" AOL's widely available, easy-to-use Internet service"
Well, it's not 'available' the same way a server/phone trunk is marked in availability - can I connect 99.95% of the time. No. It is not high availability... of course, they say widely, and it is somewhat true - anywhere you have a phone line, you can get to AOL...
Internet service - they never really claimed to be, until recently. Their profits are from the non-internet content on their site. If you just dial into AOL as an ISP, then Netscrape your way way out of it (with the ugly stuff minimized), you are wasting time and money (but I got 500 free hours!?)...
They are getting to be a huge deal, and, like any other hopeful enterprise, take advantage of the people who are less informed, weaker minded, and those who just don't care...
I was happy when AOL first came out - it was the first cheap access to any outside content that I could get (the bills were high from the BBS calls)... Of course, then you had to add your own winsock, and do some other things, but at least it didn't feed you 'art' all day until you puked... and the chat rooms were almost real... not nearly as many gender-benders...
Installing AOL *still* screws up just about any other connections you might have. You have a VPN client. Install AOL and watch it fizzle. Another dial-up... good luck. Of course, if you have a 24/7 net connection, you don't dial-up and just connect to AOL via TCP/IP... though I heard they were getting rid of that / charging extra for it...
I don't have Time WAOLner Cable in my area, so that doesn't bother me too much... (I've ranted long enough anyway).
>It was an open invitiation, saying "We'll fill Slashdot with garbage, so it's okay for you, too!" And then they bitch about the comment noise.
Congratualtions, AC - you are part of the problem you describe. You are the 'N' in the S/N ratio. You are the 'garbage' that fills this site. You write the'nonsense and stupid posts'.
Please log in if you wish your opinions to be considered. Otherwise, don't expect anyone around here to care.seems like 'round these parts, a pseudonym is better than no nym at all...
Yeah, you should be able to mangle incoming packets from your network out to the T1, and receive normally from cable... the only problem is you'd need to adjust the IP address so that the other system would send the responses to the cable modem... and the gateway on the other side of the T1 would still route you... hmmm... a little tricky.
The fail-over could be more easily implemented. You'd have a couple of seconds of downtime, but that's better than a few minutes or an hour 8^)
Training is not something that is handed to you, you have to go get it. Whether it is in the form of an onsite class, local college course, downloadable course, or a 'Learn to FooBar() in 21 days' (doable in 5, of course), training is something that *you* need to take initiative to acquire. "But boss, I dunno howda do that stuff" sounds *so* much better than "... and to help me meet my project goals and increase my value to the company, I'm (taking this course/hoping you'll pay for this thing/reading a book/hoping you won't fire me/whaever)."
Of course, if your company beats you with a stick for not knowing everything, then wear a flak jacket or get a new job 8^)
While I don't grok Old Navy's commercials (or the Gap's), why, praytell, anre they on the list with those others? Have they been clubbing baby seals, and I just haven't heard? Or does that old lady really scare you? -she's not half as bad as that old guy from the Nissan commercials a while ago...
Yes, but for those of us with halfway decent equipment, it's pretty lame... I won't be happy until I hook up some Andra s to my Krell FPB;-) oh wait... gotta win the powerball first.
Guess my Polk/Rotel/Trinitron setup will have to suffice for now...
And there is a marked quality difference on a 32"+ screen between cable/VHS (both suck) and DVD (though the remastered Monty Python doesn't really count).
If you are watching *anything* on a $150 tv/vcr combo with a mono speaker facing out the side of the back, I pity you. Andover should pay you more.
Your $7000 price point is a little wrong... Let's see (note that I'm using components that an average person could find...) 27" Trinitron - $600 (you could get it quite a bit cheaper on sale) Sony Mid-grade DVD - $400 An acceptable A/V receiver with 5.1 DD/DTS - $350-500 (pick your brand) A cheap pair of decent stereo front speakers (too many brands to list here): $350 Another for the rear $350 The matching center $250 A small sub: $300
Hmmm... that's still way under $7k... maybe delivery is more where you live 8^)
And yeah.... I've got a Suncoast in town... I wouldn't trust the guys there to tell me the time of day if they were staring at a clock... they even get things wrong when they read them of of the release sheets at the counter... highly trained, minimum wage.... oh, my!
I'm still trying to figure out why he thinks that DVD is in competition with THX in any way... okay... so you have Dolby Digital and DTS, but many good surround decoders and power amps get THX certification because... guess what? THX and Dolby Digital have nothing to do with each other! They are complimentary, not adversarial. THX defines the quality of the reproduction (the kind of thing you *really* can't get off of a VHS cassette), and Dolby Digital is the encoding scheme....
From THX.com: --BEGIN SNIPPIT-- Is Home THX compatible with Dolby Digital and DTS?
Absolutely! The goal of the Home THX System is to accurately recreate the xperience of the film mixing theatre. All mixing theatres are capable of creating both 4 and 5.1 channel mixes. The acoustics, equalization curves, and loudspeaker arrays used in a mixing theatre remain thesame for a digital 5.1 channel soundtrack as they do for a 4 channel Dolby Surround soundtrack. Home THX Technologies are needed to reproduce these movie soundtracks accurately. --END SNIPPIT--
So... DVD offers 5.1 channel encoding, higher S/N ratio than a VHS cassette, with greater dynamic range...
Or maybe I don't understand your point 8^)
BTW, I don't *own* a VHS player (when I bought a system after college, I opted out of that one - very minimal need.... haven't missed it yet)...
and I'm not happy with VHS sound/video degradation - I can send you my copy of Spaceballs... very worn out:)
Probably not a bad idea - you don't need FP for FS anyway 8^D
My argument is still based off of the overall lack-of-cost / performance / feature set argument. Plus, in the winter, you can keep your house a little warmer. 2 60 watt light bulbs waste as much energy. Buy a few compact fluorescents, and you've saved the energy you need to run your FS;-)
Hmmm... didn't even know yahoo *had* chat rooms (not that I would visit them anyway).
>I don't think Yahoo is selling your email addr. Just for "testing", I made a brand new account and never went into a chatroom using the main name. NEVER got a single spam mail on that account.
Well... absoloutly NOTHING has ever been done with this account. No chats, no mail, no postings. Zip, zero, zilch, nil, nada (null, even)...
I *did* check something that said 'please oh please don't list me or let anyone find me', but that never works 8^)
Hmm, I just checked the power usage on my linux router / fs (with my UPS monitoring util)... less than 120 watts total usage (that's with a 7200 rpm drive in there). Of course, if I start the rc-5 client, this goes up some, but hey not too bad - certainly not hundreds. There's no extras in there (sound, etc), and if you can use power management for when you aren't doing stuff, it works rather well.
It comes to about $8 a month for electricity per month (according to my rates), and a quick figure would show one of the specific NAS boxes coming in the $3/5 range. So... if that extra $4/mo (say $10, just for kicks) is worse than the $1000+ price difference, lesser expandibility, configurability, etc then you've made the choice for you. It make more sense to me, personally, to have a more general purpose machine that also does this, and at almost no initial cost (a cheap case and decent hard drive, the rest are left-over parts). To each his own.
I'm pretty sure they have given all that info out 8^) That's why I don't use it - it just collects spam. Sort of an experiment now - I was going to use it as my newsgroup e-mail spam collector, but went a different route. Now it just collects spam and doesn't get used. Oh well. Not my drive space;-)
A lot of these 'Ask/.' pieces never get on the front page... I guess it's a judgement call by the author (Taco, et. al.).
As for the real topic...
I'm not I understand leperjuice's aversion to certain options : "I can't run a single machine as a file server"... I've got a P-MMX 200 (runs up to 266 (and almost 300)) that is out of a box now, and I've got a solid MB for it that is great, except that the PS/2 port and serial ports died - not a problem for a CLI configured FS though 8^) I'm out of cases, and those came out after an upgrade, but really, the cost of building a 'low-end' box to do this, with a net card and IDE drive (or even a Promise IDE RAID setup) would be real cheap. The hardware I just described did my fileserving as well as my Masquerading for my cable modem, and never came close to running out of CPU (I've got a beefier box with 10krpm SCSI that cranks out media files, but that's for local manipulation).
I don't think that there's much reason, especially given cost, to use a 'cheap' NAS box when you could have All That And More(TM) for less cost, and it's more upgradable if you want to add more drives.
I opened a yahoo mail account about a year ago. Never sent any mail from it, and I never told anyone the address or posted it anywhere. I only check about once every month or two, but I get *plenty* of mail, usually MAKE MONEY FA$T and that junk, though I managed to attract a couple of more risque mails with my black-hole address...
Any spam e-mail that comes with an invalid reply-to address should be considered harassment... I've had a few at one of my real addresses lately that have invalid 'remove' links in them (apparently I need to be running Outlook express w/ embedded javascript or some nonsense), and the reply address is bogus. I promptly sent the entire trail to abuse@ and postmaster@ each domain that was specified...
I'm calling my governor (a well-known ex-pro wrestler), and having him sponsor a bill - the chair for spammers!!!
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Go Big Blue! (shameless plug).
Hey... they pay my salary, what can I say 8^)
>Wow, you sure seem to care. I'd say he's a lot closer to the S than you are.
;-)
I was making a point 8^) Thanks for noticing.
>You are the "homo" in ad homonym.
Hmmm.... I had a witty comeback for that one, but I'll keep in reserve until somebody cares
(nothing like a little trolling on an old thread to keep the day interesting...)
" AOL's widely available, easy-to-use Internet service"
Well, it's not 'available' the same way a server/phone trunk is marked in availability - can I connect 99.95% of the time. No. It is not high availability... of course, they say widely, and it is somewhat true - anywhere you have a phone line, you can get to AOL...
Internet service - they never really claimed to be, until recently. Their profits are from the non-internet content on their site. If you just dial into AOL as an ISP, then Netscrape your way way out of it (with the ugly stuff minimized), you are wasting time and money (but I got 500 free hours!?)...
They are getting to be a huge deal, and, like any other hopeful enterprise, take advantage of the people who are less informed, weaker minded, and those who just don't care...
I was happy when AOL first came out - it was the first cheap access to any outside content that I could get (the bills were high from the BBS calls)... Of course, then you had to add your own winsock, and do some other things, but at least it didn't feed you 'art' all day until you puked... and the chat rooms were almost real... not nearly as many gender-benders...
Installing AOL *still* screws up just about any other connections you might have. You have a VPN client. Install AOL and watch it fizzle. Another dial-up... good luck. Of course, if you have a 24/7 net connection, you don't dial-up and just connect to AOL via TCP/IP... though I heard they were getting rid of that / charging extra for it...
I don't have Time WAOLner Cable in my area, so that doesn't bother me too much... (I've ranted long enough anyway).
>It was an open invitiation, saying "We'll fill Slashdot with garbage, so it's okay for you, too!" And then they bitch about the comment noise.
Congratualtions, AC - you are part of the problem you describe. You are the 'N' in the S/N ratio. You are the 'garbage' that fills this site. You write the'nonsense and stupid posts'.
Please log in if you wish your opinions to be considered. Otherwise, don't expect anyone around here to care.seems like 'round these parts, a pseudonym is better than no nym at all...
My favorites were volume 12: P0rtman -> Portman and Volume 15: Troll -> USuck...
Yeah, they could include all of the /. comments ;-)
What about GoldenEye? ;-)
>fortunatly there have been a few people (Ronald Regan, George Bush) that have at least had the foresight
Let's not start a big political flame war here... that statement was pretty dangerous... there's a touch of reality that is needed here...
>Where would this world be if all these transmission that we rely upon went down 10 times a day?
;-)
Never used a dialup or a cable modem, have you?
and management would say something about its "synergistic imperviousness that leverages the paradigm of placement empowerment"...
Yeah, you should be able to mangle incoming packets from your network out to the T1, and receive normally from cable... the only problem is you'd need to adjust the IP address so that the other system would send the responses to the cable modem... and the gateway on the other side of the T1 would still route you... hmmm... a little tricky.
The fail-over could be more easily implemented. You'd have a couple of seconds of downtime, but that's better than a few minutes or an hour 8^)
Training is not something that is handed to you, you have to go get it. Whether it is in the form of an onsite class, local college course, downloadable course, or a 'Learn to FooBar() in 21 days' (doable in 5, of course), training is something that *you* need to take initiative to acquire. "But boss, I dunno howda do that stuff" sounds *so* much better than "... and to help me meet my project goals and increase my value to the company, I'm (taking this course/hoping you'll pay for this thing/reading a book/hoping you won't fire me/whaever)."
Of course, if your company beats you with a stick for not knowing everything, then wear a flak jacket or get a new job 8^)
just like every other Star Wars posting on /. since the theater release 8^)
While I don't grok Old Navy's commercials (or the Gap's), why, praytell, anre they on the list with those others? Have they been clubbing baby seals, and I just haven't heard? Or does that old lady really scare you? -she's not half as bad as that old guy from the Nissan commercials a while ago...
Yes, but for those of us with halfway decent equipment, it's pretty lame... I won't be happy until I hook up some Andra s to my Krell FPB ;-) oh wait... gotta win the powerball first.
Guess my Polk/Rotel/Trinitron setup will have to suffice for now...
And there is a marked quality difference on a 32"+ screen between cable/VHS (both suck) and DVD (though the remastered Monty Python doesn't really count).
If you are watching *anything* on a $150 tv/vcr combo with a mono speaker facing out the side of the back, I pity you. Andover should pay you more.
Your $7000 price point is a little wrong...
Let's see (note that I'm using components that an average person could find...)
27" Trinitron - $600 (you could get it quite a bit cheaper on sale)
Sony Mid-grade DVD - $400
An acceptable A/V receiver with 5.1 DD/DTS - $350-500 (pick your brand)
A cheap pair of decent stereo front speakers (too many brands to list here): $350
Another for the rear $350
The matching center $250
A small sub: $300
Hmmm... that's still way under $7k... maybe delivery is more where you live 8^)
And yeah.... I've got a Suncoast in town... I wouldn't trust the guys there to tell me the time of day if they were staring at a clock... they even get things wrong when they read them of of the release sheets at the counter... highly trained, minimum wage.... oh, my!
Well, I won't buy the VHS... I only have a DVD player (marching into the future)...
Got a great 5W mono tube amp from 1953 somewhere around here, too...
I'm still trying to figure out why he thinks that DVD is in competition with THX in any way... okay... so you have Dolby Digital and DTS, but many good surround decoders and power amps get THX certification because... guess what? THX and Dolby Digital have nothing to do with each other! They are complimentary, not adversarial. THX defines the quality of the reproduction (the kind of thing you *really* can't get off of a VHS cassette), and Dolby Digital is the encoding scheme....
:)
From THX.com:
--BEGIN SNIPPIT--
Is Home THX compatible with Dolby Digital and DTS?
Absolutely! The goal of the Home THX System is to accurately recreate the xperience of the film mixing theatre. All mixing theatres are capable of creating both 4 and 5.1 channel mixes. The acoustics, equalization curves, and loudspeaker arrays used in a mixing theatre remain thesame for a digital 5.1 channel soundtrack as they do for a 4 channel Dolby Surround soundtrack. Home THX Technologies are needed to reproduce these movie soundtracks accurately.
--END SNIPPIT--
So... DVD offers 5.1 channel encoding, higher S/N ratio than a VHS cassette, with greater dynamic range...
Or maybe I don't understand your point 8^)
BTW, I don't *own* a VHS player (when I bought a system after college, I opted out of that one - very minimal need.... haven't missed it yet)...
and I'm not happy with VHS sound/video degradation - I can send you my copy of Spaceballs... very worn out
Probably not a bad idea - you don't need FP for FS anyway 8^D
;-)
My argument is still based off of the overall lack-of-cost / performance / feature set argument. Plus, in the winter, you can keep your house a little warmer. 2 60 watt light bulbs waste as much energy. Buy a few compact fluorescents, and you've saved the energy you need to run your FS
Hmmm... didn't even know yahoo *had* chat rooms (not that I would visit them anyway).
>I don't think Yahoo is selling your email addr. Just for "testing", I made a brand new account and never went into a chatroom using the main name. NEVER got a single spam mail on that account.
Well... absoloutly NOTHING has ever been done with this account. No chats, no mail, no postings. Zip, zero, zilch, nil, nada (null, even)...
I *did* check something that said 'please oh please don't list me or let anyone find me', but that never works 8^)
Hmm, I just checked the power usage on my linux router / fs (with my UPS monitoring util)... less than 120 watts total usage (that's with a 7200 rpm drive in there). Of course, if I start the rc-5 client, this goes up some, but hey not too bad - certainly not hundreds. There's no extras in there (sound, etc), and if you can use power management for when you aren't doing stuff, it works rather well.
It comes to about $8 a month for electricity per month (according to my rates), and a quick figure would show one of the specific NAS boxes coming in the $3/5 range. So... if that extra $4/mo (say $10, just for kicks) is worse than the $1000+ price difference, lesser expandibility, configurability, etc then you've made the choice for you. It make more sense to me, personally, to have a more general purpose machine that also does this, and at almost no initial cost (a cheap case and decent hard drive, the rest are left-over parts). To each his own.
I'm pretty sure they have given all that info out 8^) That's why I don't use it - it just collects spam. Sort of an experiment now - I was going to use it as my newsgroup e-mail spam collector, but went a different route. Now it just collects spam and doesn't get used. Oh well. Not my drive space ;-)
A lot of these 'Ask /.' pieces never get on the front page... I guess it's a judgement call by the author (Taco, et. al.).
As for the real topic...
I'm not I understand leperjuice's aversion to certain options : "I can't run a single machine as a file server"... I've got a P-MMX 200 (runs up to 266 (and almost 300)) that is out of a box now, and I've got a solid MB for it that is great, except that the PS/2 port and serial ports died - not a problem for a CLI configured FS though 8^) I'm out of cases, and those came out after an upgrade, but really, the cost of building a 'low-end' box to do this, with a net card and IDE drive (or even a Promise IDE RAID setup) would be real cheap. The hardware I just described did my fileserving as well as my Masquerading for my cable modem, and never came close to running out of CPU (I've got a beefier box with 10krpm SCSI that cranks out media files, but that's for local manipulation).
I don't think that there's much reason, especially given cost, to use a 'cheap' NAS box when you could have All That And More(TM) for less cost, and it's more upgradable if you want to add more drives.
I opened a yahoo mail account about a year ago. Never sent any mail from it, and I never told anyone the address or posted it anywhere. I only check about once every month or two, but I get *plenty* of mail, usually MAKE MONEY FA$T and that junk, though I managed to attract a couple of more risque mails with my black-hole address...
Any spam e-mail that comes with an invalid reply-to address should be considered harassment... I've had a few at one of my real addresses lately that have invalid 'remove' links in them (apparently I need to be running Outlook express w/ embedded javascript or some nonsense), and the reply address is bogus. I promptly sent the entire trail to abuse@ and postmaster@ each domain that was specified...
I'm calling my governor (a well-known ex-pro wrestler), and having him sponsor a bill - the chair for spammers!!!
I've been told printscreen is disabled in Windows when the plugin runs... any window capture (like L-View or many others) will work just fine...
Another proposed remedy was to run VMWare and gimp capture it.
Whatever works 8^)
Cute, but a little pricey at $899 (+/- various options)... cheaper than a Vaio 8^)