Funny, but if you had included the next line of the article...
So you get on AOL and you e-mail the thing to 50 of your best friends and so on.
I wouldn't have thought of it as funny anymore. Not to be a bitch, but I wouldn't really like it if "friends" started emailing me SDMI songs of several MB's each and this evil guy wants my friends to do just that. Now, I shouldn't be afraid, I don't have any friends on AOL, anymore...;-)
True. Also, the product that is released by the various Linux distributors often can *legally* be downloaded for free (bandwith can be expensive) and the different parts of the distro they're releasing were already free (beer and speach) before they repackaged them. Two things that don't apply to music distributors.
/.: Bring out your dead! /.: Bring out your dead! /.: Bring out your dead!
SUCK: Here's one -- ninety thousand banner reads. MOZILLA: I'm not dead! /.: What? SUCK: Nothing -- here's my ninety thousand banner reads. MOZILLA: I'm not dead! /.: Here -- he says he's not dead! SUCK: Yes, he is. MOZILLA: I'm not! /.: He isn't. SUCK: Well, he will be soon, he's very ill. MOZILLA: I'm getting better! SUCK: No, you're not -- you'll be stone dead in a moment. /.: Oh, we can't take him like that -- it's against regulations. MOZILLA: I don't want to go in the cart! SUCK: Oh, don't be such a baby. /.: We can't take him... MOZILLA: I feel fine! SUCK: Oh, do us a favor... /.: We can't. SUCK: Well, can you hang around a couple of months? He won't be long. ........
(thanks to Monthy Python and the makers of the original recording)
That list is what is bugging me. Is MS really that arrogant (don't answer!:)? So, if I check the list (Running IE 5.0, not running Outlook on MAPI), I conclude that I'm affected. But how are they going to exploit my Lotus Notes (sorry, I'm at work) here or even my Netscape/Mutt at home? Duh!!! But then again, maybe I missed a line in the article that mentioned you *have* te be running Outlook te be in a position to be affected...
Yes, but the point was that users *might* think that formatting the HD is a good thing. Sometimes it is, when you detect Windows on it, to install OS blablabla;), but normally it is not what you want. The point of the poster you replied to was that the user doesn't need to know that formatting is bad and thus you don't know for sure 1 out of 3 users don't read dialog boxes.
THE difference is that you can run Linux without Konqi/KDE, but you couldn't run Windows without Internet Explorer (as said by MS). That was what the case was about.
What the future will be is the embedding they are doing right now with KDE and Gnome, everything is a component and if you want HTML support in your texteditor, KLABAM! Just embed that HTML component.
Sorry, but I don't really get your point here. So you don't trust the guy who installs OSS software on your computer, but you do trust the guy who installs MS software on your computer? Or do you think because the OSS guy has the source of the program, he (m/f) will put in backdoors so he can get back on you? Don't you think the MS guy has several ways to misconfigure the system in such a way he'll be able te get back in without you ever knowing it and that it'll be even easier to do? It looks pretty obvious you're on the law side of IT, not on the technical side! *ducks and runs*
Damnit, have got to reply. Moderating something "Funny" is supost to give it a +1, isn't it? Than, damn, why did this post receive an "-1 Funny" from me?????????
I think MS should go the way of IBM. IBM has to publish specs for whatever they do, if people could make their own platforms & file formats TRULY compatible with the Microsoft ones, the world would be a much better place.
This would be good, but I wonder how you force a bad guy to do something he doesn't want to do. Oke, you give them a nice penalty, make them pay a loads of money each day they don't follow your rules. The problem is, MS makes soooo much money, the fines will not easily make up for the profits MS gets by keeping the secrets secret.
I'm pretty pessimistic about this, so I'll continue: If MS decides to play 'nice' and documents the specs, who says the docs will contain the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth? They can delay the docs as long as possible so that they'll be obsolete before you get them. I mean, there are so many things MS can do to work against this, how much will you gain by forcing MS to open the specs?
As far as I'm concerned, opening the specs is no end to the iron grip MS has on the market. For that, the market/code changes too fast for the DoJ to stay up to par.
What I think we need to do is educate people on why we think MS is bad news. Just did it to my girlfriend and she understood. It really isn't hard. Use simple language and examples, tell 'm about the Windows crashes and see them stare in disbelieve when you tell them computers weren't made to crash, that stable OS's do exist and that they can work with another OS, that it can be easy. Most importantly, if you convert someone, hold their hands for a little while and make them enthousiastic. We can beat MS ourselves, we don't need the DoJ for that.
PS: By 'beating' I mean 'creating a world in which Joe has a choice which OS to have installed on his new computer'.
The way it is put here, does that mean they'll start fighting the use of junkbuster in the future too? I mean, the result is the same as deeplinking, you avoid the adds!
What I think of this: Like others have stated before me, HTTP_REFERER isn't just there for the cat to play with! (not that that could help them with junkbuster...:)
Oh wat hebben we het fijn, Het is goed Nederlander te zijn. Posten op/. in de eigen taal, Zonder inhoud, geen verhaal. Er is toch niemand die het begrijpt, Hoe ver je ook kijkt. Toch?
Hmmm... Interesting, *very* interesting. Now the question that pops into my head is: Are *you*, being the company Inprise, seriously considering what you are suggesting here?
/me would ask Inprice to mary me if they would...;-)
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I ... *sniff* ... smell ... *sniff* ... a ... *sniff* ... dirty ... *sniff* ... rotten ... *sniff* ... troll, troll, troll!!!
Hehehe, looks like the standard US - Canada thing all over again!
Thimo
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Funny, but if you had included the next line of the article...
;-)
So you get on AOL and you e-mail the thing to 50 of your best friends and so on.
I wouldn't have thought of it as funny anymore. Not to be a bitch, but I wouldn't really like it if "friends" started emailing me SDMI songs of several MB's each and this evil guy wants my friends to do just that. Now, I shouldn't be afraid, I don't have any friends on AOL, anymore...
Thimo
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True. Also, the product that is released by the various Linux distributors often can *legally* be downloaded for free (bandwith can be expensive) and the different parts of the distro they're releasing were already free (beer and speach) before they repackaged them. Two things that don't apply to music distributors.
Thimo
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/.: Bring out your dead!
/.: Bring out your dead!
/.: Bring out your dead!
SUCK: Here's one -- ninety thousand banner reads.
MOZILLA: I'm not dead!
/.: What?
SUCK: Nothing -- here's my ninety thousand banner reads.
MOZILLA: I'm not dead!
/.: Here -- he says he's not dead!
SUCK: Yes, he is.
MOZILLA: I'm not!
/.: He isn't.
SUCK: Well, he will be soon, he's very ill.
MOZILLA: I'm getting better!
SUCK: No, you're not -- you'll be stone dead in a moment.
/.: Oh, we can't take him like that -- it's against regulations.
MOZILLA: I don't want to go in the cart!
SUCK: Oh, don't be such a baby.
/.: We can't take him...
MOZILLA: I feel fine!
SUCK: Oh, do us a favor...
/.: We can't.
SUCK: Well, can you hang around a couple of months? He won't be long.
........
(thanks to Monthy Python and the makers of the original recording)
Thimo
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No! *Don't* ..... touch that heatsink. Now hold your hand under the water for 10 minutes.
Thimo
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That list is what is bugging me. Is MS really that arrogant (don't answer! :)? So, if I check the list (Running IE 5.0, not running Outlook on MAPI), I conclude that I'm affected. But how are they going to exploit my Lotus Notes (sorry, I'm at work) here or even my Netscape/Mutt at home? Duh!!! But then again, maybe I missed a line in the article that mentioned you *have* te be running Outlook te be in a position to be affected...
Thimo
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I've seen the Linux kernel GPF at least once since I've been using it.
I've heard rumors before, but this is the first time I've seen confirmation of the release of MS Linux 2001!
:-)
Thimo
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That puts the phrase "World domination" in a whole new perspective! :-)
Thimo
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Often they even replace the original inlay with a color-copy. To prevent theft of inlays for use with CD-R copies...
Thimo
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Then why are you waisting your time checking the URL's? Naturaly you should have gone for the "First p0st!!!!!".
:-)
Thimo
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FWIW, the phone on the tiny pic is a T28, the bit more expensive, superflat Ericsson.
Thimo
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Or someone will come out with a low-power mobile chip called the "Volxon" (Volks -ks + x + on).
Sounds to me like this would have to be the "Volxwagon".
Thimo
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The point was that people don't read the dialog.
;), but normally it is not what you want. The point of the poster you replied to was that the user doesn't need to know that formatting is bad and thus you don't know for sure 1 out of 3 users don't read dialog boxes.
Yes, but the point was that users *might* think that formatting the HD is a good thing. Sometimes it is, when you detect Windows on it, to install OS blablabla
Thimo
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This is super funny, you _could_ think it was posted on The Union...
Thimo
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2. make World is standard.
Yeah, even God did *that* on the first day!
Thimo
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THE difference is that you can run Linux without Konqi/KDE, but you couldn't run Windows without Internet Explorer (as said by MS). That was what the case was about.
What the future will be is the embedding they are doing right now with KDE and Gnome, everything is a component and if you want HTML support in your texteditor, KLABAM! Just embed that HTML component.
Thimo
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Sorry, but I don't really get your point here. So you don't trust the guy who installs OSS software on your computer, but you do trust the guy who installs MS software on your computer? Or do you think because the OSS guy has the source of the program, he (m/f) will put in backdoors so he can get back on you? Don't you think the MS guy has several ways to misconfigure the system in such a way he'll be able te get back in without you ever knowing it and that it'll be even easier to do? It looks pretty obvious you're on the law side of IT, not on the technical side! *ducks and runs*
Thimo
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Damnit, have got to reply. Moderating something "Funny" is supost to give it a +1, isn't it? Than, damn, why did this post receive an "-1 Funny" from me?????????
*hoping the reply removes the moderation*
Thimo
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Does someone have a bot that searches for "hotgrits" and automatically marks that down as Troll? Or is it simply a lack of sense of humor...
Thimo
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I think MS should go the way of IBM. IBM has to publish specs for whatever they do, if people could make their own platforms & file formats TRULY compatible with the Microsoft ones, the world would be a much better place.
This would be good, but I wonder how you force a bad guy to do something he doesn't want to do. Oke, you give them a nice penalty, make them pay a loads of money each day they don't follow your rules. The problem is, MS makes soooo much money, the fines will not easily make up for the profits MS gets by keeping the secrets secret.
I'm pretty pessimistic about this, so I'll continue: If MS decides to play 'nice' and documents the specs, who says the docs will contain the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth? They can delay the docs as long as possible so that they'll be obsolete before you get them. I mean, there are so many things MS can do to work against this, how much will you gain by forcing MS to open the specs?
As far as I'm concerned, opening the specs is no end to the iron grip MS has on the market. For that, the market/code changes too fast for the DoJ to stay up to par.
What I think we need to do is educate people on why we think MS is bad news. Just did it to my girlfriend and she understood. It really isn't hard. Use simple language and examples, tell 'm about the Windows crashes and see them stare in disbelieve when you tell them computers weren't made to crash, that stable OS's do exist and that they can work with another OS, that it can be easy. Most importantly, if you convert someone, hold their hands for a little while and make them enthousiastic. We can beat MS ourselves, we don't need the DoJ for that.
PS: By 'beating' I mean 'creating a world in which Joe has a choice which OS to have installed on his new computer'.
End of rant...
Thimo
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If so Billy boy is in good hands.
:)
Is he? IIRC the panzertanks lost!
Yes, the Pope was on the wrong side in WW2, but hasn't the Catholic church been like that as far back as we can remember?
Thimo
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The way it is put here, does that mean they'll start fighting the use of junkbuster in the future too? I mean, the result is the same as deeplinking, you avoid the adds!
:)
What I think of this: Like others have stated before me, HTTP_REFERER isn't just there for the cat to play with! (not that that could help them with junkbuster...
Thimo
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Oh wat hebben we het fijn, /. in de eigen taal,
Het is goed Nederlander te zijn.
Posten op
Zonder inhoud, geen verhaal.
Er is toch niemand die het begrijpt,
Hoe ver je ook kijkt.
Toch?
Thimo
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It's not the speed of your processor, it's how you use it.
That's kinda like what my girlfriend tries to tell me when I'm depressed...
Thimo
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Hmmm... Interesting, *very* interesting. Now the question that pops into my head is: Are *you*, being the company Inprise, seriously considering what you are suggesting here?
;-)
/me would ask Inprice to mary me if they would...
Thimo
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