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So what if Clu gets out into the real world? Practically, what is he going to do? For that matter, how does Quorra (or any of the ISOs) getting out into the real world change anything?
They seemed to have left the details of the danger as an exercise for the viewer, but I think the threat was pretty real.
In the digital world, once he had Flynn's disc, he could then create programs (which he couldn't do before). Once he could enter our world as a real person (and, essentially wind up being Flynn in our world, he could take over Encom as a nice start), he could also then create as many programs on the grid as he wanted, and bring them into our world as his soldiers. Essentially an infinite army. That's my take, anyway.
I'd rather have an army of Olivia Wildes, though. She totally stole every scene she was in.
I'm still at a loss on how the isomorphs were supposed to change anything.
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the first one was mostly about exploring this new world and concepts and CG that had never been seen before. But the reality now is, CG is second nature; it's used everywhere. And the world? Well I already knew about it from #1. There was nothing new.
I guess you missed the whole open source philosophy, and the whole "perfection isn't the point" message, too. You know, the whole point of the story. Game over. Play again? 10...9...8...
No point looking for the original document -- it was in Swedish.
Ah, found it. No wonder - I was looking for the document title, "Assange Rapes Women" when I should've been looking for "Assange BORKS Women BORK BORK BORK". Thanks for the tip.
...How exactly would that serve military purposes? Pink submarines are much easier to spot, assuming they aren't in a gay pride parade or Susan G Komen walk.
The morale of the seamen serving board pink submarines will be so great due to the fabulous new look of the sub, they will be more more effective. Plus they will serve as an inspiration to the enemy, who will clearly want to defect to our side. I predict total victory at sea for all our submarines that are battling... whoever it is that has submarines left.
This will either lead to segments of our military being strictly only for homosexuals or strictly not for homosexuals, without regard to what might be best for military purposes.
Dude, the Navy is going to become *fabulous*. Operation Petticoat will inspire a thousand pink submarines.
I'm sure the money spent on lawyers instead of development is promoting tech progress, not scaring away other innovators.
Much like what happened with Wall Street, legal issues like protection of intellectual properties and patents is where big money innovation is happening. Consumer electronics is a game of razor-thin margins where everything is built in Asia. Apple is like the economic geniuses that came up with derivatives trading, etc., so as to make a high margin game out of something that would otherwise be low margin. This is why Apple sells things it designs AS high margin, in a boutique space, out of the same commodity parts that everyone else uses. They Martha Stewart shit into shinola with a pretty (and pretty restrictive) UI, force you to buy from the company store, and call it freedom. Profit!
Steve Jobs is basically a Ferengi in disguise.
I'm pretty sure Ballmer is one of those goblins from Harry Potter.:)
I'm rather suspect the point of the phone isn't to sell well in the general market, its to sell to the narrow slice of the market for which an unlocked-out-of-the-box Android phone is key, and to serve as the next Androd Dev Phone.
I'm sure that's the case, but I don't think it's much of an Android dev phone, either, since it's not dual core, which is the Next Big Thing to come at CES next month. Really, the only interesting thing on it for a developer would be NFC and gyroscope. I guess $600 won't be a barrier to commercial developers, but the little guys might balk at that, considering it's going to be obsoleted in a month, anyway.
You might want to hold your horses there. Dual-core chips may start appearing in tablets early next year, but it will be a while before they make their way into smartphones. And that's certainly not going to happen in Q1 in any case.
The phones ARE going to be announced at CES next month. Shipping? Unknown at this point. Some Nexus S testers had dual core versions, though. Dual core phones are coming faster than you seem to think.
And does T-Mobile even have HSPA+?
Yes, they do. It's faster here in the Seattle area than Verizon's LTE and WiMAX on Sprint/Clear (I have an EVO. I tested T-Mo's myTouch 4G on their HSPA+ and got 2Mb/sec faster download than on my EVO.:(
The other horror about the Nexus S, if true, is that I'm reading that it has no microSD slot? Seriously? I'm really hoping that's wrong. That's just insane.
How does Google rationalize selling at BestBuy with their "don't be evil" policy??
It's the cellphone equivalent of extraordinary rendition. They're sending you to somewhere else to get eviled. Also known as "techno torture by proxy".
Why not make it available, in unlocked form, for everyone, everywhere?
Ecommerce in every country doesn't magically happen on its own - that takes a lot of preparation. Also, the rules covering cell phones are different for every country. Just because the FCC in the U.S. approves a phone, doesn't mean it's automatically approved for use or sale everywhere else. Global release of an electronic product that broadcasts, plus making it work on all the different phone networks, negotiating with all those phone companies around the world, etc. It's just not practical.
I've been waiting for this phone to renew my T-Mo contract, but the lack of "4G" network capability means I'll probably end up switching to Verizon. Way to fail, Goog-Sung!
The myTouch 4G has HSPA+ on T-Mo.
I'd recommend waiting for the inevitable flood of phone announcements next month at CES. Dual-core phones are coming _soon_.
The summary has it wrong, this phone isn't aimed at average consumers at all and is by no means a "bid for a slice of the market". It's reference hardware that will support the latest Google-branded builds of Android over the next year or so, so that developers can test their applications. The inclusion of technologies such as NFC and a gyroscope is what probably necessitates a hardware revision besides the usual software update (that's available for the N1 as well).
And it's going to be a failure for a lot of devs over the next year who want to test their apps on a dual-core phone, which is going to be the next big thing at next month's CES. And also no HSPA+? Jesus! This thing has failure written all over it. It would've been a great phone 6 months ago. *shrug*
Since the Nexus S is just a re-badged Galaxy S, why not wait for the re-badged Galaxy S Pro? It should be exactly what you are looking for. It is also the phone I am waiting for.
Make sure that Galaxy S Pro has HSPA+. I can't _believe_ they didn't include that in the Nexus S. Ridiculously dumb move.
If you want an Android phone with hardware keyboard and HSPA+, on T-Mobile, the myTouch 4G is the phone to get. No NFC, though, which is a shame.
CES next month should see a lot of very big phone announcements, though, so everyone would be well advised to just wait until then. Dual-core phones, LTE phones, etc.
I won't be buying the Nexus S for two reasons, A) Why pay full price for a phone that doesn't even support 4g and B) no keyboard.
Without HSPA+, this thing is dead in the water for anyone who knows anything about cellphones.
I have an EVO on Sprint, and the only hardware thing this has that I'd really like is NFC. The rumour mill stated this phone was delayed so they could re-do the design using a dual-core CPU. Apparently not. Too bad - this phone is gonna get slaughtered by the phone announcements at CES next month. This phone will not sell well after the xmas rush.
NO KEYBOARD, NO PURCHASE. it is simple as that for many people, including myself
And it's the other way around for many of us. I don't want to have a larger than necessary phone by wasting volume and weight on an unnecessary thing like a physical keyboard. Swype works great, and is WAY faster than I would be able to go with a tiny little cellphone keyboard. I'm a VERY fast touch typist on my computer, but a cellphone keyboard is too small to be of any real use now that we have UI advancements like Swype.
If you want a keyboard on your phone, then get a phone with a keyboard. There is no one design that will appeal to everyone. It's not "wrong" for a phone to not have a physical keyboard, just wrong for you.:)
A thumbs down in the southern hemisphere is the same as a thumbs up in the northern hemisphere, as long as you name the file bruce.pdf. It saves confusion.
Most people agree that the legal system exists to protect society (among other things). If setting an example discourages others from committing crimes, then by setting an example the legal system is doing it's job.
The 'example' best set by a justice system is to fairly and consistently enforce the laws. If one person is given a particular sentence, then people who commit a similar offense should receive a similar sentence. The 'example' I replied to was someone saying this person should receive a more harsh sentence than they would otherwise, which is not consistent with justice.
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So what if Clu gets out into the real world? Practically, what is he going to do? For that matter, how does Quorra (or any of the ISOs) getting out into the real world change anything?
They seemed to have left the details of the danger as an exercise for the viewer, but I think the threat was pretty real.
In the digital world, once he had Flynn's disc, he could then create programs (which he couldn't do before). Once he could enter our world as a real person (and, essentially wind up being Flynn in our world, he could take over Encom as a nice start), he could also then create as many programs on the grid as he wanted, and bring them into our world as his soldiers. Essentially an infinite army. That's my take, anyway.
I'd rather have an army of Olivia Wildes, though. She totally stole every scene she was in.
I'm still at a loss on how the isomorphs were supposed to change anything.
the first one was mostly about exploring this new world and concepts and CG that had never been seen before. But the reality now is, CG is second nature; it's used everywhere. And the world? Well I already knew about it from #1. There was nothing new.
I guess you missed the whole open source philosophy, and the whole "perfection isn't the point" message, too. You know, the whole point of the story. Game over. Play again? 10...9...8...
Since when are 6 digit user IDs a thing?
Yo, let the kids have their delusions. It keeps them off our lawns and such.
No point looking for the original document -- it was in Swedish.
Ah, found it. No wonder - I was looking for the document title, "Assange Rapes Women" when I should've been looking for "Assange BORKS Women BORK BORK BORK". Thanks for the tip.
Exactly what does truecrypt support mean?
It's encrypted. Truly.
...How exactly would that serve military purposes?
Pink submarines are much easier to spot, assuming they aren't in a gay pride parade or Susan G Komen walk.
The morale of the seamen serving board pink submarines will be so great due to the fabulous new look of the sub, they will be more more effective. Plus they will serve as an inspiration to the enemy, who will clearly want to defect to our side. I predict total victory at sea for all our submarines that are battling ... whoever it is that has submarines left.
This will either lead to segments of our military being strictly only for homosexuals or strictly not for homosexuals, without regard to what might be best for military purposes.
Dude, the Navy is going to become *fabulous*. Operation Petticoat will inspire a thousand pink submarines.
At long last, I can printer my own 3D objects! I love printering 3D objects. Printering is my life.
out of Lego-like plastic
Really, when I want to do that, I just use actual Legos. :)
We don't need such experience. We have physics
One of the funniest things ever said on Slashdot. Congratulations!
I'm sure the money spent on lawyers instead of development is promoting tech progress, not scaring away other innovators.
Much like what happened with Wall Street, legal issues like protection of intellectual properties and patents is where big money innovation is happening. Consumer electronics is a game of razor-thin margins where everything is built in Asia. Apple is like the economic geniuses that came up with derivatives trading, etc., so as to make a high margin game out of something that would otherwise be low margin. This is why Apple sells things it designs AS high margin, in a boutique space, out of the same commodity parts that everyone else uses. They Martha Stewart shit into shinola with a pretty (and pretty restrictive) UI, force you to buy from the company store, and call it freedom. Profit!
Steve Jobs is basically a Ferengi in disguise.
I'm pretty sure Ballmer is one of those goblins from Harry Potter. :)
Same here. I use an htc EVO on Sprint, and I have absolutely no problems with AT&T. :)
I'm rather suspect the point of the phone isn't to sell well in the general market, its to sell to the narrow slice of the market for which an unlocked-out-of-the-box Android phone is key, and to serve as the next Androd Dev Phone.
I'm sure that's the case, but I don't think it's much of an Android dev phone, either, since it's not dual core, which is the Next Big Thing to come at CES next month. Really, the only interesting thing on it for a developer would be NFC and gyroscope. I guess $600 won't be a barrier to commercial developers, but the little guys might balk at that, considering it's going to be obsoleted in a month, anyway.
You might want to hold your horses there. Dual-core chips may start appearing in tablets early next year, but it will be a while before they make their way into smartphones. And that's certainly not going to happen in Q1 in any case.
The phones ARE going to be announced at CES next month. Shipping? Unknown at this point. Some Nexus S testers had dual core versions, though. Dual core phones are coming faster than you seem to think.
And does T-Mobile even have HSPA+?
Yes, they do. It's faster here in the Seattle area than Verizon's LTE and WiMAX on Sprint/Clear (I have an EVO. I tested T-Mo's myTouch 4G on their HSPA+ and got 2Mb/sec faster download than on my EVO. :(
The other horror about the Nexus S, if true, is that I'm reading that it has no microSD slot? Seriously? I'm really hoping that's wrong. That's just insane.
How does Google rationalize selling at BestBuy with their "don't be evil" policy??
It's the cellphone equivalent of extraordinary rendition. They're sending you to somewhere else to get eviled. Also known as "techno torture by proxy".
Why not make it available, in unlocked form, for everyone, everywhere?
Ecommerce in every country doesn't magically happen on its own - that takes a lot of preparation. Also, the rules covering cell phones are different for every country. Just because the FCC in the U.S. approves a phone, doesn't mean it's automatically approved for use or sale everywhere else. Global release of an electronic product that broadcasts, plus making it work on all the different phone networks, negotiating with all those phone companies around the world, etc. It's just not practical.
I've been waiting for this phone to renew my T-Mo contract, but the lack of "4G" network capability means I'll probably end up switching to Verizon. Way to fail, Goog-Sung!
The myTouch 4G has HSPA+ on T-Mo.
I'd recommend waiting for the inevitable flood of phone announcements next month at CES. Dual-core phones are coming _soon_.
The summary has it wrong, this phone isn't aimed at average consumers at all and is by no means a "bid for a slice of the market". It's reference hardware that will support the latest Google-branded builds of Android over the next year or so, so that developers can test their applications. The inclusion of technologies such as NFC and a gyroscope is what probably necessitates a hardware revision besides the usual software update (that's available for the N1 as well).
And it's going to be a failure for a lot of devs over the next year who want to test their apps on a dual-core phone, which is going to be the next big thing at next month's CES. And also no HSPA+? Jesus! This thing has failure written all over it. It would've been a great phone 6 months ago. *shrug*
Since the Nexus S is just a re-badged Galaxy S, why not wait for the re-badged Galaxy S Pro? It should be exactly what you are looking for. It is also the phone I am waiting for.
Make sure that Galaxy S Pro has HSPA+. I can't _believe_ they didn't include that in the Nexus S. Ridiculously dumb move.
If you want an Android phone with hardware keyboard and HSPA+, on T-Mobile, the myTouch 4G is the phone to get. No NFC, though, which is a shame.
CES next month should see a lot of very big phone announcements, though, so everyone would be well advised to just wait until then. Dual-core phones, LTE phones, etc.
I won't be buying the Nexus S for two reasons, A) Why pay full price for a phone that doesn't even support 4g and B) no keyboard.
Without HSPA+, this thing is dead in the water for anyone who knows anything about cellphones.
I have an EVO on Sprint, and the only hardware thing this has that I'd really like is NFC. The rumour mill stated this phone was delayed so they could re-do the design using a dual-core CPU. Apparently not. Too bad - this phone is gonna get slaughtered by the phone announcements at CES next month. This phone will not sell well after the xmas rush.
NO KEYBOARD, NO PURCHASE. it is simple as that for many people, including myself
And it's the other way around for many of us. I don't want to have a larger than necessary phone by wasting volume and weight on an unnecessary thing like a physical keyboard. Swype works great, and is WAY faster than I would be able to go with a tiny little cellphone keyboard. I'm a VERY fast touch typist on my computer, but a cellphone keyboard is too small to be of any real use now that we have UI advancements like Swype.
If you want a keyboard on your phone, then get a phone with a keyboard. There is no one design that will appeal to everyone. It's not "wrong" for a phone to not have a physical keyboard, just wrong for you. :)
SlideIT and Swype are, indeed, excellent. You still can't use them without looking at the phone, though.
That's not necessarily a bad thing.
After "Aa" we'd go to "Ab" (Aborted Abalone?). By the time we need to deal with "Bb", Hurd should be a viable competitor to Linux.
So you're saying there will never be an Ubuntu starting with "Bb"?
I suspect the opposite - longer after the Hurd is dropped due to disinterest, Ubuntu will still be churning out new versions.
In fact arsenic is toxic to you precisely because it takes the place of phosphorus so easily, without doing all of the jobs.
So ... it's like an outsource worker?
A thumbs down in the southern hemisphere is the same as a thumbs up in the northern hemisphere, as long as you name the file bruce.pdf. It saves confusion.
Most people agree that the legal system exists to protect society (among other things). If setting an example discourages others from committing crimes, then by setting an example the legal system is doing it's job.
The 'example' best set by a justice system is to fairly and consistently enforce the laws. If one person is given a particular sentence, then people who commit a similar offense should receive a similar sentence. The 'example' I replied to was someone saying this person should receive a more harsh sentence than they would otherwise, which is not consistent with justice.