we are a beautiful melting pot of all cultures. Of course our culture is not all good, but what culture is?
I don't really belive in the melting pot, but say for sake of argument it exists. Everything will melt down into a single color/flavor/texture.
What if the result looks/tastes/feels like crap? Would it be worth then it to distill all culture into a single culture?
The way I look at it, if you distill everything down to the lowest common denominator, you will miss out on a lot. It is like food: you are hungry for some chicken. Would you rather be served a bland, relatively plain boiled piece of chicken by itself or a savory Chinese chicken dish loaded with vegatables and chiles?
As a Chicano I would say: "extra chiles, please!" -- You think being a MIB is all voodoo mind control? You should see the paperwork!
I am soooo pissed off at all of those people out there that tie their language to their culture and then their culture to their identity. I see this the most in chicano and french writing. This does not have ANY positive effects.
Maybe you don't see any positive effects, but it helps us Chicanos cope with the fact that our land was stolen from us and now it is our language and culture that you are trying to steal from us. What is so great about YOUR language and culture that you advocate me giving up my language and culture?
All this does is make people close-minded and against change all because they want to "preserver their culture."
To that I say bullshit! I am not about to cast off my culture and language and accept yours instead, for that only serves to "preserve YOUR culture"...
We aren't saying, you must give up all of your holidays, cultural events, history and ancestry.
That is exactly the opposite of the message we are receiving. Remember "Manifest Destiny"? Remember "the melting pot"? The American White man's message has always been "my culture is superior to yours, abandon your culture and adopt mine!"
In reality, Chicano culture is about INCLUSION, not EXCLUSION. I look at the newspaper and when I see a White, Black and Asian marrying a Chicano I say "Yay, another Chicano joins the flock". Of course their children will be Chicanos, but more importantly the person marrying one becomes one too because they are wholeheartedly accepted into our community. Marrying outside of our people only makes our people stronger, for we can take new ideas from the outside and adapt them to our needs.
I don't understand why White people have to be scared of the fact that we have two cultures instead of one. Maybe because they can't control us as easily? Anyway, the price of admission is low: all you have to do to understand us is learn a little Spanish. (And once you do you will finally understand when we speak Spanish in front of you that we ARE making fun of you behind your back!:-) -- You think being a MIB is all voodoo mind control? You should see the paperwork!
I'm not an econ or politics guy so I don't know why the economies of Spainish speaking countries aren't doing so well. Could it be culture? I think corruption of the governments comes into play here too.
Many Central and South American countries have a history of authoritiarism, where a strong man backed by the army runs the country. Usually that person will try to control the economy and fail miserably. The rise of democratic governments should lead these countries to adopt economic reforms, but The big problem is that those reforms are usually painful and the army is not always willing to wait long enough for results. They end up overthrowing the democratically elected government in favor of totalitarian dictatorships leading to more economic problems. It is a vicious cycle that needs to be broken... -- You think being a MIB is all voodoo mind control? You should see the paperwork!
So is spanish being destroyed? -- well in the United States maybe, but I think the rest of the Spanish speaking world is safe.
I actually think the inverse it true. Here in the US Spanish (yes it really is called Spanglish) must not only deal with standard English, but also Black English (the much maligned Ebonics), and with all different types of Asian and European languages. This tension will cause US Spanish to continue to change and grow.
Spanish as used by other countries will not change as much and will always have some low-level standard (like the Spanish used by Spanish-language television) but compared to US Spanish they will sound quaintly provincial...
Once Chicanos realize their potential political and economic strength, they will have more influence on the language worldwide... -- You think being a MIB is all voodoo mind control? You should see the paperwork!
This, of course, is only true if the alternative is for everyone to know both Spanish and English, but that is even more unlikely than everyone knowing English...
I wouldn't bet the bank on that. Chicanos are growing by leaps and bounds, and soon California and Texas will be ours. Our goal is total domination of the US...
Beware of the Chicanos, the MICROSOFT of ethnic groups!:-> -- You think being a MIB is all voodoo mind control? You should see the paperwork!
If you want more Spanish on internet sites & in tech jargon, then have more Spanish speaking people &/or companies come up with devices & give them Spanish names & slowly let it infiltrate into mainstream tech jargon.
You have to remember that these guys are academics, who are interested in the PURITY of the language, so they are somewhat removed from most speakers of that language. I am sure they are equally aghast at words like "enchorito" which sounds like it came from the fevered mind of a Taco Hell market-droid on acid!
If you *live* in the U.S. you *NEED* to learn English, not expect Americans to learn Spanish, Japanese, French, German, Italian, Hebrew, etc...
Why? Is the average American so much dumber than the average European? Or many Canadians and Latin Americans? Or me?:-> I think the reason more Americans don't learn other languages is sheer intellectual laziness...
We simply cannot learn that many languages to accomodate so many foreign cultures, but the immigrants can afford to learn one language if they choose to live here!
Hmmm.... I've heard those words somewhere before... Rush? Pat? Adolph?
When you move to another country, they aren't required to adapt to you at all, but if you want to have *ANY* hope of fitting in & making a life for yourself, you *MUST* learn at least their language & a lot of their customs (as long as said customs don't compromise your values).
So as long as I learn English I don't have to accept any American values that conflict with my polygamous cannibalism? Cool!
And for any who might be lame enough to say it, *NO*, learning a new language is not compromising values.
Is true if you are an immigrant but apparently it isn't for those lucky enough to be born in the US.
If affirmative action was in vogue, maybe Intel would hire lots of Latinos and have them design chips. Maybe then they could name some of the discoveries and products in Spanish.
The new Intel "Caliente" -- Ouch, Hot, Don't Touch! There's truth in marketing for you!:->
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He showed that one man and a web page really can expose a sex offender for what he is, even if he's the president
Bill and Monica were consenting adults who were denied their right to privacy by the right-wing conspiracy in concert with their lapdog, the mainstream media. I really don't see how Bill Clinton's sex life is anyone else's business but Bill's and Hillary's. As long the country is at peace and the economy is strong then Bill can have wild sex orgies with hookers for all I care...
Republicans keep insisting that they are not tax-and-spenders, yet it wasn't the "tax-and-spend" Democrats who spent 70+ million dollars of tax money on an bogus "investigation" that did not come up with anything substantive on the President and First Lady...
Ya know, prior to blindly following the left-wing herd
is not any different than blindly following the right-wing herd yelling "Ditto!".
Idiot...
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We find that Windows will continue consolidate its position as the most stable GUI operating system.
Nice troll! Using stable and Microsoft in the same sentence with a straight face -> score: 9.5. You only lost troll points by hiding it in a post that has content... -- You think being a MIB is all voodoo mind control? You should see the paperwork!
As a former sysadmin/support person for several big companies, I can tell you that people installing random, unapproved stuff
on their PC's is a major source of support calls.
Two words: diskless workstations... -- You think being a MIB is all voodoo mind control? You should see the paperwork!
This illustrated to me the "network effect". This seems to be largely what drives MS sales of Office and to a degree windows.
I thought the court called it"monopolistic behavior".:->
You seem to forget that many people don't even load Windows/Office. They get it preloaded on their PCs... -- You think being a MIB is all voodoo mind control? You should see the paperwork!
One company policy states that you cannot send DOC files as attachments. The email server bounces all incoming/outgoing messages with DOC files.
Someone hit that mail admin with a clue stick. Bouncing documents with DOC attachements is really stupid when all you need to do is strip out the offending attachment. Let me guess, is this person an MCSE running Exchange? -- You think being a MIB is all voodoo mind control? You should see the paperwork!
I am very tired of people complaining that they are forced into using/upgradign to MS software and newer versions. If you dont want to, suck it, dont upgrade/use MS software, an accept the consequences.
And I tired of people who complain about my complaining!:->
Seriously dude, as someone who runs a student-oriented website you should have a little more empathy for students. I am taking computer classes at Houston Community College and I had to buy Win98, Office 97 and Access 2000. Most students usually do not have a lot of money, and having to give over $500 to Bill Gates just so that I can pass a few classes is a bit much.
The consequences are failing the class. Are you saying that I should not take ANY computer classes at HCC if I an not willing to pay tribute to Chairman Bill? And if I do sign up for classes, I should be prepared to fail them because I do not want to make the world's richest man a little richer?
I did not buy Visual Basic, preferring to use the "Learning Edition" that came with the book. Bad move, as the "Learning Edition" does not come with help files or documentation, which help a lot when you are trying to learn a programming language. Of course, much of the material is on Microsoft's website, but tell that to my 56K modem!
Luckily I could use gcc for my C++ class, but having to teach the instructor stuff about Linux sucks, especially when this same instructor teaches a UNIX class that uses Linux! Of course most of the instructors are Microsoft "certified" so they can teach you how to pass the certification exams but not much else. To tell you the truth, I probably would not be taking courses at HCC if I didn't get free tuition and fees there...
P.S. what are studying? Obviously not English, as your spelling and grammar are atrocious! Try previewing your posts and try to remember that Merriam-Webster is your friend... -- You think being a MIB is all voodoo mind control? You should see the paperwork!
That's not a good example either: he didn't die, he was just a person wrongly convicted and sentenced to jail, then let out.
Wrongly sentenced to DEATH due to racist cops working hand in hand with racist prosecutors. Let out five days before he would have been wrongly executed...
That's an example of a flawed system "working".
That is the understatment of the year! If the system truly "worked", the cops would have arrested the right persons and sent them to death row. If the system is capable of sending the wrong man to death row solely because of his skin color, then the system is not flawed, but broken!
Oh to have a few more courageous Republicans like Governor Ryan of Illinois, who when confronted with a system that is obviously broken takes steps to fix it. George W. Bush would rather do the politically expedient thing and kill an innocent person than to stand in the way of "justice"
But I think it is a "minority thing" as most White people do not seem to notice that anything is wrong and constantly defend the police even as Blacks and Latinos complain of police brutality. The corruption of the LAPD Rampart divison did happen, didn't it? Members of the NYPD did shove a broomstick up the rectum of a black man, and assassinate another as he reached for his wallet, didn't they?
Here in Houston Pedro Oregon was shot 12 times (9 times in the back) during a botched drug raid where no drugs were found, yet the cops involved got off scot-free. Why don't White people care? I guess it is hard to give a rat's ass when it isn't your ox that is being gored... -- You think being a MIB is all voodoo mind control? You should see the paperwork!
As for Exchange/Outlook virii, if you got hit with them it's one of three reasons:
Actually there is only ONE reason: you are using Exchange and Outlook in the first place!:-> -- You think being a MIB is all voodoo mind control? You should see the paperwork!
The protesters talked quite a bit about "freedom" and liberty, but apparently they believe that these values only apply to people that believe the same things that they do.
Republicans apparently do the same thing to those who don't agree with them. If the cops in Philly hadn't resorted to Gestapo tactics then the press would have ignored the protesters. When the cops came in busting heads it played right into the hands of the protestors.
It seems the Man won the battle (short-term tactical victory) but lost the war (long-term strategic defeat)... -- You think being a MIB is all voodoo mind control? You should see the paperwork!
Here's a look at Graham from a different perspective.
Granted, Gray Graham was a piece of walking scum that probably would have been executed later on LEGALLY (i.e., without having to resort to prosecutorial dirty tricks and an unreliable eyewitness) due to his extensive criminal history, so he really is not the best person to bring up when discussing the death penalty...
But when you look at the case of Clarence Brandley you see a pattern of abuse by the Texas "justice" system. To wit:
Clarence Brandley, a janitor at a Texas school, was convicted in 1980 of the rape and murder of a young [White] girl. When police arrived at the high school, according to a 1998 report in Playboy, an officer told the janitors who had found the body: "One of you two is going to hang for this." Looking at Brandley, the cop continued, "Since you're the nigger, you're elected."
Six years later - nine days before Brandley was slated to die -
another janitor revealed that two [White] coworkers had committed
the murder. Evidence showed prosecutors had suppressed
evidence and witnesses had lied. It took another four years,
but Brandley finally won his freedom.Rest of article
and
Mr. Brandley was freed five days before his death chamber date after 10
years on death row. He had been sentenced to death for the rape and
strangling death of a 16-year-old [White] high school girl north of Houston, despite
the reddish-blond hair and type-A blood investigators found. Mr. Brandley
has brown hair and type-O blood. Rest of article
Ahh... TEX-ASS, there is no place like it on earth!!! -- You think being a MIB is all voodoo mind control? You should see the paperwork!
In other words, it was an act of Treason against the British government, and not a simple protest.
But it WAS an act of protest, n'est pas?
To put it more basically the difference between a protest and a riot is that in a protest no laws are broken.
"I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind
you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!"
- Barry Goldwater.
Part of the reason that I have no respect for people like "Shapeshifter" is that he deliberately is blurring the lines between riot and protest, and then he expects the law to be on his side.
Where are you getting rioting from? The city of Philadelphia (aka "the city of brotherly love" LOL!) did not accuse the Shapeshifter of rioting. According to the Philadelpha Inquirer article linked above:
"McGuckin, who was found guilty of disorderly conduct and a misdemeanor charge of obstructing a highway, was sentenced to three months' probation.
Disorderly conduct != rioting. Obstructing a highway != rioting.
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You have the right to remain silent while we beat the shit out of you. You have the right to a fair trial before a politically-biased judge and a randomly selected jury of morons. You have the right to spend the rest of your life taking it up the ass from murderers and drug kingpins.
Ok. If that is what you belive please post your address so we can use our "freedom of expression" on YOUR properity.
Hmmm... all I did is try to refute your obviously simplistic hypothesis. You said that protest does not "usually" involve destruction of property. I provided a historical counter-example where it did.
I did not say destruction of property was O.K., only that it is possible in a protest (also see the WTO protests in Seattle).
Don't get your panties in a bunch! If you take offense because you think you have been misinterpeted, then maybe next time you will take extra care to CLEARLY say what you mean. That way people will understand what YOU are trying to say, not what WE think you are trying to say... -- You think being a MIB is all voodoo mind control? You should see the paperwork!
At a PROTEST you usually don't DESTROY other peoples properity!!!!
You obviously weren't paying attention in History class. The Boston Tea Party easily refutes your assertion... -- You think being a MIB is all voodoo mind control? You should see the paperwork!
He sez as he chomps down on an e-coli infested hamburger as he personally defends his property from the Red Chinese... -- You think being a MIB is all voodoo mind control? You should see the paperwork!
It's the easiest setting to change in IE. If there's people who don't know how to change this then they should do the world a favor and kindly throw themselves under a train.
Nahhh... they should all move to Palm Beach, Florida! -- You think being a MIB is all voodoo mind control? You should see the paperwork!
O.K., go ahead and defend the idiot son of one of the worst presidents we have ever had. He has been one of the worst governors we have ever had (and Texas has had a lot of BAD Governors). Also, as Governor of Texas he has authorized arresting protestors. Slashdot says it is FOR free speech so I don't see where the problem is.
You just call it "Slashthink" because you cannot conceive that different people have different viewpoints than the narrow one you agree with. If you want a website that will agree with your "viewpoint" Slashdot is not it. Try this one --> Koalition for Konservative Kaucasians (a sanitized website whose intended audience is closet neo-Nazi's, not the overt kind). -- You think being a MIB is all voodoo mind control? You should see the paperwork!
I did too, the only problem is that there wasn't enough T&A in it. Now if Costner had sailed on a ship with ten hot, half-naked Playmates then Waterworld could have been a contender! -- You think being a MIB is all voodoo mind control? You should see the paperwork!
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What if the result looks/tastes/feels like crap? Would it be worth then it to distill all culture into a single culture?
The way I look at it, if you distill everything down to the lowest common denominator, you will miss out on a lot. It is like food: you are hungry for some chicken. Would you rather be served a bland, relatively plain boiled piece of chicken by itself or a savory Chinese chicken dish loaded with vegatables and chiles?
As a Chicano I would say: "extra chiles, please!"
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You think being a MIB is all voodoo mind control? You should see the paperwork!
In reality, Chicano culture is about INCLUSION, not EXCLUSION. I look at the newspaper and when I see a White, Black and Asian marrying a Chicano I say "Yay, another Chicano joins the flock". Of course their children will be Chicanos, but more importantly the person marrying one becomes one too because they are wholeheartedly accepted into our community. Marrying outside of our people only makes our people stronger, for we can take new ideas from the outside and adapt them to our needs.
I don't understand why White people have to be scared of the fact that we have two cultures instead of one. Maybe because they can't control us as easily? Anyway, the price of admission is low: all you have to do to understand us is learn a little Spanish. (And once you do you will finally understand when we speak Spanish in front of you that we ARE making fun of you behind your back!
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You think being a MIB is all voodoo mind control? You should see the paperwork!
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You think being a MIB is all voodoo mind control? You should see the paperwork!
Spanish as used by other countries will not change as much and will always have some low-level standard (like the Spanish used by Spanish-language television) but compared to US Spanish they will sound quaintly provincial...
Once Chicanos realize their potential political and economic strength, they will have more influence on the language worldwide...
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You think being a MIB is all voodoo mind control? You should see the paperwork!
Beware of the Chicanos, the MICROSOFT of ethnic groups!
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You think being a MIB is all voodoo mind control? You should see the paperwork!
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You think being a MIB is all voodoo mind control? You should see the paperwork!
You DO know that there is no offical language in the US, don't you? You do know that the current de facto language de jour (English) may not remain the one in the future? You do know that we Chicanos are breeding like rabbits? You do know that we are sneaking all of our cousins across the Rio Grande?
If affirmative action was in vogue, maybe Intel would hire lots of Latinos and have them design chips. Maybe then they could name some of the discoveries and products in Spanish.
The new Intel "Caliente" -- Ouch, Hot, Don't Touch! There's truth in marketing for you!
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Republicans keep insisting that they are not tax-and-spenders, yet it wasn't the "tax-and-spend" Democrats who spent 70+ million dollars of tax money on an bogus "investigation" that did not come up with anything substantive on the President and First Lady... is not any different than blindly following the right-wing herd yelling "Ditto!".
Idiot...
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You think being a MIB is all voodoo mind control? You should see the paperwork!
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You think being a MIB is all voodoo mind control? You should see the paperwork!
You seem to forget that many people don't even load Windows/Office. They get it preloaded on their PCs...
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You think being a MIB is all voodoo mind control? You should see the paperwork!
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You think being a MIB is all voodoo mind control? You should see the paperwork!
Seriously dude, as someone who runs a student-oriented website you should have a little more empathy for students. I am taking computer classes at Houston Community College and I had to buy Win98, Office 97 and Access 2000. Most students usually do not have a lot of money, and having to give over $500 to Bill Gates just so that I can pass a few classes is a bit much.
The consequences are failing the class. Are you saying that I should not take ANY computer classes at HCC if I an not willing to pay tribute to Chairman Bill? And if I do sign up for classes, I should be prepared to fail them because I do not want to make the world's richest man a little richer?
I did not buy Visual Basic, preferring to use the "Learning Edition" that came with the book. Bad move, as the "Learning Edition" does not come with help files or documentation, which help a lot when you are trying to learn a programming language. Of course, much of the material is on Microsoft's website, but tell that to my 56K modem!
Luckily I could use gcc for my C++ class, but having to teach the instructor stuff about Linux sucks, especially when this same instructor teaches a UNIX class that uses Linux! Of course most of the instructors are Microsoft "certified" so they can teach you how to pass the certification exams but not much else. To tell you the truth, I probably would not be taking courses at HCC if I didn't get free tuition and fees there...
P.S. what are studying? Obviously not English, as your spelling and grammar are atrocious! Try previewing your posts and try to remember that Merriam-Webster is your friend...
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Oh to have a few more courageous Republicans like Governor Ryan of Illinois, who when confronted with a system that is obviously broken takes steps to fix it. George W. Bush would rather do the politically expedient thing and kill an innocent person than to stand in the way of "justice"
But I think it is a "minority thing" as most White people do not seem to notice that anything is wrong and constantly defend the police even as Blacks and Latinos complain of police brutality. The corruption of the LAPD Rampart divison did happen, didn't it? Members of the NYPD did shove a broomstick up the rectum of a black man, and assassinate another as he reached for his wallet, didn't they?
Here in Houston Pedro Oregon was shot 12 times (9 times in the back) during a botched drug raid where no drugs were found, yet the cops involved got off scot-free. Why don't White people care? I guess it is hard to give a rat's ass when it isn't your ox that is being gored...
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You think being a MIB is all voodoo mind control? You should see the paperwork!
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You think being a MIB is all voodoo mind control? You should see the paperwork!
It seems the Man won the battle (short-term tactical victory) but lost the war (long-term strategic defeat)...
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But when you look at the case of Clarence Brandley you see a pattern of abuse by the Texas "justice" system. To wit: and Ahh... TEX-ASS, there is no place like it on earth!!!
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You think being a MIB is all voodoo mind control? You should see the paperwork!
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You think being a MIB is all voodoo mind control? You should see the paperwork!
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You think being a MIB is all voodoo mind control? You should see the paperwork!
I did not say destruction of property was O.K., only that it is possible in a protest (also see the WTO protests in Seattle).
Don't get your panties in a bunch! If you take offense because you think you have been misinterpeted, then maybe next time you will take extra care to CLEARLY say what you mean. That way people will understand what YOU are trying to say, not what WE think you are trying to say...
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You think being a MIB is all voodoo mind control? You should see the paperwork!
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You think being a MIB is all voodoo mind control? You should see the paperwork!
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You think being a MIB is all voodoo mind control? You should see the paperwork!
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You think being a MIB is all voodoo mind control? You should see the paperwork!
You just call it "Slashthink" because you cannot conceive that different people have different viewpoints than the narrow one you agree with. If you want a website that will agree with your "viewpoint" Slashdot is not it. Try this one --> Koalition for Konservative Kaucasians (a sanitized website whose intended audience is closet neo-Nazi's, not the overt kind).
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You think being a MIB is all voodoo mind control? You should see the paperwork!
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You think being a MIB is all voodoo mind control? You should see the paperwork!