years. I tried searching in Google Books & IMDB quotes as well, but the only citations prior to 1993 were in different contexts.

      http://groups.google.com/group/alt.beer/browse_frm/thread/66eb379b321b2433/11e668a230018072?lnk=st&q=%22rub+one+out%22#11e668a230018072
      http://groups.google.com/group/alt.tasteless.jokes/browse_frm/thread/1299b8d6d59e0f1e/45022260920fd617?lnk=st&q=%22rub+one+out%22#45022260920fd617

    10. Re:I'm in. by electrictroy · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I have a feeling those 90 days would be really, really boring. They probably don't let you watch TV or surf the net or anything else interesting.

      Also, it would be a cut in pay for me.

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    11. Re:I'm in. by coren2000 · · Score: 5, Funny

      You think they are paying people just to watch them sleep? I assume that them watching you rub one out is part of the payment. I also assume they will stream the webcam watching you onto the internet to recoup their losses during these periods.

    12. Re:I'm in. by maxume · · Score: 1

      Meh, language is language.

      If it was posted to the internet in 1993, it seems pretty likely that it has been in use for quite a while at that point.

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    13. Re:I'm in. by Carthag · · Score: 1

      Ya. That's why I said "at least". It wouldn't surprise me if it was earlier, just couldn't find any evidence of it.

    14. Re:I'm in. by cthulu_mt · · Score: 2, Funny

      Close your eyes and think of England.

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    15. Re:I'm in. by Ulrich_Skarsol · · Score: 1

      Wouldn't it be The White Stuff?

    16. Re:I'm in. by penguin_dance · · Score: 1

      Close your eyes and think of England.

      Better yet think of (Robert) Englund

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    17. Re:I'm in. by LakeSolon · · Score: 1

      I don't know what's worse: That I was going to reply with a link to the Gone in 60 Seconds Quote that uses the phrase, or that someone had already outdone me.

    18. Re:I'm in. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why do you think about the white stuff when you're rubbing one out. That's the result, not what you should be thinking about...

    19. Re:I'm in. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Great, now I've got Wierd Al stuck in my head...

    20. Re:I'm in. by tsjaikdus · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Is this inclusive or exclusive removing the blood clots after those 90 days?

    21. Re:I'm in. by neight108 · · Score: 1

      I heard indirectly from an old NASA researcher that they give you anything you want, such as video games and TV

    22. Re:I'm in. by UncleTogie · · Score: 1

      "Tapping the tapioca tube"
      "Self-whittling"
      or my personal fave: "Launching the Hand Shuttle"

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    23. Re:I'm in. by electrictroy · · Score: 3, Funny

      "spank the monkey" was popular when I was in college. I remember a friend of mine used that phrase as slang for "not doing anything" or "killing time". ME: "What are you doing after supper Jack?" "Oh just spanking the monkey."

      That worked well between us guys, but one day he said it to a girl:

      "What did you do this weekend Jack?"
      "Oh nothing much Jill, just spanking the monkey."
      (Jill blinks) : "What did you say?" ....

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    24. Re:I'm in. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also, it would be a cut in pay for me.
      Yes, but you don't get to spend a single buck on anything, for three months!!! Pure savings.
    25. Re:I'm in. by cleatsupkeep · · Score: 1

      Who knows, maybe you'd get broadband so you get your Doctor Who faster.

    26. Re:I'm in. by somersault · · Score: 2, Funny

      If it was posted to the internet in 1993, it seems pretty likely that it has been in use for quite a while at that point. Kinda like how I always used to say "lol space colon close parenthesis!" whenever I was amused in the 80s. Though this is slightly different I'll admit.
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    27. Re:I'm in. by somersault · · Score: 2, Funny

      Keep your eyes on the prize, man

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    28. Re:I'm in. by GospelHead821 · · Score: 1

      Pure savings, except for the percentage that Uncle Sam claims next April. Nobody expects the American Inquisition!

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    29. Re:I'm in. by operagost · · Score: 1

      "Shake hands with Ben Franklin" sounds more like you're coming into money. Oh, wait...

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    30. Re:I'm in. by MeBadMagic · · Score: 2, Funny

      O.K. Can't help it.

      Best description of the organ?
      Tapioca Sprinkler

      Best I heard for "rubbing one out"?
      At a post golf tournament debriefing (read: bar), there was an awful cute waitress, and the guy next to me said, "Man, that is enough to make me want to go home and whip out a batch of knuckle babies!".

      I couldn't stop laughing for minutes!

        B-)

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    31. Re:I'm in. by aliquis · · Score: 1

      I like "wax ones dolphin" better:
      http://www.dannychoo.com/adp/eng/1412/Flip+Hole.html

    32. Re:I'm in. by CrazedWalrus · · Score: 1

      You want me to think of England? Ew. I never was into S&M...

    33. Re:I'm in. by stonedcat · · Score: 0

      The way this season has been I'm fine with getting it the day after it airs. No seriously someone needs to shoot that bitch in his company...

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    34. Re:I'm in. by maxume · · Score: 1

      Slightly?

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    35. Re:I'm in. by maxume · · Score: 1

      "Wax the Buick" sticks you no later than 1998:

      http://groups.google.com/group/alt.radio.talk.dr-laura/browse_frm/thread/ab112de73338da18/43d9ad600053fef8?lnk=st&q=%22Wax+the+Buick%22#43d9ad600053fef8

      There are variants of "Shake hands..." and "Grease the..." in there also. Everything new is old again.

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    36. Re:I'm in. by Demolition · · Score: 1

      Around here, "spank the monkey" referred exclusively to masturbation. The slang for filling idle time was "fuck the dog".
      For example:

      Bob: "We didn't do anything this weekend. How about you?"
      Jim: "Yeah, we just fucked the dog."

    37. Re:I'm in. by Repton · · Score: 1

      Wiki has list. But it's disappointingly short (even if you go to the creative extras list). Perhaps you could devote some of your spare time to updating it!

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    38. Re:I'm in. by Daengbo · · Score: 1

      The "standing on my head" part was a joke, see? If I were to stand on my head, I wouldn't be lying down and wouldn't get paid, see? I couldn't do ninety days standing on my head, see?

    39. Re:I'm in. by somersault · · Score: 1

      *cough* ._. it made sense at the time. I blame the coffee

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    40. Re:I'm in. by Wo1ke · · Score: 1

      How did it end?

    41. Re:I'm in. by GodfatherofSoul · · Score: 1

      My all-time favorite euphemism courtesy of Beavis and Butthead; corralling the tadpoles.

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    42. Re:I'm in. by ohmpossum · · Score: 1

      Did Jack and Jill go up the hill after that?

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    43. Re:I'm in. by Vornan19 · · Score: 0

      How about: Choke the chicken, Hannah and her five sisters, Rosy Palmer, or the five knuckle shuffle.

  2. I lie in bed all the time by dotancohen · · Score: 5, Funny

    I lie in bed all the time:
    "Yes, I love you"
    "Yes, it was good"
    "No, I was not thinking about _her_"

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    1. Re:I lie in bed all the time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I'll leave the money on the nightstand."

    2. Re:I lie in bed all the time by DreamingReal · · Score: 5, Funny

      You bring new meaning to the phrase "Talk to the hand".

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    3. Re:I lie in bed all the time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I figured out why being paid to lie is such big news on Slashdot - because to liberals it's basically an announcement that they can be paid to breathe.

    4. Re:I lie in bed all the time by dotancohen · · Score: 2, Funny

      I figured out why being paid to lie is such big news on Slashdot - because to liberals it's basically an announcement that they can be paid to breathe. I'm certain that there are those who would pay the liberals _not_ to breathe.
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  3. Details by abscissa · · Score: 5, Funny

    Is there a retroactive program?

    1. Re:Details by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am sure they are not giving this offer to women.

    2. Re:Details by aplusjimages · · Score: 1

      The picture on the site shows two women doing it.

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    3. Re:Details by hostyle · · Score: 0

      Lesbian research too? How much will they pay to do that ?

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    4. Re:Details by Mr.+Beatdown · · Score: 1

      The picture on the site shows two women doing it. SIGN ME UIP!!1!!1! eleven!
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  4. I know some people by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    who would love this since they do that anyway. They just lay in bed playing WoW. Now they could actually earn real money.

  5. Depends on who's sleeping with me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Forget the carefully controlled diet. There are other interesting things to do on a bed than eating and sleeping :-) Specially under zero gravity!!!

    1. Re:Depends on who's sleeping with me... by Nullav · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Who would want to lay next to someone for three months? Tolerating one's own smell would be enough of a problem at that point.

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    2. Re:Depends on who's sleeping with me... by aplusjimages · · Score: 1

      So there won't be showers? I understand they are trying to see what happens in space, but at least let them shower.

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    3. Re:Depends on who's sleeping with me... by Sideonecincy · · Score: 1

      I believe in the article it states there is a small amount of time that is allowed out of bed. I imagine this time would be designated for hygiene.

      I wonder if they allow you to at least take a bag in there. Pop sleeping pills and sleep for 16 hours a day. Also, they would have to be very specific on the model of the bed I would be sleeping in. A motorized bed would be required to keep me entertained until the motor burns out.

  6. What's that movie? by QuantumG · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The one with Martin Sheen in it and they keep sending the soldiers into nuclear fallout to test whether or not they can advance to ground zero.. oh yeah, that's right Nightbreaker. How many times exactly does NASA need to study the effect of weightlessness? It's bad, ok? Long term exposure to "micro-gravity" causes not too nice symptoms. Great, move on. NASA never seems to approach anything as a problem that needs to be overcome - or at least they haven't since the '60s. Problem: without some form of gravity, long term space flight is bad for humans. Solution: provide some form of gravity. There's two that readily come to mind; either accelerate the vehicle at 9.8m/s/s or make the vehicle big enough so that you can spin it and not get dizzy. The first uses up way too much energy and just isn't an option at the moment. The second is so damn obvious that Von Braun was talking about it in the '40s. But it has never been done.

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    1. Re:What's that movie? by BadAnalogyGuy · · Score: 5, Funny

      Look, you know and I know that NASA has probably got better things to do than pay some labrats to learn how to eat, piss, and shit sitting down. The effects are, as you say, well known and obvious to anyone who has ever studied space travel and microgravity environments. Muscular atrophy, loss of balance, and other problems are well known.

      But the department needs to spend its budget or else face cuts next year. With Obama already looking for ways to divert NASA funds into edumacation, the need is dire and if NASA engineers and scientists can't be busy, at least they can look busy.

      I get paid a lot of money to do what I do. But sometimes I just sit around and stare at the monitor and space out. In order to not look like I'm wasting time, I run a Perl script in a command window that prints the text of random files on the filesystem until I stop it. It makes me look like I'm waiting for a compile to finish, and that's enough to keep me in the green.

    2. Re:What's that movie? by MichaelSmith · · Score: 4, Interesting

      make the vehicle big enough so that you can spin it and not get dizzy. [..] so damn obvious that Von Braun was talking about it in the '40s. But it has never been done. Actually something like that was done on skylab. You don't need to spin the spacecraft. You just need a cylindrical track which you can run around. It works very well.
    3. Re:What's that movie? by BadAnalogyGuy · · Score: 5, Informative

      Actually, on a more serious note, I saw something like this on Discovery (or NatGeo, I can't remember). The purpose of the study wasn't just to observe patients suffering from bed sores and blood clots. They were subjected to 2 minute exercise regimens every day which were designed to keep them in good physical health even though the rest of the day they were bedridden. The goal was to create exercise devices that could be used quickly and simply without the need for gravity that would provide enough exercise to replace the amount we normally perform here on Earth.

      It looked pretty grueling, even if only for 2 minutes a day.

    4. Re:What's that movie? by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

      In order to not look like I'm wasting time, I run a Perl script in a command window that prints the text of random files on the filesystem until I stop it. It makes me look like I'm waiting for a compile to finish, and that's enough to keep me in the green. Do you mean your files, or just any files? The latter sounds very educational, like picking up other peoples stuff from the printer and reading old layers on the meeting room whiteboard.
    5. Re:What's that movie? by Tom · · Score: 1

      The second is so damn obvious that Von Braun was talking about it in the '40s. But it has never been done. Which might be a good sign that while it's obvious, it may not be quite as easy to actually do it. You already mentioned the first problem: Size. "Just make it big enough" isn't a very good answer when you realize that the ISS has a "living volume" of about 425 m^3 - that's a large appartment, no a spaceship like you see in the movies.
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    6. Re:What's that movie? by MichaelSmith · · Score: 2, Interesting

      TYou already mentioned the first problem: Size. "Just make it big enough" isn't a very good answer when you realize that the ISS has a "living volume" of about 425 m^3 - that's a large appartment, no a spaceship like you see in the movies. This was proposed for the Apollo LM and CM. Run a tether between them and use the RCS to spin them up. The LM (being lighter) gets 1G and the CM gets 1/4 G.

      You don't need to build a huge space station.
    7. Re:What's that movie? by MBGMorden · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I also saw the tether idea proposed in one of the brainstorms for a Mars mission. The travel vehicle and the supplies that would be used while actually on Mars would be in seperate containers, and they'd be tethered together by a long retractable cable. They'd essentially rotate around the common center of gravity (somewhere near the middle of the tether) and that would be what moved towards Mars.

      Seemed very interesting. Everything was still small, and it would provide approximately Earth-level gravity if the spin was the right speed. Truthfully though, it seems like such a thing would work best for long duration non-stop journeys like a Mars mission. On a Lunar mission it's not long enough to really need it. On space stations, it seems like docking with a spinning module on the end of a tether would be nearly impossible, so they'd have to spin it down and then back up between dockings, which would be very energy intensive.

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    8. Re:What's that movie? by Overzeetop · · Score: 1

      The difficulty isn't in creating the forces, it's in making the forces uniform enough that people don't get dizzy. Humans can detect (and are disoriented) by very small variations in gravity. I can't remember the article, but there was one on it in something from the 80s which indicated the minimum size of such a "space station", and it was definitely non-trivial.

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    9. Re:What's that movie? by SomeoneGotMyNick · · Score: 1

      I run a Perl script in a command window that prints the text of random files on the filesystem until I stop it. It makes me look like I'm waiting for a compile to finish, and that's enough to keep me in the green. But I program ASP.NET apps, you insensitive clod!!!!

      How can I simulate the endless compiling of programs in my environment, and look busy doing it?
    10. Re:What's that movie? by BadAnalogyGuy · · Score: 2, Funny

      I program ASP.NET apps, you insensitive clod!!!!

      How can I simulate the endless compiling of programs in my environment, and look busy doing it?


      Serious answer. Look into the Visual Studio macro system.

      Holy shit, it's like Microsoft's own engineers built it into the product just to give loafers a means to look busy while actually wasting tons of time.

    11. Re:What's that movie? by corbettw · · Score: 2, Insightful

      But the department needs to spend its budget or else face cuts next year. That's understandable, but aren't there other things they can spend tax payers' money on?
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    12. Re:What's that movie? by Prof.Phreak · · Score: 1

      ...I run a Perl script in a command window that prints the text of random files on the filesystem until I stop it. It makes me look like I'm waiting for a compile to finish,

      Why not just do: while true; do make clean; make; done :-)

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    13. Re:What's that movie? by moosesocks · · Score: 1

      Just a thought: Position yourself near the centre of rotation, match the speed of rotation, grab on, and "crawl" up the tether.

      You'd have to provide barf bags, though it does seem hypothetically possible.

      Alternatively, the rotation could simply be suspended during docking. It'd be energy-intensive to break and restart, but not out of the question....

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    14. Re:What's that movie? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Duh. So that the data is constantly changing.

    15. Re:What's that movie? by mindlar · · Score: 1

      NASA has been doing this program for at least a few years now. When I was working at JPL, some of the guys from Ames were helping out a group at JSC with the scheduling problems of what to do with the current set of participants. AFAIRC the participants were doing exercise, tests, etc. so it wasn't just lying in bed all day long. I believe that they had computers/books that they could use to kill the time between activities.

    16. Re:What's that movie? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Nice idea! They should put it in a movie too.

    17. Re:What's that movie? by nbritton · · Score: 1

      Why don't you compile something for real, say KDE or OpenOffice... Just run it at "nice -n 20".

    18. Re:What's that movie? by TheLink · · Score: 3, Funny

      He could also try gentoo. Then he would often genuinely be waiting for a compile to finish.

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    19. Re:What's that movie? by bughunter · · Score: 1
      Actually, that would be crawling "down" the tether.

      And, due to conservation of angular momentum, your descent would slow the rotation of the station, to a degree directly proportional to your percentage of the total mass of the system. And if this percentage were too large, then you'd also have to send mass down the other side to keep the center of rotation of the combined system a practical distance from your end.

      Not as easy as it looks, but still probably easier than building a Stanford Torus.

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    20. Re:What's that movie? by TheLink · · Score: 1

      "it seems like docking with a spinning module on the end of a tether would be nearly impossible"

      So have a docking module attached to the tether and movable along the tether.

      Then you can move the people/cargo from the docking module to the ends when it is convenient.

      The trouble is NASA spends tons of money on stupid "mission to mars/moon" bullshit.

      Just fix this "zero G" problem already ok?

      Once you fix that then you can figure out how to shield people from radiation. Water can help since you'll be needing it for lots of other reasons e.g. human consumption, hydrogen, oxygen.

      Then you can take your sweet time to get to mars or wherever without dying.

      If people want a mission to mars maybe they should send the NASA bosses and a few choice politicians on that mission to mars, one way. That would be a good use of taxpayer money.

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    21. Re:What's that movie? by niteice · · Score: 1

      Holy shit, it's like Microsoft's own engineers built it into the product just to give loafers a means to look busy while actually wasting tons of time.
      Company policy is to use their own products as soon as they're somewhat production ready. Wonder why it seems to take so long to release... :)
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    22. Re:What's that movie? by Kashgarinn · · Score: 1

      There's one thing which I've never seen people think about, and that's the center of gravity when dealing with fake-gravity-via-rotation.

      Let's say you have a cylinder-shape, and it's rotating with people floating inside in no gravity.. one of them decides to step onto the rotating cylinder and get the effects of gravity. The person exerts equal amount of force against the cylinder as the cylinder exerts on him, and as the cylinder is free-floating, the center of gravity has now changed to include the cylinder, and the person, and the whole thing would get out of control.

      fake gravity isn't possible as most people would like it to act, it could only be used in a very controlled way for astronauts to exercise in a limited fashion.

      Of course, if Nasa has already thought of this and come up with a solution, please let me know, I'd be interested in the solution.

    23. Re:What's that movie? by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

      The way you put it, with relatively massive people inside a low mass rotating body, it is definitely unstable.

      If your cylinder has a lot of mass then the moving objects inside it will not affect it to a great degree.

      Alternatively you could use a tether to construct a very large spacecraft. If you are on a long cruise to (say) Mars you could separate two parts of the spacecraft and string a tether between them. Then spin both components against each other.

      The module with the people inside isn't going to change its mass when the people move around. It will be very stable.

    24. Re:What's that movie? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then, when you get bored, you crank in the tether...

      spin
      spin
      spin
      SPIN
      SPIN
      SPIN
      Whir
      WHIRRR
      WWHIRRRR
      (Tether snaps)
      AAaAAAaaaauauuuuuuuuggggggghhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!

  7. Sounds easy.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sounds easy, but I wouldn't want to do it. At first, of course the offer to get paid to sleep sounds great, but 90 days of being constantly watched and fed a carefully planned diet?! I would go crazy.

    1. Re:Sounds easy.... by somersault · · Score: 1

      Not to mention the nasty bedsores..

      --
      which is totally what she said
  8. Great by Mgns · · Score: 1

    Who knew you could get 17K just for destroying your back.

  9. 2001: A Space Odyssey by Airw0lf · · Score: 5, Funny

    Is it just me or did anyone else imagine a test subject waking up one day to see a big black monolith standing at the foot of his bed?

    1. Re:2001: A Space Odyssey by JustOK · · Score: 1

      Not me. I imagined the person waking to find an autonomous bolo

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    2. Re:2001: A Space Odyssey by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Peppermint or spearmint?

    3. Re:2001: A Space Odyssey by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

      Is it just me or did anyone else imagine a test subject waking up one day to see a big black monolith standing at the foot of his bed? Actually I imagined being switched off during the night by a computer being fed conflicting requirements.
    4. Re:2001: A Space Odyssey by somersault · · Score: 1

      Coding the AI for that thing must be fun:

      with AutonomousBolo do
      begin
            Job := GetNextJob();
      end;

      // I have achieved the holy grail! Bow in awe!
      AutonomousBolo.Job.Go(Self);

      --
      which is totally what she said
    5. Re:2001: A Space Odyssey by AdamReyher · · Score: 1

      Actually, I was more thinking about hearing: "Hello, and, again, welcome to the Aperture Science computer aided enrichment center." - Adam

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  10. Bedpan or Catheter? by mikelieman · · Score: 4, Funny

    I think it makes a world of difference in considering the "opportunity".

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    1. Re:Bedpan or Catheter? by maxume · · Score: 1

      I imagine you might get to choose how you pee, but you aren't going to poop into a catheter.

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    2. Re:Bedpan or Catheter? by BadAnalogyGuy · · Score: 3, Funny

      you aren't going to poop into a catheter.

      I think I saw that movie on the web.

    3. Re:Bedpan or Catheter? by Farmer+Tim · · Score: 1

      Why isn't there a "-1, Ewww" mod?

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    4. Re:Bedpan or Catheter? by deander2 · · Score: 1

      hey, don't knock it. those catheter's are convenient. (of course, i was unconscious when it was put in... *that* might be the true deciding factor ;)

    5. Re:Bedpan or Catheter? by maxume · · Score: 1

      When I was recovering from minor surgery(relatively, they still cut a hole in my abdomen), the nurse said something like "If you don't pee soon we are going to have to use a catheter". I stood up and peed. Just a little, but damn it, I peed.

      Maybe being 15 had something to do with it, but the idea of a catheter seemed really really bad.

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      Nerd rage is the funniest rage.
    6. Re:Bedpan or Catheter? by deander2 · · Score: 1

      i just woke up w/ one after a car accident when i was 16. standing up wasn't anywhere near an option. =P

      but to their credit, they're fine once they're in. the removal felt weird, but wasn't painful.

    7. Re:Bedpan or Catheter? by maxume · · Score: 1

      I think, as you have alluded to, that the putting of it in was the primary concern.

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  11. ESA Has Done Studies Long Ago by eldavojohn · · Score: 4, Informative
    The US is very badly lagging in the international bed rest race! I thought I read somewhere about the ESA doing this two years ago for female astronauts at least. There's some interesting comments on their WISE page such as:

    All volunteers were surprised how fast the time passed by. I'll bet that month you spend in bed is completely lost with little or no memories for it.

    And if you really want to know more, they published all their findings for all their experiments in five hefty PDFs.
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    1. Re:ESA Has Done Studies Long Ago by somersault · · Score: 2, Funny

      Well, you could read a few books, or have a HDTV (for movies/games) in the ceiling above you :) I've been tempted before to just get a TV mounted above my bed but the outcomes of such a thing could be disastrous..! If I get paid to do it on the other hand.. where do I sign up? :)

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      which is totally what she said
    2. Re:ESA Has Done Studies Long Ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We cannot allow a bed rest gap!

    3. Re:ESA Has Done Studies Long Ago by Timothy+Chu · · Score: 1

      Here's a writeup of somebody who took part in a prior NASA study:

      http://www.mcsweeneys.net/links/bed/

      A pretty interesting read.

  12. Federal Government by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why spend money on this research, just test federal employees, it's about the same.

  13. To do today: by bryanp · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Things to do today:

    Find out if NASA will let me have a laptop in that bed.
    Find out if my boss will let me telecommute for the next 90 days.

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    1. Re:To do today: by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Add:

      Invent cure for deep vein thrombosis.

    2. Re:To do today: by maxume · · Score: 1

      Hopefully they eject people from the study as they start to develop such conditions(or become at risk for developing them, etc).

      --
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    3. Re:To do today: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      Can I farm wow gold in said bed? I can put the chinese to shame if I can lay in bed all day and play wow.

  14. And then...? by snarfies · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Will they also pay to rehabilitate you and your degenerated muscles afterwards?

    1. Re:And then...? by techpawn · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That was my first thought. Then there's the worry of blood clots and bed sores. Being bed bound is not as fun as people think and only for 17K? Your medical bills will be higher to fix all this messes up.

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    2. Re:And then...? by Liath · · Score: 0

      muscles?

      *examines the current trolls* I don't think we're going to have a problem!

    3. Re:And then...? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2, Informative

      Bed sores, or decubitus ulcers, are most often caused when the person laying down either cannot move around readily to relieve the pressure of laying in one place or cannot feel the discomfort caused from laying in one place.

      If you use some isometric exercises, you could minimize the damage of the time in bed.

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    4. Re:And then...? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also consider it only works out to about $7.80 per hour. That's about 16k/yr at a regular job.

      That's pretty shitty pay for possibly damaging your health.

    5. Re:And then...? by Crazyswedishguy · · Score: 1

      I don't know many regular jobs that pay you while you're sleeping. But it's true that removing 8 hours of sleep (so 16h workdays), you still only get about $11.80 per hour.

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    6. Re:And then...? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I stay in bed the whole day and I don't have bed sores.
      Actually my workspace is my chest, where I lay my laptop to work.
      I just walk when it is very needed, like for example, when I have to go to the bathroom or answer the Pizza delivery guy by my front door.
      I been doing that for 1 year or so, and I am ok. Just a bit fatter but alright.

    7. Re:And then...? by SirGarlon · · Score: 1

      Good point. This basically amounts to destructive testing on human beings. When the Nazis did that to prisoners, it was an atrocity. When our government does it to volunteers, that's somehow OK?

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    8. Re:And then...? by Mr.+Beatdown · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure, but it might be considered a substantive difference, as far as medical ethics go, that this study uses volunteers and keeps them alive and the other used prisoners and killed them.

      Nice Godwin, BTW.

      --
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    9. Re:And then...? by OldeTimeGeek · · Score: 1
      As long as the participants are made fully aware of the risks, absolutely.

      Of course this is the same government that gave soldiers a front-row center view to atomic bomb explosions, isn't it?

    10. Re:And then...? by SirGarlon · · Score: 1

      I think the point of doing a medical study is that they (NASA) don't know what the risks are. And I do like your reference to the atomic-bomb testing; it's more appropriate than my over-the-top Nazi rhetoric. There remains a difference, as you say: the atomic-bomb soldiers weren't volunteers... If NASA has done up-front a comprehensive risk analysis based on what happens to patients who are bedridden for long periods due to other causes (hospitals do know a thing or two about that) then maybe it's OK. Did they do that, though?

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    11. Re:And then...? by Criton · · Score: 1

      True I was thinking the same thing you would get bed sores and the rehabilitation would be an issue. I also don't think it would produce accurate data since zero g would not cause bed sores.

  15. may be more difficult than some may imagine by v1 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I know I cannot lay on my back or side for that matter for too much time. More than 6 hrs on my back and my back starts hurting. More than 3 hrs on a side and my shoulder starts aching, so I have to change position at least once a night. I would expect for most, after about two straight weeks things would start getting torturous as there would be no side you wanted to lay on anymore.

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    1. Re:may be more difficult than some may imagine by BlackSabbath · · Score: 1

      I'm wondering how they'll keep the subjects from developing horrific bed sores (if you have the stomach check out http://images.google.com.au/images?q=bed+sores for just how bad they can get).

      $5K/month is not worth it.

    2. Re:may be more difficult than some may imagine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      sounds like you have a lot of prior lieng down experience!!

    3. Re:may be more difficult than some may imagine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Get a new bed. Seriously.

      Up until I moved to a new country (leaving my old bed behind) I had never had any back problems or pain or stiffness.

      Upon renting a furnished apartment with a god-awful, overly firm bed, I have had constant pain and stiffness just like you describe.

      I'm already hunting for a replacement mattress that is closer to the one I was used to - if you try a new mattress you may get sudden relief :)
      (Oh, and apparently doing core exercises to strengthen your abdominals and lower back muscles can help as well).

    4. Re:may be more difficult than some may imagine by Walenzack · · Score: 1

      Trust me, it's not THAT difficult. Just fall from a tree, like I did. I *almost* broke my back and had to stay in bed, face up, for a whole 7 weeks (that's 50 days). So yeah, I can tell I already did this. For free.

      Would I do it again for a mere 17.000$ ? HELL NO. Not in a million years. But if you want, go ahead!

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    5. Re:may be more difficult than some may imagine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But you wouldn't have the same problems in zero G! Having said that, I don't get their experiment at all.

  16. Learned To Do that in College by curmudgeon99 · · Score: 2, Funny

    NASA wants me to lie in bed? I learned to do that in college: "Yes, I'll love you tomorrow." / "No, there are no other girls in my life but you..." / "Of course I'll respect you tomorrow..."

    1. Re:Learned To Do that in College by BadAnalogyGuy · · Score: 5, Funny

      You can lie all you want, I'm pretty sure Rosey knows you're seeing other hands.

    2. Re:Learned To Do that in College by SoulRider · · Score: 1

      Unless this guy is a complete idiot I would assume Rosie knows about Louise.

    3. Re:Learned To Do that in College by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LOL mod parent up as funny

  17. Not worth it by bkr1_2k · · Score: 1

    This is just not worth the money. It may be good for someone who pretty much sits around doing nothing but watching tv all day anyway (if there is such a person) but for anyone who actually enjoys life this will be a miserable experience.

    Misery deserves far more compensation than 17K.

    --
    "Growing old is inevitable; growing up is optional."
  18. Fine print by junglee_iitk · · Score: 0

    They are offering $5000 to have sex with them and have it recorded.

    1. Re:Fine print by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      $5000? I heard that the going price was $4300. source: client 9

  19. And probably prepare to see some syringes more... by D4C5CE · · Score: 1

    take a blood test
    I doubt the appropriate figure isn't closer to "one each of the 2,160 hours"... and the bed & lab presumably won't be quite as comfy as shown in TFA.
  20. A few questions first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1) Must I shit on myself?

    2) Can I play Quake?

    1. Re:A few questions first by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      I was just thinking that there are a certain number of Slashdot readers who probably clicked on this story faster than any other in /. history.

      In fact even though I am generally considered to be an active (and virile) man by most people who are not my wife, I am somewhat surprised by how quickly I wanted to find out about making five grand from laying in bed.

      --
      You are welcome on my lawn.
  21. Alone? by FurtiveGlancer · · Score: 1

    Definitely not worth it!

    --
    Invenio via vel creo
    1. Re:Alone? by somersault · · Score: 1

      I dunno, it's slightly more than I'm earning at the moment, and getting up in the mornings is the hardest part of my day.. most of my friends are students and gone over the summer anyway.. this sounds like a good plan!

      --
      which is totally what she said
    2. Re:Alone? by trolltalk.com · · Score: 1

      I dunno, it's slightly more than I'm earning at the moment, and getting up in the mornings is the hardest part of my day.

      If you think getting up is the hardest part of your day NOW, just wait until you've been bedridden for 3 months.

  22. Well, can I get paid beforehand... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... and in euros, please?

  23. Damn ripoff by Zorbo88 · · Score: 0, Redundant

    This is bogus. I did that six months ago and nobody paid me $17,000.

  24. I am the perfect candidate by Timberwolf0122 · · Score: 1

    I wont get out of bed for less than $20,000 so the $17,000 fits in nicely.

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    In the not too distant future, next Sunday A.D.
  25. This sounds like a statup idea from 1999 by abolitiontheory · · Score: 3, Funny

    alright boys, here's the plan:

    1. lie in bed.

    2. get fed.

    3. profit!

    sound good? let's get to bed!

  26. They should call up Blizzard by Shivetya · · Score: 4, Insightful

    and do a cross promotion, in particular concentrate on World of Warcraft players. With Season 4 PvP gear coming down these people will have lots of reason to spend all their time in one place

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    1. Re:They should call up Blizzard by Thyamine · · Score: 1

      I was thinking this same exact thing.

      "Tired of just grinding in WoW? Now grind in _RL_ too! Spend hour after hour _in bed_ earning cash, while you kill your 10,000th dragon whelp for leather!'

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    2. Re:They should call up Blizzard by moosesocks · · Score: 4, Funny

      and do a cross promotion, in particular concentrate on World of Warcraft players. With Season 4 PvP gear coming down these people will have lots of reason to spend all their time in one place To the moderator who scored this as 'Insightful': Get Help.
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  27. You forgot... by keirre23hu · · Score: 1

    Can I bring my Playstation 3
    Do they have cable/satellite

    1. Re:You forgot... by MichaelSmith · · Score: 4, Funny

      Do they have cable/satellite I am sure the have satellites
  28. Wait, by td04impostor · · Score: 1

    NASA hosts reality shows now?

  29. not for anyone by hesaigo999ca · · Score: 1

    This should not be for just anyone....how about doing this experiment with patients in hospitals that could use the money and are already pretty much in bed all day to to something or other...
    make good use of your experiments, no???

    1. Re:not for anyone by sudden.zero · · Score: 1

      Doing this study on hospital patients would not work, because in order to be accurate the study would need to be done on a healthy human subject. Otherwise they would have to distinguish between the effects of the illness and those caused by the lack of muscle use.

    2. Re:not for anyone by hesaigo999ca · · Score: 1

      True however there are also those that have just been admitted for let's say an appendix removal or something small, where they could alleviate the hospital bill by doing an experiment like this, you don't need to go for the cancer patient either!

  30. Can you read slashdot while in bed ? by giorgist · · Score: 1

    Can you read slashdot while in bed ?

    Meet you guys there

    G

  31. Hmmmm... by Dancindan84 · · Score: 1

    Give me an bed that can incline and a computer that can play WoW with a net connection and I'm in.

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    "Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much." - Oscar Wilde
  32. day 89, and you have to bail? by Chapter80 · · Score: 2, Interesting
    $5000/month? or $15,000 for 90 days?

    It'd really suck if you got to day 89, and then had a family emergency.

    1. Re:day 89, and you have to bail? by brunokummel · · Score: 1

      $5000/month? or $15,000 for 90 days?

      It'd really suck if you got to day 89, and then had a family emergency.


      LOL, like you could snap out of the bed and run to your family after you spent 89 days on a bed....
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  33. I you get DIRECTV with and will be able to use PPV by Joe+The+Dragon · · Score: 1

    I you get DIRECTV with and will be able to use PPV as there some good movies that you will miss be doing this.

  34. Attention Brian Wilson by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Brian Wilson, this sounds like a job for you.

    Brian Wilson: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Wilson

  35. Re:Paying People To Lie in Bed by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The government's been doing that for years. It's called welfare.
    I hope you never need any help. People who think welfare is for lazy people don't generally do well when they are in a position of need.
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  36. Not even nearly worth it by mserms · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I broke my back a few years ago and needed to lie flat on my back for three weeks (nurses rolled me onto my side once a day to wash my back). In that time my legs had become about 1/3 thinner. Not that I cared too much - I wasn't paralysed.

    If I had chosen not to have surgery, I would have needed to lie on my back for twelve weeks. I was told that it would take about two years to get back to normal strength if I'd gone down that route...

    You couldn't pay me enough to be in bed for 90 days.

  37. Sign me up! by Slacksoft · · Score: 1

    Just give me a computer, TV, radio, shipping address for Amazon purchases, and a privacy curtain and I'm in! It'll be just like it is now, except instead of a chair I have a bed. I wonder if work would let me tele-commute....

  38. Stupid me by sxmjmae · · Score: 1

    And stupid me laying in bed for free. Does diet coke and twinkies count as a special diet?

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    1. Re:Stupid me by ZeroExistenZ · · Score: 1

      Does diet coke and twinkies count as a special diet?

      Yes. It's called dietbetis.

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  39. What, none of them has a teen at home? by Shadow+Wrought · · Score: 1

    Though I guess the "carefully controlled diet" probably isn't twinkies, Raman, and Monster, eh?

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    1. Re:What, none of them has a teen at home? by jimcooncat · · Score: 1

      Monster is an energy drink, right? Sounds like its working great!

    2. Re:What, none of them has a teen at home? by treeves · · Score: 1

      Raman? I prefer FTIR. Raman leaves me hungry an hour later.

      --
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  40. Script availabilty by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is this script standard available in Hardy yet?

  41. Wait, that's only .... by OneSmartFellow · · Score: 1

    .... $7.87 per hour ......... no thanks.

    A cheap whore could do better

  42. I applied for this a week ago by nicklikesfire · · Score: 1

    I swear, this story was on /. before, or at least mentioned in a similar article, but I might be wrong. After actually applying, and realizing it's something I might end up getting picked to do, I realized just how much this would suck. I'm almost positive I will not go through with it. That being said, anyone know of any other good PAID research studies to participate in?

  43. Re:Paying People To Lie in Bed by superyooser · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm not against it for the truly needy, but it is commonly abused. The government is paying some people to sit around and watch Oprah. Welfare shouldn't be used to promote a lifestyle of laziness for those who could work.

    Ok, let me have a Take #2:
    The government's been doing that for people for years. They're called federal employees.

  44. Another El Mariachi? by mikeraz · · Score: 1

    Maybe this will fund a great movie or two.

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    There's more to it than this.

  45. Re:Paying People To Lie in Bed by ttapper04 · · Score: 1

    You sir, are my new hero.


    Flawless Victory goes to you.

  46. You couldn't pay me enough to do this by thebigbadwolf · · Score: 0

    Imagine how bored you would get. It would take me a day or two before I would be craving some physical activity. Think of all the things you could think about, all the philosophical existential questions you could ponder over... for 90 days. Am I scaring you yet? There's nothing in the article about what NASA or the people conducting the test would do keep you entertained. Presumably you can play the wii lying down, watch movies and listen to music? Anyway, just the thought of no physical activity for that much is killing me (I'm saying this even though I'm not a fitness lets run 10-miles-a-day type). It's one thing to stay in bed for months to go to Mars (I would), its completely another to do it here.

  47. Deeper understanding by AlpineR · · Score: 4, Interesting

    How much artificial gravity do you need? 1.0 G? 0.2 G?

    Will some experimental drugs help counteract the effects of weightlessness?

    Can the problems be alleviated with specific exercises during weightlessness?

    How long will it take to recover after returning to gravity? If an astronaut is weightless on a trip to Mars, can he be back up in a week or a month?

    If you want to treat something as a problem to overcome, you might need to know more than "It's bad", ok?

    1. Re:Deeper understanding by Serpentegena · · Score: 1

      How long will it take to recover after returning to gravity?
      According to the official website of the project they are counting two weeks of recovery time.

      I am now beginning to smell a PR stunt.
      In fact, just staring at the picture of two women makes me wonder how the scientists managing this study intend to counteract the gravity pull while eating/drinking.
      I don't know about you guys, but as a kid, I was never curious enough to try to swallow my food with my head upside down...but of course, I wouldn't feel bad seeing someone else try it.
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    2. Re:Deeper understanding by LurkerXXX · · Score: 1

      I think this is exactly right. They are trying to (with the unfortunate limitation of being located on earth) determine the lowest G rating which will keep the body health long term.

      If it's .5G that the outside of the spinning hull will have to take, that's going to requires a lot more engineering (and hence, weight that has to be lifted into orbit) than if it's 0.1 G

    3. Re:Deeper understanding by nanoflower · · Score: 1

      We don't know how much artificial gravity humans need to stay healthy. That's been one of the concerns about trying to go to Mars. Presumably if they went there they would stay for some time. So they are in some very reduced or zero gravity environment for the trip to and from Mars, and then at a 0.3g (I think that's the number) environment while on Mars. Can that be done and have people stay healthy? That's something they keep working on.

    4. Re:Deeper understanding by YttriumOxide · · Score: 1

      then at a 0.3g (I think that's the number) environment while on Mars

      I thought somewhere between 0.35g and 0.40g... but I don't recall exactly and I'm too lazy to look it up right now.

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  48. Under $8/hour to ruin your health? by guidryp · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Considering you are working 24/7, that is pretty low pay rate of under $8/hr. Maybe starving students might take them up on this. I think only 20 year olds would fully recover from this as well.

    I might consider doing it for Ten Times that amount $150k to $200K. Not worth risking my health otherwise.

    Not to mention this would probably feel like torture after a week. My back gets sore if I lay in bed too long on Sunday mornings.

    1. Re:Under $8/hour to ruin your health? by mgblst · · Score: 1

      Surprisingly, students are who this is aimed at, not highly paid IT professionals. And getting paid to sleep isn't to bad, I usually have to hide to do that, and then can only grab about 30 mins. It is much more difficult since I lost my office.

    2. Re:Under $8/hour to ruin your health? by Criton · · Score: 1

      Same here it just isn't worth the risk of getting a blood clot in something.

  49. Is it really a deal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    $17,000 - tax = around $11,000 take home money
    So with $11000 remaining
    Factor in months of Therapy (PT and Counseling) - you might end up in the red!

    BTW - where did they get $17000?
    $5000 per month x 3 months = $15000.
    Is the $2000 bonus when you complete the 90 days?

    1. Re:Is it really a deal? by Sporkinum · · Score: 1

      No, not really a deal..
      Bed Rest Study

      In order to study a person as if they were in space without gravity, NASA scientists use head down tilt bed rest. The 115-119 day study will follow the Bed Rest Project standard model and be conducted at the University of Texas Medical Branch in Galveston, Texas. Participants will live in a special research unit for the entire study and be fed a carefully controlled diet.

      During the first 11-15 days of the study participants will be free to move around inside the bed rest facility and do normal things. They will also take part in a number of tests to find out the normal state of their bone, muscle, heart and circulatory system, brain and nervous system, and vestibular (inner ear balance) system as well as their nutritional condition and their ability to fight off infections.

      After the first 11-15-day period, participants will spend 90 days lying in bed, (except for limited times for specific tests) with their body slightly tilted downward (head down, feet up). Every day, they will be awake for 16 hours and lights out (asleep) for 8 hours. During the bed rest time they will also take part in a number of tests to find out changes in the state of their bone, muscle, heart and circulatory system, and nervous system, as well as their nutritional condition and their ability to fight off infections.

      During the final 14 days of the study (called the recovery period), participants will again be free to move about within the facility. Because of deconditioning that takes place during bed rest, they will slowly begin normal everyday activity. During the recovery period, they will again take part in tests of their bone, muscle, heart and circulatory systems, and nervous systems, as well as their nutritional condition and their ability to fight off infections.

      --
      "He's lost in a 'floyd hole"
  50. I would rather spend my time living my life. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No amount of money would be able to compensate for the boredom of sitting there in that bed for three months. Even with access to things like internet, TV, video games, and sex (yes, I do get this regularly), it still wouldn't be worth it. My body would get bored.

    Why don't they study the disabled or elderly who have no choice in the matter? Are they actively seeking "healthy" individuals for this task?

    1. Re:I would rather spend my time living my life. by TheStonepedo · · Score: 1

      I agree completely. I broke my back in September and had to spend all but 1-2 hours per day in bed for the entire months of September and October, as well as a good part of November. In less than a week I looked forward to that one hour of time on my feet, even time on a toilet. In less than a month, I developed orthostatic hypotension (passing out when I got up). I would not take any amount of money to be stuck in bed. It is unhealthy.

      --
      I'll be your candy shop of infinite deliciousity if you'll be my discotheque of endless rump-shaking.
  51. Not worth the health risks by mlwmohawk · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It sounds like a lot of money, but 90 days in bed will cause a lot of your body atrophy, heart, lungs, legs, etc. Not to mention a lack of vascular assistance in blood circulation could cause clots.

  52. Governor of New York Pays better by ThinkThis · · Score: 4, Funny

    The (former) Governor of New York will pay $5000 per hour. Of course the requirements are different than NASA's.

  53. Really boring? by Serpentegena · · Score: 1

    I think in fact the test subjects will be required to work - granted, from bed, but studying a guy rest for three months is not really relevant research for NASA, who is trying to send people to work with maximum productivity under stress conditions.

    It can be pretty darn difficult to be productive in a rest position where your body has a tendency to relax, unwind and switch off. Case in point:D - I am posting this from bed:)

    --
    Microsoft put the "sucks" in "success".
    1. Re:Really boring? by BoogeyOfTheMan · · Score: 1

      Heh, I use my PC from bed too. I have noticed that when I am reading/typing something that requires more thought, I tend to sit up and lean towards the kb, instead of just typing with it on my lap.

  54. USSR did this too. by Cyberax · · Score: 4, Informative

    There was a similar research program in the USSR - subjects lied on bed for 6 months without moving.

    As far as I remember, one subject broke his femur when he tried to stand for the first time after the test. Also, all subjects experienced frequent orthostatic collapses (i.e. they fainted then they tried to stand up).

    The damage was quickly corrected by using calcium gluconate injections and physical therapy.

    Alas, I can't find a source for this in English.

    1. Re:USSR did this too. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      So give a source in Russian. Otherwise you're saying "I can prove this but most people reading wouldn't be able to understand it so I just won't bother"

    2. Re:USSR did this too. by Cyberax · · Score: 1

      http://www.proza.ru/texts/2006/05/07-127.html - that's memoirs of a military forensic examiner.

      I've read about this loooong time ago in a paper magazine ("Technika - molodezhi").

  55. That's $500 for staying in bed... by MadMidnightBomber · · Score: 2, Insightful

    and $4500 for having to live in Galveston, TX.

    --
    "It doesn't cost enough, and it makes too much sense."
    1. Re:That's $500 for staying in bed... by Kjella · · Score: 1

      and $4500 for having to live in Galveston, TX.

      If you're literally in bed all day, does it really matter if you are in a penthouse suite in NY or in Galveston, TX?
      --
      Live today, because you never know what tomorrow brings
    2. Re:That's $500 for staying in bed... by Cederic · · Score: 1

      You've clearly never been to Galveston

  56. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 5, Funny

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  57. Old news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is being done in Germany as well, payment is 8000 Euros for 60 days of laying in bed.
    Incidentally, this was on TV last night.

  58. Re:2009: A Sleep Odyssey by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Title was wrong.

  59. Things to do? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    any chance I can play WOW during the time?

  60. Anonymous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Will there be beer?

  61. Firestarter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You've seen firestarter? This is all cool till the guy next to you rips his eyeballs out.

  62. se7en by mkcmkc · · Score: 1

    I'm pretty sure I saw this in a movie (se7en aka Seven). The guy in the movie didn't look too good after 12 months...

    --
    "Not an actor, but he plays one on TV."
    1. Re:se7en by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ahahah isn't that the truth

  63. Hospital Inpatient by evansad · · Score: 1

    Wouldn't it be less expensive to employ the services of bedridden hospital inpatients and perhaps offer to pay for their stay at hospital in return for studying them?

  64. Taxes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is this 17k before or after taxes...

  65. Ah! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    90 days in diapers?

  66. Day 91 is going to be messy by gmc74 · · Score: 1

    Is it safe to assume that if they aren't getting up, then they are going to have catheters and colostomy bags? 90 days is more than enough to form a habit, day 91 is going to get a bit messy...

  67. Read the fine print first... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    What they neglected to say is that they are only accepting attractive young female applicants, and that the beds would be shared with NASA engineers.


    At less than $200/day I guess they figured it was cheaper than hookers or marriage.

  68. No thanks by Junior+J.+Junior+III · · Score: 1

    They almost pay me that much to do work. If I had to lie in bed for a solid month, I would probably go insane.

    --
    You see? You see? Your stupid minds! Stupid! Stupid!
  69. Sorry to disagree, but by celtic_hackr · · Score: 1

    SpaceLab actually had a simulated gravity, plus many of the effects of microgravity can be overcome by using varying methods. Exercise is a critical element. Some of the effects cannot be overcome, and it is unknown whether creating a simulated gravity will have any impact on these effects. Additionally the ISS will have a Centrifgual module to create gravities up to twice that of Earth's. Lastly, simulating the lack of gravity may not produce the same results as actual low gravity environments. Lastly while the idea of creating a gravity may sound simple, actual implementation using the known technology may not be so easy. It's really simple to say to get to the refrigerator, "simply walk three feet north, the seven feet west-northwest". It's quite another thing programming a robot to actually walk those ten steps. But, I suppose since everyone here seems so convinced we know all the effects and treatments for low-gravity NASA should just pack up and go away. Nothing left to learn here so why bother, right. We've done such a great job of solving all the other medical/bio-physical problems like flu, the common cold, AIDS, mental illness. We know all there is to know right? Why do any more research?

  70. To Lie in bed? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And for a moment I thought that I was going to get paid for lying while I was in bed :-)

  71. Doin it by nickname29 · · Score: 1

    Fuckit, I'll do it for free.

  72. Contractors don't make that much by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That is more than I make working as a contractor for NASA.... I want a raise!

  73. Unfair by bobbuck · · Score: 1

    Once again, funny + true = flamebait.

  74. NASA has done this before, in 1970! by thegrendel · · Score: 0

    NASA solicited volunteers for this same experiment
    back in 1970 at the Safford, Ariz. Federal Prison Camp. Only, they didn't offer monetary compensation
    to the inmates who volunteered; it just counted as time served on their sentences.

    IIRC, that time the testing was conducted at the Presidio, in SF, CA. ...

    Maybe NASA figures they can do it right this time.

  75. Minimum wage? by Antony-Kyre · · Score: 1

    Is that below or above minimum wage for where they are to conduct the study? 720 hours per month, more or less.

  76. Re:Paying People To Lie in Bed by drsquare · · Score: 1

    I hope you never need any help. People who think welfare is for lazy people don't generally do well when they are in a position of need.
    People who think welfare is for lazy people generally have jobs. I can understand disability benefits, but paying people unemployment when there are millions of immigrants trying to get in to work, it's utterly baffling.
  77. Finally!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A job my wife would actually be good at!

  78. I prefer lie on dating sites by peter303 · · Score: 1

    Good looking, rich, smart, funny, athletic ...

  79. 90 days easy pft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    give me a laptop and a wow account and ill stay in bed for 90 days no problem.

  80. old news by archermadness · · Score: 1

    Is this news because most people haven't heard of it, or because NASA is still doing it? They have been at this for at least 20 years, as I looked into it while in college in Houston. At the time (and I'm sure now) they had studies that lasted anywhere from a weekend to a full year. 30, 60, or 90 day studies were not uncommon.

  81. Just be aware, that you'll have to learn to walk by melted · · Score: 1

    Just be aware, that you'll have to learn to walk again when you're done. I had to spend about 10 days in bed once after a surgery, and guess what, I had to learn to walk again. I just could not do it; in fact even sitting up felt really weird.

  82. Re:Just be aware, that you'll have to learn to wal by gmc74 · · Score: 1

    They will be getting up to do certain study related tasks, though 90 days of little movement will cause them to lose muscle mass. 10 days? That isn't enough time to have your muscles atrophy, you must have other issues as well.

  83. Re:Just be aware, that you'll have to learn to wal by melted · · Score: 1

    That's not about the muscles. Vestibular system gets screwed up very quickly if you don't use it.

  84. laptop yes! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If i can have my laptop ill volunteer.

    Laying in a bed jamming out to world of warcraft. and getting paid!

    sure beats my folks basement.

  85. Re:Paying People To Lie in Bed by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2, Insightful

    People who think welfare is for lazy people generally have jobs.
    I bet you don't realize just how many of those people who "have jobs" are themselves getting a type of welfare.

    Do you have a big mortgage? You're getting "welfare" when you deduct your interest payments from your income taxes.

    Do you have a kid in college? You're getting a nice fat welfare payment in the form of Pell Grants.

    Are you an oil company exec or trader at Goldman Sachs or Morgan Chase? You're getting a HUGE amount of welfare from our federal government in the form of exploration "incentives" and handouts from the Fed to buy your competitors.

    Are you a banker? You're getting a hell of a lot of "welfare" by being able to borrow money from the government at 2% and turn around and loan it to your credit card customers at 30%;

    Generally, folks who are complaining about "lazy welfare recipients" are those who want government to leave them alone when it comes to profits but asks for socialism when it comes to their losses.

    When the government gives you $400 it's called "welfare" and you are looked down on. When the government gives you $400Million it's called "capitalism" and you are considered a shrewd and successful businessman.

    --
    You are welcome on my lawn.
  86. SPOILER ALERT! Twilight Zone by pablodiazgutierrez · · Score: 1

    That reminds me of this Twilight Zone episode where two guys go on a bet that one of them cannot keep his mouth shut for a year. Sure he does, but in the end you learn he did so by cutting his vocal cords. You just have to find something that is worth less than $15,000 and that you wouldn't mind parting with if it helps you being able to stay in bed 90 days.

  87. $6.94/hour by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd rather stay at my current job and have some spare time of my own, plus I get to wank without people with clipboards adding it to there 'standard model' :)

  88. But ... by Tired+and+Emotional · · Score: 1

    How often do they come in and change the nails?

    --
    Squirrel!
  89. Conjugal visits? by Neanderthal+Ninny · · Score: 1

    Any conjugal visits? Even a condemned prisoners has that right.
    90 days on bed should have some "enjoyment" on it.

  90. Slashdotted already. Who knew a bunch of nerds would leap at the chance to lay in bed all day? It's not like I was going to use the time to play World of Warcraft or anything.

  91. Best use of Perl ever by patio11 · · Score: 1

    Plus, if they ever ask to see the source, you can just say its a build file and God Himself would not be able to tell the difference.