And, as you admit in your post, I'd have to know that the lawsuit existed and that the fridge was relevant to that lawsuit because the lawsuit defines scope.
Does the presence of a lawsuit mean I can't sell my lawnmower?
- 2014, the OPM warning - 2015, Premera announces breach - 2015, Lawsuits filed - 2016, One computer destroyed for end-of-life - 2018, Plaintiffs ask for all computers *** This motion makes all computers "evidence" - 2018, Premera gives all but destroyed
I can destroy my desktop today. It can be crucial to a lawsuit tomorrow. Today it is not evidence. It isn't evidence tomorrow, either, because I destroyed it today.
I am not compelled to preserve my desktop until served notice.
I'm 72 years old and saw Windows 3.0 (running in DOS) refresh the screen every time a user would step into another directory in File Manager.
I uninstalled that crapware and did not allow it to run the business.
Then, Windows 3.1 came out and fixed that and we were off and running.
I'm retired now and my impression is that Microsoft is damned well tired of Windows.
I think they want to get that albatross detached from the business model.
Windows 10 is very high maintenance for them and Office is, as well.
Both are long in the tooth and have reached the point of diminishing returns and competitors as in, Open Office, LibreOffice, Android, Chrome OS, and Apple are on the upswing with interesting innovations.
"Having given up on actually pursuing direct infringers due to bad publicity, and having decided not to target the software and websites that make online file-sharing possible, the recording industry has shifted its focus to fashioning new forms of copyright liability that would require ISPs to act as the copyright police."
$13 billion dollars could do some good by amping up the US military's capability to fight longer, and more frequent "wars," that keep young men and women employed.
I put "wars" in quotes because there's no exit plan and no intent to actually "win," anything more than money.
Also at stake, is the manufacturer's market of countries outside American borders.
You know, like the painfully inadequate F-35 (Britain, Italy, The Netherlands, Australia, Turkey, Norway, Denmark, Israel, Japan, South Korea) and the M1 Abrams Battle Tank (Egypt, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Australia, and Iraq).
World War II brought America out of the Great Depression.
The US is not about to fuck with that universal basic income.
Any bullshit on the part of the surveillance company is just a parallel argument of type, "What about the children?" when the actual objective is to sell data to any and all takers.
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And, as you admit in your post, I'd have to know that the lawsuit existed and that the fridge was relevant to that lawsuit because the lawsuit defines scope.
Does the presence of a lawsuit mean I can't sell my lawnmower?
Sorry.
You are posting a AC which means you have no profile for me to examine.
Had you alerted us that you lack a sense of humour ... nah.
I think "po po" is funny, kinda like "weasel wart."
Didn't work out well.
After I chopped them up, they did not respond to my efforts to manage them.
You can have your opinions about what people should do, but your thoughts are not supported by case law.
Destroying a HD is not illegal.
I destroyed all the hard drives I ever got rid of at work as a promise to my boss that no one could ever recover any data once they left the building.
When a HD, tablet, smart phone, other, here at home fails, it gets smashed with a 15-pound hammer.
Is it possible that someone, someday, could ask for the hard drives or other as part of discovery?
Sure.
My answer would be, "You're too late to the fucking party and you didn't even bring any goddam ice."
If asked why I didn't preserve the hard drives, I'd tell 'em to fuck off.
I can destroy my property all I want unless directed by an authority not to do so.
Timing is everything.
Not necessary for my purposes.
After a dozen numbers left of the decimal, the point (see what I did there) comes across.
... I was in Memphis, Tenn. studying electronics using a slide rule.
Our classroom had a LARGE one above the blackboard, kinda like the large alphabet signs in grade school.
As an extension of the physics portion, I became enthralled by Special Relativity (SR).
I did a deep dive and manipulated the math to gain an intuitive real-world feel for SR.
A huge fucking problem was extracting square root.
SR only manifests itself at high percentages of the speed of light in a vacuum.
A slide rule was useless when going for lots of decimal places, so I extracted square root by hand using paper and pencil.
It was very painful.
I'd have to perform the calculation three (3) times to verify that I had not made a mistake.
I often asked myself, "Am I trying to understand SR or trying to learn how to successfully find the goddam square root?"
It was a massive speed bump.
The first time I saw a "pocket" calculator, an officer was wearing one aboard the aircraft carrier.
It had four functions: add, subtract, multiply, and divide.
It looked like those goddam Motorola cell phones where the antenna tickled your arm pit.
$1,000.
Later, I bought a TI for $100 and it was an improvement because it also had one memory and ... SQUARE ROOT!.
Thank you Jesus!
At last, I could skate right by the speed bump and begin to grok SR.
You wish it worked that way. You see, the computer wasn't destroyed until law suits were filld [sic].
Hold up right there.
If I receive notice of a lawsuit today, does that mean I can't replace my refrigerator?
The original lawsuit, like most at that stage, was vague in scope and did not include a motion to preserve the destroyed computer.
At no time prior to a motion to turn over all computers in 2018 were the computers sequestered by the court.
Had that been the case, we'd be reading about the criminal charges filed for destroying evidence.
Timing is everything.
Timeline:
- 2014, the OPM warning
- 2015, Premera announces breach
- 2015, Lawsuits filed
- 2016, One computer destroyed for end-of-life
- 2018, Plaintiffs ask for all computers *** This motion makes all computers "evidence"
- 2018, Premera gives all but destroyed
I can destroy my desktop today. It can be crucial to a lawsuit tomorrow. Today it is not evidence. It isn't evidence tomorrow, either, because I destroyed it today.
I am not compelled to preserve my desktop until served notice.
Timing is everything.
,,, unreasonable ...
There's the argument.
The po po can, with "... reason ..." search your house, making a "backdoor," using a battering ram if you refuse entry.
Agreed.
We could have.
We didn't.
We could.
We won't.
... 40 years ago.
We passed the deadline and there's no catching up.
So it is written, so let it be done.
Agreed.
I'm 72 years old and saw Windows 3.0 (running in DOS) refresh the screen every time a user would step into another directory in File Manager.
I uninstalled that crapware and did not allow it to run the business.
Then, Windows 3.1 came out and fixed that and we were off and running.
I'm retired now and my impression is that Microsoft is damned well tired of Windows.
I think they want to get that albatross detached from the business model.
Windows 10 is very high maintenance for them and Office is, as well.
Both are long in the tooth and have reached the point of diminishing returns and competitors as in, Open Office, LibreOffice, Android, Chrome OS, and Apple are on the upswing with interesting innovations.
Bullshit.
Simple answers to complex problems suck tater toes.
The entertainment ecosystem is composed of at least these demographics:
- Entertainers
- IP owners
- Distributors
- Consumers
- Custodians
They are a mixture of every fucking kind of human on the goddam planet.
Yep. Cost avoidance by not enforcing their shit themselves:
Texas ISP Slams Music Industry For Trying To Turn It Into a 'Copyright Cop'
"Having given up on actually pursuing direct infringers due to bad publicity, and having decided not to target the software and websites that make online file-sharing possible, the recording industry has shifted its focus to fashioning new forms of copyright liability that would require ISPs to act as the copyright police."
... oh, sorry.
The War On Piracy ...
Know what?
Both models work the same, as in not.
The health care number you provide is not relevant to this discussion.
For analysis, we need to carve out all non-government expenditures.
Your value includes the private sector, while the tanker drone cost is taxpayer-supported.
A more realistic number for governmental health care expenditure is $1,040 billion.
PROJECTIONS FOR MAJOR HEALTH CARE PROGRAMS FOR FY 2018
(As of April 1, 2018 )
MEDICARE (Net of Offsetting Receipts)
583 Billion
MEDICAID
383 Billion
HEALTH INSURANCE SUBSIDIES AND RELATED SPENDING
$58 Billion
CHILDREN’S HEALTH INSURANCE PROGRAM
$16 Billion
"Let's do the math." ~ Sheldon to Leonard's mother, The Big Bang Theory
MEDICARE (Net of Offsetting Receipts): 583
MEDICAID: 383
HEALTH INSURANCE SUBSIDIES AND RELATED SPENDING: 58
CHILDREN’S HEALTH INSURANCE PROGRAM: 16
Total: 1040
13/1040=.0125 or 1.25%.
1.25% additional healthcare expenditure could be provided with the taxpayers $13 Billion slated for the Navy's Carrier-Launched Tanker Drone.
$13 billion dollars could do some good by amping up the US military's capability to fight longer, and more frequent "wars," that keep young men and women employed.
I put "wars" in quotes because there's no exit plan and no intent to actually "win," anything more than money.
Also at stake, is the manufacturer's market of countries outside American borders.
You know, like the painfully inadequate F-35 (Britain, Italy, The Netherlands, Australia, Turkey, Norway, Denmark, Israel, Japan, South Korea) and the M1 Abrams Battle Tank (Egypt, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Australia, and Iraq).
World War II brought America out of the Great Depression.
The US is not about to fuck with that universal basic income.
... is this?
The end game is creating a revenue stream.
Any bullshit on the part of the surveillance company is just a parallel argument of type, "What about the children?" when the actual objective is to sell data to any and all takers.
I did.
*UCMJ
Sorry.
I was in the military.
The UCMCJ forbids carrying out illegal orders.
Had a superior seriously ordered me to fight Americans, I'd have killed the son of a bitch.
You know ... like they did routinely in Vietnam.
... those who talk about overthrowing the gubmint are the founding fathers ...>/quote>No one overthrew a government.
I'm studying BREXIT and those bastards are still around.
Unlike the US, Britain knew when to quit.
You can also read up on the Revolutionary War to see what happens when the traitors win ...
The traitors had the home field advantage. You know that.
And, a more powerful example would be a reference to the people who are willing to blow themselves up.