Re:Nothing better to do?
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Worst Buy
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I can imagine this being concidered only a typo if the $200 savings text was automatically generated from a backend server. If there is a database with the regular retail and the sale price, if the $200 came from subtracting one from the other, then it is just a typo.
Now, how far does a typo go before it is a liability? If the web server sends bad bits? Yes it is a typo because it distributes the media, not the content, now does the database count as a content source or a media producer? If it was the former, I don't think I could concider the mis-pricing to be a typo. It would be a corporate goof, but not a typo.
Actually, it is aboriginal, but who cares anyway, oh...
Re:Disclaimer?
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It says it will cancel the order, not jack up the price and still force you to buy it. The difference is VERY important. The worst that can happen is that you have to re-order the product at the higher price.
If you host an http server on the internet, you are inviting people to look around. The nature of the web is that a web page is open unless proven otherwise. It is like a store with no locks on the door. If it is locked then I won't go in. If the door is wide open, I will go in.
If someone puts a big sign up to tell me that they don't want me to go in and I go in anyway, then I am doing something wrong, but not until.
hence the differentiation between links and deep links, whatever that is..
My assumed definitions:
Link - Meta request to access content from a discrete source that is ment to be accessed from any source.
Deep Link - Meta request to access content from a discrete source that is ment to be accessed only from a link listed in a content source authorized by their owner.
Now, define the difference on the web, and I will be impressed. Anyone can call any page a deep link if they so deam it, and this is the problem with the dual definition.
"Federally imposed mandates on the state I live in (10th)"
What, do you want rich states to leave annex themselves out of the country if they choose to? No. I don't think many would want states to have unlimited power.
Stupid example: If the US made Microsoft breakup, Washington state would potentially loose tons of workers and their economy could go to hell awfully quick. To block the breakup, Washington breaks the union and becomes a seperate nation. Then Washington implements the I-LOVE-MICROSOFT law making it illegal to dis microsoft and especially bill gate. Prison terms for repeat offenders.. I am serving a life sentence.
YEAH, well maybe I AM paranoid *jitter* *jitter*, so there mister boisterous "teller of the truth" guy, and crawl back to your "stable" lifestyle, and leave us to pertake in more useless uninformed banter, thank you very much.
Toss out all the illegal aliens and who will do the crap that nobody else wants to? Besides the 0.0001% of illegally enterant people in this country who are here for espionage and terrorism, what is their harm? They are filling out the lowest classes of society, doing whatever they can to make a living.
Plus you say throw out all those who are here illegally, well duh! How do you do that? You make an infoulable way to tell the legitimacy of the carrier's identity.
I am not disagreeing with your conclusions, just the logic you used to get their.
Call networks == Pay by the byte. 14.4kbs in current 2G networks. No matter what someone says, you will not be playing MMORPG's on the bus for at least two years, and even then, expect to pay a small fortune for the 3G costs.
That is unless there is a major shakeup in teleco's. Of course they are telco's so they'd end up going out of business before changing.
Here is a question due to a hated and ignorance toward Bluetooth. Can't someone just jump onto your bluetooth connection and leach your connection if they are within proximity, like on a bus? Also, with 100 meter bluetooth, this becomes a little more worrisome.
Hello, we are talking about 3 Million people! Can't anyone else see that this is just a shoot load of beta testers? Compuserve will probably get zounds of customer feedback saying this or that is broken, and by knowing what real users need, the dev teams can fix the bugs really need to be.
The only problem with this is that if people want highly interactive content between pages and active code on the client, there is nothing there. Java is fine and dandy in a 100% isolated environment, so it can't be used as a scripting language.
ure JavaScript and all extension thereof have the syntax and functionality, but they are missing tons of browser hooks that Microsoft has added to their browser. They are more targeting easy access applications than interactive web sites. Iweb sites were old news with MS long after they ever got traction with web developers. That is why developers use flash for interaction now. It is a lot simpler than java, and a lot more flexable than IE-DHTML..
On the other hand, the last ActiveX component I DL'ed was Terminal Server Client, which allows anyone to Terminal Server login from a web page. It is very sexy for simple remote network logins.
All of Microsoft's programming documentation contains proprietary enhancements to the spec that are VERY IE specific. They make no distinction as to which objects, events, methods are standard, and which are cooked.
Frankly, I don't care if they are using proprietary extensions, as long as they are VERY clear to people that they are when people read their docs to learn DHTML, etc..
Just one note, the consumers in this case, are large corporations and embedded systems developers. 99% of the population will never shoose their car's CPU architecture, so the point is rpetty moot in a consumer sence.
PS: AMD in MIPS is not so much of a big deal. There are MIPS in the mebedded market already, so the portting issue is only relevent if a company has used strongARM, etc.. derivatives in the past.
You state presumptions as facts, since YOU didn't give any reference to all. I guess you want me to prove that Unicorns don't exist either, right? Oh well. Here goes.
"Fact: the average slashdotter is college age or lower" Cannot prove or disprove
"Fact: the average slashdotter is male " Cannot prove or disprove, though maybe it is listed on slashdot somewhere
"Fact: the average slashdotter has not attended a high school that requires coursework in econ, statistics, or logic" One can make a generalization that most slashdotters are American, and that most Americans are not required to know Economics, Statistics, or Basic Logic, but you cannot prove that the majority of Slashdot readers don't meet these criterian. More data on the "most"'s is required, like hard statistical proportions, then one can make a better determination. The best measure would be to ask them.
"Fact: the average school teacher in America is not qualified to teach the subjects they teach, especially in science and math" It may be posted somewhere, but I am not lurking the net that to prove for/against the point.
"Fact: the average school teacher's political leanings are leftist." Probably true, but I cannot prove either way, and so can't anyone else without a poll, but I doubt I will ever see such a poll.
"Please dispute these facts with sources. Otherwise, you're just uncomfortable with the fact that I've nailed the truth." Truth is a result of analysis, not perspective. You claim the merets of Logic, but you have yet to use it throughout your posts.
I think the guy was targeting geeks who cannot afford computers, or cell phones, or *gasp* DVD players.
The BIG problem with technology is that it is almost 100% based on money. The more money you have, the more advantaged you will be in the industry. Potentially being the best coder in the woirld is one thing, but if you don't have a computer, coding means nothing, and yes, there are many many people in this world who cannot afford a bargain basement computer even if they tried.
Ok, you are now making mass generalizations about people you don't even know? Who is the bigger idiot?
You have your head stuck up your ass so deaply, that you cannot see differential opinions of others, so instead of attacking their policies, you are attacking the person, hence Ad hominen, but you knew that, right, because you are a master of logic, right?
US Politicians have FAR less direct power over you then in most countries in the world. Have you ever known people to have been displaced without compensation, emprisioned for having conflicting opinions, etc?
I think direct corruption is a derivitive of social morality, consequences, and self advantage.
Social Morality: No matter what benefit to the person, if you don't feel comfortable in breaking the law or violating personal ethics, you won't.
Consequences: How many people steal in Arabic nations? Not many because you loose a hand. Consequences are a large deterant for corruption. The consquences for corruption are very low in the US. Imagine being imprisioned for 20 years if you took a bribe. I see social justice rising in such a case.
Self Advantage: If someone tried to bribe me with a penny for a copy of proprietary software, I would laugh in their face, but if they gave me, say half the retail price, if I didn't concider it stealing, I would do it, becuase I am making MONEY $-).
Also as history tells, you don't need to be communist to kill millions of people. Today, a sadistic president of the United States could make the world a graveyard if they chose to.
With capitalism, you are shielded from the human aspect because it revolves around liquid assets, not people. With Communnism / Socializm, that is all there is, so the inflicted bruitality is directly evident.
How many people died in the industrial revolution from people working in poorly run factories? If it wasn't for socialistic viewed unionists, there would still be worker abuse in industry today. Capitalism is defined by the bottom dollar, and without social recourse, the system would run the world into a place that I wouldn't want to live in. Laissez Fair capitalism needs balance with Socialism if we ever want to keep an 'enlightented' society.
You concider collage kids to broadly. I think it is more an individual trying to make a difference in their society. Most people lack the ambitions to cause change directly, so they join groups that already have their acts together to make a difference.
There will always be followers, that is a given. To exclude them as anonymous cattle would be an over simplification of the issue. They bring with the the morals and values that they have had. Instead of fighting globalization, they could be fighting for the environment, less taxes, more social spending, less social spending, less imegration, etc..
One small note, If you read about what Media Four actually did, it wasn't really a hell of a lot of work, relatively speaking. They could already read and write mac partitions, and windows supplies the firewire support, so they just reverse engineered the mp3 storage format, which is NOT just on the raw File system, and interface it with windows. Case closed. As for the Apple technology, there was very little to find out.
Re:Considering I don't use Windows...
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I am not 100% sure of Wine's capabilities, but it needs to support windows' Firewire driver interfaces. The iPod is just a glamorized Firewire hardrive, and all that xPlay does is extend windows firewire support to include the proprietary mp3 storage format found on the iPod's disk. It also integrates with indows media player to ease use for normal users who don't want to drag and drop from explorer.
Re:Miguel DOES NOT GET IT!!! So young and naive
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Well, when you submit standards, you generally don't leave out a single system call to screw people over. The one way that I could see CLI screwing people over is the same way that java can, by tieing through the VM into the OS, making specific calls that are runtime determined, and cannot be pre-determined. So, yeah, it -is- possible to to screw over the 100% platform compatibility issue, but even without it, you still have a cross platform language to develop software from in an open source environment if you want to. Whatever Microsoft changes down the road could hurt portability, but it can never break GNOME as they have said here.
As long as the currently submitted spec of CLI is patent free, there is no fear of loss, death, destriction, or the rule of microsoft.
CLI will make it to Linux from Microsoft if you like it or not, but the question reamins, would you rather have it open or closed.
Not so much on the side of redundancy, since redundancy -can- be a good thing, but what is really important here is that everyone and their dog work on their own projects, and if all being the same are not nearly as good as they could be if they had a consolidated market, one being theoretically the best.
If I, and everyone else wasted thier time making their own text editors just to use my new keyboard layout, or variable color scheme, or minimal memory requirement, or whatever, you overlap in projects by 90% of the work. That work could have come together to make a truly innovative project instead of just a half assed attempt to clone the existing norm.
We need something like SourceForge on steroids, which seriously needs enhanced collaboration tools which will encourage outsider lone codes to work together. One of the things I hate the most about sourceforge is the lack of collaboration tools, which I think in Open source, that is one of the most important tools, that, direction, and standards.
Ok, Mark me, I am nto totally sure of what the author was tryignt o get at, but it seems liek they are saying, The community releases software, intel changes a line of code, all of a sudden they patent the libraries and their process, so that the open source development community cannot use the libraries.
Am I missing something here? The open source library is still fully usable, and the patent void, because of prior art, I mean it was released to them through that avenue;-) Or, if they extend a particular feature of the library, and patent that part of the library, well yeah, they have fair use rights to do what they want with it, and block the community from using whatever process that entails, but that is how iot always has been witrh software, so why are they crying now that.NET is in the equation? I mean, they are cloning the JDK libraries right now. Are you saying we should revolt against the GNU classpath group?
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I can imagine this being concidered only a typo if the $200 savings text was automatically generated from a backend server. If there is a database with the regular retail and the sale price, if the $200 came from subtracting one from the other, then it is just a typo.
Now, how far does a typo go before it is a liability? If the web server sends bad bits? Yes it is a typo because it distributes the media, not the content, now does the database count as a content source or a media producer? If it was the former, I don't think I could concider the mis-pricing to be a typo. It would be a corporate goof, but not a typo.
Actually, it is aboriginal, but who cares anyway, oh...
It says it will cancel the order, not jack up the price and still force you to buy it. The difference is VERY important. The worst that can happen is that you have to re-order the product at the higher price.
If you host an http server on the internet, you are inviting people to look around. The nature of the web is that a web page is open unless proven otherwise. It is like a store with no locks on the door. If it is locked then I won't go in. If the door is wide open, I will go in.
If someone puts a big sign up to tell me that they don't want me to go in and I go in anyway, then I am doing something wrong, but not until.
hence the differentiation between links and deep links, whatever that is..
My assumed definitions:
Link - Meta request to access content from a discrete source that is ment to be accessed from any source.
Deep Link - Meta request to access content from a discrete source that is ment to be accessed only from a link listed in a content source authorized by their owner.
Now, define the difference on the web, and I will be impressed. Anyone can call any page a deep link if they so deam it, and this is the problem with the dual definition.
"Federally imposed mandates on the state I live in (10th)"
What, do you want rich states to leave annex themselves out of the country if they choose to? No. I don't think many would want states to have unlimited power.
Stupid example:
If the US made Microsoft breakup, Washington state would potentially loose tons of workers and their economy could go to hell awfully quick. To block the breakup, Washington breaks the union and becomes a seperate nation. Then Washington implements the I-LOVE-MICROSOFT law making it illegal to dis microsoft and especially bill gate. Prison terms for repeat offenders.. I am serving a life sentence.
YEAH, well maybe I AM paranoid *jitter* *jitter*, so there mister boisterous "teller of the truth" guy, and crawl back to your "stable" lifestyle, and leave us to pertake in more useless uninformed banter, thank you very much.
Toss out all the illegal aliens and who will do the crap that nobody else wants to? Besides the 0.0001% of illegally enterant people in this country who are here for espionage and terrorism, what is their harm? They are filling out the lowest classes of society, doing whatever they can to make a living.
Plus you say throw out all those who are here illegally, well duh! How do you do that? You make an infoulable way to tell the legitimacy of the carrier's identity.
I am not disagreeing with your conclusions, just the logic you used to get their.
Call networks == Pay by the byte. 14.4kbs in current 2G networks. No matter what someone says, you will not be playing MMORPG's on the bus for at least two years, and even then, expect to pay a small fortune for the 3G costs.
That is unless there is a major shakeup in teleco's. Of course they are telco's so they'd end up going out of business before changing.
Here is a question due to a hated and ignorance toward Bluetooth. Can't someone just jump onto your bluetooth connection and leach your connection if they are within proximity, like on a bus? Also, with 100 meter bluetooth, this becomes a little more worrisome.
lol my bad.. I WAS upset with Microsoft for not listing which extensions were proprietary. Thanks for the correction. I used it before they did that..
Hello, we are talking about 3 Million people! Can't anyone else see that this is just a shoot load of beta testers? Compuserve will probably get zounds of customer feedback saying this or that is broken, and by knowing what real users need, the dev teams can fix the bugs really need to be.
The only problem with this is that if people want highly interactive content between pages and active code on the client, there is nothing there. Java is fine and dandy in a 100% isolated environment, so it can't be used as a scripting language.
ure JavaScript and all extension thereof have the syntax and functionality, but they are missing tons of browser hooks that Microsoft has added to their browser. They are more targeting easy access applications than interactive web sites. Iweb sites were old news with MS long after they ever got traction with web developers. That is why developers use flash for interaction now. It is a lot simpler than java, and a lot more flexable than IE-DHTML..
On the other hand, the last ActiveX component I DL'ed was Terminal Server Client, which allows anyone to Terminal Server login from a web page. It is very sexy for simple remote network logins.
DOM1++
All of Microsoft's programming documentation contains proprietary enhancements to the spec that are VERY IE specific. They make no distinction as to which objects, events, methods are standard, and which are cooked.
Frankly, I don't care if they are using proprietary extensions, as long as they are VERY clear to people that they are when people read their docs to learn DHTML, etc..
Just one note, the consumers in this case, are large corporations and embedded systems developers. 99% of the population will never shoose their car's CPU architecture, so the point is rpetty moot in a consumer sence.
PS: AMD in MIPS is not so much of a big deal. There are MIPS in the mebedded market already, so the portting issue is only relevent if a company has used strongARM, etc.. derivatives in the past.
Flamethrowers Full steam!!!
You state presumptions as facts, since YOU didn't give any reference to all. I guess you want me to prove that Unicorns don't exist either, right? Oh well. Here goes.
"Fact: the average slashdotter is college age or lower"
Cannot prove or disprove
"Fact: the average slashdotter is male "
Cannot prove or disprove, though maybe it is listed on slashdot somewhere
"Fact: the average slashdotter has not attended a high school that requires coursework in econ, statistics, or logic"
One can make a generalization that most slashdotters are American, and that most Americans are not required to know Economics, Statistics, or Basic Logic, but you cannot prove that the majority of Slashdot readers don't meet these criterian. More data on the "most"'s is required, like hard statistical proportions, then one can make a better determination. The best measure would be to ask them.
"Fact: the average school teacher in America is not qualified to teach the subjects they teach, especially in science and math"
It may be posted somewhere, but I am not lurking the net that to prove for/against the point.
"Fact: the average school teacher's political leanings are leftist."
Probably true, but I cannot prove either way, and so can't anyone else without a poll, but I doubt I will ever see such a poll.
"Please dispute these facts with sources. Otherwise, you're just uncomfortable with the fact that I've nailed the truth."
Truth is a result of analysis, not perspective. You claim the merets of Logic, but you have yet to use it throughout your posts.
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I think the guy was targeting geeks who cannot afford computers, or cell phones, or *gasp* DVD players.
The BIG problem with technology is that it is almost 100% based on money. The more money you have, the more advantaged you will be in the industry. Potentially being the best coder in the woirld is one thing, but if you don't have a computer, coding means nothing, and yes, there are many many people in this world who cannot afford a bargain basement computer even if they tried.
Ok, you are now making mass generalizations about people you don't even know? Who is the bigger idiot?
You have your head stuck up your ass so deaply, that you cannot see differential opinions of others, so instead of attacking their policies, you are attacking the person, hence Ad hominen, but you knew that, right, because you are a master of logic, right?
US Politicians have FAR less direct power over you then in most countries in the world. Have you ever known people to have been displaced without compensation, emprisioned for having conflicting opinions, etc?
I think direct corruption is a derivitive of social morality, consequences, and self advantage.
Social Morality:
No matter what benefit to the person, if you don't feel comfortable in breaking the law or violating personal ethics, you won't.
Consequences:
How many people steal in Arabic nations? Not many because you loose a hand. Consequences are a large deterant for corruption. The consquences for corruption are very low in the US. Imagine being imprisioned for 20 years if you took a bribe. I see social justice rising in such a case.
Self Advantage:
If someone tried to bribe me with a penny for a copy of proprietary software, I would laugh in their face, but if they gave me, say half the retail price, if I didn't concider it stealing, I would do it, becuase I am making MONEY $-).
Also as history tells, you don't need to be communist to kill millions of people. Today, a sadistic president of the United States could make the world a graveyard if they chose to.
With capitalism, you are shielded from the human aspect because it revolves around liquid assets, not people. With Communnism / Socializm, that is all there is, so the inflicted bruitality is directly evident.
How many people died in the industrial revolution from people working in poorly run factories? If it wasn't for socialistic viewed unionists, there would still be worker abuse in industry today. Capitalism is defined by the bottom dollar, and without social recourse, the system would run the world into a place that I wouldn't want to live in. Laissez Fair capitalism needs balance with Socialism if we ever want to keep an 'enlightented' society.
You concider collage kids to broadly. I think it is more an individual trying to make a difference in their society. Most people lack the ambitions to cause change directly, so they join groups that already have their acts together to make a difference.
There will always be followers, that is a given. To exclude them as anonymous cattle would be an over simplification of the issue. They bring with the the morals and values that they have had. Instead of fighting globalization, they could be fighting for the environment, less taxes, more social spending, less social spending, less imegration, etc..
One small note, If you read about what Media Four actually did, it wasn't really a hell of a lot of work, relatively speaking. They could already read and write mac partitions, and windows supplies the firewire support, so they just reverse engineered the mp3 storage format, which is NOT just on the raw File system, and interface it with windows. Case closed. As for the Apple technology, there was very little to find out.
I am not 100% sure of Wine's capabilities, but it needs to support windows' Firewire driver interfaces. The iPod is just a glamorized Firewire hardrive, and all that xPlay does is extend windows firewire support to include the proprietary mp3 storage format found on the iPod's disk. It also integrates with indows media player to ease use for normal users who don't want to drag and drop from explorer.
Well, when you submit standards, you generally don't leave out a single system call to screw people over. The one way that I could see CLI screwing people over is the same way that java can, by tieing through the VM into the OS, making specific calls that are runtime determined, and cannot be pre-determined. So, yeah, it -is- possible to to screw over the 100% platform compatibility issue, but even without it, you still have a cross platform language to develop software from in an open source environment if you want to. Whatever Microsoft changes down the road could hurt portability, but it can never break GNOME as they have said here.
As long as the currently submitted spec of CLI is patent free, there is no fear of loss, death, destriction, or the rule of microsoft.
CLI will make it to Linux from Microsoft if you like it or not, but the question reamins, would you rather have it open or closed.
Not so much on the side of redundancy, since redundancy -can- be a good thing, but what is really important here is that everyone and their dog work on their own projects, and if all being the same are not nearly as good as they could be if they had a consolidated market, one being theoretically the best.
If I, and everyone else wasted thier time making their own text editors just to use my new keyboard layout, or variable color scheme, or minimal memory requirement, or whatever, you overlap in projects by 90% of the work. That work could have come together to make a truly innovative project instead of just a half assed attempt to clone the existing norm.
We need something like SourceForge on steroids, which seriously needs enhanced collaboration tools which will encourage outsider lone codes to work together. One of the things I hate the most about sourceforge is the lack of collaboration tools, which I think in Open source, that is one of the most important tools, that, direction, and standards.
Ok, Mark me, I am nto totally sure of what the author was tryignt o get at, but it seems liek they are saying, The community releases software, intel changes a line of code, all of a sudden they patent the libraries and their process, so that the open source development community cannot use the libraries.
;-) Or, if they extend a particular feature of the library, and patent that part of the library, well yeah, they have fair use rights to do what they want with it, and block the community from using whatever process that entails, but that is how iot always has been witrh software, so why are they crying now that .NET is in the equation? I mean, they are cloning the JDK libraries right now. Are you saying we should revolt against the GNU classpath group?
Am I missing something here? The open source library is still fully usable, and the patent void, because of prior art, I mean it was released to them through that avenue