As for #1, they cannot claim damages for continued infringement after they discovered it and had opportunity to inform those doing the infringement. IANAL, but this is in the basic first year law classes. If you don't take reasonable actions to mitigate the damages, you can't claim the damage that is caused by your own inaction.
If they release the code and the kernel is fixed tomorrow, their (current) case will not have changed at all. If they have evidence of infringement on their copyrights (or whatever they're really claiming), then they have a case. Actions they make that cause the infringement to stop will only make them look more reasonable in a court room.
For all that can be said of the US justice system, between relatively equal opponents, it is still a sane system.
I'm not feeling good about the people who are going to lose on this, but I had quite a bit of it when it was still Caldera (bought for less than $2) and unloaded all of it at $21 even. I'm feeling good about that. Maybe a little guilty... nah!
Actually, the onboard diagnostics is not the entirety of the onboard computer. ODB-II just describes an interface for accessing stored codes and realtime data. The vehicle's onboard computers can be much more extensive than just what ODB-II requires.
Usually, especially on newer cars, ODB-II is just kept on as a legacy system (the law requires it). The vehicle's computer stores its information in whatever way it decides and just makes available over ODB-II what it legally has to. Often, to retrieve specific information or test/use certain systems, you have to use a scanner/interface particular to the make or even model or the car (depending on what onboard system or network they use).
ODB-II does have freeze frame memory that can be triggered by different stimuli (including air bag deployment), though. Rereading what you wrote, I think that's all that you were trying to say. I guess I was just trying to assert that ODB-II isn't the only or even main computer in the car, it's just for diagnosis. It's also showing its age.
And of course your Congress just sits there with their thumb up their ass not making that anti-competitive practice illegal.
Now I'm not too fond of the US in most cases, but I don't see how the US government making more stupid laws is going to somehow make things better. By US law, the only case where a company needs to be forced to act competitively is when they're in a monopoly position. Otherwise, who cares? If you don't like Apple's way of selling their products, buy something else.
If you don't like the way Jeep sells their parts, buy a different car. Jeep is by no means a monopoly. So you prefer to keep your Jeep? Well, did you do your research first and make a sound decision in choosing Jeep? No? Well, that's no reason to demand a foreign government to make silly laws to cater to your selfish whims.
There are other hard disk MP3 players on the market. Quite a few actually. So you prefer the iPod, fine. You pay the price they set for the product they offer. It would be collusion if all MP3 players sold at the same price.
If a company decides to set a price floor for its resellers, that's perfectly legit. If companies decide that all products will be sold at the same price, that's (possibly) collusion.
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Maybe I'm missing something here, but it seems like you're saying the best way to pas a lie detector test is to tell the truth!
Actually, I see what you're saying, but that was my first impression. Ironically, that's pretty true. If you can lie in the fashion as you tell the truth without getting bothered about it, it will be impossible to tell the difference. If you're scared, it's almost impossible not to give yourself away. You don't need a machine to tell if a scared person is lying, but as a parent up there said, the machine itself provides a good source of fear.
Yeah,
I've seen a few that have an optional "check it out to be sure it works before it ships" option for like $5. If you don't pay it, they don't even guarantee it wont be DOA. I always assumed that if you didn't pay it they'd send you a known bad one to try and recoup what they lost on it. Seeing that item under the order makes me leave their site right away.
This being an interesting and peaceful conversation, I'm always surprised that people waste their mod points on stuff like this. Modding down is pretty boring, especially 'Offtopic'
Seriously, though, I agree with the studies, but I feel that loss of accuracy (recorded votes corresponding to actual votes) isn't terribly detrimental except in very close races. As long as there isn't some vast conspiracy working very efficiently, the results will be inaccurate but not consistantly skewed in any one direction.
I feel that inaccuracies such as these will overall be less harmful than computer counted extremely accurate systems that are in the control of only a few hands.
It seems that we're both in favor of a transparent system, I'm just thinking that a vast slow dinosaur of a system (hand counting), as inaccurate as it may be, is not as easily hijacted as the proposed (and probably inevitably accepted) computer voting machines.
In their current form, computer voting systems can never be transparent. The process of making them transparent would cause them to lose all of the benefits that they are sought after for.
Cheers
If Microsoft uses DRM in such a way that it pisses ppl off like that, do you really think ppl will just take it and not switch to alternatives?
Sadly enough, I do. Admittedly Win 2000/XP doesn't crash that much, but remember pretty much everything before that. I have little experiece with Apple, but I personally have never seen one crash (I heard stories, though). I've been using Linux on all of my personal computers for many years now and I've never had it crash on me (hardware failures aside).
This isn't meant to be an anti-MS troll, but there wasn't a mass exodus to Macs (Linux not ready for average user back then...) to escape these troubles.
If MSs DRM implementation pisses people off, they'll just shout and the computer and keep on using it. As cliche as it sounds, my friends and family were genuinely stunned when they heard that my computer had never crashed. They thought that that's just what computers did. They had no idea that this wasn't that common outside of Windows.
The scary thing is that I'm not sure anymore whether this is a joke or not. It's weird when saying anything even remotely critical of the government or policy (or the prez) gets people looking at you with that "you're a terrorist" look in their eyes.
Admittedly, the parent of the parent was talking about commiting an illegal act that would really only deprive the people of a county (or part thereof) the place to express their vote. This is arguable, but not the point of my post.
What is needed is a way to remove humans from the voting process entirely.
Because this is impossible (humans will need to instruct the machine that will replace them), the system needs to be completely transparent to all (or a large number of) humans. Lessening the number of humans involved will just increase the probability of fraud. Hundreds of thousands of people with different goals (even if they are all bent on rigging the election) will have less of a total impact than one programmer (even among a small team) who writes software for a machine than counts all of the votes in the country.
What you are asking for is impossible (to remove ALL humans from the counting process), so your argument is wrong. Inaccurate results are not as much a danger as accurate-then-altered results.
I'm not taking either side of this, but your "yeah, yeah, yeah..." handwaving isn't doing much for your argument here. Interesting topic deserves interesting discussion... Entertain me!;)
That doesn't even make sense. 4 digit PINs are an extra, secret 4 digits to be used in addition to the 16 or so digit account number. The PIN is for authentication, not for identification.
Using the fingerprint for authentication (swipe card, press button with finger) would solve that problem. It wouldn't solve the problem that using easily obtained (snip) or forged biometrics that are unchangable and permanently tied to an individual is a horrible security practice.
If anything, the part might be harder to get a hold of.
That's exactly the issue. Old parts are warehoused until they run out and have to be either obtained from another warehouse or manufactured again. Retooling an assembly line for a small amount of items is not cheap. That cost gets pushed to the customer.
The population depending on it is expanding, however.
They demand it 24/7.
At the risk of sounding like a jackass, fuck them. I realize that I'm posting this from an ineffiecient electrical device, but I am working very hard to curb my energy consumption. When I get more money, I'll start collecting my own. I am not a complete hypocrite.
But, our current rate of energy consumption is not sustainable. They're going to be pissed off, well tough shit. This whole fucking universe is not here so that they they can drive their SUV around in stop and go traffic and consume as much electricity as they want. People turning their backs on the problem and throwing hissy-fits isn't going to make the problem go away. We need to be more responsible with our energy consumption, not just bitch about our hair dries and 50" Plasma TVs not working.
I'm still wondering about the idea of large orbital solar panels. The collected energy could be beamed down to the earth. There's a lot of lost energy in all of these conversions, but it would still be energy added to the system (that is earth) that wasn't there before.
Of course, we would have to dissipate that extra energy somehow, or cook ourselves eventually. Heavy test week, so I wont do the math now (though I will do it soon):
1. How large of a panel to meet the US's needs, the world's
2. Assuming some average effeciency for energy use on Earth (electric cars, electronics, heating/cooling systems, etc), how much extra heat is generated with said panel
3. ways to dissipate this extra heat
This we could leave the oil/coal/uranium in the ground. There is no lost real estate to traditional solar farms.
The details of the device could be worked out, I see no need to freak out about a stray microwave beam cooking a city. A project of this size is something that we can tackle safely with current technology (if our economy will support it). The only seriously problematic area is dissipating the extra heat generated.
I think that he was saying that if the copyright holder finds the work to be of value, he must maintain the information (after the first 20 years). If the copyright holder doesn't find the work to be of value, then the public (if they find it to be of value) maintains the information.
Easy as that. No unnecessary demands on anybody. Everybody wins.
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If they release the code and the kernel is fixed tomorrow, their (current) case will not have changed at all. If they have evidence of infringement on their copyrights (or whatever they're really claiming), then they have a case. Actions they make that cause the infringement to stop will only make them look more reasonable in a court room.
For all that can be said of the US justice system, between relatively equal opponents, it is still a sane system.
I'm not feeling good about the people who are going to lose on this, but I had quite a bit of it when it was still Caldera (bought for less than $2) and unloaded all of it at $21 even. I'm feeling good about that. Maybe a little guilty... nah!
Thanks! I really needed coffee all over my lap!
That's only while they're far away from the object. Once they get somewhat close, the only control they see is the horn!
Usually, especially on newer cars, ODB-II is just kept on as a legacy system (the law requires it). The vehicle's computer stores its information in whatever way it decides and just makes available over ODB-II what it legally has to. Often, to retrieve specific information or test/use certain systems, you have to use a scanner/interface particular to the make or even model or the car (depending on what onboard system or network they use).
ODB-II does have freeze frame memory that can be triggered by different stimuli (including air bag deployment), though. Rereading what you wrote, I think that's all that you were trying to say. I guess I was just trying to assert that ODB-II isn't the only or even main computer in the car, it's just for diagnosis. It's also showing its age.
Now I'm not too fond of the US in most cases, but I don't see how the US government making more stupid laws is going to somehow make things better. By US law, the only case where a company needs to be forced to act competitively is when they're in a monopoly position. Otherwise, who cares? If you don't like Apple's way of selling their products, buy something else.
If you don't like the way Jeep sells their parts, buy a different car. Jeep is by no means a monopoly. So you prefer to keep your Jeep? Well, did you do your research first and make a sound decision in choosing Jeep? No? Well, that's no reason to demand a foreign government to make silly laws to cater to your selfish whims.
Grow up.
Ummm, I'd also go so far as to say that Apple isn't dealing with antitrust laws here.
There are other hard disk MP3 players on the market. Quite a few actually. So you prefer the iPod, fine. You pay the price they set for the product they offer. It would be collusion if all MP3 players sold at the same price.
If a company decides to set a price floor for its resellers, that's perfectly legit. If companies decide that all products will be sold at the same price, that's (possibly) collusion.
For reference sake:
collusion (n): A secret agreement between two or more parties for a fraudulent, illegal, or deceitful purpose.
It takes two to collude!
Actually, he meant per mile.
Actually, I see what you're saying, but that was my first impression. Ironically, that's pretty true. If you can lie in the fashion as you tell the truth without getting bothered about it, it will be impossible to tell the difference. If you're scared, it's almost impossible not to give yourself away. You don't need a machine to tell if a scared person is lying, but as a parent up there said, the machine itself provides a good source of fear.
Yeah, I've seen a few that have an optional "check it out to be sure it works before it ships" option for like $5. If you don't pay it, they don't even guarantee it wont be DOA. I always assumed that if you didn't pay it they'd send you a known bad one to try and recoup what they lost on it. Seeing that item under the order makes me leave their site right away.
This being an interesting and peaceful conversation, I'm always surprised that people waste their mod points on stuff like this. Modding down is pretty boring, especially 'Offtopic'
Whoosh is the sound of jokes flying over my head after too little sleep.
Seriously, though, I agree with the studies, but I feel that loss of accuracy (recorded votes corresponding to actual votes) isn't terribly detrimental except in very close races. As long as there isn't some vast conspiracy working very efficiently, the results will be inaccurate but not consistantly skewed in any one direction.
I feel that inaccuracies such as these will overall be less harmful than computer counted extremely accurate systems that are in the control of only a few hands.
It seems that we're both in favor of a transparent system, I'm just thinking that a vast slow dinosaur of a system (hand counting), as inaccurate as it may be, is not as easily hijacted as the proposed (and probably inevitably accepted) computer voting machines.
In their current form, computer voting systems can never be transparent. The process of making them transparent would cause them to lose all of the benefits that they are sought after for. Cheers
Sadly enough, I do. Admittedly Win 2000/XP doesn't crash that much, but remember pretty much everything before that. I have little experiece with Apple, but I personally have never seen one crash (I heard stories, though). I've been using Linux on all of my personal computers for many years now and I've never had it crash on me (hardware failures aside).
This isn't meant to be an anti-MS troll, but there wasn't a mass exodus to Macs (Linux not ready for average user back then...) to escape these troubles.
If MSs DRM implementation pisses people off, they'll just shout and the computer and keep on using it. As cliche as it sounds, my friends and family were genuinely stunned when they heard that my computer had never crashed. They thought that that's just what computers did. They had no idea that this wasn't that common outside of Windows.
The scary thing is that I'm not sure anymore whether this is a joke or not. It's weird when saying anything even remotely critical of the government or policy (or the prez) gets people looking at you with that "you're a terrorist" look in their eyes.
Admittedly, the parent of the parent was talking about commiting an illegal act that would really only deprive the people of a county (or part thereof) the place to express their vote. This is arguable, but not the point of my post.
Because this is impossible (humans will need to instruct the machine that will replace them), the system needs to be completely transparent to all (or a large number of) humans. Lessening the number of humans involved will just increase the probability of fraud. Hundreds of thousands of people with different goals (even if they are all bent on rigging the election) will have less of a total impact than one programmer (even among a small team) who writes software for a machine than counts all of the votes in the country.
What you are asking for is impossible (to remove ALL humans from the counting process), so your argument is wrong. Inaccurate results are not as much a danger as accurate-then-altered results.
I'm not taking either side of this, but your "yeah, yeah, yeah..." handwaving isn't doing much for your argument here. Interesting topic deserves interesting discussion... Entertain me! ;)
Using the fingerprint for authentication (swipe card, press button with finger) would solve that problem. It wouldn't solve the problem that using easily obtained (snip) or forged biometrics that are unchangable and permanently tied to an individual is a horrible security practice.
That's great! Thanks for the first good laugh of the day. (Yes, a dull day...)
That's exactly the issue. Old parts are warehoused until they run out and have to be either obtained from another warehouse or manufactured again. Retooling an assembly line for a small amount of items is not cheap. That cost gets pushed to the customer.
But, our current rate of energy consumption is not sustainable. They're going to be pissed off, well tough shit. This whole fucking universe is not here so that they they can drive their SUV around in stop and go traffic and consume as much electricity as they want. People turning their backs on the problem and throwing hissy-fits isn't going to make the problem go away. We need to be more responsible with our energy consumption, not just bitch about our hair dries and 50" Plasma TVs not working.
Of course, we would have to dissipate that extra energy somehow, or cook ourselves eventually. Heavy test week, so I wont do the math now (though I will do it soon):
1. How large of a panel to meet the US's needs, the world's
2. Assuming some average effeciency for energy use on Earth (electric cars, electronics, heating/cooling systems, etc), how much extra heat is generated with said panel
3. ways to dissipate this extra heat
This we could leave the oil/coal/uranium in the ground. There is no lost real estate to traditional solar farms.
The details of the device could be worked out, I see no need to freak out about a stray microwave beam cooking a city. A project of this size is something that we can tackle safely with current technology (if our economy will support it). The only seriously problematic area is dissipating the extra heat generated.
Something to think about...
Easy as that. No unnecessary demands on anybody. Everybody wins.
Like that time I took that wine tasting class and forgot how to drive!