As of the upcoming Conroe/Merom generation, it's all 64-bit sweetness, not that that will have much of an effect on 99% of users out there, but at least it'll shut some people up about it.:)
I'm especially interested in seeing some of the Merom-generation ULV processors; those are some pretty impressive little chips.
The preliminary tests (I've only seen one which was not done on a machine built by Intel -- but the results from that one match the others) have shown that a $316 Conroe (the E6600) match or exceed the ~$1200 Athlon FX-62 (highest end Athlon available, with a higher clock than the E6600). I'd say that's a pretty good price/performance comparison.
I'm actually more interested in the possibilities of running the Merom (mobile version of the Conroe) on a desktop mobo, if that's going to be possible. That should be more computing power than I need, with much less power consumption. I hope it's possible...
> As has been pointed out by other posters, we're talking about a net increase of one degree in temperature.
Go see "An Inconvenient Truth," and pay special attention to the part about 'non-linear' events. The small changes over time will wind up triggering the much faster big changes.
The whole 'natural cycle' misunderstanding is also debunked pretty effectively.
Honestly, I think it's too late to stop it from happening. The ocean stores WAY too much heat. Even if we stopped tomorrow, it'll still keep releasing it for quite some time. I'm still quite concerned about the release of toxins via pollution, though.
There are only a few things that are likely to cause that kind of non-manmade temperature spike, and that's solar and volcanic activity. Since we now track these things, scientists can accurately put them into their models and the guesswork is lessened. Using those spikes as 'proof' is quite misleading.
> I know a lot of people which can't agree on the causes.
Then you know a lot of people ignorant on the topic. I was, too, until quite recently. We are well outside the normal zone of the typical cyclical temperature and CO2 variations, going back for hundreds of thousands of years.
> Are we getting slashdot articles for each verion bump of the mozilla products? I tought freshmeat was created for that.
New here, ain't ya? And you got modded insightful? New moderators, too, I see.
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Darin Fisher did this on the trunk in bug 326273. The complexity of the repair, as you surmised, means that Firefox 3.0 will be the first consumer release to contain these changes.
Darin Fisher is my new hero - he is a golden god!
As for having to wait for FF3... *sigh* At least it's coming.
Thanks much for answering this burning question of mine.
so I'll just keep asking...and getting no answer
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Firefox 2 Alpha 2 Reviewed
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· Score: 4, Interesting
Multi-threaded UI yet? Anybody? Anybody?
Bueller?
The longer this is put off, the harder I suspect it's going to be to put it, due to a more complicated codebase.
For me, it's a tough call between Buckeroo Banzai and Chris Knight. For sheer brilliance, obviously it's Buckeroo, but for personality - Knight all the way.
For the person who mentioned Dr. Forbin - gimme a break! The guy got outsmarted by his own invention. That's never cool.
And pretty much the same goes for Professor Falken - it took the hacker kid to figure out how to defeat it. That WOPR didn't know the difference between a simulation and the real deal is a sad indictment of Falken's abilities. I mean really, flip a bit, bitch!
And different phones use different algorithms for computing "the number of bars", so definitely don't use that to compare phones.
And you can't even use it as a guide on an individual phone - I've lost connection on phones when the signal strength showed medium or above - just boom, signal gone.
Cellphones suck, and they don't seem to be working on improving call quality - just adding stupid features. Who the hell needs an 8 megapixel camera on their cellphone?!
You know, I completely forgot the Radio Shack lines. The TRS-80 series were very popular, but let's not forget about the Color Computer series (CoCo) - which actually ran arguably the most sophisticated OS of the day - OS9. This system is still being developed for today (both new hardware and OS updates), amazingly enough. Very impressive.
The Atari 800 design seems to be quite advanced in concept, but lackluster in execution. If you look at it, it's basically a badly-done Amiga. Custom chips, etc. The insistence on cartridges, the memory limitations, etc., all helped to consign this machine to quick obsolescence. Jay Miner went on to work on the Amiga.
The Amiga 1000 (the original Amiga) is the better historical computer, IMO. Hey - any movie used in The Price of Darkness has gotta have it goin' on!
"I LIVE! I LIVE! I LIVE! I LIVE! I LIVE! I LIVE! I LIVE! I LIVE! I LIVE! "... "IN FACT...YOU WILL NOT BE SAVED!"
Classic.
Definitely the computer Matthew Broderick used in WarGames (IMSAI?) should be in there.
Scrounging up a working Apple Lisa and Apple/// would be good, same for a Kaypro and an Osborne. All the classic 8-bits: Atari 400 and 800, Commodore PET, Commodore 64 (and weird ones like the SX64, etc.), TI-99 4/a, and if you have an Amiga, you can't skimp at avoid the Atari ST line. Coleco Adam.
There's actually a little museum of this type here in Seattle in the SODO area Re-PC store. Some really awesome stuff, though the machines are all turned off. It'd be more fun if you could mess with them. There are actually working older computers for sale there pretty often, such as Apple//gs, etc. I'm sure glad I didn't buy that piece of shit, and went for an Amiga 500 at the time. *whew*
It's more accurately described as "pseudo-religious" anyway, because aside from stealing a bunch of names from old Christian mythology it doesn't really have much of anything to do with Christianity.
>I'm sure they'll have unbeatable prices for 5400rpm 5.25" harddrives.
As long as they're at least 500GB, I'll buy a couple.
Yeah, if you change that GB to MB, and divide the 500 by 10, you might have a chance.:)
I just checked Newegg to see what the most low-tech HD they have in stock - a 5400rpm 3.5" 20GB ATA100 drive. Awesome.
I have another 400GB drive arriving this weekend, which will put my system up to 1.25TB (pre-formatted, of course). w00t! (thank you, Netflix, for the unbearable need for massive amounts of drive space *sigh*)
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Is the intel duo a 64 processor or is it 32?
:)
As of the upcoming Conroe/Merom generation, it's all 64-bit sweetness, not that that will have much of an effect on 99% of users out there, but at least it'll shut some people up about it.
I'm especially interested in seeing some of the Merom-generation ULV processors; those are some pretty impressive little chips.
depends on price. amd 64 rocks
The preliminary tests (I've only seen one which was not done on a machine built by Intel -- but the results from that one match the others) have shown that a $316 Conroe (the E6600) match or exceed the ~$1200 Athlon FX-62 (highest end Athlon available, with a higher clock than the E6600). I'd say that's a pretty good price/performance comparison.
I'm actually more interested in the possibilities of running the Merom (mobile version of the Conroe) on a desktop mobo, if that's going to be possible. That should be more computing power than I need, with much less power consumption. I hope it's possible...
"Errm... there wasn't anyone around to name the Earth anything a few hundred million years ago"
:)
How would YOU know?
> As has been pointed out by other posters, we're talking about a net increase of one degree in temperature.
Go see "An Inconvenient Truth," and pay special attention to the part about 'non-linear' events. The small changes over time will wind up triggering the much faster big changes.
The whole 'natural cycle' misunderstanding is also debunked pretty effectively.
Honestly, I think it's too late to stop it from happening. The ocean stores WAY too much heat. Even if we stopped tomorrow, it'll still keep releasing it for quite some time. I'm still quite concerned about the release of toxins via pollution, though.
There are only a few things that are likely to cause that kind of non-manmade temperature spike, and that's solar and volcanic activity. Since we now track these things, scientists can accurately put them into their models and the guesswork is lessened. Using those spikes as 'proof' is quite misleading.
> I know a lot of people which can't agree on the causes.
f _the_past_1000_years
Then you know a lot of people ignorant on the topic. I was, too, until quite recently. We are well outside the normal zone of the typical cyclical temperature and CO2 variations, going back for hundreds of thousands of years.
> Temperatures were warmer 1000 years ago.
Uh, no, at least if Wikipedia is to be believed:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temperature_record_o
Please to take note of when we started going well past that 1000 year temperature high. Go see "An Inconvenient Truth" while you're at it.
Dude, you're pathetic. You're just reading the article to improve your karma rating. :)
So are you going to upgrade to an Intel Core 2 Duo processor to get even lower power consumption than AMD? :)
Personally I find Apple very much like Microsoft.
Yeah...except their OS actually...you know...WORKS.
Okay, let's start the official pool for how big Tom's Hardware review will be.
I'm guessing 23 pages.
> Are we getting slashdot articles for each verion bump of the mozilla products? I tought freshmeat was created for that.
New here, ain't ya? And you got modded insightful? New moderators, too, I see.
Welcome to the n00bs!
Other activities you'll likely enjoy:
Complaining about dupes
Complaining about grammar in stories (and comments)
Spelling Microsoft as M$
(or Complaining about the constant bashing of MS)
Getting snarky when a security flaw is found in open source software
Complaining about a submission not being 'news for nerds' or 'stuff that matters'
You guys are gonna have a ball!
These aren't the replicants you're looking for.
I'd prefer the sabre sound effect for mouse movement. And the sabre clashing sound when a mouse button is clicked.
> they are designed to hide bugs in the hardware/firmware,
:)
>> I was always under the impression that the specs were closed to ward off copycatting from competitors.
I thought they were to make sure noone knew they were stealing other people's/companies' intellectual property they didn't want to license.
It's probably a combination of all three, though.
You want a multi-threaded browser? Why?? It's hardly a cpu intensive application.
Very often FF will stop entirely when a tab is loading something; it can be locked-up for quite some time.
Darin Fisher did this on the trunk in bug 326273. The complexity of the repair, as you surmised, means that Firefox 3.0 will be the first consumer release to contain these changes.
... *sigh* At least it's coming.
Darin Fisher is my new hero - he is a golden god!
As for having to wait for FF3
Thanks much for answering this burning question of mine.
Multi-threaded UI yet? Anybody? Anybody?
Bueller?
The longer this is put off, the harder I suspect it's going to be to put it, due to a more complicated codebase.
Lay the foundation first, folks, PLEASE.
For me, it's a tough call between Buckeroo Banzai and Chris Knight. For sheer brilliance, obviously it's Buckeroo, but for personality - Knight all the way.
For the person who mentioned Dr. Forbin - gimme a break! The guy got outsmarted by his own invention. That's never cool.
And pretty much the same goes for Professor Falken - it took the hacker kid to figure out how to defeat it. That WOPR didn't know the difference between a simulation and the real deal is a sad indictment of Falken's abilities. I mean really, flip a bit, bitch!
And different phones use different algorithms for computing "the number of bars", so definitely don't use that to compare phones.
And you can't even use it as a guide on an individual phone - I've lost connection on phones when the signal strength showed medium or above - just boom, signal gone.
Cellphones suck, and they don't seem to be working on improving call quality - just adding stupid features. Who the hell needs an 8 megapixel camera on their cellphone?!
another home-made tool of the times was a keycap popper, so you could clean the dang keyboard and get the frickin "S" key to work again.
I actually went to some trouble to find one of those a few years ago to keep my venerable IBM Model M keyboards going. Works like a charm.
You know, I completely forgot the Radio Shack lines. The TRS-80 series were very popular, but let's not forget about the Color Computer series (CoCo) - which actually ran arguably the most sophisticated OS of the day - OS9. This system is still being developed for today (both new hardware and OS updates), amazingly enough. Very impressive.
The Atari 800 design seems to be quite advanced in concept, but lackluster in execution. If you look at it, it's basically a badly-done Amiga. Custom chips, etc. The insistence on cartridges, the memory limitations, etc., all helped to consign this machine to quick obsolescence. Jay Miner went on to work on the Amiga.
The Amiga 1000 (the original Amiga) is the better historical computer, IMO. Hey - any movie used in The Price of Darkness has gotta have it goin' on!
...
/// would be good, same for a Kaypro and an Osborne. All the classic 8-bits: Atari 400 and 800, Commodore PET, Commodore 64 (and weird ones like the SX64, etc.), TI-99 4/a, and if you have an Amiga, you can't skimp at avoid the Atari ST line. Coleco Adam.
//gs, etc. I'm sure glad I didn't buy that piece of shit, and went for an Amiga 500 at the time. *whew*
"I LIVE! I LIVE! I LIVE! I LIVE! I LIVE! I LIVE! I LIVE! I LIVE! I LIVE! "
"IN FACT...YOU WILL NOT BE SAVED!"
Classic.
Definitely the computer Matthew Broderick used in WarGames (IMSAI?) should be in there.
Scrounging up a working Apple Lisa and Apple
There's actually a little museum of this type here in Seattle in the SODO area Re-PC store. Some really awesome stuff, though the machines are all turned off. It'd be more fun if you could mess with them. There are actually working older computers for sale there pretty often, such as Apple
It's more accurately described as "pseudo-religious" anyway, because aside from stealing a bunch of names from old Christian mythology it doesn't really have much of anything to do with Christianity.
... just like Christianity itself, eh? :)
So
What is the achievement in BUYING HDDs to store movies on? Why not just BUY DVDs instead? They can be incredibly cheap if you know where to look.
You remember that whizzing sound you heard over your head? That was you missing the point.
>I'm sure they'll have unbeatable prices for 5400rpm 5.25" harddrives.
:)
As long as they're at least 500GB, I'll buy a couple.
Yeah, if you change that GB to MB, and divide the 500 by 10, you might have a chance.
I just checked Newegg to see what the most low-tech HD they have in stock - a 5400rpm 3.5" 20GB ATA100 drive. Awesome.
I have another 400GB drive arriving this weekend, which will put my system up to 1.25TB (pre-formatted, of course). w00t! (thank you, Netflix, for the unbearable need for massive amounts of drive space *sigh*)