Python, like many languages, has it's place and does certain things well.
That's pretty much how I see it. Any tool can be misused, and once you get to a large, complex program Python leaves a lot to be desired. The exception to that is when your application consists of a relatively small, well defined code as a module in a potentially complex framework that is itself well written and supported. That's where a "loose" language like Python really shines and that also describes the browser environment.
What if. It is all what-if at this point. Javscript it is.
In a modern web applications you can already be dealing with multiple syntax rules in one file: (HTML, CSS, JS, template-of-your-choice, etc). I don't see how Python could be any worse than a CDATA section.
If that had been done rules for dealing with the Python white space requirement would have been established from the very start, everyone would be forced to learn it before anything would work, and by now everyone would consider it "natural" and how could it be any other way.
To get modded up, you should put your anti-Trump rant at the beginning of your post. The anti-Trump moderators don't read past the first sentence.
So it would seem. I really don't care about getting up-mods all that much. Less than I care about clicking "submit" and there are still spelling errors.
But given the nature of the pro-Trump responses in this thread already (obviously the source of my "Troll" rating) it is clear that they are so committed to "their side" that any discussion or rating of an objective statement seems wholly pointless. There is no objectivity in their world -- just their tribe and their agenda. So I leave it at that.
I would have answered the survey with the majority.
Personally I learned and started using both Python and Javascript late in my career that goes all the way back to writing assembly language on the CDC 6000 and I can't remember how many languages I used. (DIBOL anyone? APL?). As with most software engineers I read Javascript seems to be one of the most unprofessionally crafted languages ever put into wide use.
The updates to Javascript (ES5/ES6) go a long way to fixing things. However I have often wondered how much the world would be different had Python been used as the in-browser programming language rather than JS (ECMAscript) from the start.
The only problem I think Python would introduce is its dependence on white space as a syntactically significant element. That seems like a small compromise. Anyone else think this?
I have been thinking since this started that Mueller has the most phenomenal luck in catching this assignment. After running the FBI pretty much everything else he could do would be anticlimactic; a downhill slide to obscurity and retirement.
Instead, everyone in the entire world is breathlessly waiting for what he has got. What his real skills are. What effect he will have on the history of the civilized world.
Add to that there could not be a bigger, fatter, softer target that Donald J Trump and his hapless progeny and minions and cronies. These guys are up to their armpits in Russian mob money that's what has Jared, Junior, and fat old dad so worried. The collusion business is barely actionable, but they know that the trail leads to all the money laundering they have been doing for the past two decades.
I don't expect anyone named Trump to do any jail time. And certainly Trump is immune from the consequences of any action he took as long as Republicans control congress. But if Mueller has even 1/10th of what he is generally believed to have Trump is going to have a very miserable year.
2. The lack of interest in Hillary's collusion makes this probe seem disingenuous and partisan. Hillary definitely collected millions from Russia.
We do not have the reports lest (publicaly at least) but what is generally known is that the Russian operation agitprop was wholly anti-Hillary and pro-Trump. There is simply no path of logic that can conclude that the same Russians (Putin-connected) were out to help Hillary. Your assertion is nothing more than right-wing derp.
I wonder what moonlighting clause the compensation package has.
Musk is "moolighting" with SpaceX and The Boring Company already and probably others I don't keep track of. So what does Tesla get? 30%?
To be usable the Tinder app requires you to post pictures of yourself, presumably looking as attractive as possible in some way, and a come-on line and a few personal details such as what gender you are and what gender you are looking for. Anybody can view all that.
So after exposing all that what you swipe on is supposed to be a "risk" of some kind? Seems to me that ship already sailed.
California -- the only US state to experience rolling blackouts due to incompetent "central planning". More to be coming soon...
Are you referring to the market manipulation conducted by the energy traders empowered in the Bush years?
"Burn baby burn!" I still remember that recording. It sounded like a callow frat boy getting his first lap dance. But he had reason -- hundreds of millions were sucked out of the state but the combination of a fire and rigging the electricity supply.
Once the "free market" was brought under proper regulation we have had no rolling blackouts.
It seems that the Japanese want to anthropomorphize everything. If you watch any anime you are familiar with this.
Maybe the most extreme example I have seen is Kantai Collection. The story is full of cute girls. Each one is a Japanese war ship. Not, mind you, a symbol for or otherwise a representative of the war ship but actually THE war ship. And they take on physical attributes for example the carriers have big physiques and the destroyers are all little younger girls. Aside from being cute girls they have deadly battles.
One is left to wonder if the fan base is supposed to (or actually does) fantasize about having sex with a battleship (or a carrier, or a destroyer).
The reason you keep seeing new frameworks pop up is that the prior frameworks don't really solve the base problems that need to be solved.
To make it worse there will be groups that have different perception of what the "base problems" are. I am sure there are more than two such categories of players.
Hence, more frameworks.
You need to stop and ask are web SPAs with rich interactivity really needed in the first place? Having thought about it my conclusion is a resounding YES. If you don't agree obviously you will never like any framework that I like. We won't even agree on whether Javascript itself should be required to be enabled or not.
For me right now that means Angular. I did a lot of work with JSF but that just doesn't cut it anymore. It doesn't matter to me that Vue or ReactJS or some other framework is "up and coming" on SO as long as Angular development proceeds. If anything "my" group is going to get good ideas from those other groups and my own application will get better if I keep an open mind about it.
At the end of the day I want to get my app deployed. The users don't give a damn what framework I used
... instead of using domestic whistle-blower options, took state secrets to our only real enemy...yeah, credibility=zero."
Aw, jeez. This again? Your talking (thinking?) points have been so thoroughly debunked so many times.
This is probably useless but..
#1: Snowden tried using official channels first. They did not work.
#2: Snowden never took information to any "enemy." He scouted out the most responsible free-world journalists he could find who have routinely took what he gave them to officials in the U.S. and U.K. before they published them. China never got anything from him. Russia never got anything from him. (p.s. they didn't need it.)
#3: On the issue of credibility everything Snowden said has turned out to be true. You can't say the same for what officials in the U.S. and U.K. have said.
#4: As has been repeatedly demonstrated, there are no "domestic whistle blower" options, except to go to solitary deep prison with minimal government-controlled access and all evidence in your defense sealed for "national security" reasons.
What interests me is that (1) Google failed to look at what had been tried in the past before implementing their program, and (2) continues to do it despite overwhelming evidence that it isn't working.
Who says it isn't working? Just because it has a problem doesn't mean that it is a total failure.
The prior model they used probably wasn't the Tuscon episode you wrote about. Long before Google came around there was Silicon Graphics (occupying some of the same buildings I think) and they had a bike-share facility that worked just fine and didn't have any GPS or other electronics for enforcement.
What the article doesn't mention is how many Google employees are responsible for the misuse. If they had to hire someone to go out and recover a bike that a Google employee misappropriated it seems to me that would be grounds for dismissal or other discipline. If they started doing that I think that part the problem would disappear pretty quickly.
I put in a request to Patrick Smith to write a blog entry on this. He hasn't commented on this that I have seen but anything you would want to know about it he will know.
I thought that architecture and the base code in the Linux networking protocol stack was mostly written by some guy in Russia. Can anyone here confirm that?
If true, it therefore must follow that Putin has my browser history. And yours. Also everything we ever did online.
That seems to be about the standard for panic being followed. here.
I never heard of someone getting their phone service cut because they were doing something illegal with it.
WTF is an ISP doing trying to play law enforcer? The authorities should get a warrant, tap the traffic, then make an arrest. Or not, if it turns out the evidence wasn't correct.
Then the ISP should update their watchdog software to not give such false positives.
What online IoTish thermostat doesn't have a well-defined offline mode in the first place? Is NEST like that? I don't have one but was thinking about it.
There should be no such thing as an online device that doesn't behave properly when the Internet service goes down. Obviously it can't do everything it can do when the service is up but it should at least be programmable to do something reasonable if not desirable.
Established that they are official statements? No, but that was claimed earlier this year by Sean Spicer, the White House press secretary at the time.
More than just Spicer. The 9th circuit said, basically, that they were pretty much the same stature as executive orders:
Buried in a footnote in the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals’ unanimous opinion upholding the bulk of the injunction blocking Donald Trump’s travel ban, there is a moment of reckoning in which the panel addresses whether the president’s tweets constitute binding statements of executive intent.
Twitter is little more than a digital version of some a-hole writing something on the wall of a public restroom.
Along the line of a-holes on Twitter..
Wasn't it established in a federal court that Trump's tweets amount to official statements and can be cited as effective policy statements? Further, I recall they must be preserved by the official records act.
I don't have the citation handy and don't remember what venue it was but perhaps someone else here can post it.
In case you haven't seen it I rather liked Huffington Post's editorial on the subject. Basically it says "We're owned by Verizon so we win and you lose."
For something like this you would be better off reading the peerreviewedpapers
on the subject rather than rhetoric on an Internet forum.
Then again, it might be more important to some people to scare the public with scary factoids than to provide education. That's my observation at least.
TL;DR: Airline pilots have some higher risk of skin cancer but not other cancers. Also additional lifestyle factors are difficult to filter out from sample set.
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Python, like many languages, has it's place and does certain things well.
That's pretty much how I see it. Any tool can be misused, and once you get to a large, complex program Python leaves a lot to be desired. The exception to that is when your application consists of a relatively small, well defined code as a module in a potentially complex framework that is itself well written and supported. That's where a "loose" language like Python really shines and that also describes the browser environment.
What if. It is all what-if at this point. Javscript it is.
In a modern web applications you can already be dealing with multiple syntax rules in one file: (HTML, CSS, JS, template-of-your-choice, etc). I don't see how Python could be any worse than a CDATA section.
If that had been done rules for dealing with the Python white space requirement would have been established from the very start, everyone would be forced to learn it before anything would work, and by now everyone would consider it "natural" and how could it be any other way.
To get modded up, you should put your anti-Trump rant at the beginning of your post. The anti-Trump moderators don't read past the first sentence.
So it would seem. I really don't care about getting up-mods all that much. Less than I care about clicking "submit" and there are still spelling errors.
But given the nature of the pro-Trump responses in this thread already (obviously the source of my "Troll" rating) it is clear that they are so committed to "their side" that any discussion or rating of an objective statement seems wholly pointless. There is no objectivity in their world -- just their tribe and their agenda. So I leave it at that.
I would have answered the survey with the majority.
Personally I learned and started using both Python and Javascript late in my career that goes all the way back to writing assembly language on the CDC 6000 and I can't remember how many languages I used. (DIBOL anyone? APL?). As with most software engineers I read Javascript seems to be one of the most unprofessionally crafted languages ever put into wide use.
The updates to Javascript (ES5/ES6) go a long way to fixing things. However I have often wondered how much the world would be different had Python been used as the in-browser programming language rather than JS (ECMAscript) from the start.
The only problem I think Python would introduce is its dependence on white space as a syntactically significant element. That seems like a small compromise. Anyone else think this?
I have been thinking since this started that Mueller has the most phenomenal luck in catching this assignment. After running the FBI pretty much everything else he could do would be anticlimactic; a downhill slide to obscurity and retirement.
Instead, everyone in the entire world is breathlessly waiting for what he has got. What his real skills are. What effect he will have on the history of the civilized world.
Add to that there could not be a bigger, fatter, softer target that Donald J Trump and his hapless progeny and minions and cronies. These guys are up to their armpits in Russian mob money that's what has Jared, Junior, and fat old dad so worried. The collusion business is barely actionable, but they know that the trail leads to all the money laundering they have been doing for the past two decades.
I don't expect anyone named Trump to do any jail time. And certainly Trump is immune from the consequences of any action he took as long as Republicans control congress. But if Mueller has even 1/10th of what he is generally believed to have Trump is going to have a very miserable year.
2. The lack of interest in Hillary's collusion makes this probe seem disingenuous and partisan. Hillary definitely collected millions from Russia.
We do not have the reports lest (publicaly at least) but what is generally known is that the Russian operation agitprop was wholly anti-Hillary and pro-Trump. There is simply no path of logic that can conclude that the same Russians (Putin-connected) were out to help Hillary. Your assertion is nothing more than right-wing derp.
I wonder what moonlighting clause the compensation package has. Musk is "moolighting" with SpaceX and The Boring Company already and probably others I don't keep track of. So what does Tesla get? 30%?
I don't get it.
To be usable the Tinder app requires you to post pictures of yourself, presumably looking as attractive as possible in some way, and a come-on line and a few personal details such as what gender you are and what gender you are looking for. Anybody can view all that.
So after exposing all that what you swipe on is supposed to be a "risk" of some kind? Seems to me that ship already sailed.
How do they test it for surviving the 9G ascent?
Who volunteers for that mission?
You would be surprised at how many would.
Not me though. Never buy Version 1.0 and all that.
California -- the only US state to experience rolling blackouts due to incompetent "central planning". More to be coming soon...
Are you referring to the market manipulation conducted by the energy traders empowered in the Bush years?
"Burn baby burn!" I still remember that recording. It sounded like a callow frat boy getting his first lap dance. But he had reason -- hundreds of millions were sucked out of the state but the combination of a fire and rigging the electricity supply.
Once the "free market" was brought under proper regulation we have had no rolling blackouts.
It seems that the Japanese want to anthropomorphize everything. If you watch any anime you are familiar with this.
Maybe the most extreme example I have seen is Kantai Collection. The story is full of cute girls. Each one is a Japanese war ship. Not, mind you, a symbol for or otherwise a representative of the war ship but actually THE war ship. And they take on physical attributes for example the carriers have big physiques and the destroyers are all little younger girls. Aside from being cute girls they have deadly battles.
One is left to wonder if the fan base is supposed to (or actually does) fantasize about having sex with a battleship (or a carrier, or a destroyer).
This seems fairly normal in comparison.
The reason you keep seeing new frameworks pop up is that the prior frameworks don't really solve the base problems that need to be solved.
To make it worse there will be groups that have different perception of what the "base problems" are. I am sure there are more than two such categories of players.
Hence, more frameworks.
You need to stop and ask are web SPAs with rich interactivity really needed in the first place? Having thought about it my conclusion is a resounding YES. If you don't agree obviously you will never like any framework that I like. We won't even agree on whether Javascript itself should be required to be enabled or not.
For me right now that means Angular. I did a lot of work with JSF but that just doesn't cut it anymore. It doesn't matter to me that Vue or ReactJS or some other framework is "up and coming" on SO as long as Angular development proceeds. If anything "my" group is going to get good ideas from those other groups and my own application will get better if I keep an open mind about it.
At the end of the day I want to get my app deployed. The users don't give a damn what framework I used
Democrats gerrymander too, don't get me wrong. But they haven't abused it to the extent like the Republicans in NC did.
Are you aware of any Democratic-majority states that were under the Consent Degree? (At least until Roberts court gutted the VRA last year).
"Fair" has nothing to do with Law once it is passed.
Maybe you should review the equal protection clause.
... instead of using domestic whistle-blower options, took state secrets to our only real enemy...yeah, credibility=zero."
Aw, jeez. This again? Your talking (thinking?) points have been so thoroughly debunked so many times.
This is probably useless but..
#1: Snowden tried using official channels first. They did not work.
#2: Snowden never took information to any "enemy." He scouted out the most responsible free-world journalists he could find who have routinely took what he gave them to officials in the U.S. and U.K. before they published them. China never got anything from him. Russia never got anything from him. (p.s. they didn't need it.)
#3: On the issue of credibility everything Snowden said has turned out to be true. You can't say the same for what officials in the U.S. and U.K. have said.
#4: As has been repeatedly demonstrated, there are no "domestic whistle blower" options, except to go to solitary deep prison with minimal government-controlled access and all evidence in your defense sealed for "national security" reasons.
What interests me is that (1) Google failed to look at what had been tried in the past before implementing their program, and (2) continues to do it despite overwhelming evidence that it isn't working.
Who says it isn't working? Just because it has a problem doesn't mean that it is a total failure.
The prior model they used probably wasn't the Tuscon episode you wrote about. Long before Google came around there was Silicon Graphics (occupying some of the same buildings I think) and they had a bike-share facility that worked just fine and didn't have any GPS or other electronics for enforcement.
What the article doesn't mention is how many Google employees are responsible for the misuse. If they had to hire someone to go out and recover a bike that a Google employee misappropriated it seems to me that would be grounds for dismissal or other discipline. If they started doing that I think that part the problem would disappear pretty quickly.
I put in a request to Patrick Smith to write a blog entry on this. He hasn't commented on this that I have seen but anything you would want to know about it he will know.
I thought that architecture and the base code in the Linux networking protocol stack was mostly written by some guy in Russia. Can anyone here confirm that?
If true, it therefore must follow that Putin has my browser history. And yours. Also everything we ever did online.
That seems to be about the standard for panic being followed. here.
I never heard of someone getting their phone service cut because they were doing something illegal with it.
WTF is an ISP doing trying to play law enforcer? The authorities should get a warrant, tap the traffic, then make an arrest. Or not, if it turns out the evidence wasn't correct.
Then the ISP should update their watchdog software to not give such false positives.
What online IoTish thermostat doesn't have a well-defined offline mode in the first place? Is NEST like that? I don't have one but was thinking about it.
There should be no such thing as an online device that doesn't behave properly when the Internet service goes down. Obviously it can't do everything it can do when the service is up but it should at least be programmable to do something reasonable if not desirable.
Established that they are official statements? No, but that was claimed earlier this year by Sean Spicer, the White House press secretary at the time.
More than just Spicer. The 9th circuit said, basically, that they were pretty much the same stature as executive orders:
Twitter is little more than a digital version of some a-hole writing something on the wall of a public restroom.
Along the line of a-holes on Twitter..
Wasn't it established in a federal court that Trump's tweets amount to official statements and can be cited as effective policy statements? Further, I recall they must be preserved by the official records act.
I don't have the citation handy and don't remember what venue it was but perhaps someone else here can post it.
In case you haven't seen it I rather liked Huffington Post's editorial on the subject. Basically it says "We're owned by Verizon so we win and you lose."
For something like this you would be better off reading the peer reviewed papers
on the subject rather than rhetoric on an Internet forum.
Then again, it might be more important to some people to scare the public with scary factoids than to provide education. That's my observation at least.
TL;DR: Airline pilots have some higher risk of skin cancer but not other cancers. Also additional lifestyle factors are difficult to filter out from sample set.