Ok, this is not a troll, but is problebly off topic.
I was just wondering - what if? What if MS came out with MSLinux ( just a flat rebranding of RH ). What if it was just as free as other Linux distos, but had enough closed software added onto that base that they could customized Linux versions of their apps to only run on thier distro?
Wouldn't they give corporate customers looking at linux an alternative to Windows that would keep them with MS? Better a rebranded MSLinux and MS Apps/support lic. then nothing right?
That's what I get for posting before I have my first cup o' coffee.
Maybe they think that terrorists are using IRC as well as websites etc to coordinate stuff. They must be trying to explore every avenue? Now as long as the terrorists don't find out what the CIA is up to and change tactics! oh wait... nm.
Maybe though think that terrorists are using IRC as well as websites etc to coordinate stuff. The must be trying to explore every avenue eh! Now as long as the terrorists don't find out what the CIA is up to and change tactics! oh wait... nm.
I believe that Washington served 16 years and then stepped down. It _was_ legal. I think he may have set precedent in the 4 terms only ( I am not sure if the terms may have been 8 then?), but it really never came up again until FDR
That is incorrect. FDR did NOT just decide to stay around because of emergency. It was legal at the time for the pres. to serve 4 terms. As George Washington did as well.
FDR's re-elections did however lead to the limitations on presidention terms being set to two.
Now, like prohibition, things can be repealed, so theoretically they could push to get the term limit removed back to 4, and get get GW again.
While I am not super pleased the GW won, I am more concerned that the republican extended their majority in the house of representitives.
Checks and balences was our only hope if this where to happen, and it looks like we are going to get GW's ( Halibarten (SP?)) agenda without much resistance.
I think having a party dominate both the Executive and Legislative branches of government ( REGARDLESS ) of party is an inherantly dangerous thing ( although given the "hawkish" nature of the current administration it may be more so in this instance ).
Question: *When are the British elections?
*What are the chances of a Anti-US government(PM ) getting elected?
*What would be the consequences of the first REALLY anti us gov. in brit. in the last century?
*Have the bonds from Churchill to Roosevelt been completely undone?
*Will these bring greater unitiy to the EU? At the US's expense?
*What is the average wing velocity of an unladed swallow?
"And I smile when I see that Linux desktop share is projected to overtake Apple's within a couple of years."
When it does, I'll cut and paste the first part of your post and post it back against linux.
"than building overprice proprietory systems that not many people care about/can afford."
Yeah, Apple is hardly relevent these days, can't ever hear about anything they do on any sites, geek or mainstream... oh wait...
"I would also make a gag about the Mac being the computer of choice for the gay, the metrosexual and boutiques, but I feel that the points I'm making are far too worthwhile to be modded down."
You are wrong.. this whole post is "Apple is too pricey" with some fud to dress it up. ALL of your points could be pointed at linux as well, except for the price.
It's fine to say that you think Apple products are too expensive, but the rest is shit.
The cue cards are a way for the people who run the call centers to hire less skilled/ lower wage people to do the job.
Doing tech support is a job where the better you are at it the worse it gets.
You get:
More cases - because you can handle them and others can't To fix other's messed up cases constant pressure to brain dump to cue cards or internal knowlege bases ( not nec. a bad thing ) that can sometimes let to making yourself expendable
But by doing this are you not breaking an explicit agreement with Apple made at purchase?
My understanding was/is that you agree to Apple's terms when you purchase from the iTunes store. And using this utilities to circumvent Apple's stuff breaks that agreement.
So isn't this like saying "Well, sure I agreed to those terms to use the service, but I don't agree with them because I think I should have fair use regardless of contracts/agreements so I am going to just break the agreement."
So it is ok to break this agreement? Why wouldn't you just use other services? This is choice here is there not?
I do not want to get flamed, but honestly, when I read this stuff I wonder how everyone can get so pissed off when someone breaks the GPL yet be so supportive of someone doing this kind of work?
For all of the lofty talk in the community, is it at it's root support for whatever it takes to get "what I want, free"?
I just would like to know the difference between these things which to me seem similar.
If you read some of the articles on the problem, I believe that the issue was a failure of a reduncant system while it was trying to send out the alarms - basically they had automattically failed over to a redundant "server" whose alarm queue's where hoses, so thier client displays did not get fed new alarms. I don't believe that the issue was with not seeing live data.
Also to your points on scadas - the don't show the last known value unless specifically configured to do so.
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Anyone else who thought it was a girl?
You guys hijacked a perfectly good - Bash Apple topic with a Linux on the desktop trojan horse.
Lets get back into the normal course of this topic, and resume the Apple bashing.
Btw. I don't think OSX/DARWIN is a true microkernel anyway.
How is this question flamebait?????
that is not right.
Ok, this is not a troll, but is problebly off topic.
I was just wondering - what if?
What if MS came out with MSLinux ( just a flat rebranding of RH ). What if it was just as free as other Linux distos, but had enough closed software added onto that base that they could customized Linux versions of their apps to only run on thier distro?
Wouldn't they give corporate customers looking at linux an alternative to Windows that would keep them with MS? Better a rebranded MSLinux and MS Apps/support lic. then nothing right?
Could that happen?
That's what I get for posting before I have my first cup o' coffee.
Maybe they think that terrorists are using IRC as well as websites etc to coordinate stuff. They must be trying to explore every avenue? Now as long as the terrorists don't find out what the CIA is up to and change tactics! oh wait... nm.
Maybe though think that terrorists are using IRC as well as websites etc to coordinate stuff. The must be trying to explore every avenue eh! Now as long as the terrorists don't find out what the CIA is up to and change tactics! oh wait... nm.
More than that, if I recall correctly NT was PORTED to Intel with the original dev being on another chip.
You need the clue stick, it wasn't even Jobs, retard
Ok, I was wrong about the 16 years, he served 8. But the rest of it is correct
I believe that Washington served 16 years and then stepped down.
It _was_ legal.
I think he may have set precedent in the 4 terms only ( I am not sure if the terms may have been 8 then?), but it really never came up again until FDR
That is incorrect.
FDR did NOT just decide to stay around because of emergency. It was legal at the time for the pres. to serve 4 terms. As George Washington did as well.
FDR's re-elections did however lead to the limitations on presidention terms being set to two.
Now, like prohibition, things can be repealed, so theoretically they could push to get the term limit removed back to 4, and get get GW again.
How long until an amendment removing the term limit for president is floated?
I am sorry for my poor spelling.
While I am not super pleased the GW won, I am more concerned that the republican extended their majority in the house of representitives.
Checks and balences was our only hope if this where to happen, and it looks like we are going to get GW's ( Halibarten (SP?)) agenda without much resistance.
I think having a party dominate both the Executive and Legislative branches of government ( REGARDLESS ) of party is an inherantly dangerous thing ( although given the "hawkish" nature of the current administration it may be more so in this instance ).
Question:
*When are the British elections?
*What are the chances of a Anti-US government(PM ) getting elected?
*What would be the consequences of the first REALLY anti us gov. in brit. in the last century?
*Have the bonds from Churchill to Roosevelt been completely undone?
*Will these bring greater unitiy to the EU? At the US's expense?
*What is the average wing velocity of an unladed swallow?
Those are languages, this is a language + rad environment.
Just out of curiosity, what are these rad environments for these languages?
Replace instances of HURD and FSF/GNU with Duke Nukem and whomever made/makes it.
Articles that take more time to load than to read?
The fact that I have a mac is itself a rejection of windows. It's not like I run OSX on windows only because XP isn't available.
Maybe he is referring to the Windows Update release of XP SP2?
Just to clarify -
The same minus point can be made, and some of the same strengths apply.
"And I smile when I see that Linux desktop share is projected to overtake Apple's within a couple of years."
When it does, I'll cut and paste the first part of your post and post it back against linux.
"than building overprice proprietory systems that not many people care about/can afford."
Yeah, Apple is hardly relevent these days, can't ever hear about anything they do on any sites, geek or mainstream... oh wait...
"I would also make a gag about the Mac being the computer of choice for the gay, the metrosexual and boutiques, but I feel that the points I'm making are far too worthwhile to be modded down."
You are wrong.. this whole post is "Apple is too pricey" with some fud to dress it up. ALL of your points could be pointed at linux as well, except for the price.
It's fine to say that you think Apple products are too expensive, but the rest is shit.
The cue cards are a way for the people who run the call centers to hire less skilled/ lower wage people to do the job.
Doing tech support is a job where the better you are at it the worse it gets.
You get:
More cases - because you can handle them and others can't
To fix other's messed up cases
constant pressure to brain dump to cue cards or internal knowlege bases ( not nec. a bad thing ) that can sometimes let to making yourself expendable
But by doing this are you not breaking an explicit agreement with Apple made at purchase?
My understanding was/is that you agree to Apple's terms when you purchase from the iTunes store. And using this utilities to circumvent Apple's stuff breaks that agreement.
So isn't this like saying
"Well, sure I agreed to those terms to use the service, but I don't agree with them because I think I should have fair use regardless of contracts/agreements so I am going to just break the agreement."
So it is ok to break this agreement?
Why wouldn't you just use other services? This is choice here is there not?
I do not want to get flamed, but honestly, when I read this stuff I wonder how everyone can get so pissed off when someone breaks the GPL yet be so supportive of someone doing this kind of work?
For all of the lofty talk in the community, is it at it's root support for whatever it takes to get "what I want, free"?
I just would like to know the difference between these things which to me seem similar.
Looking for a better understanding.
If you read some of the articles on the problem, I believe that the issue was a failure of a reduncant system while it was trying to send out the alarms - basically they had automattically failed over to a redundant "server" whose alarm queue's where hoses, so thier client displays did not get fed new alarms. I don't believe that the issue was with not seeing live data.
Also to your points on scadas - the don't show the last known value unless specifically configured to do so.