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Internet Meltdown Predicted for Tomorrow

Kobalt writes "A few news services are reporting that Russian computer expert, Aleksandr Gostev from Kaspersky Labs, has predicted that a large chunk of the Internet will be shut down tomorrow by cyber terrorists."

914 comments

  1. google..... by Ziak · · Score: 5, Funny

    as long as google dosen't go down we can live on the caches!!!!!

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    1. Re:google..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Huh! Maybe YOU can, but some brain-donor at our corporate IT thinktank (actually, stinktank's more like it) thought it would be a good idea to block all access to "IP-as-URL" sites...guess what Yahoo! cache links contain!

    2. Re:google..... by SoSueMe · · Score: 4, Funny

      Anybody got a mirror?

    3. Re:google..... by Nexcet · · Score: 0

      sure their a target, major media provider. no else use not to :|

    4. Re:google..... by Iamthefallen · · Score: 5, Funny

      And just in case it does go down, here's the google cache for it.

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    5. Re:google..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's OK, I have the internet backed up on tape.

    6. Re:google..... by epsalon · · Score: 5, Funny

      Mirror here

    7. Re:google..... by PingPongBoy · · Score: 3, Funny

      Maybe it's better to have it down. Then I'll start looking at all my saved pages.

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    8. Re:google..... by applecore · · Score: 1

      Don't forget www.archive.org. And it's cache! How long before each of us has our own Petabyte cluster, and our own cached copy of the internet for use in such cases of terror?!?

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    9. Re:google..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Well, I have the first 25% on floppy, just in case we need some redundancy...

    10. Re:google..... by MayonakaHa · · Score: 1

      First good laugh of the day heheh.

    11. Re:google..... by j_rhoden · · Score: 5, Funny

      Anyone else find the fact that it still says "Google is not affiliated with the authors of this page nor responsible for its content." on that page amusing?

    12. Re:google..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And here.

    13. Re:google..... by amerinese · · Score: 3, Insightful

      50% of people are NOT dumber than the average person. Think distributions with heavy tails, such as the wealth distribution--a few people are really, really rich, bumping the average up, but having no effect on the dense middle part of the distribution. 50% of people are dumber than the median person, and such a person does not exist if the set has an even (non-odd) population.

    14. Re:google..... by L.+VeGas · · Score: 5, Funny

      50% of people are more irritating than the average person.

    15. Re:google..... by foobsr · · Score: 1

      You can also download the Internet here, just to be on the safe side ...

      CC.

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    16. Re:google..... by ArsonSmith · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      So it's very likly that more than 50% of people are dumber than the average.

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    17. Re:google..... by ahaning · · Score: 2, Informative

      I thought of this, too...for about 3 seconds.

      If you've ever tried to get anything out of IA's Wayback Machine, you'll find that most of the time, what you're looking for isn't there, or the system just can't find it. 85% of the time, the pages I get are error pages, then it's hard to actually get the version of the page that you wanted.

      I love the Archive for everything else they've done, but the Wayback Machine could use some work.

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    18. Re:google..... by Ctrl-Z · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      I would expect dumbness to have something closer to a normal distribution. In that case, roughly 50% of the population would be dumber than the average. Is there a reference for the distribution of dumbness?

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    19. Re:google..... by Dizzle · · Score: 1

      4 years, 3 months, and a few days. Except Jeremiah Candon of Triston, Utah. He hates Petabyte clusters.

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    20. Re:google..... by enrico_suave · · Score: 2, Informative

      the download the internet thing would be funnier if it worked in firefox =(

      e.

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    21. Re:google..... by Aardpig · · Score: 1

      Think distributions with heavy tails, such as the wealth distribution

      But I thought intelligence (or, rather, IQ) was normally distributed -- hence the name of the controversial book The Bell Curve . A normal distribution is symmetric, so the claim of the OP is correct!

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    22. Re:google..... by Uber+Banker · · Score: 1

      Well... no proof or evidence provided in either post, but 50% are dumber than the average where median defined as average, instead of mean which I assume is what you meant - in a normal distribution mean=median(=mode) (well, if n is odd (0.5-1/n) are dumber.

      I don't think it's valid to say average is interpreted as mean, and if you say most people do, that just means most people are dumber than me.

    23. Re:google..... by Carbonite · · Score: 1

      The intelligence distribution is very different from the wealth distribution. Some ultra-rich individuals may have several orders of magnitude more wealth than the average person. A billionare could easily have 10000x the average US wealth. No one has 10000x the intelligence of the average person. Perhaps you could make the case for extremely limited areas (i.e. Hawking in astrophysics), but never for overall intelligence.

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    24. Re:google..... by Uber+Banker · · Score: 5, Funny

      Hey... no need to worry, just download the intraweb onto a couple of CDs. I just used PKZIP and managed to fit it only my MP3 player.

    25. Re:google..... by aardvarkjoe · · Score: 1
      50% of people are NOT dumber than the average person.
      Wrong on two counts.
      • The word "average" does not always refer to the arithmetic mean.
      • The median may be the same as the mean -- in fact, IQ scores assume a Gaussian distribution of intelligence, which suggests that the median and the mean are the same.
      Maybe the statement is not true, but you can't say that for certain.
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    26. Re:google..... by red+floyd · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yeah, but my daughter is busy admiring herself in it right now.

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    27. Re:google..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If google went down, it'd usher a whole new generation of geeks onto thrid base... just make sure you're first in line

    28. Re:google..... by dtfinch · · Score: 3, Funny

      49% of people are dumber than most.

    29. Re:google..... by NoMercy · · Score: 1

      "Google is not affiliated with the authors of this page nor responsible for its content."

      Perhaps they should check it's not one of there own pages before saying that?

    30. Re:google..... by Fulcrum+of+Evil · · Score: 2, Funny

      A billionare could easily have 10000x the average US wealth.

      Isn't the mean net worth around $1000? That would make the average billionaire worth 1e6 times the average.

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    31. Re:google..... by Fnkmaster · · Score: 1, Offtopic
      Murray and Hernstein, the Bell Curve? Seriously, I don't know if you believe that IQ really corresponds to what most of us mean when we say "smartness" or "dumbness", but it appears that these sorts of tests measure something that has some vague correspondence to the meaning we ascribe to being smart or dumb, though it's very far from perfect, and certainly fails to measure a lot of important characteristics of the mind that can be very valuable.


      Anyway, I don't think IQ distributions are perfectly normal, but they do look pretty roughly bell-like (if you don't believe that IQ has any correlation to intelligence, then I guess you can't really conclude much from the bell-like distribution). Of course, if you use some other, non-linearized scale for measuring intelligence than the mean and median will be nowhere near each other (i.e. if you consider the difference between Goethe and Joe Sixpack to be substantially more or substantially less than the difference between Joe Sixpack and a cucumber).

    32. Re:google..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      No, dummy! ;)

      If it had a normal distribution a significant portion of the population would be very close to average-- indistinguishably so, in fact. Technically you might be able to compute the actual average IQ as, for example, 112.872, and then probably about half the people would fall below this. That much you surmise correctly.

      However, most of the people tested for IQ would measure so close to this average that we would not really notice a difference between those above and below that average. This is further compounded by the fact that IQ is not static for an individual, nor is there an infallible standard way to measure this. So not only do we have the bulk of the population very near the average, but we have a margin of error which makes it difficult to truly say which side of the average they actually fall to.

    33. Re:google..... by Iamthefallen · · Score: 2, Informative

      I'm always amazed that my sig generates such heated debate by nitpickers. But after the first dozen or three times I took the time to write a JE about why I chose it.

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    34. Re:google..... by Donny+Smith · · Score: 1

      Hey that's really funny!

      On the subject of average dumbness raised in other posts - George Carlin postulated that 50% of people are, and I quote, "fucking stupid" (since they are stupider than the average person).

    35. Re:google..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny
    36. Re:google..... by shawn(at)fsu · · Score: 3, Funny

      You laugh but I used to work at the computer lab for Florida State U. anyway before all the dorms got ethernet and you had to come to the computer lab and make a copy of the dial up networking software and othet software like eudora etc. Anyway People would walk in and show me their 5 3.5 floppies and ask what they needed to do to copy the internet to their disks.

      I would respond with "first off, your going to need more disks"

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    37. Re:google..... by mhesseltine · · Score: 1
      "Google is not affiliated with the authors of this page nor responsible for its content."

      Perhaps they should check it's not one of there own pages before saying that?

      The reason they don't check that is, then they have a special condition to write code for, which is one more opportunity for bugs. It's the same reason that they cache the www.google.com homepage.

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    38. Re:google..... by xlcus · · Score: 5, Interesting

      It will mirror any site for you...

      Just stick ".mirror.sytes.org" as the end of a domain name.

      e.g. http://www.google.com.mirror.sytes.org/

    39. Re:google..... by C0vardeAn0nim0 · · Score: 0, Redundant

      did you check the disclaimer ???

      "Google is not affiliated with the authors of this page nor responsible for its content."

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    40. Re:google..... by severoon · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I don't know about wealth distribution...I think you probably should have went with the light bulb example. For those of you who don't know this, this will be an interesting contribution to this OT discussion. :)

      When you buy a light bulb, the packaging says, "average lifetime 1000 hours". Are you likely to get 1000 hours out of your light bulb, then? No, in fact it is very unlikely. Why's that?

      As it happens, light bulb filaments are finicky creatures. They will virtually burn forever if there are no microscopic defects in them and the amount of air inside the bulb is below a certain amount. Slight imperfections in the filament cause hot spots, and those hot spots in the presence of even a slightly higher-than-normal amount of air burn several times hotter than the rest of the filament, significantly shortening the life time of the bulb. When a "freak" comes out that is nearly microscopically perfect, the heat is evenly distributed across the entire filament and the lifetime can be hundreds or thousands of times longer than the lowest 99%. So, by including these outliers in the averages that only make up 1%, but live potentially thousands of times longer, the bulb companies are able to say that the average lifespan of the bulb is 1000 hours when actually it's probably closer to 600 hours, and it's completely true.

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    41. Re:google..... by Destoo · · Score: 2, Funny

      It's a Windows mirror, as you can see there's a defect in the bottom rigth corner of it.
      It's bound to crash sooner or later.

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    42. Re:google..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can't argue with that!

    43. Re:google..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I keep a rolling 7-day snapshot of the interweb on my iPod!

    44. Re:google..... by Colazar · · Score: 1
      How about this slight correction, then, to silence the nitpickers:

      "Remember, 50% of people are *at least as dumb* as the average person."

      Not that you have to care.

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    45. Re:google..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful
    46. Re:google..... by Citizen+of+Earth · · Score: 1

      49% of people are dumber than most.

      (50 - epsilon)%, dummy.

    47. Re:google..... by FictionPimp · · Score: 1

      Its not that big, i just reached the end of the internet. Only took me 6 hours on my cable modem.

    48. Re:google..... by SomeGuyFromCA · · Score: 5, Informative

      You mean like this one?

      This bulb, in a fire station in Livermore, CA, has been burning since 1901.

      Constantly.

      One hundred three years.

      Here's the webcam.

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    49. Re:google..... by MarkGriz · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Clever. A shame it doesn't mirror the images as well.

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    50. Re:google..... by applecore · · Score: 1

      With a sample size of about eight, the Wayback Machine is 100% for me. One of them required some non-trivial search options to get the www.xxx.edu/~homedir to give me my homedir. Yup, in that case it could have used some improvement (but a search today gives me immediately the content I worked hard to get months ago, so apparently someone fed the chimps and they went back to work ;)

      To agree a bit more that yes it needs work, I was a bit thwarted the other day when I learned it doesn't have much content younger than 6 months. I referred to there a friend whose site was hacked and whose data was lost, touting that he could get it all back. Well he did, but only up until about Dec. 03. We'll check back in 6 months for the rest

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    51. Re:google..... by stienman · · Score: 4, Funny

      And in case that goes down, here's the cache of the cache of google: http://google.com/search?q=cache:www.google.com/se arch?q=cache:www.google.com

      It's not currently cached, though, so I submitted several times so Google gets it on its next search of its search of its search engine.

      Once it goes through, we really ought to do it again for a fourth level of redundancy.

      -Adam

    52. Re:google..... by b0lt · · Score: 1

      Thing is, with unbalanced, asymmetrical distributions, things go screwy. For example, say we have 3 people, A, B, and C. A has a value of 1, B has a value of 2, and C has a value of 100. (1+2+100)/2 = 51.5. That means that 66% of people are worse than arithmatic mean. This is feasibly possible, because we are not polling the general population, but a certain subgroup, which generally has no computer skills ;)

      -b0lt

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    53. Re:google..... by dgatwood · · Score: 4, Funny
      Just goes to show that they don't make 'em like they used to. And if tens of thousands of Cisco routers come crashing down tomorrow, it will just go to show that they do. :-)

      Sorry, couldn't resist a little on-topic humor....

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    54. Re:google..... by _anomaly_ · · Score: 1

      ...but mirror.sytes.org does mirror the images.
      Did you follow the link?

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    55. Re:google..... by Cat_Byte · · Score: 2, Funny
      49% of people are dumber than most.

      87% of all statistics are made up.

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    56. Re:google..... by danila · · Score: 1

      Obviously the Internet Archive has one
      here.

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    57. Re:google..... by ReTay · · Score: 4, Funny

      "50% of people are NOT dumber than the average person"

      You have never worked tech support have you?

    58. Re:google..... by Angostura · · Score: 1

      I love this post.

      It says WRONG.

      and then goes on to explain why it might be right and concludes with a shrug.

    59. Re:google..... by johnnyb · · Score: 2, Funny

      27% of made-up statistics are right on the money.

    60. Re:google..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So...
      If Goethe > Joe Sixpack
      and Joe Sixpack > cucumber

      then
      Goethe is taller than a cucumber.
      Great.

    61. Re:google..... by aardvarkjoe · · Score: 1

      You're correct, of course. My issue with the person who posted his "correction" was that his reply was very combative, and yet was asserting something that has just as little evidence as the original statement. Unless somebody can come up with evidence that the distribution is unbalanced -- hard to do, given that quantifying intelligence is very difficult -- the assumption that 50% of people are below average is at least reasonable.

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    62. Re:google..... by war3rd · · Score: 1

      Eh, thats BS... 48% of all statistics are made up anyway....

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    63. Re:google..... by Cat_Byte · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      that is only correct 50% of the time.

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    64. Re:google..... by cursion · · Score: 1

      Assuming the average person is in debt (lay offs, off shoring, etc.) - wouldnt this 'rich' person be in massive debt?

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    65. Re:google..... by Jonny+Ringo · · Score: 2, Funny

      Shut up dude! My boss might be reading this. I'm hoping to get the day off tomorrow!

    66. Re:google..... by johnnyb · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      Here's the big question (on a somewhat serious note): are made-up statistics any less accurate than those done "scientifically" but with bad questions and bad methodology?

    67. Re:google..... by GlamdringLFO · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You have just downloaded a *LOT* of pr0n.

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    68. Re:google..... by spectral · · Score: 2, Funny

      But.. didn't you ever go to school where they told you that "mean means average?" What would you expect 'average' to mean?

    69. Re:google..... by xlcus · · Score: 1

      It only mirrors the images on Internet Explorer unfortunately...

    70. Re:google..... by _anomaly_ · · Score: 1

      ahhhh... good call. that is unfortunate.

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    71. Re:google..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      slashdotted... anyone got a Google cache of this Google mirror?

    72. Re:google..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And at least one of them is retarded.

    73. Re:google..... by jaredmauch · · Score: 0, Redundant
    74. Re:google..... by Toresica · · Score: 1

      No, it would be less. Remember? "There is no limit to human stupidity"?

    75. Re:google..... by coronaride · · Score: 1

      I heard it was 72%! Anyhow, I just did a quick study and came to the conclusion that it was only 19% - quite shocking!

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    76. Re:google..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't Click on this link at work! I almost had a stroke trying to catch the window to close it.

    77. Re:google..... by TopShelf · · Score: 2, Funny

      The internet may well go down, but AOL will be OK, right???

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    78. Re:google..... by PingPongBoy · · Score: 1

      If the Internet is down, anyone can run their own Google server. A vacuous truth about a vacuum - if my personal Google mirrors the Internet ...

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    79. Re:google..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Forteef percent of all people know that.

    80. Re:google..... by keester · · Score: 1

      The most common "average" is mean: Add all of the hours and divide by the number of bulbs.

      Another average, median, would be the exact middle. That is, halfway from the longest lifed bulb and the shortest lifed bulb. That number would likely be pretty high too, but for whatever reasons they aren't using that "average."

      The final "average" I'm going to talk about (you can all thank me later for this diatribe), is called mode. What a fascinating average it is, too! By definition, mode is the most frequently occuring value in the set. Perhaps this 1000 hours is right around the mode? That would be a good estimate of bulb lifetime me thinks.

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    81. Re:google..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      stupider is not a word dumbass

    82. Re:google..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      63% of all people know that

    83. Re:google..... by MoogMan · · Score: 1

      No, not really.

    84. Re:google..... by MoogMan · · Score: 3, Funny

      50% of people are NOT dumber than the average person.

      Well, erm... obviously.

    85. Re:google..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tech support clients often are self-selecting for idiocy.

    86. Re:google..... by rnd() · · Score: 2, Informative

      just put an entry in your hosts file corresponding to the IP, and then type the non-numeric link into a browser window... not quite as slick as simply clicking on a link, but it should allow you to circumvent the policy, so long as you are able to modify your hosts file.

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    87. Re:google..... by Fulcrum+of+Evil · · Score: 1

      wouldnt this 'rich' person be in massive debt?

      Jacko, is that you?

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    88. Re:google..... by David+Gould · · Score: 2, Insightful


      Don't make me come over there and explain (again) the difference between "average" and "median".

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    89. Re:google..... by j_rhoden · · Score: 1

      Fair enough...

    90. Re:google..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Byron the Bulb?

    91. Re:google..... by EvilTwinSkippy · · Score: 1
      Assuming the average person is in debt (lay offs, off shoring, etc.) - wouldnt this 'rich' person be in massive debt?

      Except with imaginary money, multiplying a negative imaginary my a negative imaginary actually yields a postive amount.

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    92. Re:google..... by lJlolel · · Score: 0

      If you really knew statistics, then you would understand that the median is another measure of the average, technically.

    93. Re:google..... by ShawnDoc · · Score: 1

      They've never had a balckout or did they have UPS systems 100 years ago?

    94. Re:google..... by BrianH · · Score: 1

      The bulb actually does go out during power failures, and has been switched off three times while being moved, so you can't really say that it's been burning nonstop for over a century, but it's total downtime, from what I understand, is less than three days.

      What can I say...I used to work in Dublin, got REALLY bored one day, and drove over to see this thing. It throws almost no light and honestly resembles a heated vacuum tube more than it does a light bulb, but it's only intended as a nightlight anyway.

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    95. Re:google..... by iminplaya · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but a light bulb never won an "employee of the week" award.

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    96. Re:google..... by schmoo.me · · Score: 0

      mirror cache :D
      (i expect someone else did this already)

    97. Re:google..... by Colazar · · Score: 1
      I think you probably should have went with the light bulb example.

      And going even farther OT, every time someone talks about light bulb lifetimes I'm reminded of an example from my college statistics class.

      The professor put a chart of numbers from a study he'd been working on up on the overhead, (I forget why) and said:

      Now, say these are the lifespans of light bulbs in hours...well, they're actually the life spans of AIDS patients in days, but lets just say they're light bulbs.

      The main conclusion I drew from that lecture, was that, unfortunately, AIDS patients made lousy light bulbs.

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    98. Re:google..... by FryGuy1013 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      67% of people are more gulliable than average.

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    99. Re:google..... by schmoo.me · · Score: 0

      man cannot live on cache alone.....

    100. Re:google..... by DrYak · · Score: 1
      the bulb companies are able to say that the average lifespan of the bulb is 1000 hours when actually it's probably closer to 600 hours, and it's completely true.
      That's the difference between "mean" and "median".
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    101. Re:google..... by 7x7 · · Score: 1

      http://www.centennialbulb.org/photos.htm

      Bulb cam.

    102. Re:google..... by tylernt · · Score: 1

      Whoa, I don't think that will work unless you modify the host file on the proxy server. Your browser sends the hostname to the proxy server, which will in turn do its own DNS lookup for that hostname. It's not going to consult your hosts file. :)

      No, I think the only thing you can do is an nslookup on the IP and hope it comes back with a hostname. If so, just use that hostname in the address bar of your browser in place of the IP. If not, you're SOL.

      Or, ask your IT guy, nicely, to please change his proxy ACLs. If he refuses, beat him with a clue stick.

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    103. Re:google..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I may be the BOFH that puts non-work-related sites in a Squid Delay Pool of 64Kbps, but even I wouldn't do such an assinine thing. What a dork.

    104. Re:google..... by HogynCymraeg · · Score: 0

      Tell me you mean 49%.... please!

    105. Re:google..... by welsh+git · · Score: 2, Informative

      or pay $10 a year to get your own domain, and add your own names to map the ip addresses.

      Even if you don't have a server etc. a lot of domain-registration places now have web interfaces where you can modify and add entries via their servers.

      If you get the domain mydomain.com you can just add dodgysite.mydomain.com in your dns config and use that!

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    106. Re:google..... by rnd() · · Score: 1

      Oh, I didn't realize there was a proxy server... but if there is then my 'solution' might not work... but it still might be worth a try... :)

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    107. Re:google..... by Simon+Garlick · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yes! The problem of not being able to visit websites can be avoided with a quick visit to a website!

      No... wait...

    108. Re:google..... by awful · · Score: 1

      Check out the awards section. The congratulatory certificate from the State Senate of California looks a bit less than imposing, thanks to the use of centre-justified MS Comic Sans

    109. Re:google..... by welsh+git · · Score: 1

      Well, the grandparent was saying his problem was with accessing websites by IP only, and whilst the parent said he was SOL, I suggested a way around it, which wouldn't require any visits to IP only websites.....

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    110. Re:google..... by SomeGuyFromCA · · Score: 1

      In fact, a power failure is what will probably one day kill it - not the failure, exactly, but the power surge upon restarting.

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    111. Re:google..... by Trinition · · Score: 1

      The company in Ohio that made the bulb, Shelby Electric, is no longer operating as an independent entity because they were absorbed by GE back in 1914. And somehow, GE doesn't seem to produce any 100 year light bulbs! I wonder why...

    112. Re:google..... by The+Snowman · · Score: 1

      It will mirror any site for you...

      Too bad it does not also reverse CSS, for example, making left-align into right-align, border-left to border-right, and so on. Also, it will not mirror itself. That would have been ironic.

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    113. Re:google..... by Ralph+Wiggam · · Score: 1

      That bulb is a 4 Watt carbon filament bulb. It only generates anough light to be a nightlight. That's why GE doesn't produce them.

      -B

    114. Re:google..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=stupider

    115. Re:google..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      average life span is calculated by the life span of 50% of test sample of bulbs

      http://www.iesna.org/

    116. Re:google..... by jnana · · Score: 1
      Last I checked, median was a type of average, like mean and mode.

      Is that wrong?

    117. Re:google..... by edunbar93 · · Score: 1

      50% of people are NOT dumber than the average person.

      You don't understand how IQ works. It's completely graded to the curve, therefore, *exactly* half of the people have an IQ of 100 or below. And *exactly* half of the people have an IQ of 100 or above.

      That and you obviously surround yourself with smart people. Otherwise you'd be made painfully aware of this fact.

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    118. Re:google..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And 43% of human beings spell poorer than the average monkey. Wats yor point?

    119. Re:google..... by tylernt · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "or pay $10 a year to get your own domain, and add your own names to map the ip addresses"

      Good idea... but not quite there either. DNS Time To Lives are usually 12-72 hours, so it could be days before you could view your desired website after updating your domain. You'd have to have your own DNS server out on the internet, point to your own DNS server when you registered the domain name, then set the TTL on your DNS records to like 1 minute or something. Then have a web-based DNS administration tool for your server.

      Arright, I think we have a solution! :)

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    120. Re:google..... by dtfinch · · Score: 1
    121. Re:google..... by ketamine-bp · · Score: 1

      you are too _mean_, man.

    122. Re:google..... by Old+Wolf · · Score: 1

      I'm sure there's a Russell's Paradox in there somewhere, but I can't think of it just now..

    123. Re:google..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe so, but the hypothetical median person is pretty dumb.

    124. Re:google..... by Trinition · · Score: 1

      Heck, I'd buy them. My family is apparently incapable of turning off lights, so if they were only burnin 4W all day long, it'd save me a lot of money!

    125. Re:google..... by surprise_audit · · Score: 1

      Actually, yes, probably... As long as you dial-in to AOL and don't expect to be able to reach anything other than AOL content...

    126. Re:google..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dear moderator,
      Thanks for trying but you have been meta-moderated as dumbass for wasting negative mod points. Try modding stuff up that deserves it or finding real trolls or at least getting a sense of humor.

    127. Re:google..... by Slime-dogg · · Score: 1

      And if 100% of all people are average?

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    128. Re:google..... by David+Gould · · Score: 1


      The way they teach it in elementary school, "average" is the sum of a bunch of numbers, divided by the number of numbers. I.e., It's exactly the same as what we more-mathematically-advanced folk call the "arithmetic mean".

      The fancier term "measure of central tendency" refers collectively to the kind of thing that "mean", "median", and "mode" all are. It's true, I guess, that when speaking very loosely, you might use "average" to mean "measure of central tendency", but usually, I think, people who know enough math to be aware of the difference would know which specific term they mean and use the correct one, and if "average" is used at all, it's in the elementary-school sense, i.e., synonymous with "mean", when you really mean "mean".

      Even if you do use "average" to refer collectively to all of the specific terms, using it to specifically but ambiguously mean any particular method of averaging other than "mean" is considered harmful. And confusing the median with the mean is especially bad, because the technical difference between them is often so very important.

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    129. Re:google..... by Paradise+Pete · · Score: 1
      50% of people are dumber than the median person

      yeah, but I'll bet that in this particular case the mean and the median are just about the same.

    130. Re:google..... by Paradise+Pete · · Score: 1
      My family is apparently incapable of turning off lights, so if they were only burnin 4W all day long, it'd save me a lot of money!

      Yeah, but you'd lose it all back on bandages and broken vases from everybody bumping into stuff all the time.

    131. Re:google..... by ArsonSmith · · Score: 1

      Well, there is kind of a limit, first is the absolut limit of Zero, then there is the basic limit of what is needed to actually function as a living human, If I remember right its somewhere between 30-50 IQ. Just enough to know how to breath and pump blood etc. While Genious' limit has got to be fairly high. What would be a 100% on a comprehensive IQ test's score?

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    132. Re:google..... by RobertB-DC · · Score: 1

      Also, it will not mirror itself. That would have been ironic.

      It may not mirror itself, but here's a mirror of a mirror!

      http://www.alltooflat.com/geeky/elgoog/
      plus
      mirror.sytes.org
      equals
      hours of mirrored fun!

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    133. Re:google..... by jnana · · Score: 1
      Oh, thanks for the explanation. I understand now. I generally use 'average' with most people, if I think they might not know the different between mean, median, and mode--and that is most people--but I have one in mind myself when I say 'average.' I guess on slashdot though that it doesn't make sense to think that most people don't know the different between arithmetic mean and median, so there is no reason at all to use the generic, ambiguous 'considered harmful' superclass term.

      Just goes to show that it isn't always best to refer to something by its interface!

    134. Re:google..... by Ctrl-Z · · Score: 1

      I said nothing of IQ. I referred only to dumbness. Besides, my only point was that dumbness has a normal distribution, so roughly half the people would be below the average. I don't care how easy it is to measure that.

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  2. Awww man.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    You mean I might actually get to go outside and go to the beach and soak up a few rays??? Jeez what a horrid loss....

    1. Re:Awww man.... by smooth+wombat · · Score: 2, Funny
      You mean I might actually get to go outside and go to the beach and soak up a few rays???

      No, because as you are no doubt aware, vampires vaporize on contact with sunlight.

      Therefore, not only will the internet have a meltdown tomorrow, so will you.

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    2. Re:Awww man.... by MarkGriz · · Score: 3, Funny

      Or better yet... hundreds of thousands of software developers, engineers and scientists will stop reading slashdot and will put in a full day of work, leading to incredible breakthroughs and soaring productivity.

      Ahhh, screw that! Let's have giant toga party instead.

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    3. Re:Awww man.... by MrScience · · Score: 1

      You must not live in Seattle.

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    4. Re:Awww man.... by schmoo.me · · Score: 0

      Where do I buy a giant toga?

  3. Which tomorrow? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Could they be a bit clearer on which TZ they're basing the attack? For me, it's already "tomorrow" in Japan.

    1. Re:Which tomorrow? by ZoneGray · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well, according to the eWeek article, it may or may not be tomorrow, it may or may not be related to cyber-terrorism, it may or may not happen at all, and it may or may not be simply an excuse for a security company to get some free publicity. Other than that, I think the report was as clear as possible.

      I may or may not go harden my servers in preparation.

    2. Re:Which tomorrow? by borgdows · · Score: 0

      tomorrow never dies! so does the internet :)

    3. Re:Which tomorrow? by lucabrasi999 · · Score: 1, Funny
      it may or may not

      Sounds like eWeek hired a bunch of economists to write their articles:

      "The economy may improve, but then again, it may not."



    4. Re:Which tomorrow? by teeker · · Score: 5, Funny

      it may or may not be tomorrow, it may or may not be related to cyber-terrorism, it may or may not happen at all, and it may or may not be simply an excuse for a security company to get some free publicity.

      Well then, it meets all the requirements.....time to raise the national terror alert to ORANGE! w00t!

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    5. Re:Which tomorrow? by AKnightCowboy · · Score: 4, Funny
      Could they be a bit clearer on which TZ they're basing the attack? For me, it's already "tomorrow" in Japan.

      I was under the impression everyone used the standard time zone EST5EDT. Are you saying there are places in the world that don't? That seems kind of silly to me. Since Washington, D.C. is the capital of the free world I propose that all world citizens use EST5EDT as their time zone for consistency.

    6. Re:Which tomorrow? by FuzzyBad-Mofo · · Score: 1

      Is that higher or lower than alert level "Moving Pictures"?

    7. Re:Which tomorrow? by jazman_777 · · Score: 1
      "The economy may improve, but then again, it may not."

      That's why you want to hire one-handed economists, so they can't say, "on the other hand."

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    8. Re:Which tomorrow? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We demand rigidly-defined areas of doubt and uncertainty!

    9. Re:Which tomorrow? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well then, it meets all the requirements.....time to raise the national terror alert to ORANGE! w00t!

      Considering how meaningful the "national terror alert system" has been, I say forget orange, raise the level to BANANA!

      Or even better, GUAVA-MANGO-STRAWBERRY!

    10. Re:Which tomorrow? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      These guys really need to look to the Dept. of Homeland Security for insight on how to properly FUD the public. I just found out about this today!

    11. Re:Which tomorrow? by fermion · · Score: 1

      This must be Thursday. I could never get the hang of Thursdays.

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    12. Re:Which tomorrow? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or as Douglams Adams wrote in H2G2:

      A sudden commotion destroyed the moment: the door flew open and two angry men wearing the coarse faded blue robes and belts of Cruxwan University burst into the room, thrusting aside the ineffectual flunkie who tried to bar their way.

      "We demand admission!" shouted the younger of the two men, elbowing a pretty young secretary in the throat.

      "Come on," shouted the other one, "you can't keep us out!" He pushed a junior programmer back through the door.

      "We demand that you can't keep us out!" bawled the younger one, though he was now firmly inside the room and no further attempts were being made to stop him.

      "Who are you?" said Lunkwill, rising angrily from his seat. "What do you want?"

      "I am Majikthise!" announced the older one.

      "And I demand that I am Vroomfondel!" shouted the younger one.

      Majikthise turned to Vroomfondel. "It's all right," he explained angrily, "you don't need to demand that."

      "All right!" bawled Vroomfondel, banging on a nearby desk. "I am Vroomfondel, and that is NOT a demand, that is a solid FACT! What we demand is solid FACTS!"

      "No, no we don't!" exclaimed Majikthise in irritation. "That is precisely what we don't demand!"

      Scarcely pausing for breath, Vroomfondel shouted, "We DON'T demand solid facts! What we demand is the total ABSENCE of solid facts. I demand that I may or may not be Vroomfondel!"

      "But who the devil are you?" exclaimed an outraged Fook.

      "We," said Majikthise, "are Philosophers."

      "Though we may not be," said Vroomfondel, wagging a warning finger at the programmers.

    13. Re:Which tomorrow? by aggiefalcon01 · · Score: 1

      Funny ... the terror alert level in my pants has been orange for quite some time now. "Lots of chatter" about "chemical weapons" or something.

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    14. Re:Which tomorrow? by Myopic · · Score: 1

      that isn't funny, it's informative. the official Modern Language Association recommendations for which time zone to use is that if your audience is multi-timezone, and if EST is one of those multi zones, use Eastern Standard Time. no doubt this is because of NY and DC.

  4. Pure craziness by MinusBlindfold · · Score: 3, Insightful

    How can they know? unless they are somehow involved.....

    1. Re:Pure craziness by BarryNorton · · Score: 3, Funny
      How can they know? unless they are somehow involved.....
      Well...
      Gostev said that the information on the attack could be found on "specialist web sites" although at the time of going to press the INQ couldn't find them.
      ... but that might be because many of those "specialist web sites" are subscription-only ;)
    2. Re:Pure craziness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      They listen to the 'chatter.'

    3. Re:Pure craziness by otisg · · Score: 1

      If we were to apply the same logic to various secret service agencies, or even the local police force, what would we conclude? Hm.... can't be true, can it?

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    4. Re:Pure craziness by weeboo0104 · · Score: 1

      One would think that a specialist could use the google partner link.

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    5. Re:Pure craziness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They should have used "BugMeNot"

    6. Re:Pure craziness by bergeron76 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      https (SSL Certs) use MD5SUM's don't they? What if they're going to try and attack the cert root authorities.

      Just a thought...

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    7. Re:Pure craziness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Reporter: How do you know that it's going to happen? Aleksandr Gostev: We know it. (From some funky sites). Reporter: Which sites? Aleksandr Gostev: Next question.... Damn...The same old russian secrecy. Everything is secret. Even about how they predicted the dooms day.

    8. Re:Pure craziness by versus · · Score: 1
      https (SSL Certs) use MD5SUM's don't they? What if they're going to try and attack the cert root authorities.

      No sane certificate root authority will keep its private key reachable online. And if the hackers stole CA keys - what can they do? Fake some https websites?

      And it is MD5 hashing algorithm, not MD5SUMs. And it's being replaced by SHA anyway.

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  5. Hope I can still connect to slashdot... by Nos. · · Score: 2, Funny

    Otherwise, what am I going to do all day tomorrow at work!

  6. Sure, blame everything on terrorists by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    He just wants to sell you his anti-virus!

  7. Interesting timing.. by rpj1288 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Would this have anything to do with the 2 Russian airliners that crashed yesterday?

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    1. Re:Interesting timing.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful
      Would this have anything to do with the 2 Russian airliners that crashed yesterday?

      Yes, what a coincidence! One event might happen in a country of 140 million people only days after another suspicious event! Wow!

    2. Re:Interesting timing.. by Have+Blue · · Score: 3, Funny

      Maybe the passengers upset with the terrorists' plans to crash them into the Internet.

    3. Re:Interesting timing.. by Ignignot · · Score: 0

      Hahahaha that was rated interesting! That just made my day!

      Let's see... the the report is from a Russian source, and the planes were Russian! You must be on to something there! What other parallels can we make^b^b^b^bcome up with? Well my cousin's boyfriend's sister's dad is in the CIA and I heard that Aleksandr Gostev resides in a secret lair where he crashes planes by use of magnets and also destroys whole sections of the internet... with magnets! You sir, are to be commended!

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    4. Re:Interesting timing.. by whovian · · Score: 3, Interesting

      More like Microsoft releasing the service pack for Windows XP Professional via Windows Update/Automatic Update.

      SP2 has been available for a week or two (there was a link posted on Slashdot to the download page) to (I think) business and netadmins. My guess is that black hat hackers have found some holes and are perched to launch new exploits. That's the only meltdown I can conceive at the moment.

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    5. Re:Interesting timing.. by lucabrasi999 · · Score: 1, Funny
      Would this have anything to do with the 2 Russian airliners that crashed yesterday

      I bet everything is all tied into the second gunman on the grassy knoll. Or was that a second spitter on the grassy knoll?

      Anyway, I think all of our answers lie in Area 51. Anyone want to join me in Roswell, New Mexico? I'm flying down there tonight, so I can be on-site for the Internet Meltdown.

    6. Re:Interesting timing.. by SteakandcheeseUm · · Score: 1

      That would be one hell of a big plane!

    7. Re:Interesting timing.. by gfxguy · · Score: 1

      Or was that a second spitter on the grassy knoll?

      That was one magic loogie.

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    8. Re:Interesting timing.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...uhh no...

    9. Re:Interesting timing.. by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 1, Insightful

      89 people died today. Was it really necessary to make a joke at their expense (and, rather sickeningly, to mod it up to +5 as well)?

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    10. Re:Interesting timing.. by lightdarkness · · Score: 1

      I agree, it's either this or nothing at all. There is no way they could launch a huge attack unless something very significant was found in SP2. However, my best guess is that it won't happen, and even if it does, none of the sites I frequent will be affected. If they somehow manage to bring down /., I saw we declare war.

    11. Re:Interesting timing.. by lazytiger · · Score: 1
      I think all of our answers lie in Area 51. Anyone want to join me in Roswell, New Mexico?


      If you think all the answers lie in Area 51, I'd suggest you head toward Groom Lake, Nevada - not Roswell.
    12. Re:Interesting timing.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      dont need any. almost all MSI motherboards that have P4 processors will not boot XP when SP2 is installed.

      you have to flash your bios to the latest in order to boot with SP2 installed.

      I'd say that SP2 is the blackout.

    13. Re:Interesting timing.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're absolutely right. The attack that will "take down the internet" must exploit a flaw in a just released, not yet widely deployed piece of software that hardens an existing system known to be full of bugs already ripe for exploitation. In fact, the odds are good that the millions of people still running windows 9x are perfectly okay as long as they avoid upgrading to XPSP2 before tomorrow. It's too bad all the root servers already run SP2, though...

    14. Re:Interesting timing.. by itchy92 · · Score: 1, Troll

      Was it really necessary to make a joke at their expense (and, rather sickeningly, to mod it up to +5 as well)?

      Yes, yes it was.

      I'm sorry, but I've never understood how people get upset when people make light of a situation like this. I mean, yeah, it's tragic, I guess, that we lost 89 people in a plane crash. 89 people. Out of 6.3 billion. Will we ever recover?

      And this is certainly not meant to devalue human life; I believe all life is sacred, and understnand that these people had families and loved ones and whatnot. But to make such an issue out of something like this-- as if they were the only 89 people to die today, because society's perfect, and no one dies from violence, starvation, disease, or any other cause except for Russian plane crashes...

      I'm sorry, I don't know where that came from. It just really bothers me. Feel free to mod me down...

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    15. Re:Interesting timing.. by ballfire · · Score: 1

      yep, you have reason, 3000person in 11/s of 6.3 billion. Does it matters?

    16. Re:Interesting timing.. by bladesjester · · Score: 1

      Should I faint now? I've finally met someone who has a common-sense standpoint on this sort of thing. Yes, these people had familes, and yes, their families will feel pain over their deaths but more people will die today than the passengers in those planes. Death (in its many forms) is a part of life wether we like it or not.

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    17. Re:Interesting timing.. by lucabrasi999 · · Score: 1

      What? They aren't right next to each other? If it's west of the Hudson River, then the exact location doesn't matter.

    18. Re:Interesting timing.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you worried that the joke is going to offend the dead? or that the families of the dead are reading slashdot? some people have a different sense of humor than you, I personally find death fucking hliarious. take a chill pill

    19. Re:Interesting timing.. by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 3, Interesting
      I'm sorry, but I've never understood how people get upset when people make light of a situation like this.

      The same reason they got upset on 9/11, and all the other times a tragedy has unnaturally ended lives, and for that matter when the life of someone they love has ended naturally: death is not funny, and making jokes out of it is likely to cause suffering to people who have already suffered enough. Is humanity really such a terribly old-fashioned virtue these days?

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    20. Re:Interesting timing.. by fubar1971 · · Score: 1

      Oh yes, the terrorists used over 10000 DDoS zombies to disrupt the Bernoulli Effect and cause the Planes to follow out of the sky.

    21. Re:Interesting timing.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Starvation is a natural cause for death,
      as is dropping 30,000 ft in a fuel filled
      aluminum can.

    22. Re:Interesting timing.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it was 2 events...simultaneously....and one had set off the concealed 'hijack' alert just before crashing.

    23. Re:Interesting timing.. by dgatwood · · Score: 1
      However, my best guess is that it won't happen, and even if it does, none of the sites I frequent will be affected.

      It only takes one. If someone were to manage to break into their systems and slip in a few extra lines into the content that Google serves (which might be as simple as paying for high placement of an ad banner that directs people to a dangerous site), it could cause a serious meltdown.

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    24. Re:Interesting timing.. by concordeonetwo · · Score: 1

      I remember I said last year "Think the Blaster worm and the Northeast power outages have a connection?"

    25. Re:Interesting timing.. by itchy92 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It's not a question of humanity or compassion; were I presented with the families of the victims, I wouldn't point and laugh at their misfortune; rather, I would sympathize with their loss and do what I could to console them.

      Death is not tragic. The unlived life and the pain it brings to loved ones is. However, a joke like this doesn't belittle that fact at all.

      My point was simply that people don't get all up in arms about the thousands of other people who die everyday, why should they for the publicized ones? Is the death of these people somehow more unjust than the children who are born into poverty and die of disease or malnourishment? In fact, I'll be so bold as to say that it's more humanitarian to not be broken up about an accident (tragic as it may be) and be more upset by the sociological problems plaguing our planet that are cause for countless people to die everyday.

      I don't know; I mean, obviously if someone close to me was affected by something like this, I would probably not take it so lightly. And I certainly hope no one affected by the accident is reading this thread and crying their eyes out. But looking at it objectively, I don't see anything wrong with a harmless joke.

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    26. Re:Interesting timing.. by r_j_prahad · · Score: 1

      You're flying into Roswell? ROW? Wow, that says a great deal about your ..uhhh... judgment. I'd rather walk there from Albuquerque than have to fly that prop-job into there ever again.

    27. Re:Interesting timing.. by lucabrasi999 · · Score: 1
      prop-job

      Danger is my middle name.

    28. Re:Interesting timing.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Interesting timing? I don't think so.

      Dear Aleksandr Gostev,
      Did you have a look at your calendar, today? It seems that it's August 25th, 23:18, UT.
      I think you're wasting a lot of potentially funny material for April 1st.
      Please hold on your jokes, they'll be funnier on this special day.

      Best regards,
      -AC

    29. Re:Interesting timing.. by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Of course the other things you mention are tragic as well, and in some sense those who died on the planes are "nothing special". I don't laugh at the expense of the others who die, or who live with their own problems, either.

      But it's all a matter of taste. My original post has been modded both up and down several times now -- though it's strange how the down-mods on "controversial" posts always seem to consist mostly of the M2-proof (-1, Overrated)...

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  8. Another terror alert? by fiannaFailMan · · Score: 4, Funny

    I smell the work of the GOP trying to get the geek vote.

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    1. Re:Another terror alert? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting
      I smell the work of the GOP trying to get the geek vote.

      They aren't getting mine. As long as Nader qualifies in my state, I'm voting for him! If he doesn't, I guess I'll vote Bush, but it won't be because of terrorism (more like, I like him more than the other guy, who I've come to deeply despise... I resent the Democratic party for choosing him, when there were better choices in the running.... I will not be forced to choose who they force down my throat, just because "a vote for x is a vote for y" or whatever cutesy slogan the sheeple are spouting this week...)

      (Posting anonymously because /. community consensus is against both Nader and Bush)

    2. Re:Another terror alert? by spellraiser · · Score: 5, Informative
      Seriously, this all sound very, very fishy. All the stories given are quite short, both in length and on details. For instance, Moscow News reports this:

      Speaking at a conference hosted by Russian Information Agency Novosti, Aleksandr Gostev from Kaspersky Labs said information on this terrorist attack was published on special websites. He did not elaborate.

      ...

      The executive director of Dr.Web antivirus lab, Mikhail Bychinsky, quoted by Lenta.ru web agency said he had not heard of such an attack. "I do not believe in mass internet attacks because the main servers are defended, and Kaspersky Labs has been foretelling doomsday for a long time."

      A case of cry wolf, most likely. The main question is 'Why the hell?'

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    3. Re:Another terror alert? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      I smell the work of yet another Slashdot reader who just can't resist the urge to use any opporunity at his disposal to impune the GOP/Bush administration just for the sake of making it seem like he's politically savvy or at least mildly humorous.

      I keep forgetting that Slashdot is (apparently) a liberals-only club where just about every thread has to have politics brought into in unnecessarily.

    4. Re:Another terror alert? by Vlad_the_Inhaler · · Score: 4, Funny

      The prophet has no honour in his own land? They are probably right.

      Did you see this other link on that page? Sometimes Reading TFA has unexpected benefits :-)

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    5. Re:Another terror alert? by Procrastin8er · · Score: 2, Funny

      I seems to me that the only one who could accomplish a feat like this could be Al Gore, since he invented it in the first place, he would know best how to disable it.

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    6. Re:Another terror alert? by bitrott · · Score: 0, Troll

      I smell the work of another humor-less conservative wank boo-hooing over a mildly amusing joke. Get off the fucking cross, we need the wood. How is terrorism of any form NOT political in nature, especially post 9/11? /. is not a 'liberals only' club. That's a stupid generalization. It's the kind of stupid that we expect from Trolls and that also make it totally irresistable to refrain from replying to.

    7. Re:Another terror alert? by drinkypoo · · Score: 5, Funny

      Kaspersky can't even seem to put together a decent antivirus program. We used to use it at my place of employment - when it originally came out it was quite good, possibly the best scanner for NT. Then it went right in the fucking toilet and became basically unusable. I wouldn't trust this guy to tell me that chili cheese fritos taste good when you're stoned.

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    8. Re:Another terror alert? by slaker · · Score: 4, Interesting

      If you're thinking like that, can I at least remind you that you'll also be voting to maintain assholes like Ashcroft, Cheney and Rumsfeld in their respective offices?

      I mean, there were at least five other guys in the primary I think would've been better candidates, but it really scares me to think that the wastes of orgasms presently holding the highest offices in our country might get to do it for another four years just because the mainstream democrats had to choose the fucking establishment candidate.

      But then, since I live in one of the NASCAR idiot redneck states that will overwhelming go to Prince George, I think maybe I'll vote for Nader, too. Or maybe Cthulhu.

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    9. Re:Another terror alert? by xCepheus · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Come now... chili cheese fritos taste great regardless of whether or not you're stoned.

    10. Re:Another terror alert? by MikeMacK · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yeah, really, don't get so uptight - they didn't even raise the color code thing - then I would have been real scared!

    11. Re:Another terror alert? by dclydew · · Score: 2, Funny

      *Eats some chili cheese fritos*

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    12. Re:Another terror alert? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I SMELL BACON !!!!!!!

    13. Re:Another terror alert? by slaker · · Score: 5, Funny

      And since I'm now apparently a "troll", I'd like to go on to point out that in the 2004 Presidential Election, Cthulhu is not, in fact, the greatest evil in the running, ancient and all-devouring though he may be.

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    14. Re:Another terror alert? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      I keep forgetting that Slashdot is (apparently) a liberals-only club where just about every thread has to have politics brought into in unnecessarily.

      Er, and every time that happens it turns into a flamewar. Tell me, if Slashdot is so full of liberals, where are all these conservatives coming from who argue with the liberals all the time?

    15. Re:Another terror alert? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, even if it is a liberal trend, is it any worse than a Republican administration which claims the Sept. 11th attacks prove that we need to re-elect a Republican president, when, had Al Gore been President, they would have argued it was necessary to vote him out for the same reason? Even if Al Gore would not have gone slack-jawed for minutes when it happened?

    16. Re:Another terror alert? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Though slashdot isn't completely liberal, a large majority of posters are liberal, almost 3/4, possibly. Fortunately, most of them will not be voting in this November's election for one of two reasons: 1) they aren't even from the United States, or 2) they aren't even old enough to vote. The obvious maturity level of these same posters that hate Bush makes me think that most of them are the latter. These are the same trolls that baselessly attack other peoples' choices in Operating system, Window system, etc.

    17. Re:Another terror alert? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Interesting, however, that no one has taken any contrasting side to the statement that politics is often thrown into just about every thread possible even when it's irrelevant or unnecessary. So is he the troll for daring to point it out or are we the trolls for constantly allowing it to continue? "Oh look! A new thread! How can I make fun of {insert political party here} in this thread? Hmmmm..." That does seem to be a common /. activity.

      It also must be noted that you - the non-conservative - felt the need to call someone else a "wank". I thought that the liberals were supposed to be the "all-inclusive" people? Ah, well. Another typical /. thread. Move along, people. There's nothing else to say ... at least until the next thread gets unnecessarily politicized.

    18. Re:Another terror alert? by fiannaFailMan · · Score: 1, Interesting
      if Slashdot is so full of liberals, where are all these conservatives coming from who argue with the liberals all the time?
      Keeping quiet so that they can abuse the moderation system by quashing dissent with the 'overrated' mod option without subjecting themselves to metamodding.
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    19. Re:Another terror alert? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The point was more that someone felt the need to make a political slam into a thread where it probably wasn't necessary - a very annoying /. trend, regardless of the party that is being slammed.

    20. Re:Another terror alert? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      ALERT! fiannaFailMan has broken the code!

      Quick send out the black helicopters and Men in Black to quash him!!!

      Fucking conspiricist loon...


      BTW the left and the right are equally offensive to me. Especially on Slashdot. I think I speak for a rather large silent majority when I say: I DON'T GIVE A FUCK WHETHER YOU LIKE BUSH OR KERRY AND WHY I SHOULD VOTE FOR ONE OVER THE OTHER! I DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR AGENDA, WHO'S BEING PERSECUTED BY THE MODERATORS, OR ANY OTHER STUPID LAME-ASS CONSPIRACY!

    21. Re:Another terror alert? by fiannaFailMan · · Score: 2, Funny

      Sorry, the 'overrated' mod that my post attracted is just a figment of my imagination. My mistake.

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    22. Re:Another terror alert? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I resent the Democratic party for choosing him, when there were better choices in the running....

      Come on, dude, vote for the pelican. A chin that length only comes around once in a lifetime! He's not as dull, conservative, and Bush-lite as he seems. Once he's in office, that huge Trojan Jaw is going to open all the way and peace and prosperity are going to jump out!

    23. Re:Another terror alert? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, good idea, i'll go do that right now...WHAT??? it won't let me moderate because I already posted??? But I posted Anonymously. Stupid slashdot, ruined my day.

    24. Re:Another terror alert? by DonkPunch · · Score: 2, Funny

      Nice going. Obviously, we won't be giving you the secret locations for our meetings anymore.

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    25. Re:Another terror alert? by festers · · Score: 1

      Reminds me of a t-shirt I saw at the recent Indy GenCon:

      "Why settle for the lesser evil? Vote Cthulhu 2004"

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    26. Re:Another terror alert? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Remember, anti-dem / pro-repub is against the slashdot T's & C's.

    27. Re:Another terror alert? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And to answer your questions, who the fuck wouldn't go slackjawed when they found out a plane had just crashed into each of the towers plus the pentagon? Hell Kerry himself stated his mind went blank for a half hour.

      Next point, if Gore had been elected (NO HE FUCKING WASN'T LOOK AT THE CONSTITUTION) he would have slapped the terrorists on the wrist and told them to not do it again.

      Last point, if Kerry were elected he would fight a more sensitive war on terror. This lunitic mentality will get people killed who need not be killed.

      Damn I feel like an asshat for falling for this troll.

    28. Re:Another terror alert? by anamexis · · Score: 1
      I mean, there were at least five other guys in the primary I think would've been better candidates, but it really scares me to think that the wastes of orgasms presently holding the highest offices in our country might get to do it for another four years just because the mainstream democrats had to choose the fucking establishment candidate.

      Wastes of orgasms? Well I suppose that makes sense...

    29. Re:Another terror alert? by osobear · · Score: 1

      that the wastes of orgasms presently holding the highest offices in our country You must REALLY like the current administration....

    30. Re:Another terror alert? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is not true. You do not vote for the president't cabinet. It is likely that a number of Bush's cabinet members(including Rumsfeld, but not Ashcroft in my opinion) will not be back for Bush's second term.

    31. Re:Another terror alert? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was looking at a close up of him the other day, and it looks like he has Marfan syndrome.

  9. cool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    does that mean we all get the day off work ??

  10. Care to define that? by Lethyos · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Can someone seriously tell me what a "cyber terrorist" is? Is it someone who makes threats using electronic media? Is it someone who defaces web sites? Is it someone who shuts down the Internet? Are the latter two here really forms of terrorism? I don't really know of anyone who is "terrorized" by defaced web sites and high lag times, but I could be wrong.

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    1. Re:Care to define that? by shades66 · · Score: 5, Funny

      > Is it someone who makes threats using electronic media?

      no thats the RIAA isn't it?

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    2. Re:Care to define that? by bobjohnson · · Score: 0, Insightful

      Ha! They've been trying to get this administration to truly define a 'terrorist' period. Good luck with 'cyber-terrorist'!

      Your guess is as good as anyone elses!

    3. Re:Care to define that? by keiferb · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If you're in the US, it's anyone the current government doesn't like who also happens to own or have access to a computer.

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    4. Re:Care to define that? by tekunokurato · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It's anyone who disrupts business interests, isn't that obvious?

      Oh wait, I'm a banker, I'm not supposed to say things like that...

    5. Re:Care to define that? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I've personally become entirely jaded by the term 'terrorist'. I've heard it used to describe just about everything that the speaker wants to scare you into believing.

      Officials of foreign governments are now terrorists, drinking a Pepsi at the Olympics is "advertising terrorism", etc.

    6. Re:Care to define that? by glesga_kiss · · Score: 5, Insightful
      It's the same definition as any other terrorist. "Any person doing something that upsets my personal interests".

      As Reagan said; one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter.

    7. Re:Care to define that? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe he just discovered the web and he's scared that script kiddies will deface his site. Wait a week for him to discover what spam is!

    8. Re:Care to define that? by joshmoh · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'm wondering myself what an "Internet Meltdown" looks like.

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    9. Re:Care to define that? by Senzei · · Score: 3, Funny
      Can someone seriously tell me what a "cyber terrorist" is?

      Its that jackass that won't get off the mic in counter-strike, unreal tournament, and any other game in which they can spam endless chatter without a chance of retribution.

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    10. Re:Care to define that? by bladernr · · Score: 1
      get this administration to truly define a 'terrorist'

      Let's make that a question in the debates to BOTH Bush and Kerry. Can/will either one put a firm definition on it, or will they both use that term for politcal points?

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    11. Re:Care to define that? by Khomar · · Score: 5, Insightful
      I don't really know of anyone who is "terrorized" by defaced web sites and high lag times, but I could be wrong.

      If the Internet is your livelyhood, then the threat of being shutdown or defaced (thereby damaging your company's reputation) is very real. While it is not life-threatening, a successful cyber attack could be very distruptive. If, for example, someone was able to shut down a large percentage of the Internet, what effect could that have on the US economy? It would not take long for serious repercussions on a world-wide scale due to loss of productivity.

      No, they are not terrorists in threatening people's lives, but if they can prove that they can hit the economy, they accomplish the same goal: to create fear. Remember, one of the goals of 9/11 was not just to kill people but to hurt the US economy. Is this something to be worried about? What kind of wide-spread damage could a "cyber-terrorist" cause on the Internet?

      BTW, I realize that this was a mis-quote, but it does bring up interesting questions.

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    12. Re:Care to define that? by Beryllium+Sphere(tm) · · Score: 5, Funny

      >one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter.

      If a fire fighter fights fires, and a crime fighter fights crime, what is a "freedom fighter"?

    13. Re:Care to define that? by tuxette · · Score: 3, Funny
      Can someone seriously tell me what a "cyber terrorist" is?

      Yeah. A cyber terrorist is some teenage geek that messages you all the time with "ASL? R U HORNY?" so much and so often that you can't get anything done.

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    14. Re:Care to define that? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A "cyber terrorist" is someone who "thinks out of the box" to cause a "paradigm shift" in a "dot com." They'll all go away in a few years when a new word du jour is unleashed on poor us.

    15. Re:Care to define that? by positroniumman · · Score: 1

      gotta use the catch phrases or you get no funding;)

    16. Re:Care to define that? by Lawbeefaroni · · Score: 1

      Which is combated by the super secretive Department of Homeland Playermute.

      IE in UT2K4, game menu, rightclick player, "ignore speech."

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    17. Re:Care to define that? by mr_z_beeblebrox · · Score: 4, Funny

      As Reagan said; one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter.

      I always mess that one up. I thought he said "one mans terrorist is another mans customer."

    18. Re:Care to define that? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

      Someone that fights for freedom. What are you, stupid?

    19. Re:Care to define that? by ThosLives · · Score: 5, Insightful
      It would not take long for serious repercussions on a world-wide scale due to loss of productivity.

      Hrm... but what about those instances where loss of the internet will increase productivity? For instance, I should be doing work right now...what if there's an interesting balance that happens (no internet hurts some folks, but helps others) such that the net effect is zero? And what's more important - net effect or effect for a given individual?

      Now there's a philosophical mind-bender...

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    20. Re:Care to define that? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      No, that is "someone who makes threats 'at' electronic media."

    21. Re:Care to define that? by superyooser · · Score: 2, Informative
      According to the CIA FAQ...
      -- The term "terrorism" means premeditated, politically motivated violence perpetrated against noncombatant targets by subnational groups or clandestine agents, usually intended to influence an audience.

      -- The term "international terrorism" means terrorism involving the territory or the citizens of more than one country.

      -- The term "terrorist group" means any group that practices, or has significant subgroups that practice, international terrorism.

      I assume Russians define it pretty much the same way. Cyber terrorism is just the above that involves computers that are used to attack and/or are being attacked.
    22. Re:Care to define that? by socrates32 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      When Communism fell and left Capitalism triumphant (apart from China, North Korea, Cuba...) it left a bogeyman vacuum, which didn't matter much as long as everyone was ranting about felacio in the Oral^H^H^H^H Oval Office. But now we're marketing a new Bad Guy (TM) that's just like the rest of us, only doesn't like Authority... convenient.

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    23. Re:Care to define that? by Hard_Code · · Score: 0

      wow, i think you just discovered the ONLY grammatical inconsistency in english EVER. good job.

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    24. Re:Care to define that? by shotfeel · · Score: 1

      "I don't really know of anyone who is "terrorized" by ..(snip).. high lag times"

      You've never seen my wife bidding on ebay!

    25. Re:Care to define that? by phosphorous · · Score: 0

      Hey, at least give credit to George Carlin for that one...

    26. Re:Care to define that? by rmarll · · Score: 1

      From the article...

      He added that it would be "impossible" to stop terrorist organizations if they "get down to business".


      I can get down.
      Can I stop the intarweb? For justice?

    27. Re:Care to define that? by kyle_b_gorman · · Score: 1

      I don't really know of anyone who is "terrorized" by defaced web sites and high lag times, but I could be wrong.

      You must be new here. ;-)

      I for one, deleted the "it." in front of the URL for this story.

    28. Re:Care to define that? by lukewarmfusion · · Score: 1

      I once heard that quote attributed to Nelson Mandela. Nonetheless, such a statement raises a lot of angry opposition when you apply it to the American Revolution, Nelson Mandela, etc.

      The idea that a terrorism is necessarily an evil, while "freedom fighting" is just ignores the subjectivity of the term.

      That said, I don't think that your "definition" is even close to appropriate. A guy that cuts you off in traffic is hardly a terrorist; yet he has upset your personal interests. There are definite characteristics of terrorism, such as using terror as a weapon, which can help. But it still doesn't resolve the conflict in people's minds (especially us Americans) when they are forced to apply this new McCarthy-ism to well-established heroes such as the American Revolutionaries.

      I've had this discussion before, and I assure you that it's not an easy one. After approximately 100 posts, many of which would span for several printed pages, we came to no agreement.

    29. Re:Care to define that? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Scenario: A small South American country was having a contentious election. The national newspaper was reporting election results as they received them on their website.

      The concern was that any interruption of their website may be percieved by the public as an attempt to conceal or alter the election results, potentially causing riots or opening an opportunity for a coup.

      This was a real scenario; I worked at the ISP that hosted the newspaper's site. Fortunately, nothing distrupted the site, and the election went off without a hitch.

      The 'net now affects real things in the real world. In the right situation, it can have an effect out of expected proportions.

    30. Re:Care to define that? by orpx · · Score: 1

      I would guess someone interupting services that others use is considered a terrorist act. Just like the 'terrorist' across the world trying to stop the Beast of Consumerism trying to take over human nature.

    31. Re:Care to define that? by KilobyteKnight · · Score: 2, Funny
      I don't really know of anyone who is "terrorized" by defaced web sites and high lag times, but I could be wrong.

      Possible some middle management, who live in fear their lack of knowledge will be discovered.
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    32. Re:Care to define that? by Gigabit+Switchman · · Score: 1

      George W. Bush?

    33. Re:Care to define that? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That *should* be true, but isn't.

      When the internet goes down it's like someone has cut off my head... I can't get anything done.

      It's not that I don't have plenty of "local" stuff to work on, I just focus on the fact that the internet should be up, and get nothing else done.

      Most of the programmers / developers I know of are this way.

    34. Re:Care to define that? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      You idiot. If you follow the progression:
      Fire Fighter => Fights Fires
      Crime Fighter => Fights Crime
      Freedom Fighter => Fights Freedom

      Bloody twit.

    35. Re:Care to define that? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      could you imagine the negitive loss of productivity?
      here i am at work, "working" (reading slashdot). if i didn't have Internet (and other slackers like me also didn't have their Interveb). no interuptions by looking at websites, no interuptions from email (forwards from those new aol users who got my email address from a virus spoofing it, now i'm in their address book and they like to 'forward to everyone in address book')

      we would be so productive we would have to start making up work (again)!

    36. Re:Care to define that? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >If a fire fighter fights fires, and a crime fighter fights crime, what is a "freedom fighter"?

      A member of the RIAA?

    37. Re:Care to define that? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      The key word is "violence". Not loss of business. Not disruption. Not even property damage or vandalism. The key definition of "real" terrorism is that it involves violence (as in "violent crime", causing *bodily* harm to one or more persons).

    38. Re:Care to define that? by erykjj · · Score: 1

      Right. And if there is no net, its effect IS zero indeed.

    39. Re:Care to define that? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      FSF?
      Daim

    40. Re:Care to define that? by dedeman · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The term "terrorist" has been applied just as much as former terms to try and convey a sense of evil and hate from the speaker to the recipient. The words "communist" and "nazi" are older examples, and are pretty much interchangeable unless the listener is actually what I call "informed".

    41. Re:Care to define that? by gfxguy · · Score: 1

      It's anyone who can get yet another criminal charge if the prosecutor is really mad him. There are so many domestic cases lately that I've heard the perpetrator charged with "terroristic threats" or something. Really ridiculous. Here's one that I heard this morning from my neck of the woods (Atlanta, GA area): Sign Assualt Case, where the jerkoff threw a metal real estate sign at a speeder and did some serious physical damage.

      Now, the guys an a$$hole, but guilty of "terroristic acts"? WTF?

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    42. Re:Care to define that? by Hell+O'World · · Score: 5, Funny

      We HAVE to have the term terrorist, we aren't allowed to call everyone who disagrees with us "nazi" anymore.
      And if you don't agree, that's because you are a friggin terro-nazi.

    43. Re:Care to define that? by kisrael · · Score: 1

      If the American Heart Association wants you to have a good heart, and the American Lung Association to have good lungs, what's up with the American Cancer Society?

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    44. Re:Care to define that? by gfxguy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Freedom fighters don't specifically target innocent people, terrorists do.

      Before a storm whips up here, the operative words are specifically target.

      So then a cyber-terrorist would attack the computers and networks of innocent people and businesses... innocent meaning they are just going about their legal business, wether or not you agree with their politics or policies.

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    45. Re:Care to define that? by sharkdba · · Score: 2, Insightful

      ...I should be doing work right now...what if there's an interesting balance that happens (no internet hurts some folks, but helps others) such that the net effect is zero?

      Well, you think you might get more productive w/o internet, because you won't read/post /. stories but actually do something. However, remember there is a heavy service-for-money traffic through the internet allowing many businesses to exist. W/o internet you might get some work done, but your company won't be able to pay you for it.

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    46. Re:Care to define that? by tekiegreg · · Score: 1

      Just curious tux: Is this actually a problem for you?

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    47. Re:Care to define that? by killjoe · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      They put the word "subnational" in there so that the US and Israel won't fit the definition.

      Although interestingly the CIA and Mossad (and maybe even the IDF) might because they are "clandestine agents".

      It's perfectly OK for nations to commit acts that are "premeditated, politically motivated violence perpetrated against noncombatant targets " ... "usually intended to influence an audience." You just can't do it if you are not a nation.

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    48. Re:Care to define that? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A terrorist is a person who uses violent action to achieve a political goal. (Remove the word "violent" and you have the definition of an activist). You can generalize by replacing "violent" with "destructive".

      Then I guess a cyber-terrorist is someone who shuts down servers, defaces websites, etc. in order to achieve a political goal. If he's not trying to achieve such a goal, than he's just a vandal, not a terrorist. Of course, it's hard to tell what anyone's goals are over the internet.

      In any case, the goal of a terrorist isn't to terrorize people!

    49. Re:Care to define that? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "If a fire fighter fights fires, and a crime fighter fights crime, what is a "freedom fighter"?" you need to attribute this to George Carlin...

    50. Re:Care to define that? by glpierce · · Score: 4, Informative

      "I assume Russians define it pretty much the same way."

      Don't be so sure. I took a terrorism class when I was in college, and we spent the first week or two discussing definitions of terrorism. The CIA, FBI, different dictionaries, different experts, different nations, etc., all have significantly different definitions. There are about a dozen definitions that scholarly papers regularly cite, making the word mostly useless when the definition isn't provided.

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    51. Re:Care to define that? by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

      So, are you postulating a theory of Conservation of Bogeymanness?

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    52. Re:Care to define that? by Heisenbug · · Score: 1

      Remember, one of the goals of 9/11 was not just to kill people but to hurt the US economy.

      Sorry, totally off-topic, but according to the previously posted article about al-Qaeda's hard drive from the Atlantic Monthly, the major goal was to provoke the US into an overly extreme counter-attack and sway public opinion to their side.

      Just something to think about ...

      (I can't find the full text anymore -- the link below is subscribers only. Anyone?)

      http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/print/200409/cullis on

    53. Re:Care to define that? by superflippy · · Score: 1

      If the Internet is your livelyhood, then the threat of being shutdown or defaced (thereby damaging your company's reputation) is very real.

      The internet is my livelihood, and I've experienced this sort of "terrorism" firsthand recently. I work at a large university, and the students all came back last week. That means 100's of unpatched Windows boxes plugged into the network combined with a huge uptick in demand for bandwidth. As a result, the network slowed to a crawl and internet connectivity was spotty on some days. I know several university web sites were unreachable at times, and we had problems not being able to send or recieve external email.

      As happens every year, things have been set right again and we're not experiencing any problems right now. But honestly, if someone managed to pull the sort of stunt those articles are talking about, we'd probably assume it was just another day on the university LAN.

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    54. Re:Care to define that? by ballfire · · Score: 1

      Ask CNN, for a long time they called that basque independentists of ETA "freedom fighters" (900 people have died since its foundation; most of them with a shot in the head from behind when they were unnarmed)

    55. Re:Care to define that? by bitslinger_42 · · Score: 2, Informative

      At the risk of being a Troll, wouldn't those definitions include various people from the U.S. revolution? I mean, how about the Boston Tea Party?

      • Premeditated
      • politically motivated violence (if there can be violence against the Internet, there can be violence against tea)
      • perpetrated against noncombatants
      • done by by subnationals
      • to influence an audience
      • international, as it was done in the colonies against Britain
      Face it, the U.S.A. was founded by terrorists!

      I guess my point here is that, above and beyond the lack of a standardized definition of "terrorist", it is also largely influenced by who's ox got gored.

    56. Re:Care to define that? by myatmpinis1234 · · Score: 1

      Check out RFC3514 for more information about the "Evil Bit", which is a portion of the IP header used by the computers and servers of cyber-terrorists.

    57. Re:Care to define that? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've used it for fun and profit. I have sold countless bumperstickers calling different activities "terrorist" activities.

      The funny part is that I did it as a joke, making light of the "terorist" craze, by making a few and putting them on my cars. I have been stopped so many times by people asking where to get the various bumperstickers that I had some made (and some that are slower sellers on cafepress) and sold them out at $5.00 each making me almost $1000.00 in a month from a joke.

      my best seller is the "speeding supports terrorism" bumpersticker I made. It's purely a joke/ sarcasim pointed directly at labelling everything terrorism, yet I have sold over 200 of them and still get requests daily.

      dont be jaded, jump on it and profit from it.

      I just wish I though of the black t-shirt with the word TERRORIST in white on it

    58. Re:Care to define that? by Epistax · · Score: 1

      To me, a terrorist is someone who purposefully inflicts violent damage on civilians for the purpose of causing political change.

      Now I'm sure you can poke some holes in this but it's mostly correct. A suicide bomber who attacks the military is not a terrorist. A suicide bomber who attacks the military in a civilian area to cause civilian injury is. The KKK often is a terrorist organization (although not so much anymore).
      Now I have the adjective "violent" to leave room for protesting. Protests can shut a city down without being terrorists easily enough. If it turns violent they aren't terrorists but just regular criminal acts. They aren't committing the violence for the cause, they're doing it because they are in a mob.

      As for a cyberterrorist:
      Someone who purposefully inflicts irrecoverable damage on civilians for the purpose of causing political change.
      Not a lot of change in the definition, and the only bit comes from the fact that it's an abstraction now. Hogging 911 lines might cause a fire call coming in late, resulting in later rescue services possibly resulting in death. That is cyberterrorism (of course only if there was a political motive, otherwise it's manslaughter at least). I'm no good at examples though so I'll stop while I'm a head and go outside. It's nice out.

    59. Re:Care to define that? by plimsoll · · Score: 1

      These days anything bad (b) is [(b)+terrorist|(b)+terror|terror+(b)]
      Yesterday it was [(b)+communist|(b)+communism|communism+(b)]

      Often forming ridiculous juxtaposition:
      Zoning: Amerika's communism spotted outside a junkyard in the 80's
      Integration = communism signs held by white segregationists in Hoxie: The First Stand

      It's a basic tenet of [marketing|propaganda] to short-circuit thought and draw associations.
      it.slashdot.org is color terrorism

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    60. Re:Care to define that? by king-manic · · Score: 2, Funny

      I can get down.
      Can I stop the intarweb? For justice?


      In A.D. 2004
      War was Continuing.
      Captain: What happen ?
      Mechanic: Somebody set up us the internet crash.
      Operator: We get signal.
      Captain: What !
      Operator: Main screen turn on.
      Captain: It's you !!
      Osama: How are you gentlemen !!
      Osama: All your DNS servers are belong to us.
      Osama: You are on the way to destruction.
      Captain: What you say !!
      Osama: You have no chance to survive make your time.
      Osama: Ha Ha Ha Ha ....
      Operator: Captain '!!'*
      Captain: Take off every 'browser'!!
      Captain: You know what you doing.
      Captain: Move 'browser'.
      Captain: For great justice.

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    61. Re:Care to define that? by Scott+Hussey · · Score: 1

      Because when countries do it is called an act of war, not terrorism.

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    62. Re:Care to define that? by the_mad_poster · · Score: 1

      Now there's a philosophical mind-bender...

      Not really...

      The world of business isn't one evenly distributed zero sum game. It's more like a system stacked like blocks. If the cornerstone crumbles, it doesn't really matter whether any of the other blocks were being touched.

      This is what happened on 9/11. Even though the massively overwhelming majority of businesses weren't directly effected, a number of critical pieces of the infrastructure WERE functionally impaired by the attacks, and other, seemingly unrelated business suffered.

      Unnecessary Bush-Bashing follows: It's the closest thing to 'trickle down economics' that actually functionally exists, unless you're a retarded, ex-cokehead/alcoholic from Texas.

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    63. Re:Care to define that? by Oriumpor · · Score: 1

      Well I don't know about ya'll, but I'd sure be working a whole lot harder to get my net connection back up. Everyone else may stuck without a way to finish their work, but it just means more work for us.

      We're just tweaking the widgets that hold business together, in most cases IT isn't the business itself. So our productivity increasing will not mean a net gain in profit, I wouldn't think.

      Although I'm sure the net will be back up in short order if it did have a cascade failure. Geeks everywhere will be scrambling to get on slashdot to see some moronic FP on tomorrow's "The sky fell" article.

    64. Re:Care to define that? by Mattintosh · · Score: 2, Funny

      No, no, you're thinking of the American Cancer Association.

    65. Re:Care to define that? by tuxette · · Score: 1

      It used to be. Like back in September 1993 ;-)

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    66. Re:Care to define that? by FooAtWFU · · Score: 1

      If you want to see what an Internet meltdown looks like, go try to RTFA off of the next several stories.

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    67. Re:Care to define that? by superpulpsicle · · Score: 1

      George Bush's definition of a terrorist is "Someone who is evil."

      I'll take your definition over his any day.

    68. Re:Care to define that? by Zhe+Mappel · · Score: 1
      I've used it for fun and profit. I have sold countless bumperstickers calling different activities "terrorist" activities.The funny part is that I did it as a joke, making light of the "terorist" craze, by making a few and putting them on my cars. I have been stopped so many times by people asking where to get the various bumperstickers that I had some made (and some that are slower sellers on cafepress) and sold them out at $5.00 each making me almost $1000.00 in a month from a joke.

      For an encore, you should run for office. You're a shoe-in: just use your unsold stock as campaign literature.

    69. Re:Care to define that? by hswerdfe · · Score: 1

      The important work there is "violence"...

      so to be a cyber teroist I would need to smash a few servers with a baseball bat...

      Flooding a server with Requests is hardly considered Violent!

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    70. Re:Care to define that? by Phat_Tony · · Score: 1

      Being jaded is one thing, being scared is another.

      What's scary is when the term "terrorist' is used to describe ordinary people in a court of law. See here, here, here, and elsewhere.

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    71. Re:Care to define that? by snwcrash · · Score: 1

      The Onion ran an article titled: 48-Hour Internet Outage Plunges Nation Into Productivity... It would be hard to think a internet outage could cause more monetary damage than a hurricane or an earthquake.

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    72. Re:Care to define that? by socrates32 · · Score: 1

      If I had to call it something novel, it would probably be: "Conservation of a False Dichotomy".
      Unfortunately it already has a name: "Project for the New American Century"
      Pro: newamericancentury.org
      Con: www.pnac.info
      You might find this interesting. Of particular interest is the comment on page 51 that a new Pearl Harbor to catalyze support for their agenda. BTW, this was published in September of 2000.

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    73. Re:Care to define that? by ToadSprocket · · Score: 1

      "one mans terrorist is another mans customer."

      I actually thought that was General Electric, on hearing that Iran was looking for a Nuclear Reactor.

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      If this article confuses you, don't worry. It was posted yesterday in a much clearer fashion.
    74. Re:Care to define that? by ThosLives · · Score: 1

      The philosophical debate was on "is it better to improve the average at the sacrifice of a few" or "sacrifice improving the average to avoid sacrificing a few", not on the general business stuff. I suppose I was not clear on that.

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      "There are a dozen opinions on a matter until you know the truth. Then there is only one." - CS Lewis (paraprhase)
    75. Re:Care to define that? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mod parent up!

    76. Re:Care to define that? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whenever I hear the word "cyberterrorism", I now assume the speaker is trying to sell something. That includes both companies and governments, by the way.

      I'm one of those geeks who loves working with technology but also secretly wishes it would just disappear one day because of all the problems it causes humanity.

      So, internet's up, I'm good, earning money. Internet's down, I'm good, I'll grab my shotgun and head for the woods. Either way.

    77. Re:Care to define that? by mr_z_beeblebrox · · Score: 1

      I actually thought that was General Electric, on hearing that Iran was looking for a Nuclear Reactor.

      The GOP was selling to terrorists long before GE identified them as a valid market segment.

    78. Re:Care to define that? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If innocent persons tax dollars are used to finance the military aid which keeps repressive governments in power and they do nothing to stop such practices, are they truly innocent?

    79. Re:Care to define that? by Vague+but+True · · Score: 1
      >> Is it someone who makes threats using electronic media?

      >no thats the RIAA isn't it?

      So...the RIAA are CyberTerrorists?

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    80. Re:Care to define that? by uxo · · Score: 1
      Can someone seriously tell me what a "cyberterrorist" is?

      I started looking for a definition at the FBI which led me over to CERT and a presentation that defines cyberterrorism as:
      "The deliberate destruction, disruption or distortion of digital data or information flows with widespread effect for political, religious or ideological reasons."

      This apparently does include website defacement...
    81. Re:Care to define that? by calethix · · Score: 1

      I have an idea for one. "Buying bumperstickers from cafepress supports terrorism" :)

    82. Re:Care to define that? by k98sven · · Score: 1

      "America has never gone to war with a country that has McDonalds restaurants." - US Marine, Fallujah

      That depends on what your Marine there means by 'war', now doesn't it? The only 'wars' the USA has been in since McDonalds was founded have been the ones against Iraq.

      Using the more general definition of war as "armed conflict" though:
      Panama had McDonalds restaurants when the USA invaded in 1989.
      Serbia had McDonalds restaurants when the USA bombed them in 1995.

    83. Re:Care to define that? by Turmio · · Score: 1

      For instance Osama Bin Laden of the 80's was a freedom fighter from western point of view.

    84. Re:Care to define that? by canoe_head · · Score: 1

      "I took a terrorism class when I was in college"

      ummm, that "college" didn't happen to be in Afghanistan, did it?

    85. Re:Care to define that? by isorox · · Score: 1

      I don't really know of anyone who is "terrorized" by defaced web sites and high lag times, but I could be wrong.

      Last time I had a power cut and my internet access went down, I huddled under my bed and hoped for the best.

      Last time "real" terrorism affected me, I wrote about it on slashdot

    86. Re:Care to define that? by Dread_ed · · Score: 1

      And what's more important - net effect or effect for a given individual?

      Under this logic it would be ok to kill half the populace and enslave the other half and dope them with chemicals that make them work twice as hard. If the net effect is zero on productivity is it ok?

      Ok, less extreme example...Take away televisions from everyone. People get healthier from more activity, kids are smarter because they read, etc. This time the effect is actually positive. IS it ok to do this? I think not. You are affecting the freedom/liberty of people without their consent.

      Power centric countries play this game and control the population for their own purposes, sacrificing the freedom and volition of their people. The ideology of the US is contrary to this, accepting inneficiencies and downright insanity in favor of individual freedom.

      Mind mender it is not...not unless you discount human volition and only look at the end results.

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    87. Re:Care to define that? by ViolentGreen · · Score: 1

      I'd love to ask them. The problem is that neither one of them cares enough to address the questions/concerns of people who can't contribute to their funds.

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      Not everything is analogous to cars. Car analogies rarely work.
    88. Re:Care to define that? by glpierce · · Score: 1

      The class was titled "Psychology, Terrorism, and Law," and in it we studied the connections between the three. I assumed that readers would interpret "terrorism class" to mean "a class studying terrorism" rather than "a class that teaches one how to become a terrorist."

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    89. Re:Care to define that? by geekoid · · Score: 1

      if someone is not doing there work with the internet, what makes you think they would do it without the internet? I would guess they would loiter around the 'water cooler' and yack it up. Or play solitare.

      Or are you impling tat surfing the internet is addictive and causes compulsive behavior?

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    90. Re:Care to define that? by Rabbit+Time! · · Score: 1

      Now...I'm not trying to start a political fight, here, though its obvious where my loyalties lie because this happens to be from the Planned Parenthood Action Illinois newsletter. However...its a good example of people using terrorist and terrorism to describe anything that they don't like regardless of the obvious innapropriateness of the term.

      In April on CNN, Bush adviser Karen Hughes compared the 1.15 million people who marched for women's lives in Washington, DC (and the pro-choice community in general) to a "terror network." As if that wasn't bad enough, yet another anti-choice hardliner just pulled out the T-word again.
      Last week, Republican U.S. Senate candidate Alan Keyes called women who have had abortions and the physicians who perform them "terrorists" because, he said, "the evil is the same." We live in a time when the use of a word such as "terrorist" has a very powerful, very poignant implication. To equate pro-choice Americans with terrorism is offensive to me, as I am sure it is to you.


      There's more in the newsletter, but its mostly "vote barak obama" and "give us money"
      How does 'terrorist' even apply to these situations. I mean...regardless of whether you're pro-choice...this is just...I can't even think of words describing how inappropriate that term and its misuse in this way is. ARG.

    91. Re:Care to define that? by Doctor+O · · Score: 1
      Before a storm whips up here, the operative words are specifically target.

      What exactly did Salvador Allende do in 1973 to qualify as not innocent? I'm not being Anti-American here, there's lots of examples like that for *every* nation, if you dig deep enough. I'm just curious.

      In my book your stance on terrorism is exactly the same propaganda I see on CNN. Free your mind from that BS. Terrorism isn't about you, it's about how your governments have acted the last 10, 20 years. If you want to get rid of terrorism, LART your government and keep them from acting like dicks towards half of the population of the planet. You are so proud of your democracy, so use it. The rest of the world needs you as an example. Just in another way than you think. We know you are not your government, and we know you don't agree. Now just go ahead. Part of the aggression towards innocents comes from the fact that the Islamists claim you are, too, responsible for your government because you don't stand up and oppose it enough that it cannot be muted by the media. And to be honest, I can feel what they mean. Look at it from their perspective, and you see how easy it could be to solve the issue in 10, maybe 15 years, just by being a better world community citizen. Only you can make the change, we're watching from overseas. (Some of us.)

      That's it for today's off-topic rant. I need to finish that web site and order my material to get it out of my head. ;)
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    92. Re:Care to define that? by killjoe · · Score: 1

      Why is that?

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    93. Re:Care to define that? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      R U A GIRL???

    94. Re:Care to define that? by Kadmos · · Score: 1
      If the Internet is your livelyhood, then the threat of being shutdown or defaced (thereby damaging your company's reputation) is very real...

      No, they are not terrorists in threatening people's lives, but if they can prove that they can hit the economy, they accomplish the same goal: to create fear.


      And in other news I attribute last months blackout to terrorism (I am still terrified of the dark). Obviously the electricity company knows this (why else would I use electric lighting???)

      My only problem is that having the entire elec. company arrested under new Australian anti-terrorism laws will leave me permanently in the dark. Clearly this is a case of state sponsored terrorism!
    95. Re:Care to define that? by bigdavex · · Score: 1

      I assumed that readers would interpret "terrorism class" to mean "a class studying terrorism" rather than "a class that teaches one how to become a terrorist."

      My mother was startled when she saw the history class "Atomic Bomb" on my freshman schedule for engineering.

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      -Dave
    96. Re:Care to define that? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I don't really know of anyone who is "terrorized" by defaced web sites and high lag times, but I could be wrong.

      AOL users?

    97. Re:Care to define that? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Watch "Citizen Kane." In that movie, the word is "anarchist" instead of "terrorist." Same idea tho'.

    98. Re:Care to define that? by glesga_kiss · · Score: 1
      I once heard that quote attributed to Nelson Mandela.

      Ironically Nelson Mandela was referred to and treated as a terrorist for many years by the British Government.

      That said, I don't think that your "definition" is even close to appropriate.

      To be honest, I don't think there is a single definition. It is constantly changing. That's really my reference to "personal interests", a person considers someone to be a terrorist if they are essentially an enemy. And that status as an enemy can change over time, e.g. Al-Qaida.

    99. Re:Care to define that? by Handpaper · · Score: 1
      I love this quote from here.
      Prosecutor Jerry Wilson says he isn't abusing the law, which defines chemical weapons of mass destruction as "any substance that is designed or has the capability to cause death or serious injury" and contains toxic chemicals.
      I guess Union Carbide et al are just going to have to get out of the US then.

  11. Without the internet by MarkPNeyer · · Score: 5, Funny

    How will I be so productive at work ?

    oh... wait..

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    1. Re:Without the internet by kabrakan · · Score: 1

      I hope this doesn't implicate me in any way, but i require the internet to do my work. Darn:)

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      Marvin:"No, I'm mine."
    2. Re:Without the internet by calethix · · Score: 1

      We use Parature for our Help Desk system. They run the server/database so if we lose access to the Internet, our Help Desk loses the ability to look up and create tickets.

      That was a real bright idea. I hope they have plenty of pens and notepads. :)

  12. Repent! by focitrixilous+P · · Score: 5, Funny

    Evil bits! There is still time to mend your ways! Repent, evil bits, for the hour of your doom is at hand!

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    1. Re:Repent! by SpiffyMarc · · Score: 1

      Repent

      Shouldn't that be flip? ;-)

  13. ... and I predict by hike2 · · Score: 2, Funny

    I predict that tomorrow this prediction will be useless and untrue. Signed, the not so AC nobody

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    1. Re:... and I predict by jfengel · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yes, but only because the prediction was made in the first place and scared off the terrorists. We owe Mr. Gostev a huge debt of gratitude no matter what happens.

    2. Re:... and I predict by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 1

      Considering how this was posted at least yesterday, and I read it last night, I think we are safe.

      Incidentally, it will be good to see the google zeitgeist next month.

      Top searches: Water, Food, Blankets.

      People will have been stocking up on the essentials in case the net does go down!

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    3. Re:... and I predict by Mateito · · Score: 1
      Mr. Gostev

      So russia has their own goatse guy now.

  14. Seems pretty vauge by jeffs72 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    From Mosnews""Speaking at a conference hosted by Russian Information Agency Novosti, Aleksandr Gostev from Kaspersky Labs said information on this terrorist attack was published on special websites. He did not elaborate."

    What kind of attack, what 'special websites', what equipment or service is being attacked, what vulnerabilities does it exploit, etc, ad nasuem.
    Cripes, give us some sort of information, is the sky falling or isn't it?

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    1. Re:Seems pretty vauge by peragrin · · Score: 1

      >>What kind of attack, what 'special websites', what equipment or service is being attacked, what vulnerabilities does it exploit, etc, ad nasuem.

      Well I can't tell you what websites but i can tell you it the equipment and services.

      Of course anybody can guess this one

      Intel x86 processors running MSFT windows. That's why only sections go down. Linux, Mac's, and the other users can keep on trucking.

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    2. Re:Seems pretty vauge by jeffs72 · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Well, if it's just a windows virus, why the hoopla? A real internet 'attack' would have to be an exploit of TCP or maybe DNS/BIND, something to shut down the core routers or the like. Infecting some windows boxes that aren't behind a firewall isn't exactly the end of the world.

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  15. In other news... by RedShoeRider · · Score: 4, Funny

    We're going to slashdot the entire internet?

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    1. Re:In other news... by happyfrogcow · · Score: 1

      Productivity tomorrow is expected to rise to levels not seen since the 1980's.

      Why's that? Cocaine making a comeback to the office place?

    2. Re:In other news... by SEWilco · · Score: 1

      We already started with the sites which are trying to spread the warning.

    3. Re:In other news... by jannic · · Score: 3, Funny

      You got it - they'll just post a link to the dns root servers on slashdot...

    4. Re:In other news... by sharkdba · · Score: 2, Funny

      We're going to slashdot the entire internet?

      Here's the link.

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    5. Re:In other news... by Lifewolf · · Score: 1
      We're going to slashdot the entire internet?

      Yep, it's pretty much mutual assured destruction: Slashdot links to B3ta, B3ta links to Fark, Fark links to Slashdot. Then, on Friday, NTK links to anyone left standing.

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    6. Re:In other news... by Senzei · · Score: 2, Insightful
      You got it - they'll just post a link to the dns root servers on slashdot...

      Then say that a gmail address is handed out every hundred thousand pageloads, but only if you've pinged the site and attempted to ftp into it within the last minute and a half.

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    7. Re:In other news... by woah · · Score: 0

      Don't you mean just.. this

  16. e-jihad perhaps? by hot_Karls_bad_cavern · · Score: 4, Interesting

    SANS internet storm center has a note on this. They have seen increased scriptkiddie activity possibly leading up to this. Started on Sunday. Also read the note on the "drag-n-drop" exploit that is now seen in the wild and only requires you to move the scrollbar for it to install....several scanners are not picking up some of the new binaries being installed.

    1. Re:e-jihad perhaps? by slungsolow · · Score: 3, Interesting

      They do make a valid point about the college kids going back to school with those unsecure boxes and fat pipes.

      God I hates sluts and jocks.

    2. Re:e-jihad perhaps? by johnkoer · · Score: 1

      increased scriptkiddie activity

      Does this me we should raise the e-terror alert to orange?

    3. Re:e-jihad perhaps? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      surely you meant:

      set the e-terror alert to #FF8000

      ? ;o)

    4. Re:e-jihad perhaps? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      or e-crusade?

    5. Re:e-jihad perhaps? by Tassach · · Score: 1
      college kids going back to school with those unsecure boxes and fat pipes.
      Why does that make me think of skanky freshman chicks and oversized bongs?
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    6. Re:e-jihad perhaps? by Jord · · Score: 0, Offtopic
      Even more proof that people mod at random.

      Now will this get a funny mod or off-topic? I am betting on funny since it is off-topic

    7. Re:e-jihad perhaps? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      actually, he did make a point by stating the obvious, so it should be either "off-topic", "redundant" or "funny".

      of course, it sounds like flamebait to me.

    8. Re:e-jihad perhaps? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why does that make me think of skanky freshman chicks and oversized bongs?

      Fresh man-chicks? That's a mental image I could do without.

    9. Re:e-jihad perhaps? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      I like sluts.

  17. Ok, so no what? by ALeavitt · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Armed with this foreknowledge, what can we do besides wait and see what happens? One of TFAs stated that there's really nothing we can do to defend against the attack, so what's the point in worrying about it? Either it will happen, and folks in the US and Western Europe will be inconvenienced, or it won't happen, and we'll all have worried for nothing. At this point, it seems like this knowledge, while nice to have, is somewhat useless.

    Also, why tomorrow? Wouldn't it send a more powerful message to wait a few weeks and do it on September 11th?

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    1. Re:Ok, so no what? by VT_hawkeye · · Score: 2, Insightful

      September 11th is a Saturday. Less visibility, less economic disruption.

    2. Re:Ok, so no what? by jewf1sh · · Score: 5, Funny

      Also, why tomorrow?

      Obviously it's because August 26 is Macaulay Culkin's birthday. Everyone knows terrorists are big fans of the Home Alone movies, though not the third one.

    3. Re:Ok, so no what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Fans? I thought those movies were an early attack!

    4. Re:Ok, so no what? by xsupergr0verx · · Score: 2, Funny

      If that's the case, I'm setting up a swinging paint can trap on my firewall now.

      I still have 300lbs of duct tape and saran wrap laying around from the last REAL threat. /sarcasm

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    5. Re:Ok, so no what? by kfg · · Score: 2, Funny

      Oh come on man! Duct tape and Saran Wrap are so last year's technology. You need to upgrade to one of these things now:

      Terrorist proof bed

      KFG

    6. Re:Ok, so no what? by Mr.Sharpy · · Score: 1

      September 11th is a Saturday. Less visibility, less economic disruption.

      And Cher will be at the DeSoto center in Mississippi on Sept. 11th! And as we all know, all islamic terrorists love Cher! They wouldn't dare miss one of her farewell tour shows for some weak 'cyber-attack'. Her ageless, plastic face and fiber optic hair draws them in everytime! Their only regret about the Sept. 11th show is that it will not also feature Cyndi Lauper as other tour dates did. What a pity.

    7. Re:Ok, so no what? by dspeyer · · Score: 2, Insightful
      That's just what They want you to think! (The governments, not the terrorists -- actually, the terrorists too.)

      My thought as to what we can do is we can all run logging software and see where the attacks (if any) come from; then we can all group our data and trace them to their source. If enough of us get involved, especially if we get a good geographic spread (should be possible) we should be able to nap the culprit before the CIA do. We could discorage terrorism and embariss fascism at the same time!

      Recent physical attacks demonstrated that an active populace does better than any government agency (remember the shoe bomber?). This is even more true for cyber-terrorism.

      Of course, this all assumes the attack is big enough for us to notice. The internet can route around damage and congestion very effectively.

    8. Re:Ok, so no what? by TeamSPAM · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If the timing is within the next few days, then I think it has more to do with the presidental elections in Russia. Which I believe are scheduled for this Sunday. This may tie into the 2 plane crashes in Russia that happened within minutes of each other.

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    9. Re:Ok, so no what? by LearnToSpell · · Score: 3, Funny

      They made a THIRD one?! Jesus, no wonder they hate us.

    10. Re:Ok, so no what? by micromoog · · Score: 4, Funny
      One of TFAs stated that there's really nothing we can do to defend against the attack, so what's the point in worrying about it?

      Shhh, you might reveal the pointlessness of the Department of Homeland Security!

    11. Re:Ok, so no what? by mrjackson2000 · · Score: 1

      if it happens, i think i'll attempt to get a date (and probably fail miserably)

    12. Re:Ok, so no what? by Zeromous · · Score: 1

      Funny. I thought it was because it was my birthday and *maybe* in celebration of Linux's lucky 13th

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    13. Re:Ok, so no what? by Mateito · · Score: 1

      Thanks. Now there's half chewed mash-potato on my monitor.

      Not that I chew mash potato, of course....

    14. Re:Ok, so no what? by Creepy · · Score: 1

      It's also Mexican soap star Thalia's birthday, as well as Branford Marsalis and was the birthday of Mother Theresa, as well.

      I just remind myself of that when trying to erase the stigma of sharing a birthday with Macaulay...

      Anyhow, you missed Home Alone IV, which was straight-to-TV drivel. It also didn't star MacCaulay.

    15. Re:Ok, so no what? by TopShelf · · Score: 1

      And can you explain just why you seem to know so much about this show???

      Guards!!!

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    16. Re:Ok, so no what? by Uerige · · Score: 1

      D'uh! Of course there is something we can do: Shut down the internet before they do it! Quick, if you see any boxes with blinkenlights on them, UNPLUG!
      At least I _think_ it would help.

    17. Re:Ok, so no what? by bar-agent · · Score: 1

      folks in the US and Western Europe will be inconvenienced

      Inconvenienced?! My world will end, you insensitive clod!!!

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    18. Re:Ok, so no what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Armed with this foreknowledge, what can we do besides wait and see what happens?

      As a professional sysadmin, I suggest the following steps on your machine:
      1. Patch your machine. Pleast, please, run Windows Update, Up2date, apt-get, yum, MacOSX Software Update, ppro, or whatever the automated tool is on your system.
      2. Install a decent virus scanner. Symantec Anti-virus is good on Windows and MacOSX, clamav is good on Unix.
      3. Use Mozilla Firefox for day-to-day web surfind. See http://www.mozilla.org
      4. If you're on Windows XP, install sp2 and enable the firewall.
      Of course, this is just what it takes to keep the script-kiddies to get an average machine through an average day. I don't see how a "cyber terrorist" day would be any different, since any machine on the public-internet is already under attack all-day every-day.

      Remember, when you plug into any kind of broadband connection (or even a modem connection), you have to worry about every hacker and script-kiddie in the world.

      So, please, patch your machine, and buy some coffee/beer/cookies for the people who run the big backbones!

      -Luke
    19. Re:Ok, so no what? by lJlolel · · Score: 0

      I hate to tell you-- they made a fourth one

  18. What a load of 1t08vwnw8t NO CARRIER by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    What a load of 1t08vwnw8t NO CARRIER

  19. solution.. by LBArrettAnderson · · Score: 4, Funny

    NO! don't let them anywhere NEAR the internet's power switch!

    1. Re:solution.. by Lavaeolus · · Score: 1

      Too late! They've already found it

    2. Re:solution.. by Lindril · · Score: 1

      Sure. Keep them out of Al Gore's utility closet and we're fine.

  20. Death of Internet predicted, film at 11 by gclef · · Score: 5, Informative
    The Kapersky folks have already started disavowing the statements that are attributed to them. Apparently this is a big case of sensationalism (surprise, surprise). NtBugTraq forwarded on the Kapersky statement on it, which had this useful bit of info:
    Kaspersky is not predicting the end of the Internet tomorrow - or even in the near future. The story stems from brief comments made yesterday at a press conference which was dedicated to cybercrime and the problems of spam.

    At this press conference, Kaspersky commented that the possibility of terrorists using the Internet as a tool to attack certain countries was a reality. As an example, he cited the fact that a number of Arabic and Hebrew language websites contained an announcement of an 'electronic jihad' against Israel, to start on 26th August 2004.

    In an interview today, Kaspersky stressed that such information was not necessarily trustworthy. 'We don't know who is behind these statements.' He went on to clarify: 'It's not the first time the term 'electronic jihad' has been used. We've seen this before, with the focus being on sending racist emails, and defacing and hacking Israeli web sites. But it is the first time I have seen sites encouraging the use of Internet attacks against one country as a form of terrorism.'


    Summary: nothing to see here. Move along.
    1. Re:Death of Internet predicted, film at 11 by MarsDefenseMinister · · Score: 1

      Well what the hell am I going to do with all the beans, rice, and lard that I've stockpiled? I sure hope that civilization collapses soon, because I'm not going to eat that nasty stuff for just no reason at all.

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    2. Re:Death of Internet predicted, film at 11 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Heh, yeah. The Internet as a reliable source of news and information. What next, accurate weather predictions?

    3. Re:Death of Internet predicted, film at 11 by owlstead · · Score: 1

      Move along? Are you nuts? I haven't read so much funny funnies in ages on /.

    4. Re:Death of Internet predicted, film at 11 by nametaken · · Score: 1


      "A coordinated online strike against Internet servers by terrorists, dubbed "electronic jihad," may or may not strike this week, security experts said. One security researcher in Moscow warned that Thursday would be the day in question."

      Have to love reporters. "may or may not strike this week". Yeah, the world may or may not end this week. "One security researcher... Thursday would be the day in question" I bet I can find 10 guys withing 5 blocks of here claiming the apocalypse is nigh.

    5. Re:Death of Internet predicted, film at 11 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      make a lot of refried beans and rice and eat a lot of mexican dinners? thats what i would do.

  21. In other news: by Stradenko · · Score: 4, Insightful
    A coordinated online strike against Internet servers by terrorists, dubbed "electronic jihad," may or may not strike this week


    The sun may or may not go nova this week.

    I may or may not get myself a real girlfriend.

    there may or may not be dupes posted on our beloved /.

    Kevin Mitnick may or may not like chicken.

    You may or may not get that raise (job, for those unemployed) this week.

    It's easy to make
    1. Re:In other news: by cecille · · Score: 1

      A REAL girlfriend, eh? So what do you have now then? The virtual one from yesterday?

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    2. Re:In other news: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >I may or may not get myself a real girlfriend.

      Well, depends on your finances and personnal taste:

      - fake girlfriend: $6499.00 (pros: available with pink hairs and big breasts. Cons: doesn't talk (or is that another Pro?))

      - real girlfriend: ~30K$/year (pros: let me call you back on this)

    3. Re:In other news: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I may or may not get myself a real girlfriend.

      Keep dreaming, sport.

      Mike Bouma.

    4. Re:In other news: by discord5 · · Score: 2, Funny
      I may or may not get myself a real girlfriend.

      Confucius say: "Man who write on slashdot about possibility of getting lucky, reduces chances to next to nothing"

    5. Re:In other news: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      if mitnick dosent like chicken hes the real terrorist

    6. Re:In other news: by jmulvey · · Score: 1

      Being born with an extra right hand: Priceless.

  22. Now in this case. . . by kfg · · Score: 0, Redundant

    . . .seeing "Nothing for you to see here. Please move along." when I clicked on the story really was rather amusing.

    Oh, and I predict that terrorists will redirect an asteroid into Detroit (well, we can dream, can't we?) on the day after tomorrow. Remember, if it comes true you heard from me first. . .unless you're with the FBI or something. In that case I never said a word.

    KFG

    1. Re:Now in this case. . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Detroit? Aim further southwest.
      Like SCO headquarters.

    2. Re:Now in this case. . . by kfg · · Score: 1

      There is already an asteroid aimed at SCO. It's very big, and it's very blue.

      Spectrographic analysis reveals that the blue color results from a very high lawyer content.

      If the asteroid impacts as expected a smaller red object following in its wake will compound the damage. Strangly, the red color seems to be the result of nacho flavored Doritos sedimentized out of Jolt Cola. Scientists are baffled.

      KFG

    3. Re:Now in this case. . . by EddieBurkett · · Score: 1
      Oh, and I predict that terrorists will redirect an asteroid into Detroit...

      Sure, and it will only be less than 6m in diameter.

      What's with all these doom and gloom headlines that are nothing more than sensationalism? If I didn't know any better, I'd think Tom Ridge was submitting articles. . .

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  23. Time for a... by falso · · Score: 2, Funny

    wget -m http://*

    1. Re:Time for a... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When it finishes, could you email me a copy?

      Thx

  24. At moments like these... by Apuleius · · Score: 1

    I'm real glad I still have all those MREs I stored up for Y2K.

    1. Re:At moments like these... by jfengel · · Score: 1

      Ah, the 1999s. They should be peaking in flavor just about now. I'm so glad we didn't have to eat all of them back in 2000; they were so immature then. With an extra four years in the package to ripen and mature, the aromas will be brighter and the tannins will have mellowed.

  25. The scariest part of this story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Describing theinquirer.net as a 'news service.'

  26. Erm... by Hungry+Student · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    why?

  27. Initial symptoms? by miketang16 · · Score: 1, Interesting

    After seeing this story I'm beginning to wonder if perhaps I've begun to feel the initial symptoms of this attack... or if my ISP is just shit. (Betting on the latter)

    As of a day or so ago, my bandwidth went down the drain. 3Mbit cable line was throttled down to 500Kbit, with massive speed test fluctuations. Plus, playing anything on HL servers I get a choke of around 100, meaning my bandwidth is saturated.

    Anyone else having similar issues?

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    1. Re:Initial symptoms? by pclminion · · Score: 4, Insightful
      After seeing this story I'm beginning to wonder if perhaps I've begun to feel the initial symptoms of this attack...

      Don't jump to conclusions too quickly... The chances that somebody, somewhere on the planet is experiencing Internet-related problems on the same day as this was announced is pretty much 100%. It just so happens that you're the guy with the problems. Doesn't necessarily mean anything.

    2. Re:Initial symptoms? by Detritus · · Score: 1

      The number of email viruses that I receive has increased to a level 500% higher than normal for the last few days. I'm not sure why.

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    3. Re:Initial symptoms? by cpeterso · · Score: 1


      I think I am beginning to feel the initial symptoms of this attack. I clicked on a web site linked from here on Slashdot and the web site was overloaded and then went offline! Must be cyberterrorists... won't someone please think of the CHILDREN?!!

    4. Re:Initial symptoms? by schmoo.me · · Score: 0

      Or maybe They're paying you to convince him that he's wrong.... ;)

  28. Stock up on internet today! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Download everything you can so that if you can't use the internet for a few days you'll be ready!

  29. I'll be ok with that... by Ced_Ex · · Score: 1

    Doesn't this just mean a day off for most of us? At my work, no internet, and the place is useless. I mean, if your servers and network are secure, but the rest of the net is down, there really isn't much left for you to do but wait until everyone else gets their act together.

    Just a day off if you ask me.

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  30. Read Slashdot by narsiman · · Score: 1

    Fine. I will read slashdot day after tomorrow and pay bills over the weekend.

    And my employer gets more productive time out of me. Now beat that you terrorists.

  31. Many more SSH login attempts by yebb · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Has anyone else noticed a lot of automated (presumably) login attempts for the users 'root', 'test' and 'guest' over SSH?

    I never used to get this, and now I seem to get dozens of them every day.
    I wonder if this is related to the so called "dooms-day" tomorrow.

    1. Re:Many more SSH login attempts by whovian · · Score: 1

      Yep. hosts.deny is your friend.

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    2. Re:Many more SSH login attempts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
      Just me. Sorry. If you would please just reset your root password to something easier to guess, I won't have to keep cluttering up your log so much.

      Thanks in advance!

    3. Re:Many more SSH login attempts by thhamm · · Score: 1

      i am getting these on all servers i have access to for a couple of weeks now. seems more like a stupid bruteforce attack to me.

      should be no real problem, if youve not completely screwed up your config. or is there a new exploit i missed?

    4. Re:Many more SSH login attempts by An+ominous+Cow+art · · Score: 1

      I've seen them too, and was only able to find a little information on them. According to some posts on the INCIDENTS mailing list from securitydocus.com, it may or may not have been related to some bad passwords on RH 7.2 systems, no more information then that. FWIW.

    5. Re:Many more SSH login attempts by lambent · · Score: 2, Informative


      I got some of these, too. I did some investigating of the attacking computers ... appear to be very poorly protected boxes running older versions of linux with older versions of SSH, with web and MySQL services turned on.

      In other words, most likely easily compromised machines which are probably not under their owners' control.

    6. Re:Many more SSH login attempts by anthonyclark · · Score: 1

      how would hosts.deny help? Do I drop someone in if they fail their first password guess? second? All the 'attacks' I've seen try once or twice and then stop. Of course, they never come from the same host or IP either.

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    7. Re:Many more SSH login attempts by NullStream · · Score: 1

      From the Yunann province in China?
      Seen thouse over the past few weeks.
      Nothing to worry about (unless you have easily broken passwords and badly named accounts).

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      "Survival of the fittest Max, and we've got the fucking gun!" - Pi
    8. Re:Many more SSH login attempts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's weird you should say that because every day I get about a dozen of those login attemps "user", "root", "admin"...

      admin/password from 4 Time(s)
      admin/password from 2 Time(s)
      guest/password from 2 Time(s)
      guest/password from 6 Time(s)
      guest/password from 1 Time(s)
      root/password from 6 Time(s)
      root/password from 3 Time(s)
      test/password from 4 Time(s)
      test/password from 1 Time(s)
      test/password from 6 Time(s)
      test/password from 2 Time(s)
      user/password from 2 Time(s)
      user/password from 1 Time(s)

      For me, these started at the same time that I started getting some "1stYellow pages listing" spam.

      Weird.

    9. Re:Many more SSH login attempts by An+ominous+Cow+art · · Score: 1

      I should add that I ran nmap against a few of the systems that tried to log in as test/admin/whatever, and ij each case they were detected as running Linux 2.4-2.5 kernel. Also FWIW.

    10. Re:Many more SSH login attempts by JawzX · · Score: 3, Interesting

      As a matter of fact a customer of mine was recently probed and her dsl (verizon) router was temp. seized by an IP originating in China... First time I've ever seen that. Changed her password, stealthed all ports, updated firmware, no problems since, but stange nontheless.

    11. Re:Many more SSH login attempts by thhamm · · Score: 1

      now im wondering, what success one could have with this.

      1 out of 100.000?

      how many slap their dist on the drive and just let it be?

    12. Re:Many more SSH login attempts by Beryllium+Sphere(tm) · · Score: 4, Informative

      >Has anyone else noticed a lot of automated (presumably) login attempts for the users 'root', 'test' and 'guest' over SSH?

      That started last month. It's a routine rootkit installer. One report is that in addition to trying for stupid passowrds it also attempts the overflow exploit from last year that got fixed in 3.7.1p2.

    13. Re:Many more SSH login attempts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Keep getting these for past couple week. I never get much of these before also.

      admin/password from 61.220.197.210: 2 Time(s)
      admin/password from 69.89.66.18: 2 Time(s)
      guest/password from 61.220.197.210: 1 Time(s)
      guest/password from 69.89.66.18: 1 Time(s)
      root/password from 61.220.197.210: 3 Time(s)
      root/password from 69.89.66.18: 3 Time(s)
      test/password from 61.220.197.210: 2 Time(s)
      test/password from 69.89.66.18: 2 Time(s)
      user/password from 61.220.197.210: 1 Time(s)
      user/password from 69.89.66.18: 1 Time(s)
      admin/password from 203.186.157.37: 2 Time(s)
      guest/password from 203.186.157.37: 1 Time(s)
      root/password from 203.186.157.37: 3 Time(s)
      test/password from 203.186.157.37: 2 Time(s)
      user/password from 203.186.157.37: 1 Time(s)
      admin/password from 24.37.147.239: 2 Time(s)
      guest/password from 24.37.147.239: 1 Time(s)
      root/password from 24.37.147.239: 3 Time(s)
      test/password from 24.37.147.239: 2 Time(s)
      user/password from 24.37.147.239: 1 Time(s)
      admin/password from 219.153.4.62: 2 Time(s)
      guest/password from 219.153.4.62: 1 Time(s)
      root/password from 219.153.4.62: 3 Time(s)
      test/password from 219.153.4.62: 2 Time(s)
      user/password from 219.153.4.62: 1 Time(s)
      admin/password from 194.78.243.110: 2 Time(s)
      guest/password from 194.78.243.110: 1 Time(s)
      root/password from 194.78.243.110: 3 Time(s)
      test/password from 194.78.243.110: 2 Time(s)
      user/password from 194.78.243.110: 1 Time(s)
      admin/password from 221.166.169.102: 2 Time(s)
      guest/password from 221.166.169.102: 1 Time(s)
      root/password from 221.166.169.102: 3 Time(s)
      test/password from 221.166.169.102: 2 Time(s)
      user/password from 221.166.169.102: 1 Time(s)

    14. Re:Many more SSH login attempts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative
      From http://isc.sans.org/diary.php?date=2004-08-22:
      Joel Esler brought to our attention a new version of the brutessh code that has been posted and appears to match the scanning that we have been seeing lately. It appears that we finally have a solution to our mystery. Thanks for all the folks who submitted information and for everyone's time and effort that was put forth to coming up with a resolution!!
    15. Re:Many more SSH login attempts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't like doing metoos, but yeah I have been seeing that. Everytime I notice that I just ban their IP/24 netblock area because most of the ones I have seen haven't originated anywhere I care about.

    16. Re:Many more SSH login attempts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I work at a webhosting company, and i monitor network traffic for attacks like that.

      It's a new thing, and we're already blocking most of it. It's just compromised machines attacking other machines to gain access.. just in large amounts.

    17. Re:Many more SSH login attempts by IANAAC · · Score: 2, Interesting
      I was consistently getting these up until this week. None so far this week.

      It was only coming from three different IP addresses, so I contacted the upstream provider of the IPs. Two immediately responded with "We've shut them out until they fix their boxes". The other responded with "Well, it's not us, it's a customer of ours", with with I responded "And I'm SURE it's a violation of your TOS/AUP". They then responded to say they'd cut off the offending account.

      Sometimes contacting the ISP actually does help.

    18. Re:Many more SSH login attempts by Maniacal · · Score: 1

      We've seen quite a bit of activity from China lately.

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    19. Re:Many more SSH login attempts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ive set it to your password now. just login at 127.0.0.1 please dont delete the entire drive *wink*

    20. Re:Many more SSH login attempts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Deny All, only allow trusted hosts.

    21. Re:Many more SSH login attempts by secolactico · · Score: 2, Informative

      how would hosts.deny help? Do I drop someone in if they fail their first password guess?

      Nope, you deny ALL for sshd service and then in hosts.allow, add the IPs from where you intend to admin.

      If you provide ssh service to third parties, however, this is not the solution.

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    22. Re:Many more SSH login attempts by focitrixilous+P · · Score: 1
      yeah. Not myself, but a friend who runs her (yes, her) own website. She recently was complaining about test ssh's, and the fact she would get a daily email about them.

      Being a good friend, I did the only sensible thing and tryed to ssh as test with the password roughly "Could you please make a test account, it would make this much easier -focitrixilous P"

      I doubt they would get enough computers this way to get enough power for a nation wide DoS, but what do I know?

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    23. Re:Many more SSH login attempts by Rufus211 · · Score: 4, Informative

      I just found they're done by a program called brutessh2. It's a little brute-force scanner like everyone has guessed. You can find the source for it here. Be sure to check your passwords against its password list.

    24. Re:Many more SSH login attempts by WarMonkey · · Score: 0


      Makes me wonder if the discovery of an independently evolved, "wild" AI would look something like this...

      "Manifesting a newborn will to exist, and continue existing, the bastardized offspring of spammers malware and Windows XP Service Pack 2 crawled forth from the primordial cyber-sludge..."

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    25. Re:Many more SSH login attempts by AbbyNormal · · Score: 1

      Hold on, I'll do it for you..Just a sec...

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    26. Re:Many more SSH login attempts by ekimminau · · Score: 2, Interesting

      A very much protected system I help administer (behind a hardware firewall, ip tables limiting ports and access) which was running a VERY up-to-date Fedora core 1 and whose only means of remote access was by shared SSH2 secure keys was hacked Sunday night. I found multiple outbound sessions to .de IRC servers and rebooted the box. The system was unuseable at that point. It would not boot again. YMMV.

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      Armaments, 2-9-21 And Saint Attila raised the hand grenade up on high, saying, 'O Lord, bless this Thy hand grenade' N
    27. Re:Many more SSH login attempts by buddhahat · · Score: 2, Funny

      thanks for the link to brutessh2. I scanned the password list and didn't see my root password so I added my password to the list. thanks again!

      oh wait...

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    28. Re:Many more SSH login attempts by linzeal · · Score: 1

      Exactly all my services are whitelisted. Except for p2p apps which run virtually naked in the DMZ on a linux box.

    29. Re:Many more SSH login attempts by ThePlaydoh · · Score: 1

      I saw those same login attempts to a ftp server I was running the other day.

    30. Re:Many more SSH login attempts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you choose a root password that is in that list, you're already beyond help.

    31. Re:Many more SSH login attempts by NightWulf · · Score: 1

      Ironically I scanned the list of passwords, and God isn't even on there! When I saw that documentary Hackers with that big lipped chick they said God is the most popular password! Someone really dropped the ball on that one.

    32. Re:Many more SSH login attempts by fockewulf · · Score: 1

      You could always set PermitRootLogin to no in sshd_config, not that it would prevent any more attempts. It just might be more secure that way

    33. Re:Many more SSH login attempts by dpilot · · Score: 1

      Never heard of a 'hardware' router getting cracked before. Was it truly a crack, or was it something like bogus default settings that were never changed?

      --
      The living have better things to do than to continue hating the dead.
    34. Re:Many more SSH login attempts by #define · · Score: 1

      I've been getting a large quantity of those since the beginning of August with a steady increase and from many different IPs. Setting the stage for a DDoS attack?

    35. Re:Many more SSH login attempts by Zerbey · · Score: 1

      Every day for the last, I dunno, 3 years?

      If they get irritating enough I firewall them, otherwise they're no more irritating than the mosquitoes that lie in wait for me outside my front door every day.

    36. Re:Many more SSH login attempts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      IIRC login to the root account via (Open)SSH is disabled in the default config. What idiot actually goes and enables that feature?

    37. Re:Many more SSH login attempts by sunset · · Score: 1

      Sounds like the machine of one of your remote users was compromised with a keylogger.

    38. Re:Many more SSH login attempts by IANAAC · · Score: 1
      Hopefully you'll take the time (or find someone who will take the time) to do forensics on the box. That would also include a full check of the hardware firewall. Seriously.

      If the box was as protected as you say, it was probably done from the inside.

    39. Re:Many more SSH login attempts by gregarican · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Same with phishing attempts. I view the e-mail's document source to find the redirected site. Then contacting the site's listed web hosting company and domain name hosting company usually helps keep things in check. Not to mention contacting the supposed company being misrepresented (PayPal, eBay, U.S. Bank, etc.) with those same contact details.

    40. Re:Many more SSH login attempts by ekimminau · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately, the system had a hard SLA which meant wipe and reload ASAP. It is being watched very closely for further signs of the culprit(s) return..

      --
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    41. Re:Many more SSH login attempts by imac.usr · · Score: 2, Interesting
      checkauth("root","2112",buff);

      Sweet, another Rush fan!

      --
      I use Macs for work, Linux for education, and Windows for cardplaying.
    42. Re:Many more SSH login attempts by Rufus211 · · Score: 1

      sadly the default debian install has root access turned on by default.

    43. Re:Many more SSH login attempts by drawfour · · Score: 1

      Be sure to check your passwords against its password list.

      If you find your password in that password list, please perform the following steps to correct the problem:
      1. (optional) Reach for the power cord on your computer(s) (yes, ALL of them) and remove it from the electrical outlet.
      2. Remove the cases from the computer.
      3. Take a sledgehammer (axe, regular hammer, anything hard that can do damage) and smash repeatedly into the insides of your computer(s).
      4. Go watch TV. Your brain obviously cannot handle anything more strenuous than that.

    44. Re:Many more SSH login attempts by maiden_taiwan · · Score: 1
      Disable password authentication and permit public-key authentication only, and your attackers won't even get a chance to enter their passwords.

      While you're at it, use the "TCP wrappers" feature to limit connections by host, and most unwanted connections will fail at an even earlier stage.

      More info.

    45. Re:Many more SSH login attempts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apache wasnt running? PHP wasnt available? Theres tons of exploits. Good luck finding the one that was used.

    46. Re:Many more SSH login attempts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yep, I've been seeing these.

      What I find unusual is that as well as "root" and "test" or "guest", the final attempt is always for user "Bye bye"... now this, I don't understand.

      Anyone?

    47. Re:Many more SSH login attempts by irokitt · · Score: 1

      Why sure, my password is *********.

      Have fun, leave my .mp3s alone.

      --
      If my answers frighten you, stop asking scary questions.
    48. Re:Many more SSH login attempts by Old+Wolf · · Score: 1

      checkauth("scriptkiddie", "who needs arrays?");

    49. Re:Many more SSH login attempts by JawzX · · Score: 1

      it appears they brute-forced the router password...She had complained of slow connections and a look back at the security log showed endless "Administrator login attempted, Failed: Invalid Password" events.

  32. In other news... by Westech · · Score: 5, Funny

    Productivity tomorrow is expected to rise to levels not seen since the 1980's.

  33. OH NOES!!1 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They'll delete the "Internet" icon off their desktops! The bastards!

  34. Better get some plastic sheeting and duct tape by Myrrh · · Score: 1

    Gotta hold that server together somehow.

  35. dhs confirms this story by ScArE2100 · · Score: 1, Funny

    Department of Homeland Security says that we're at code yellow "Significant risk of terrorist attack". This confirms the story!

  36. SP2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Service Pack 2 will be available via Windows Update.

    1. Re:SP2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Haha mod this up asap :D

  37. I don't know about the Internet... by Fnkmaster · · Score: 5, Funny

    But I can predict with 100% certainty that my eyes will meltdown in their sockets if they don't change the IT section color scheme soon.

    1. Re:I don't know about the Internet... by DrSkwid · · Score: 1


      hey, lamer, try this

      http://it.slashdot.org/users.pl?op=edithome

      [x] Light (reduce the complexity of Slashdot's HTML for AvantGo, Lynx, or slow connections)

      --
      There are places where the networks are not touching,and there are places where they are-Boeing's Lori Gunter
    2. Re:I don't know about the Internet... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ohhh! you mean like Indiana Jones and Raiders of the lost ark ?

    3. Re:I don't know about the Internet... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, I wonder if Taco has ever seen his new creation on an LCD with low contrast. My laptops LCD is not the greatest, the LCD contrast is relatively low. Basically I can hardly read some of this stuff with this new color scheme.

      Today I was actually wondering if I should take a picture with a dig camera and email it to Rob. Perhaps this is the best thing to do instead of bitching in unrelated stories.

    4. Re:I don't know about the Internet... by Psychic+Burrito · · Score: 1

      Here you go, nice colors reinstated. Just remove the "it" in the URL :-)

    5. Re:I don't know about the Internet... by schmoo.me · · Score: 0

      i second that

    6. Re:I don't know about the Internet... by ameoba · · Score: 1

      I've got the mod points, but can't find "-1 : Get over it".

      --
      my sig's at the bottom of the page.
    7. Re:I don't know about the Internet... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For you, maybe "-1 : I am Taco's bitch"? I mean, everybody agrees it makes Slashdot painful and annoying to read and it's a pain in the ass to manually change it on every IT story URL. You seem to be the only one who wants to take it in the ass from Rob and friends.

    8. Re:I don't know about the Internet... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I tried that myself earlier, it still uses the same ugly color scheme, but with a retro 90's styling.

      and calling the guy "Lamer"? What sort of emotional problems do you have?

    9. Re:I don't know about the Internet... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      here ya go.

      or if you want to make a point set your local proxy to re-write foo.slashdot.org/yada to ack-my-eyes!.slashdot.org/yada

      and if you don't have a local proxy then you could just send nasty email to The Taco and Tennille till they change it.

    10. Re:I don't know about the Internet... by DrSkwid · · Score: 1


      Its not emotional problems, it is just a plain fact that if you can't write a filter to change incoming html to suit your preferences you are lame, it is almost a definition of lameness.

      Get over it.

      --
      There are places where the networks are not touching,and there are places where they are-Boeing's Lori Gunter
    11. Re:I don't know about the Internet... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      it is just a plain fact that if you can't write a filter to change incoming html to suit your preferences you are lame

      That is beyond sad to judge the worth of a person by some piece of trivial knowledge that may or may not fall within the interest level of a person. The fact is that the color schemes at /. are awful and shouldn't need to be changed within a proxy, the thoughtful, considerate, and smart thing to do would be to allow users to set it in preferences. That is the failing of /. crew in the customer service area.

      Your failure as a human being was to taunt someone who joked about a misfeature of this web site. Aside from your lack of maturity you also lack technical skill, as the suggestion you made was worthless.

      Try this: get some counseling, lamer.

    12. Re:I don't know about the Internet... by DrSkwid · · Score: 1


      lol, you really have a bee in your bonnet about this

      lame / elite is about as black and white a computer issue as you can have.

      can't knock up a filter ergo you are lame, it's really that simple

      now shut up

      --
      There are places where the networks are not touching,and there are places where they are-Boeing's Lori Gunter
  38. Hopefully... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Slashdot
    ThinkGeek
    Linux.com
    Google.com

    Hopefully these will still be up tomarrow... they're pretty much the only sites I go to.

    1. Re:Hopefully... by dragonp12 · · Score: 1

      You mean you don't go to any link from google.com?

      --
      This is me. Don't like it? That's unlucky.
  39. No work! by omghi2u · · Score: 1

    OMG if the "internet goes away" that means no work tomorrow!

    Please I hope this is true! ;-)

  40. Update and Clarification from the Horse's Mouth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative
  41. Sounds serious, maybe by cephyn · · Score: 4, Funny


    A coordinated online strike against Internet servers by terrorists, dubbed "electronic jihad," may or may not strike this week, security experts said.


    Well, I may or may not be concerned then.

    --
    Moo.
  42. Some alternate names by sczimme · · Score: 5, Funny


    e-had - a purely electronic holy war

    i-had - much like an e-had, but it's portable

    --
    I want to drag this out as long as possible. Bring me my protractor.
    1. Re:Some alternate names by penultimatepost · · Score: 1

      ROTFLMAO! :D:D:D:D:D:D

    2. Re:Some alternate names by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      apple just announced its new marketing campaign:

      Apple's g-had on Intel and AMD

    3. Re:Some alternate names by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i-had is an electronic holy war declared against Apple.

    4. Re:Some alternate names by glsunder · · Score: 2, Funny

      or the texas version:
      yeehaw-ed

    5. Re:Some alternate names by value_added · · Score: 1

      you forgot ...

      gnu-had - like e-had, but instead of fighting, everyone just complains about the other side

    6. Re:Some alternate names by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and j-had, so it's cross-platform

    7. Re:Some alternate names by JPelorat · · Score: 2, Funny

      That's GNU/Had, you ingrate.

      -RMS

      --
      Hokey statistics and ancient misconceptions are no match for a good thought in your head, kid!
    8. Re:Some alternate names by farlcow · · Score: 1, Funny

      I heard that Apple was planning on invoking the DMCA to prevent terrorists from carrying out thier own terrorist acts using the i-had system.

    9. Re:Some alternate names by micromoog · · Score: 1

      Thank you. I fully expect to hear these on Fox News tonight.

    10. Re:Some alternate names by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      iMac - yet more fanatical devotees
      *ducks and covers*

    11. Re:Some alternate names by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Techno Jihad - I believe that's the name of the song by Psychosonic.

    12. Re:Some alternate names by Sanga · · Score: 1

      e-gads

    13. Re:Some alternate names by AhabTheArab · · Score: 1

      Yes, al-Qaeda's marketing department definitly jumping on the bandwagon. The bandwagon left the western world no less than four years ago, it is finally pulling into the middle east.

    14. Re:Some alternate names by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      k-had - much like e-had and i-had except that it's been given a KDE interface.

      See http://www.fact-index.com/k/kh/khad.html
      for a full description of the project. ;-)

    15. Re:Some alternate names by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about a Butlarian Jihad? If we have no computers they can't do any damage right?

    16. Re:Some alternate names by ViolentGreen · · Score: 2, Funny

      What about a slash-had, where everyone just complains period.

      --
      Not everything is analogous to cars. Car analogies rarely work.
    17. Re:Some alternate names by Frank+T.+Lofaro+Jr. · · Score: 1

      Wouldn't that be iHad? :)

      --
      Just because it CAN be done, doesn't mean it should!
  43. A terrorist is ... by doudou42 · · Score: 0

    A terrorist is someone who is not with me...

    Because, if someone is not with me, he is against me.
    And if someone is against me, it terrorize me.

  44. Oh no! by pedestrian+crossing · · Score: 4, Funny

    I was supposed to do a major network re-configuration tomorrow, damn, now I'll get the blame for bringing down the whole internet!

    --
    A house divided against itself cannot stand.
  45. so far this week by WormholeFiend · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I noticed a lot of my favourite overseas sites have been slow to load, while others, located in North America, load normally...

    Just an impression though. I did not notice any more lag than usual in the online games I play

    1. Re:so far this week by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Look at the traffice Report. That could explain your troubles for overseas access...

      http://www.internettrafficreport.com/main.htm

      My 10(base2)

  46. SANS aren't taking this very seriously by alanxyzzy · · Score: 2, Informative
    http://isc.incidents.org/diary.php?date=2004-08-24
    The ISC would like to go out on a limb and predict that the Internet will not vaporize into a cloud of nothingness this Thursday, but if it does, it's been our pleasure to help stave off its inevitable annihilation this long.

    See also this VMyths posting to theFull Disclosure mailing list

  47. Mostly due to.... by waterford0069 · · Score: 1

    the slashdoting to http://www.kaspersky.com/

  48. strange port hits by e_lazardo · · Score: 1

    Anyone else seen an unusual hit count for port 554 (rtsp)?

    --

    Planet10, RealSoOn

    1. Re:strange port hits by gregarican · · Score: 1

      Not at my company's firewall, although SANS shows a big spike in port hits across their polling community. I just blocked this port at our firewall now in case...

  49. The end is near. by iamdrscience · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    The end is near! Repent internet sinners, for tomorrow will be the second coming of eJesus and we will all be judged.

    1. Re:The end is near. by bmf033069 · · Score: 1

      And ye must account for all sites visited in thy browser history, for surely God knows all and does not clear cache...

    2. Re:The end is near. by iamdrscience · · Score: 1

      Verily.

  50. Attention Seeker by grunt107 · · Score: 1

    Is it just coincendence that 2 Russian airliners were downed yesterday and then this 'attackapalooza' is announced by a Russian agency?

    Since there are elections in Russia upcoming for the Chechnya region (politician was assassinated there), if the attack is related to that it would make more sense for iNet attacks to hit Russian webistes.

  51. Totally unrelated by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just a stupid script kiddie ssh attack which won't work on 99.9999999999999999% of systems, but makes the kiddies feel l33t.

  52. What's the big deal? by teamhasnoi · · Score: 2, Funny
    Bah! I finished the Internet months ago. In fact, you can pick up a used copy in your local shop.

    Spoiler Alert: It starts off pretty cool, but really drags in the middle. The ending is horrible.

    1. Re:What's the big deal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It starts off pretty cool, then really drags in the middle. The ending is horrible

      That's not the Internet. That's Life.

    2. Re:What's the big deal? by Idarubicin · · Score: 1

      For anyone who was wondering, here's the Last Page of the Internet.

      --
      ~Idarubicin
    3. Re:What's the big deal? by njfuzzy · · Score: 1

      "I beat the Internet. The end guy is hard."

      --
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      The Deathlings (comic) - http://thedeathlings.com
  53. Damn! by pandrijeczko · · Score: 3, Funny

    I guess I'll have to stay up extra late tonight then in order to finish downloading the entire Internet onto my laptop...

    --
    Gentoo Linux - another day, another USE flag.
    1. Re:Damn! by shallow+monkey · · Score: 1

      I almost convinced my 13 y. o. son that I had downloaded the entire Internet to my laptop last night (as I was using a localhost web-proxy.) Then I explained what a web-proxy was ....

    2. Re:Damn! by DA_MAN_DA_MYTH · · Score: 1

      Don't worry some pointy haired boss out there has a hard copy of the Internet sitting on his desk.

      --
      "It takes many nails to build a crib, but one screw to fill it."
  54. Misquote/hype by Handyman · · Score: 5, Informative

    Kaspersky labs says they were misquoted. Quoting from a mail from kaspersky labs themselves (as found in a repost on the NTBugtraq mailing list):

    A handful of sites are stating that Eugene Kaspersky, founder of Kaspersky Labs, believes that tomorrow will bring a massive terrorist attack on the Internet. This is being quoted in a range of ways, ranging from factual reporting to citing the story as an example of cyber hysteria.

    However, Kaspersky is not predicting the end of the Internet tomorrow - or even in the near future. The story stems from brief comments made yesterday at a press conference which was dedicated to cybercrime and the problems of spam.

    At this press conference, Kaspersky commented that the possibility of terrorists using the Internet as a tool to attack certain countries as a reality. As an example, he cited the fact that a number of Arabic and Hebrew language websites contained an announcement of an 'electronic jihad' against Israel, to start on 26th August 2004.

    In an interview today, Kaspersky stressed that such information was not necessarily trustworthy. 'We don't know who is behind these statements.' He went on to clarify: 'It's not the first time the term 'electronic jihad' has been used. We've seen this before, with the focus being on sending racist emails, and defacing and hacking Israeli web sites. But it is the first time I have seen sites encouraging the use of Internet attacks against one country as a form of terrorism.'

    'As we've already stated many times in the past, it would be easy enough to use a network of infected computers to launch such an attack. We saw the impact that Sasser, Mydoom and Slammer had, on the Internet, businesses and organisations. Just imagine if such an attack was directed at one country or one critical point in the infrastructure of the Internet. Computers are a tool - and just like any tool, they can be used or misused.'

    Kaspersky emphasised that the likelihood of a massive attack directed against Israeli institutions tomorrow is low. However, he believes that Pandora's box has now been opened. Hackers and virus writers can be motivated by a range of factors: money, curiosity, or political
    conviction. But whatever their motivation, the insecure nature of the Internet and weak security precautions offer a wealth of opportunities. 'Maybe it won't be tomorrow, or the day after tomorrow - but sooner or later, terrorists will be using the Internet as another weapon in their arsenal.'

    1. Re:Misquote/hype by Anne+Thwacks · · Score: 1

      This was recently confirmed by Chicken Little of the ChuckleVision Institute.

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      Sent from my ASR33 using ASCII
  55. Damnit! by SirStanley · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Why couldn't he have said this months ago? I could have gotten another cushy job protecting computers against doomsday. Much like i did during the whole y2k fiasco.
    Mhhh... Employment by scaring the shit out of other people..... tasty

    --
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  56. "Cyberterror": What a stupid term. by pclminion · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Equating the temporary shutdown of a portion of the Internet with terrorism should be extremely insulting to all people who have been touched by terrorist attacks.

    While it could certainly cause serious damage to businesses who depend on the Internet, it in no way evokes terror in people's hearts and minds. The purpose of terrorism is to coerce through terror of random violence. I'm sorry, but the threat of having a portion of the Internet shut down does not fill my heart with terror.

    It's a slap in the face to all those who have died on September 11 and all other victims of terrorism around the world.

    Not to mention the extremely disturbing precedent being set here. The word "terrorist" is becoming similar to how the word "communist" was used during the Cold War. I.e., a term you apply to anybody you don't like in order to dehumanize them. I find it sickening.

    1. Re:"Cyberterror": What a stupid term. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      September 11th was terrorism, as was Vietnam and the Cold War (it provoked enough terror, didn't it?).

      Vietnam and the Cold War in general certainly evoked terror in millions of people, but it doesn't fit the strict definition of "terrorism," which is the use of violence to coerce political change. Note, "political change." Vietnam was not about scaring the Viet Cong into changing their own government. It was about the total obliteration of that government.

      Anyway, why do you insist on politicizing something that clearly wasn't meant to be a political statement?

    2. Re:"Cyberterror": What a stupid term. by jb.hl.com · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Oh, so it's valid now to call George W. Bush a "King?"

      It's called "irony" moron, look it up.

      Or to say he invoks September 11th at every opportunity?

      Yes, because he does. He likes to paint himself as a "war prezzident" who can prevent the next major terrorist attack which will never come.

      In reality, the man is smacked up to the tits on a cocktail of drugs and is exremely paranoid and incapable of handling a major disaster.

      Or to justify a rich, fanatic like Usama bin Laden's use of commerical jet-liners as a weapon?

      I don't justify it, and think it was wrong to kill all those people, as I thought it was wrong to kill all those people in Iraq and Afghanistan. However, I just think that the US shouldn't be getting uppity just because it got its own back, and shouldn't overreact to things like that. Bush speaks of standing up to the terrorists, but if he did that then life would have continued as normal and we wouldn't be suffering all the Orwellian bullshit like USA PATRIOT, delivering a solid "fuck you, we aren't scared" to the terrorists. Maybe the US could reevaluate its position in the world, and maybe not be so cutthroat about its economic interests, oil and the Middle East (and I know all three are intertwined).

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    3. Re:"Cyberterror": What a stupid term. by naesung · · Score: 1

      While I most definitely agree about avoiding the equation of hackery with terrorism, maybe this just points to a disturbing trend. I mean, how does the internet going down for a time get people this riled up? Sure, we wouldn't be able to get our slashdot dose on the hour (half hour?), but it's not like, having collapsed the pillars of the mystical internet, it wouldn't be up and running for most people within 24 hours. All purely hypothetical, of course.

    4. Re:"Cyberterror": What a stupid term. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The US army definition of terrorism (which almost everybody, even those that accuse the US of terrorism, accept) is "The calculated use of violence or threat of violence to attain goals that are political, religious or ideological in nature...through intimidation, coercion or instilling fear." (From US Army Operational Concept for Terrorism Counterraction). Does that definition apply to the current topic? I'll let you debate on that...

    5. Re:"Cyberterror": What a stupid term. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, we dehumanize the poor pathetic souls in Iraq who like to chop off innocent civilian's heads by calling them "terrorists." Very unfortunate that such a term is used for such neglected people. I suggest we instead call them "peace-inducers." What do you think?

    6. Re:"Cyberterror": What a stupid term. by Blahbbs · · Score: 1
      Not to mention the extremely disturbing precedent being set here. The word "terrorist" is becoming similar to how the word "communist" was used during the Cold War. I.e., a term you apply to anybody you don't like in order to dehumanize them. I find it sickening.

      Oh, you mean like the words "liberal" or "conservative"?

    7. Re:"Cyberterror": What a stupid term. by dave420 · · Score: 1

      Just like how the term "hero" is attributed to almost everyone on US TV who's done anything good, or had anything bad happen to them. It diminishes the term when actually needed. If everyone was a hero or a terrorist, what do we call real heroes or real terrorists? Just like in Iraq - all those "terrorists" fighting Americans. They're rebels, not terrorists.

    8. Re:"Cyberterror": What a stupid term. by Tony · · Score: 1

      What do you think?

      I think you miss the point.

      The original poster was referring to the tendency in our current society to call pretty much everyone who isn't a sheep a "terrorist."

      Doesn't it disturb you that a bunch of script kiddies who may or may not shut down portions of the net are classified with the same label as the folks who chop off heads?

      --
      Microsoft is to software what Budweiser is to beer.
    9. Re:"Cyberterror": What a stupid term. by pclminion · · Score: 1
      Yes, we dehumanize the poor pathetic souls in Iraq who like to chop off innocent civilian's heads by calling them "terrorists."

      You are a simpleton, and you make my point for me.

      Yes, there are those in Iraq who can rightfully be called terrorists. By applying the term "terrorist" to people who do nothing more than vandalize the Internet, however, the term loses all meaning.

      I, for one, would like to reserve the term "terrorist" for those usages where it is truly appropriate instead of belittling it into meaninglessness. And yes, the Iraqi beheaders are most definitely terrorists.

      Now, get thee back to kindergarten.

    10. Re:"Cyberterror": What a stupid term. by dave420 · · Score: 1
      Good for you for actually saying that. I believe it 100%, and I'm not surprised you were modded so poorly. It's something most Americans don't want to accept - the US did some horrible things in the past, which are now catching up. I know all Americans are indoctrinated in the "USA==GOOD" philosophy from a very early age, which explains the sheer pain lots of staunchly-patriotic Americans have when facing up to such truths. They'll get it soon enough.

      Bush is worse than Osama Bin Laden. Bush has killed over 10,000 innocent Iraqis since the invasion. Now, he's busy branding the rebels as terrorists and saying how they hate freedom and democracy. No, they just hate America wading in, killing everyone, fucking everything up, and leaving without making things better. Guess what - the next Osama Bin Laden will be Iraqi, and he's probably on the side of the Americans as we speak. History repeats itself, folks.

      If the US wants to stop being hated around the world, it should start playing by the rules it dictates to others. Play the game everyone else plays it, and respect nations as it'd like to be respected. You can't kill ideas with bombs. Make the terrorists' manifestos obsolete and incorrect, and they'll take care of themselves, no innocents involved, and no awkward press conferences after the lastest orphanage bombing.

    11. Re:"Cyberterror": What a stupid term. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >>jb.hl.com expects to be called Troll/Flamebait for expressing a valid, but unpopular, opinion.

      someone is spending a little too much time on Michael Moore's website....

    12. Re:"Cyberterror": What a stupid term. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Which part of Germany are you from ...France, Poland...oh, no, wait, Europe is still comprised of independent Nations...why is that, wouldn't have anything to do with the thousands of AMERICANs that gave their life to save your sorry ass, would it...

      Fuck-off
      --an American

    13. Re:"Cyberterror": What a stupid term. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      While it could certainly cause serious damage to businesses who depend on the Internet, it in no way evokes terror in people's hearts and minds.

      It causes terror in my heart. I'm terrified that someone will discover all my pr0n.

    14. Re:"Cyberterror": What a stupid term. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I.e., a term you apply to anybody you don't like in order to dehumanize them

      You mean kind of like how republicans use the word "anti-american"?

    15. Re:"Cyberterror": What a stupid term. by HebrewToYou · · Score: 0, Flamebait
      Dave420,

      You're a fuckin' idiot.

      Bush is an elected representative of the people of the United States of America. Usama bin Laden is a wealthy fanatic who, as the son of Saudi construction works (Bin Laden Brothers), felt that he was being repressed by past American governments. Whether or not this is the case, he is a murderer who destroyed the lives of innocent people on 9/11/01. You can spin it however you like -- US being hated around the world, playing by the rules, America wading in killing everyone -- that's all goddamn bullshit.

      Start recognizing that there is a culture of hate due to ignorance and miseducation. Modern Arabs have been treated poorly by their OWN rulers, not ours.

      People like you are the ones who blame Israel and the U.S. for the plight of the Palestinians, not their Arab brothers and Yasser Arafat.

      Go read a fucking book, you twit.

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    16. Re:"Cyberterror": What a stupid term. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I love it when people say this.

      If the Europeans are so worthless, why did so many Americans believe it was worth it to sacrifice their lives for them?

      Sounds like all those Americans who went to war were pretty fucking stupid, no? Throwing their lives away for useless Europeans...

    17. Re:"Cyberterror": What a stupid term. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe it's because Americans don't believe homicidal maniacs should be allowed to force a totalitarian government on people, regardless of the worth of the people being conquered...

      and we were asked...but then I guess we could've waited for the French to handle it....

    18. Re:"Cyberterror": What a stupid term. by indigeek · · Score: 1

      Equating the temporary shutdown of a portion of the Internet with terrorism should be extremely insulting to all people who have been touched by terrorist attacks.
      Well, internet being down for a few days would indirectly kill more people than 911 ever did. There are a lot of systems which rely on the internet to work nowadays. Power networks, medical equipment etc. are monitored through the net. They might have a backup but I am sure atleast a few people would miss it , leading to some damage.
      Sometime ago there was a story on /. which said that a few mainframes on a powerstation caused a shutdown because NT machines on the same network got viruses and clogged the network up. If it happens to the whole net, I am sure there would be some area in the world where a power shutdown would be catastrophic.

    19. Re:"Cyberterror": What a stupid term. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Amen.

    20. Re:"Cyberterror": What a stupid term. by jb.hl.com · · Score: 1

      Heh, I just got an absolutely hilarious comment on my blog from a right wing american nutter, you have to see it, it's brilliant, I just had a great time ripping the shit out of it :D

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    21. Re:"Cyberterror": What a stupid term. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Put a paragraph break (or at least a new line) between the quoted section and your original shit, thusly:
      >>jb.hl.com expects to be called Troll/Flamebait for expressing a valid, but unpopular, opinion.

      Oh, so it's valid now to call George W. Bush a "King?"

      Now fuck off until you can post properly, you big-nosed, pork-dodging chopcock.
    22. Re:"Cyberterror": What a stupid term. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I just checked your site. Pretty spiffy. I bet you haven't been within 2 thoughts of reality in years, have you? Why don't you go find a nice little corner to play in, stay away from sharp object and leave the adult discussions to the big people...

      BTW - Been to your country (and several others over there) and have to say, yours would be at the bottom of the list to return too...

    23. Re:"Cyberterror": What a stupid term. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Sure, we wouldn't be able to get our slashdot dose on the hour (half hour?),

      Yeah, last time the Towel Heads brought down Slashdot, it was up and running again within two hours, i.e. much faster than CNN.

      but it's not like, having collapsed the pillars of the mystical internet, it wouldn't be up and running for most people within 24 hours.

      Well, the pillars that the ragheads collapsed in order to slashdot Slashdot weren't actually the pillars of the Internet [except for a couple of unfortunate Verizon customers whose switching center got buried under the rubble]...

    24. Re:"Cyberterror": What a stupid term. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah yes. You save people and then piss on them. How fucking valiant of you. Why, I see the finger of God reaching down to pluck you up into Heaven at this very moment.

    25. Re:"Cyberterror": What a stupid term. by HebrewToYou · · Score: 1
      >>Now fuck off until you can post properly, you big-nosed, pork-dodging chopcock.

      You idiot.
      There is a difference between a Jew and a Hebrew.
      A Jew is one who follows the teachings of the torah.
      A Hebrew is one who was born to parents of origin relating to the Semitic tribes descending from Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

      I am a Hebrew. I eat pork, have a very appropriately-sized nose, and do not believe in God. You, on the other hand, are a racist, bigoted asshole who needs to resort to epithets to win an argument.

      So suck my balls, Anonymous Coward.

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    26. Re:"Cyberterror": What a stupid term. by Tony-A · · Score: 1

      tendency in our current society to call pretty much everyone who isn't a sheep a "terrorist."

      The thing is that we as a society need people who are "different". Even if they were mostly wrong, we need them. Otherwise we get too inbred, like people who keep marrying first cousins.

    27. Re:"Cyberterror": What a stupid term. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      fuck-you...you are obviously someone who knows nothing about history...I wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire...

    28. Re:"Cyberterror": What a stupid term. by dave420 · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Oh where to begin...

      1. Lots and lots of highly intelligent, highly read people around the world agree that Bush wasn't elected. He represents only the white, Christian Americans (evidently, from his policies and how often he spouts on about God). He is where he is because of his father, and has no right being President. Bin Laden is a wealthy finatic, true, but then so is Bush.

      Bin Laden does feel repressed by past American governments, and the current one. He's not fighting George Bush, but the American system that allows a president to act like such an ass as The Bushes have been. First, it was the $50bn dollar cost to Saudi Arabia for their defense in Gulf War 1 (which led to the Americans staying there indefinitely, near Mecca, which is the holiest of sites to muslims the world over), which pissed a LOT of muslims off (which the US was expecting, and didn't care about).

      Anyway, back on to the present. GWBush has killed tens of thousands of innocent people in Iraq. No-one had to go to war over there. The "coallition of the willing" invaded because they wanted to, and because of that greed, nearly 1,000 Americans have died, and all those civilians. For what? The country is even more dangerous than it was under Saddam, there are terrorist cells training in Iraq that were absolutely detested by Saddam and his Baathist regime.

      Bush changed his reasoning for the conflict nearly every two weeks (yet, he's not a "flip-flopper") - first, WMD. Then, the capacity to produce WMDs (which includes any high-school chemistry lab, btw), then a regime change for "regional stability" (which is funny, as Iraq was one of the more stable, least aggressive states in the area). His reasoning doesn't stand up to scrutiny ONE BIT. It's not laughable, it's absolutely pathetic. I'm kind of embarassed anyone actually fell for it. It doesn't take Perry Mason to realise Bush is pulling this entire conflict (and the rest of his 4 years) out of his ass as he goes. He's scared to admit he's made a mistake, and he relies on the "like me or hate america" angle he can use against the more staunchly-patriotic American people.

      I'm not denying OBL killed nearly 3,000 people on 9/11. I'm saying Bush has killed nearly 3 times as many in the last 18 months. How can you stand up for Bush?

      I do recognise there is a culture of hate. I also recognise who's perpetrating it. It's not the Arabs. They've been mistreated more by America than their own leaders. The Shia uprising after Gulf War 1? Where Bush Sr. encouraged them to rise up, then did nothing to help them. Great. Way to screw over a people.

      And, now that you mention it, I do think giving $1bn a year to Israel to buy bulldozers to run over kids is hurting the peace process. For one nation to stubbornly pour so much money into a troubled region because of traditional ties is just ridiculous. Israel constructing an illegal wall down the country is also not helping one bit, either. Remember Berlin? Remember how happy everyone was when the wall came down? When will anyone learn.

      I've probably read more books than you, seeing as TV Guide doesn't count.

    29. Re:"Cyberterror": What a stupid term. by dave420 · · Score: 1
      You mean all those American lives when America eventually joined the war, after spending 3 or 4 years raising money for the Nazis (thank George Bush's grandpappy for that one)? Oh yeah - stellar stuff.

      You seem to have a distorted historical knowledge. The US contribution to WW2 was more financially important than anything else. The men weren't that important, but the weaponry and ships were. The US didn't even give them to the allies who needed them, but sold them. That's nice. A country, so up the ass of democracy and freedom, waits years before entering a huge war filled with genocidal maniacs, then SELLS the weapons to the good guys. If you want to be proud of that, please. Be my guest.

  57. Slashdot Jihad? by izakage · · Score: 0

    "Now, if we can get a story up on Slashdot with _every_ single URL we can find...

  58. School started again.... by menscher · · Score: 2, Interesting
    and all the undergrad kiddies brought their infected computers from home. University network is trashed by all the worms.

    Not sure how this relates to any jihad, though.

    When's the Republican National Convention? Maybe this is somehow related to CrimethInc's talk?

  59. Of Course They Did by VonGuard · · Score: 5, Funny

    Doesn't XP Service Pack 2 finally make its way onto Windows Auto-update tomorrow?

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    1. Re:Of Course They Did by tokul · · Score: 1
      Doesn't XP Service Pack 2 finally make its way onto Windows Auto-update tomorrow?
      SP2 made its way to windows update last friday. On 2004-08-20 Windows XP Home machines that connected to windowsupdate.microsoft.com were redirected to v5.windowsupdate.microsoft.com. Automatic update wanted to download SP2.
    2. Re:Of Course They Did by caluml · · Score: 1
      Doesn't XP Service Pack 2 finally make its way onto Windows Auto-update tomorrow?

      That's it!
      All those critical routers, firewalls, DNS servers, and web servers that are running XP - the internet will go to pot!

    3. Re:Of Course They Did by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That is exactly what I thought, too, that the article would be about upon first glimpse of the headline.

    4. Re:Of Course They Did by pommiekiwifruit · · Score: 1

      Yes but it will take at least a month (probably more) of downloading in the background before it is ready to be installed, with more than 200Mbytes at lets say 5Mbytes per connected day.

  60. Maybe.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Maybe you could just leave your computer off tommorow : )

  61. Hmmm by lasmith05 · · Score: 1

    Just make sure you have an ample supply of pr0n available offline.

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  62. ob joke by 5m477m4n · · Score: 0

    Someone has to say it...

    In soviet Russia, the internet melts you down.

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  63. Re:I have a bridge I want to sell you... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Well, i was (sort of) with you until you decided to sign off with the incredibly thoughtful and insightful "Fucking Lame...". After that, i just decided you were an idiot and flushed anything that might've been useful in your post from my brain.

  64. Bring it on... by josea · · Score: 0

    As long as it means I dont have to look at this gawdawful light grey on white color scheme again...

    Joe

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  65. Shenanigans... by mzwaterski · · Score: 0

    and not just whee little shenanigans; evil shenanigans

  66. Sensational by MolarMass · · Score: 1

    Hmm...Sensationalized Internet Doomsday plot. If democrats were fingered as the cause, I'd be sure it was a Fox News ploy to assist the Bush administration.

  67. Afraid - very afraid by mooboy · · Score: 1
    "And in July, DoubleClick Inc.'s DNS (domain name system) was attacked and unable to serve ads for a similar time frame."
    Citizens will be running in the streets in panic if they're pop-up ads stop working - Oh the humanity!!

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  68. Fox News by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Remember people, this is Fox News. I'd trust this report slightly less than a report from Al Jazeera that the Internet was going to be shut down by imperialist Yankee swine...

    1. Re:Fox News by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fox News may be right-biased, but since when are they any worse in accuracy as compared to other outlets?

    2. Re:Fox News by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They are not right-biased, they are a Bush administration mouthpiece. Right-biased is CNN and NBC, which report real news with a conservative slant (and occasionally, conservatives disagree with the Bush administration *shock*). Fox news is just the US version of Pravda. It's a useful news outlet because you can always know what the Bush administration's position is on certain matters that they don't openly discuss, but it's not very useful beyond that.

  69. No imagination by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Consider an attack that specificaly caused medical equipment to malfunction. This could cause people in hospitols around the world to die. That might count as terrorism. Hope the hospitols get WinXP SP2 installed soon!

  70. Now they've done it by kg_o.O · · Score: 1

    Looks like those terrorists guys finaly invented something better than this
    Now we all get a 'no slacking' day, whoopiee!

  71. ooooo, an expert by obli · · Score: 0

    Out of all experts in all fields, I think the computer experts are the ones with the least knowledge, he's probebly just playing Nostradamus to get attention, and if there is no attack, he'll claim that his announcement made us aware of the attack to we would prevent it.

  72. Digital Pearl Harbor!!! by rayd75 · · Score: 1


    Or would that be Perl harbor? Seriously though, I am about sick of the Pearl Harbor references. I suspect that such a widespread attack will take place sooner or later but I doubt that it will be terrorists at fault... More likely some antisocial 17yr old script kiddie.

  73. Tomorrow? by elwoodblues16 · · Score: 1

    Don't know about tomorrow, but I'm on SBC, and it's been playing silly buggers all damned morning.

  74. Let's slashdot his site by eclectus · · Score: 1

    and prove that he's off by a day.

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  75. Internet Meltdown by bsd4me · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's what happens if you put your swimsuit in the dryer for too long on high heat.

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  76. Internettrafficreport.com by GillBates0 · · Score: 5, Informative
    www.internettrafficreport.com is a one of the sites which gives a nice overview of the network throughputs across the globe (average response time, packetloss, etc).

    At about 12:15pm on the US east coast, it should be "tomorrow" soon in the Eastern continents. I'll keep a watch on the stats and flip the switch if necessary :P

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    1. Re:Internettrafficreport.com by AbbyNormal · · Score: 1

      If anyone is interested, you can also use this
      client to monitor the traffic live. Found it off of the ITR page.

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    2. Re:Internettrafficreport.com by Tellarin · · Score: 1


      How does this site claim to monitor network throughputs across the globe if for South America it makes no measure for Brazil?

      (For those who don't know, Brazil is South American biggest country and has the biggest Internet users population).

  77. Re:At moments like these... (MREs) by ishmalius · · Score: 2, Funny

    If the Internet survives, then you can use the freeze-dried strawberries for dacquiris and margaritas.

  78. Uh oh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I better start downloading the internet!

  79. w00t! by jdwest · · Score: 1

    OMG111 Some1's gonna break teh intarweb1?1

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  80. Chicken Little Says by Alien54 · · Score: 3, Funny
    Run for your lifes! Run for your lifes!

    The sky, she is falling! The sky, she is falling!

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    1. Re:Chicken Little Says by JWW · · Score: 1

      I'm sorry, that sounds more like Speedy Gonzales than chicken little. ;-)

    2. Re:Chicken Little Says by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      sheesh. learn to spell, it's LIVES, not lifes. You know, plural? Slashdot would do well with a built-in spellcheck on comments.

    3. Re:Chicken Little Says by Alien54 · · Score: 1
      sheesh. learn to spell, it's LIVES, not lifes. You know, plural?

      Actually, it's satire of a vaguely eastern European accent. complete with mistakes in english grammar.

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    4. Re:Chicken Little Says by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean the Red-ski, she is failing! The Red-Ski is failing

    5. Re:Chicken Little Says by Joseph_Daniel_Zukige · · Score: 1

      Run for your files!
      Run for your files!

    6. Re:Chicken Little Says by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you do realize you are on slashdot, no? it's more like Run for your files! Run for your files!. Skynet is failing! duh. :-D

  81. Its authoritive by l4m3z0r · · Score: 2, Insightful
    I can authoritively say that an attack will come on the internet in the next 24 hours. But I am unsure how successful it will be. Aleksandr Gostev seems to think it will be highly successful but without a doubt attacks will come in the next 24 hours.

    How many 'attacks'(defaced websites, DOS attacks, etc) are attempted daily, regardless of what day of the year it is? 100, 1000,10000, more? Gostev is just making a guess at the success of tomorrows attacks. Cyber terrorists indeed, the day i become afraid and terrorized because of a DOS attack or a webpage getting defaced is the day I deserve to be beaten to a bloody pulp.

  82. how can I check? by 5m477m4n · · Score: 0

    How will I get to Netcraft to check if the internet is down?

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  83. STORES RUN OUT OF TIN FOIL RIOTING ENSUES by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    im using tin cans and ducktape now, run for your lives !!

  84. I better take cover then... by HitByASquirrel · · Score: 1

    The russian continued to warn that "anyone who does not want their webserver annihilated tomorrow should accordingly shut down said server or disconnect it from the net..."

  85. LAST POST! by JanJoost · · Score: 2, Funny

    Do we get last post pissing contests now as well? :)

  86. GWB's next speech: by Sandman69 · · Score: 0

    We now have added two new members to the axis of evil: known as '1' and '0'. These numbers, also known as 'bits' have caused a great tragedy in our nation, preventing myself and other fellow americans from accessing our favourite porn sites. The perpetrators will not go unpunished, and we will not stop until every last 'bit' has been brought to justice.

  87. Well it's about time, dammit! by Khan · · Score: 1

    I can't wait! Someone tell whomever is involved to make sure that all EMAIL is knocked off-line! That way, I can go home and not have to listen to all of the fucking whining about SPAM. At least if email is down, I have someone to blame :-)

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  88. i'll take beltway spin for $600, alex by ed.han · · Score: 2, Insightful

    i see no reason why that's necessarily an either/or proposition, bladernr. after all, asking candidates 3 months before the election to opine on something is more or less begging for spin, isn't it?

    ed

  89. Which came first, the chicken or the egg?... by Durzel · · Score: 1

    ..or more accurately - the warning or the threat?

    It strikes me that reporting the threat of a "Internet meltdown", especially in such sensationalist terms, would only ensure that it happens rather than mitigate the results (which, like DDoS attacks, are near impossible to prevent).

    Especially as its being billed as a terrorist attack. Ordinarily the media are left to make all kinds of outlandish terrorist links after the event, but to suggest it in advance seems to me to be an ideal way for anyone anti-Government to orchestrate attacks on this day purely to get greater-than-normal coverage. Newsflash: Not all scriptkiddies are by definition terrorists.

    Advisories like these, coupled with the implied terrorist connections (which is FOTY now in media circles) and the fact that no one can practically do anything about things like this if they do in fact happen seems to be helping the terrorists by giving them ideas, than helping us, the citizens, who are constantly living in fear of Al Qaeda hacking our hard drives.

  90. Just stupid... by HuckleCom · · Score: 0

    I wouldn't call downing political websites "Crippled"...

    Sounds more like our russian friend is planning this DoS to get publicity...

  91. Broken Interweb by nathanblazted · · Score: 1

    A large chunk of the Internet will be shut down tomorrow by cyber terrorists

    Shweet

  92. Russian maths... by Skiron · · Score: 1

    ... all he has done is run an alogrithm that predicts 3,000,000,000 WinXP machines are all due BSOD at the same time, as opposed to the normal 'out of sync' crashes.

    I mean, like the Planets, they all have to line up sometime.

  93. I find this article on the website more intresting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.mosnews.com/feature/2004/08/23/bubbleba ba.shtml

  94. XP Service Pack 2 release? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I gather microsoft is releasing Windows XP Service Pack 2 tomorrow.

  95. My response to the 5|R1PT |1DD33Z by jb.hl.com · · Score: 1

    Bring it on.

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  96. Quick! must protect! by AceJohnny · · Score: 1

    Oh no! I'd better turn off my company's internet infrastructure to protect it against malicious usage!

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  97. Eh - SP2 anyone? by Illissius · · Score: 1

    Doesn't SP2 become available for automatic download tomorrow? Half the world downloading 120MB simultaneously will more than account for an 'internet meltdown' in and of itself, no need for teh cyberterrorists.

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    1. Re:Eh - SP2 anyone? by gregarican · · Score: 1

      Good point. That and the fact that there is a newly discovered 'Drag and Drop' exploit in XP SP2 where using an Internet Explorer's scroll bar is enough to drop a binary executable in your Windows Startup folder. Perhaps there's more underground exploits that meets the eye. I just gathered details about the 'Drag and Drop' deal from Secunia.

  98. vacation time!!! by garignak · · Score: 2, Funny

    Sounds like I should put in for a vacation day, before the boss sees this. ;)

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  99. Akamai, not Google..... by otisg · · Score: 2, Informative

    ... will be the ones who either save the day, or let us all go down. Remember the similar recent incident? Akamai was in the center of it. If Akamai goes down, forget Google.

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    1. Re:Akamai, not Google..... by byolinux · · Score: 3, Funny

      I have developed a program to download Google to my hard disk. I have two (yes, two) ISDN lines, so I'll be fine to support the web for a week or so.

    2. Re:Akamai, not Google..... by PingPongBoy · · Score: 1

      Who's Akamai? The one wearing the cape and possessing bulging muscles not to mention alien superpowers?

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    3. Re:Akamai, not Google..... by s7uar7 · · Score: 0

      No mod points, but that is the funniest post I've read on here this year.

  100. oh GREAT by YankeeInExile · · Score: 1

    Now The Internet is going to melt down today as tens of thousands of slashgeeks stock up on microwave burritos and net-pr0n and wait out the upcoming apocolypse.

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  101. All this means guys... by jmcmunn · · Score: 1


    All it means is that there are going to be several good articles on Slashdot tomorrow that we are all going to read. Thus 'large portions of the internet will be down' tomorrow.

    I'm surprised no one has made the connection!

  102. you also forgot by xsupergr0verx · · Score: 2, Funny

    slash-had - A holy war in a painful dark khaki color scheme.

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  103. Microsoft by d_p · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Maybe M$ releasing SP2 to Windows Update tomorrow.

  104. But... by Outsider_99 · · Score: 1

    Every time something like this happens, theres always the argument that the internet was built to survive attacks. If something does happen, it will be interesting to see what happens, and how things will/wont work.

    1. Re:But... by PingPongBoy · · Score: 1

      Don't some people have better things to do than to attack the Internet? Spam, DOS, trojans, exploits. Enough is enough. No one is b

      The Internet has survived disasters and outages.

      Sometimes one has to wonder - not what I would do without the Internet but whether I appreciate the Internet enough when it's functioning.

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  105. Ummm . . . by TransmissionX · · Score: 1

    . . . don't terrorists need the internet to communicate too?

  106. Guerilla Marketing by Kapersky Labs by cbelt3 · · Score: 5, Interesting
    According to Mosnews:

    "The executive director of Dr.Web antivirus lab, Mikhail Bychinsky, quoted by Lenta.ru web agency said he had not heard of such an attack. "I do not believe in mass internet attacks because the main servers are defended, and Kaspersky Labs has been foretelling doomsday for a long time.""

    Sounds like Kaspersky Labs is doing a bit of guerilla marketing on their own. "Subscribe to our pay sites and see when this 'attack' will take place !"

    I wonder if a 21st century chicken little would have sold newsletters instead of running around the barnyard.

    1. Re:Guerilla Marketing by Kapersky Labs by turgid · · Score: 1

      There was me thinking that the Internet was designed from the outset to be resilient to attacks. Excuse me while I LART myself...

    2. Re:Guerilla Marketing by Kapersky Labs by orb_fan · · Score: 0

      From the Kapersky Labs web site...

      "Download this App to monitor for DDOS attachs."

    3. Re:Guerilla Marketing by Kapersky Labs by cbelt3 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Excuse me, I spilled coffee all over myself laughing. Hmm- read our web site, download our trojan, which will ENABLE US to conduct our 'predicted attack' !!!

    4. Re:Guerilla Marketing by Kapersky Labs by momerath2003 · · Score: 1
      There was me thinking that the Internet was designed from the outset to be resilient to attacks


      I believe ARPAnet was designed to withstand physical attacks. If a bomb takes out a phone switching station, all the lines go down because the damage can't be bypassed. I doubt they were thinking about cyberattacks and virtual resilience.
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  107. Sonuds like the perfect occasion... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    ...to do a badly needed internet cleanup.

  108. Plan B by wackysootroom · · Score: 1

    If it's true, this will be a good opportunity for me to unplug. I'll Grab a nice book and catch up on some offline reading.

  109. Slashdot is contributing... by telemonster · · Score: 1

    Slashdot is contributing to the sensationalism!

    At worst someone will flood Disney.com and CNN.com off the net for a few hours. Big whoop.

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    Southeastern Virginia REPRESENT!
  110. Hedging our bets and buying canned beans ? by ContemporaryInsanity · · Score: 1

    'The story first appeared on the Lenta.ru web agency and might be as valid as this this one, however we are hedging our bets and buying in extra cans of beans.'

    Why beans, why not spam ?

  111. I don't know what's going on... by arootbeer · · Score: 1

    it's like the whole internet is /.ed

  112. WIll it also be toasty like a Quizno's sub? by HarveyBirdman · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Then how bad can it be?

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  113. Bush/Gates conspiracy by IGnatius+T+Foobar · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This is just another PNAC conspiracy. Every time Bush and/or Ashcroft scares people into thinking terrorists are about to wreak havoc, the good little sheeple promptly bend over and accept new legislation that further erodes civil liberties. Bill Gates being the "generous" GOP donor that he is, has now joined in. If they scare enough people into thinking that cyberterrorism is about to destroy the Internet, the good little sheeple will promptly bend over and accept Microsoft(tm) Patented(tm) DRM(tm) across everything.

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    1. Re:Bush/Gates conspiracy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      This is just another PNAC conspiracy. Every time Bush and/or Ashcroft scares people into thinking terrorists are about to wreak havoc...

      Wait a minute... which part is the conspiracy again? The Internet cheese-melt or whatever, or your black-helicopterisms?

    2. Re:Bush/Gates conspiracy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you mean like the truckloads of money MS gates and the rest give to the democrats.

    3. Re:Bush/Gates conspiracy by The+Ape+With+No+Name · · Score: 1

      M$ gives both ways, but the GOP gets the lion share. It's called nobbling the bets.

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      Comparing it to Windows will be a moot point, since El Dorado is going to have a 40% larger code base than XP.
  114. Simple ... by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Funny
    If a fire fighter fights fires, and a crime fighter fights crime, what is a "freedom fighter"?


    Donald Rumsfeld seems to fit into your progression.

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    Lost at C:>. Found at C.
    1. Re:Simple ... by israfil_kamana · · Score: 1

      There's that darned rim-shot feature-request again...

      i.

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    2. Re:Simple ... by szelus · · Score: 1

      So, by Reagan's definition, he is also a terrorist!
      QED

  115. Brilliant deduction! by SeaDour · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    A *RUSSIAN* scientist spreading homeland security propaganda for an *AMERICAN* political party. You really put a lot of thought into that assertion, didn't you?

    1. Re:Brilliant deduction! by jusdisgi · · Score: 5, Funny

      A *RUSSIAN* scientist spreading homeland security propaganda for an *AMERICAN* political party. You really put a lot of thought into that assertion, didn't you?

      One word: outsourcing.

      --
      Given a choice between free speech and free beer, most people will take the beer.
    2. Re:Brilliant deduction! by Brandybuck · · Score: 1

      But be honest, you weren't really surprised that someone asserted it? If the internet really does meltdown tomorrow, I predict that Byrd will accuse Bush of this very thing on the senate floor, and no one will laugh at the absurdity of it.

      --
      Don't blame me, I didn't vote for either of them!
  116. Old McDonald had a holy war... by pimpinmonk · · Score: 1

    e, i, e, i... oh no!

    Sorry, it was the first thing to pop into my head.

  117. But.. it could be a "good thing" by AnswerIs42 · · Score: 2, Funny

    I mean.. if /. gets taken down by this... I can get more work done finally! ;)

  118. Hey this sounds familiar... by orpx · · Score: 1

    Didn't the US just recently move all Fedral Reserves transactions over the Internet?

    Yes yes, it all seems to be falling into place now...

    http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=118058&cid= 9975693

    It's only common sense they would have a backup link, but WHO KNOW'S?

  119. If nothing happens tomorrow... by pajama · · Score: 2, Funny

    You could always lock yourself out.

  120. OMFG!!!!! by nexus987 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    From the eweek article: "A coordinated online strike against Internet servers by terrorists, dubbed "elec tronic jihad," may or may not strike this week, security experts said." In related news, the earth may or may not fall into the sun this week. Another quote from the eweek article: "For example, a DDoS attack in June against Akamai Technologies Inc. slowed traff ic across the Internet for several hours. And in July, DoubleClick Inc.'s DNS (d omain name system) was attacked and unable to serve ads for a similar time frame." OMFG! The internet might slow down!1!1! nice to see slashdot stories have sunk to the level of the National Enquirer and the Weekly World News.

  121. Don't worry .. by Peter_JS_Blue · · Score: 1

    .. its just lots of Windows machines trying to download SP2 updates.

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  122. Re:Damn! /Use Wildcards by mr_z_beeblebrox · · Score: 1

    Just put an asterisk in your ie address bar and go to file -> work offline. This will just download everything (not recommended for NetZero subscribers)

  123. that's what they said in 1999 ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i ain't see nothin'...

    probably would've looked like what happened in the family guy episode when year 2000 came in with a bang and stewey grew tentacles...

  124. what to do? by __aaitqo8496 · · Score: 1

    The real question is, with this information will sysadmins try and protect their resources or just ignore it (think: September 11 commission)? No one seems to have specific details, so I suppose you can't specifically protect anything (like a known trojan attack), but maybe it's time to take some general steps like ensuring your firewall is keeping things secure. Any other ideas from fellow slashdotters?

  125. Yes...the Handlers go out on a limb... by buffy · · Score: 2, Informative
    From yesterday's Internet Storm Center Handler's Diary entry:

    Jihad Begins Thursday, Internet Predicted to Melt Down by Mid-day

    You should probably starting backing up that gig of gmail to local storage. According to a Russian news site, Kaspersky Labs states that terrorists will launch attacks which will paralyze the Internet this Thursday. This tragically coincides with two weeks of script kiddie attacks (which were scheduled to begin this past Sunday) aimed at disrupting the Republican national convention. In addition, many college students are back on campus this week, which provides the e-terrorists and i-subversives with a veritable candyland of insecure boxes on big pipes. Faced with this triple threat, our beloved Internet will surely fall.

    The ISC would like to go out on a limb and predict that the Internet will not vaporize into a cloud of nothingness this Thursday, but if it does, it's been our pleasure to help stave off its inevitable annihilation this long.

    Click here.

  126. Slashdot targetted by smarttowers · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Slashdot won't be targeted. Only a fool would target slashdot and cause all the geeks in the world to have time in which they can stop an attack. Instead they will ensure slashdot is up and running so that there can be many posts about how this site or that site is down so if they are about to come back up they will be feeling the slashdot effect. So seriously if anything any organized DoS attack will have slashdot as their allie not make a front end attack.

    Long live the effects of slashdot.

  127. Nothing will happen and you know this. by DroopyStonx · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why is this a story? Seriously... This is pure BS. You KNOW tomorrow will come and go and nothing will happen.

    Might as well report that the Apocalypse is supposed to happen sometime between 7 PM and 12 AM on Friday.

    Personally, I hope it does happen. There hasn't really been any interesting attacks since Code Red. I'm always looking forward to what attackers will come up with next.

    If they could actually cause a "meltdown", then that would be purely amazing.

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    1. Re:Nothing will happen and you know this. by killeena · · Score: 1

      Apparently Kapersky just saw some arabic and hebrew language sites saying to carry out internet attacks on Israeli interests. There is crap like this all over the internet all the time, hardly nothing new.

      I think I am going to file for a patent for the words "E-Terrorists" and "i-Terrorists." ;)

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      Freedom would be not to choose between black and white but to abjure such prescribed choices. -Theodor Adorno
    2. Re:Nothing will happen and you know this. by dfj225 · · Score: 1

      Yes but the attack may or may not happen tomorrow. I know what the author was trying to get at here, but honestly that was a funny choice of wording. I would say that every single day the internet may or may not be attacked. Every single day the sun may or may not explode. You could say something similar for just about every circumstance.

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    3. Re:Nothing will happen and you know this. by theskipper · · Score: 1

      "You KNOW tomorrow will come and go and nothing will happen."

      Yeah but that's exactly what Chicken Little's naysayers said before the sky ground them into a bloody pulp.

    4. Re:Nothing will happen and you know this. by jcuervo · · Score: 2, Funny
      I think I am going to file for a patent for the words "E-Terrorists" and "i-Terrorists." ;)
      Hrm. i-Terrorists == script kiddies on Macs?
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      Assume I was drunk when I posted this.
    5. Re:Nothing will happen and you know this. by cpeterso · · Score: 1


      If there is an internet meltdown tomorrow, then this guy looks smart. If there is NO internet meltdown tomorrow, then this guy can claim his warning PREVENTED the catastrophe. He can't lose!

    6. Re:Nothing will happen and you know this. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What about Slammer? That was interesting. If not just for its very small size.

    7. Re:Nothing will happen and you know this. by Frank+T.+Lofaro+Jr. · · Score: 1

      Anyone think that perhaps the real attack has already occurred? And that we are contributing to it?

      Just spreading "news" that there will be an attack is disruptive in and of itself.

      Look at how much time and effort has already been sucked up by this.

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      Just because it CAN be done, doesn't mean it should!
    8. Re:Nothing will happen and you know this. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ..Apocalypse is supposed to happen sometime between 7 PM and 12 AM on Friday.

      That will screw up the ratings for the Olympics no end.

    9. Re:Nothing will happen and you know this. by Artifakt · · Score: 1

      You go right ahead, I'm patenting e-orange, e-red, ...

      --
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    10. Re:Nothing will happen and you know this. by Old+Wolf · · Score: 1

      Fool! Repeat after me.

      Why is this a story? Seriously... This is pure BS. You KNOW tomorrow will come and go and nothing will ha

      [NO CARRIER]

    11. Re:Nothing will happen and you know this. by szelus · · Score: 1

      Why is this a story? Seriously...

      For we can all get some good laugh here ?

  128. Earthlink - Ahead of the Curve! by buckhead_buddy · · Score: 4, Funny

    Since about midnight last night, Earthlink appears to be ahead of this "internet meltdown" curve. Their DSL service has been slow when it's working at all.

    What a service provider!

    1. Re:Earthlink - Ahead of the Curve! by St.+Arbirix · · Score: 1

      Bellsouth DSL has been a bit sketchy since this morning as well....

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    2. Re:Earthlink - Ahead of the Curve! by MarkMcLeod · · Score: 0

      Rogers too. For most of last night my modem was offline, came back up this morning though slow as hell.

    3. Re:Earthlink - Ahead of the Curve! by evilviper · · Score: 1
      Their DSL service has been slow when it's working at all.

      I'm also using Earthlink DSL, and I haven't had a single problem. In fact, it's probably been a month since it's been very slow or offline (although I can't be sure, since I'm not on 24/7) and even those times, it is only a transient problem that goes away in a half hour.

      In my experience, the only downtime I've had with them has actually be caused by problems with my telco. I sugest you look into sending a complaint up-stream, rather than complaining to Earthlink, who probably don't have a thing to do with it.
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    4. Re:Earthlink - Ahead of the Curve! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bah! Rogers has been dropping my outgoing packets to simulate this meltdown back in May around 10pm each day! They've stepped up their simulations to the entire day since July.

      Ahead of the curve my ass.

  129. I figured it out! by rf600r · · Score: 1

    You see, Apple is going to go out of business tomorrow and that will make the Interweb shut off. See? It was all so easy.

  130. Preparations by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    IF I get a subscription to slashdot, can I get a printed version. Maybe sent over mailbox email?

  131. XP SP2 by palndron · · Score: 5, Funny

    Maybe he is referring to the Windows Update release of XP SP2?

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  132. Don't go there by gregarican · · Score: 1

    Don't rag on the WWN. I for one love reading up on Osama hanging out at strip joints and "Batboy's" latest escapades...

  133. Reminds me of the old joke... by wrf3 · · Score: 2, Funny

    If you lined up all of the economists in the world, you still wouldn't reach a conclusion.

    1. Re:Reminds me of the old joke... by tanguyr · · Score: 4, Funny

      If you lined up all of the economists in the world, you still wouldn't reach a conclusion.
      Economists have successfully predicted nine of the last seven recessions.

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    2. Re:Reminds me of the old joke... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      but you'd save on ammo. Line up lawyers next!

    3. Re:Reminds me of the old joke... by Snookmz · · Score: 0, Funny

      seven out of nine recessions are caused by economists

    4. Re:Reminds me of the old joke... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unfortunately they haven't always got the dates right.

    5. Re:Reminds me of the old joke... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you took all the women in the world and lined them up naked... I'd be right over.

    6. Re:Reminds me of the old joke... by ElvenMonkey · · Score: 1

      ... if you can call "It may or may not happen" a prediction.

      Today, I shall be going out with a glove on one hand. The weatherman this morning said it was going to be hot, but on the other hand there was a risk of it being a bit chilly.

      --
      "Joy is not in things; it is in us." Richard Wagner
  134. Seriously....we need a "rim shot" mod.... by StressGuy · · Score: 3, Funny

    and it need not be limited to five.

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  135. The internet is a military specification by Cranx · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm curious to see how much success they'll have. The internet was, after all, designed explicitly for the purpose of continued operation through attacks on the network.

    1. Re:The internet is a military specification by holzp · · Score: 1

      That is an urban myth. The internet was designed by some 14 year olds who wanted pr0n without getting caught by the lady at the bookstore.

  136. Critical threat to security analysts by VdG · · Score: 1, Funny

    In order to hinder any preventative measures, I predict that cyber-terrorists, in conjunction with conventional terrorists and the Russain mafia may or may not lunch a concerted campaign of assasination on security analysts.

    This may or may not go un-noticed by the rest of us.

  137. As Rumsfeld didn't say... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    last decade's freedom fighters are this decade's terrorists...

    (actually the 80s', but it didn't sound quite as catchy;>

  138. Ha! by Vampyre_Dark · · Score: 4, Funny

    Screw the net! I spend all my time on teh intarweb!

    1. Re:Ha! by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      And even if teh intarweb goes down, there'll always be AOL.

      --
      Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
  139. Interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Article is about a Russian Computer expert and even after 291 Comments there still isn't an "In Soviet Russia" post.

  140. The sky is falling... Y2K pt. II by east+coast · · Score: 1

    Get the AKs loaded boys... There's going to be hell to pay if I can't play UT 2K4 tomorrow...

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    1. Re:The sky is falling... Y2K pt. II by Beardo+the+Bearded · · Score: 4, Funny

      With the AK, wouldn't you, technically, be playing a FPS, but with better graphics and sound?

      Careful, you're playing hardcore mode.

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      ---
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  141. Things to do to prepare for this. by Animats · · Score: 1
    OK, we have a Condition Yellow.
    • Update virus definitions.
    • Check blocked ports in firewall. Block all P2P network ports for the next 2 days, especially Kazaa, Gator, etc.
    • Change passwords on privileged accounts. Don't forget the routers and network appliances.
    • Block all executable content in mail at the firewall. This includes Word documents.
    • Don't deploy Windows XP SP2 yet. That may be the attack vector. Wait a few weeks.
    1. Re:Things to do to prepare for this. by gregarican · · Score: 4, Funny

      My strategy will consist of a different approach:

      1) Do absolutely nothing.
      2) If anything happens tomorrow pull the plug on the DSL router we use for Internet access.
      3) Plug the router back in after a few hours.
      4) Repeat step 1.

    2. Re:Things to do to prepare for this. by schmoo.me · · Score: 0

      I might have a swim.

  142. dial in bbs by codeonezero · · Score: 2, Funny

    Damn, quick someone set up old style dial up bbs :-)

    Someone archive all the pr0n, credit card numbers, serial numbers, war3z, dvds, mp3s, AAC, Linux (SCO variant not to be included) on the net on it.

    Someone set up a paypal account for donations to help keep it up. wait n/m PayPal will be gone too....

    NO!!!!!

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    ....
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    1. Re:dial in bbs by bmf033069 · · Score: 1

      "Someone archive all the pr0n, credit card numbers, serial numbers, war3z, dvds, mp3s, AAC, Linux (SCO variant not to be included) on the net on it.

      Someone set up a paypal account for donations to help keep it up. wait n/m PayPal will be gone too...."

      Time to setup a "Noah's Ark" of the internet, such that the "world" can be restored following the digital flood.

      Now that I think about it, is there any hardcopy backups of anything that would need to be saved? Take your pr0n example, much more must exist in digital format than hardcopy by now.

      Is there a printed copy of the kernel source out there as well or does it only exist digitally?

  143. Service Pack 2 released = doomsday by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My guess is that the real prediction has to with with Microshaft releasing SP2 officially through Windows Upadate.

    That has to be cyber terrorism at it's finest...

  144. self fulfilling prophecy? by ormoru · · Score: 0

    of course, one has to imagine that this Kaspersky labs guy Gostev has to be behind the whole thing.. take a look at his mail logs and see how many russian hackers he mailed in the last month saying it would be impossible for them to bring the internet down on 8/26/2004 ... curiouser and curiouser...

  145. In a word, Bullshit by TyrranzzX · · Score: 1

    I'v been reading conspiracy theorist nuts for years, and these guys are *less* substantiated than most of those nuts. Most nuts will attempt to make their stories sensationalistic in order to arrest your intellect and instill fear into you, since they have no hard data and are batshit fucking crazy. The one's I read/listen to continuously challenge their version of reality.

    At least the most of those nuts will challenge their version of reality and come up with some proof. These guys are just plain freggin idiots; it's one antivirus lab's word against another. Who want's to bet someone's lieing to make a quick buck?

    No better than the sign in the military surplus store saying "THERE WILL BE ANOTHER TERRORIST ATTACK; LEADERS HAVE SAID SO. ARE YOU PREPARED?" with a BIG picture of Rumsfield and an obscure quote from him.

    I guess the news media got what it wanted though; their sites have been slashdotted, their ad's filtered or never clicked, and their bills ub0r high. Much praise to the taco.

  146. How will I know? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hi. My ISP is NTL in the UK. Will someone please email me to tell me if the internet melts down.

    Due to the continuous DNS server crashes, service disruptions, port blocking, mail server breakage and random slowdowns we get on NTL, I may not notice otherwise.

  147. a sad, sad day by dAzED1 · · Score: 2, Funny
    "And in July, DoubleClick Inc.'s DNS (domain name system) was attacked and unable to serve ads for a similar time frame."

    I was so very sad when that happened. It was rather tragic.

    1. Re:a sad, sad day by md27 · · Score: 1

      wait a minute....web sites have ads on them???

  148. self fulfilling prophecy? by js290 · · Score: 1

    Isn't this just a self fulfilling prophecy? I mean, everybody will just be trying to download all the porn they can before the internet goes down which will intrinsically shutdown the internet.

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  149. Someone who fights the French? by A+nonymous+Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Germans, Algerians, Vietnamese ....

    1. Re:Someone who fights the French? by ImaLamer · · Score: 1
      I've always asked my friends this:

      If the Bushies and people in the Pentagon call everything French "Freedom" and they hate the French, does this make them "Freedom" haters as well?


    2. Re:Someone who fights the French? by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

      No, a freedom fighter is just a mirage.

      --
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    3. Re:Someone who fights the French? by Atzanteol · · Score: 1

      No.

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      - Charles Darwin
    4. Re:Someone who fights the French? by ImaLamer · · Score: 1

      No?

      Patriot Act?

      (BTW: they must hate freedom because they hate the French, the only people who was there for us fighting for it!)

    5. Re:Someone who fights the French? by Atzanteol · · Score: 1

      That was over 200 years ago. You going to claim we hate the British because we were at war with them 200 years ago?

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      - Charles Darwin
    6. Re:Someone who fights the French? by ImaLamer · · Score: 1

      Well, I hate the British for jumping on board with the whole WMD thing...

      Well just Tony Blair.

  150. This is so last-millennium! by argent · · Score: 1

    I mean, " the end of Usenet/ARPAnet/The Internet" stories have been going on for at least 20 years. This one isn't even original, there's been at least a couple like this since 9/11.

  151. They're not terrorists! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They're just /. readers going to a few interesting posted sites!

    (You insensitive clods!)

  152. as language slowly dies of abuse... by nanojath · · Score: 1

    A coordinated online strike against Internet servers by terrorists, dubbed "electronic jihad," may or may not strike this week...

    Am I the only person deeply annoyed by this sort of non-statement? In addition to just being stupid ("this thing will either happen, or else it won't! don't you feel informed?"), the word may intrinsically contains the will-or-will-not option. That's what "may" means. Dammit.

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  153. It's when your internet time piece stops ticking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was going to say it's only a day a way, but we're still working on writting up a /. article on the root nameservers. (that's right, we'll /. those, and everything else will follow...)

    -Scott

  154. Just like they said... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    More like Microsoft releasing the service pack for Windows XP Professional via Windows Update/Automatic Update

    ...the Internet will be taken down by those nasty cyberterrorists.

  155. The colors on these pages are cauing a meltdown of by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    my eyes.

  156. No Internet == No use of bank cards by LordZardoz · · Score: 1

    The internet may not be your livelyhood, but if you use ATM's or pay with credit cards often, you would probably notice a wholesale internet blackout.

    Once in a while, one of the major banks in Canada has a hiccup related to its central servers, and you cannot pay by Interac / debit card. Since alot of people now use debit to buy shit like groceries, this can cause problems. I am sure the same sort of crap happens in the US or any other nation that uses Interac type transactions.

    This means that 1 in 5 people or so cannot spend their money for a while, and that a similar number of stores cannot offer interac services. If that hit everyone at once, it would cause a huge problem. You could probably still go to a bank and obtain cash, but if everyone was doing this all at once, there would be pretty long lines.

    As a rule of thumb, if something depends on getting info accessed over the internet, think of what not being able to access that information means.

    END COMMUNICATION

  157. Redundancy by Eudial · · Score: 1

    Isn't the whole idea with the internet that it's supposed to be a redundant network? Take one server down and it routes through the others.

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    1. Re:Redundancy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, and the idea behind marriage was to live happily ever after, so how come I'm so damn miserable? Hunh?! Tell me biyatch.

  158. I think you mean catastrophes of the biblical type by The+Ape+With+No+Name · · Score: 1

    through attacks on the network.

    If one 'node' drops because of, say Ronald Reagan got an itchy trigger finger, then the others would still be able to talk to each other. It is not designed to stop a coordinated attack on the very infrastructure itself or to stop exploitation of the obvious (now) flaws in design.

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  159. could we withstand an advertising ddos? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    from article:

    > And in July, DoubleClick Inc.'s DNS (domain name system) was attacked and unable to serve ads for a similar time frame.

    Oh the horrors of that happening....

  160. Is this.... by kernelfoobar · · Score: 2, Funny

    really that bad?

    from eweek: here:
    And in July, DoubleClick Inc.'s DNS (domain name system) was attacked and unable to serve ads for a similar time frame.

    oh, boo-hoo people can't get their poor little ads...

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  161. Insert Yackov Smirnov Joke here by stopbit · · Score: 1

    The lameness filter is off the CHARTS!

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  162. Story debunked by Red+Alastor · · Score: 1
    The following link explain how journalists did a sloppy job...

    http://www.vmyths.com/hoax.cfm?id=281&page=3

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  163. Whar type of Shut down by chrisw7500 · · Score: 1

    Are we looking at mass shut down of DNS Servers or what? and if that is so no one knows when and how big it will be if all because we all know how Dns propagations work. It can take up to 24 hours for anyone to see effects. Is it is just going be a slit change of user's internet DNS settings. If so what will they be set to? DNS stands for Domain Name System. This System translates a domain name such as rshweb.com into the Internet Protocol (IP) numbers (209.203.234.42) to find the correct web site - in this case the site for Domain Bank. The network of computers that constitute the Internet map domain names to their corresponding IP numbers. The data is then made available to all computers and users on the Internet. domain.rshweb.com/glossary.html

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  164. Gotta get it now by TwoStepsBehind · · Score: 0

    Oh no... I better start downloading all my pr0n now!!!

  165. Re:I think you mean catastrophes of the biblical t by SuiteSisterMary · · Score: 1

    Also, the Internet hasn't exactly been built to specification; there are quite a few bottleneck backbones.

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  166. Finally! by mnewton32 · · Score: 5, Funny

    A story on /. that doesn't require you to RTFA! I think the headline on this site contained almost as much information as the linked stories did.

    1. Re:Finally! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      sure..you can say that...

      who is going to verify that statement anyway ? A slashdotter who has read the article ?

  167. Anybody Mirror this Mirror? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's /.ed.

    1. Re:Anybody Mirror this Mirror? by Cat_Byte · · Score: 1

      Dammit that is my default search engine and it's slashdotted. I wondered what was wrong.

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    2. Re:Anybody Mirror this Mirror? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ? ouy taht si ,ecilA

  168. This is a misquote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative


    It is explained clearly by Russ Cooper in this bugtraq post.

  169. Not Router, SP2 by Uber+Banker · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Seems more like Microsoft releasing the service pack for Windows XP via Windows Update/Automatic Update.

    SP2 has been available for a week or two (there was a link posted on Slashdot to the download page) to (I think) business and netadmins. My guess is that black hat hackers have found some holes and are perched to launch new exploits. That's the only meltdown I can conceive at the moment.

    1. Re:Not Router, SP2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Copy much? Seriously, it's better for everyone if you post your own thoughts. It's not that hard.

  170. The world will end... by the_pillBOX · · Score: 1

    The world will end tomorrow, and you may die!

  171. $$$ billions £££ by Skiron · · Score: 1

    Terrorists also can cause a lot of damage, as most of the western world is now so reliant on networks/networking (Banking, ATM, news etc. etc.). I wondered a long time ago how soon it will be when the transatlantic cables are targets.

  172. eJihad by nc_creeper · · Score: 1

    What exactly is eJihad? Boston term? "eJihad out!" or Terrorism Statement: "You must change your homepage to www.e.bin.laden.org or your computer will destroy you and all of your family!!!!! (alternately, you may install the latest edition of XP)

  173. As long as it doesn't.... by ericdano · · Score: 1

    Happen on a Tuesday. That is when Apple makes the announcements of new products at the Expo in Paris....

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  174. The end of all we know! by Wyldstar · · Score: 1

    Probably not gonna happen folks... If I were a terrorist, I definitely wouldn't leak it out, I woulda just done it already...

    If for some reason it does happen, well, nice to know everyone, I'll be on a beach somewhere enjoying my new found freedom!

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  175. My Porn!!! by schiefaw · · Score: 1
    Now I will have to go to the corner store for hard copy. That does it! If I have to give up my right to a trial and my freedom of speech it is a small price to keep my porn safe!

    Citizen, The Computer is your friend! Now turn yourself in for termination.

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  176. Re:I think you mean catastrophes of the biblical t by Cranx · · Score: 1

    continued operation through attacks on the network

    I never said it was designed to stop an attack. I said it was designed for continued operation through attacks on the network. See my quote above?

  177. You must be confused... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Tomorrow never comes.

  178. .....elgoog:eR by rizzo420 · · Score: 1

    .yad lla nees ev'I gniht tseinnuF .gnisuma etiuq saw tahT

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  179. I'll worry when... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Someone let me know when online boxcutters become avilable, maybe terroists will hijack and crash the internet with a couple of those?

  180. Happens all the time... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Doesn't this happen every so many years, when they search for old, forgotten computers on the internet? I get an email about this fairly often telling me to disconnect for a day so I don't get zapped...

  181. They can have it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    2^32* ip's and nothing to look at anyway.

    * Don't berate me on the number. Call it comedic license. I did not look it up and I don't care. If it matters to you and you're not an engineer, you need a life.

  182. Also... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    j-had : the java implementation
    py-had : " python
    G - had : google's 1GB version
    longhorn: micro$of....wait...nevermind

  183. ISC got another side by UnderAttack · · Score: 5, Funny

    I like the Internet Storm Center's comment about this "news". From today's
    diary:

    "The ISC would like to go out on a limb and predict that the Internet will not vaporize into a cloud of nothingness this Thursday, but if it does, it's been our pleasure to help stave off its inevitable annihilation this long."

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    1. Re:ISC got another side by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      nows thats funny.

  184. Re:I think you mean catastrophes of the biblical t by Cranx · · Score: 1

    But there is also a lot of redundancy, and you can create routes on-the-fly at any time. At best, terrorists could slow down segments of the internet, but you'd pretty much have to destroy the planet itself to take it all down.

  185. How is it???? by Darkahn · · Score: 1

    That an attack on the servers hosted out on the Internet can be seen as taking the internet down?
    Now if there were a large scale attack on the NAP's, and/or Routers, then yes you could take a large chunk of the Internet offline.
    What amazes me is how pointless it all is, the traffic from the offending locations is easy to refuse (after it is tracked down) and causes a 1 or 2 day headache for some poor geek in a dark room.
    Sure for business it may mean that their profit projections for the year are now off by a few dollars, but in whole, buisness is not hurt NEARLY as much as they would like you to think.

  186. It's that damned Shah-0! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    eWeek knows what this is all about. That evil Shah that's been cracked, that's what!

    I'm sorry, I just had to unravel the mystery of the Shah.

  187. Finally! by Tairnyn · · Score: 2, Funny

    Now I might make use of that Y2K shelter I built before the last advertised armageddon. I will remain sheltered and safe as our countries digital infrastructure is brought to its knees, causing widespread havoc and depriving returned college students of their Kazaa fix. I've been dying to break into the Tang and Deviled Ham stockpiles.

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  188. Baloney by theendlessnow · · Score: 3, Funny
    Aleksandr Gostev from Kaspersky Labs, has predicted that a large chunk of the Internet will be shut down tomorrow by cyber terrorists.

    It's just the stupid XP SP2 upgrade through Windows Auto Update. How somebody could confuse a Windows update with cyber terrorism is beyond me!

  189. Encryption - MD5 and SHA0 by tredman · · Score: 2, Funny

    I may be off my rocker here, but...

    I know what MD5 hashing is...What the hell is "Shah 0", discussed in the eWeek article? Does this mean that Iran is giving us encryption now? It must not be very good, if it's in danger of being cracked.

    Thoroughly cracked myself...
    Tim

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    1. Re:Encryption - MD5 and SHA0 by Nynaeve · · Score: 1

      In the same sentence, the eWeek article also quotes one person as saying MD5 was cracked. It was not. Not only that, but the cracking of SHA-0 is not terribly useful as SHA-1 is in common use.

      It's because of writers like this not checking the facts that we get stories like this or the faked-beheading story a while back.

      I despise shoddy and lazy reporting; this eWeek article is full of it.

  190. Ooh by happylight · · Score: 2, Funny

    Now watch for a dupe of this story TOMORROW!

  191. Say it aint so! by Damon+C.+Richardson · · Score: 1

    Darn... First the terrorist attacks tomorrow and then the apocalypse on Friday! Do you know if it's before or after SG1?

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  192. go ahead make my day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have lots of pr0n to outlast any ./ reader, while most will be chasing brooms with skirts, goats and sheeps I'll be happy as a clam.

  193. You kidding? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Putin and Bush are two peas in a pod. Welcome to the 21st century. I bet Bush has wet dreams wishing he was Putin or Bertolusconi (SIC?).

  194. Innaccurate translation by daves · · Score: 1
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  195. Is this CNN? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    WTF is CyberTerrorism, you guys like to make everything very dramatic, a couple of script kiddies fucking with you rednecks

    Losers

  196. e-alert? by usrid0 · · Score: 1

    Did they raise the e-alert level?

    1. Re:e-alert? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can host the interweb from my 3mbps cable line...

  197. Spring cleaning? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The internet will be turned off tomorrow for spring cleaning. (Please tell me I'm not the only one old enough to remember this old one?)

    1. Re:Spring cleaning? by Wyldstar · · Score: 1

      I had almost forgotten about this one....

      My life is once again complete....

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  198. All Your Internet Are Belong To Us by p0 · · Score: 1

    Burn KARMA! It was supposed to be a secret! Now you have slashdotted the story! You American Bastards! All Your Internet Are Belong To Us!

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  199. I don't think the RNC has anything to do with it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...while we know from /. that their computers are insecure, I'm not certain that Crimethinc et al. could break into a wet paper bag, much less RNC servers.

    On a side note, I love left-wing fascists (yes, I did mean that) masquerading as liberals and telling me how to think. I don't trust these guys to crack an egg, much less a server - why would I trust anyone of their ilk to run anything larger and more complex than a picnic?

  200. ### The real threat ### by einhverfr · · Score: 3, Funny

    Someone has found This....

    No DON'T push that button...

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    1. Re:### The real threat ### by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Click. Click.
      Firebird has prevented me from turning off the internet.
      Maybe I am turning off someone else's internet.

      click. click. click. click. click. click. click. click. click. click. click. click...

  201. Why post? by PsiPsiStar · · Score: 4, Funny

    If he's right, it's not like your comments will be modded up anyways.

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    1. Re:Why post? by Breakerofthings · · Score: 2, Funny

      Or Down

      Prepare for the Revenge of the Trolls

  202. Cyber terrorists? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Someone who downs the internet should be called something else like cyber hemorroids. After all they wouldn't generate terror. They would simply generate a major pain in the ass.

  203. shhhhh... by famazza · · Score: 1

    let's pretend we are terrorized, so they'll think they are being effective.

    i prefer being virtualy terrorized than personaly.

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  204. depends on... by zogger · · Score: 1

    ...how much insider trading goes on, and how extensive the penetration into the super computer weilding spook agencies it gets.

    Say you were a big property owner and also had some fingers into other pies, like insurance companies and airliners. Say you knew a big *something* was coming that would-say-destroy a few buildings, cause some airline stocks to drop, etc.

    Could you make money with that information? I think "yes"

    On a smaller scale, say you knew a major corporate website would be suffering an attack like a DDoS or defacement, and you had a buhzillion shares in that company, perhaps through some daisy chained front companies.

    Could you make money from that information and action? I think "yes"

    Nope, I'm not cynical....

  205. Re:I don't think the RNC has anything to do with i by menscher · · Score: 1

    I agree that they couldn't break into the RNC servers. But what do script kiddies do when they can't hack something? They pout -- and then they launch a DoS attack.

  206. Good Sources by AhabTheArab · · Score: 1

    We all know how trustworthy the Inquirer is. It must be true, the sky is going to fall tomorrow.

    1. Re:Good Sources by Wapiti-eater · · Score: 1

      Don't confuse "The National Enquirer" with "The Inquirer". Two totally different publications with pretty much nothing in common.

      Mmm, didn't know that - The Inquirer and The Register were started by the same guy...

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    2. Re:Good Sources by AhabTheArab · · Score: 1

      bah. thats right

  207. OT: definitions by SpecBear · · Score: 1

    Reminds me of a sig I first saw many years back:

    "The bus station is where the bus stops. The train station is where the train stops. On my desk, I have a workstation..."

  208. LAST POST! by gosand · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    LAST POST!

    Just getting a jump on the competition....

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  209. doomsday predicted in '99 by calin2k · · Score: 1

    Fashion designer Paco Rabanne claimed that Mir would crash into Paris on August 11 1999. It didn't. Others said that a monstrous asteroid or comet, previously unseen, would become visible during the eclipse and strike the Earth thereafter. Nothing happened.

  210. aHA! by Ligur · · Score: 1

    So that's what the Big Button does!

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  211. Back to their old tricks by kd5ujz · · Score: 1

    Guess l0pht got bored. Businiess at @stake must have been down last week.

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    God is everything science has yet to explain.
  212. hurricane charley by zogger · · Score: 1

    and the dismal federal response show that homeland security is a joke

    We just had an old geezer shopkeeper shot and killed here (nearesty small town) for a few dollars, right in front of his wife.

    Illegal immigrants, they caught them already

    Guarding borders way over in whoknowswhereistan does nothing when you let in THIRTY MILLION undocumented illegals. Just ask any cop on any of the various gang activity strike forces how bad it is. We got maybe a couple hundred hardcore al queda (something like that) inside the US-maybe, just maybe-but we got around a quarter million illegal immigrant gang members who kill/steal/hijack/rape/pick any violent ctime daily. But, that's not "terrorism" that's not "an invasion" according to our glorius leaders, it's just people seeking employment.

  213. So would this be classified as a known unknown? by dnixon112 · · Score: 1

    A page from the book of Rumsfeld.

  214. 503s by DavidPatterson · · Score: 1

    Oh boy...even *more* 503s from /.

  215. Re:I think you mean catastrophes of the biblical t by Cro+Magnon · · Score: 1
    you'd pretty much have to destroy the planet itself to take it all down.


    OhNo, the attack will be worse than I thought!
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  216. On Russian computer experts by MasTRE · · Score: 3, Funny

    Sounds to me like someone's had a bit too much vodka. Put the bottle down, Boris!

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  217. Apocalypse! by Mastadex · · Score: 1

    As forseen by the bible code and notradamus and bob dole, this is the the ninth sign of the apocalypse!

    REPENT, I SAY!

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  218. Oh for pity's sake!! At least get the facts right by Wapiti-eater · · Score: 5, Informative

    From: news@kaspersky.com [mailto:news@kaspersky.com]
    Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 10:29 AM
    To: news@kaspersky.com
    Subject: VirusList.com Virus Alerts & Virus News: 25th August 2004: Who knows what tomorrow will bring?

    VirusList.com Virus Alerts & Virus News. Wednesday, August 25, 2004

    1. 25th August 2004: Who knows what tomorrow will bring?
    2. How to subscribe/unsubscribe
    3. Security Rules

    ****

    1. 25th August 2004: Who knows what tomorrow will bring?

    A handful of sites are stating that Eugene Kaspersky, founder of Kaspersky Labs, believes that tomorrow will bring a massive terrorist attack on the Internet. This is being quoted in a range of ways, ranging from factual reporting to citing the story as an example of cyber hysteria.

    However, Kaspersky is not predicting the end of the Internet tomorrow - or even in the near future. The story stems from brief comments made yesterday at a press conference which was dedicated to cybercrime and the problems of spam.

    At this press conference, Kaspersky commented that the possibility of terrorists using the Internet as a tool to attack certain countries was a reality. As an example, he cited the fact that a number of Arabic and Hebrew language websites contained an announcement of an 'electronic jihad' against Israel, to start on 26th August 2004.

    In an interview today, Kaspersky stressed that such information was not necessarily trustworthy. 'We don't know who is behind these statements.' He went on to clarify: 'It's not the first time the term 'electronic jihad' has been used. We've seen this before, with the focus being on sending racist emails, and defacing and hacking Israeli web sites. But it is the first time I have seen sites encouraging the use of Internet attacks against one country as a form of terrorism.'

    'As we've already stated many times in the past, it would be easy enough to use a network of infected computers to launch such an attack. We saw the impact that Sasser, Mydoom and Slammer had, on the Internet, businesses and organisations. Just imagine if such an attack was directed at one country or one critical point in the infrastructure of the Internet. Computers are a tool - and just like any tool, they can be used or misused.'

    Kaspersky emphasised that the likelihood of a massive attack directed against Israeli institutions tomorrow is low. However, he believes that Pandora's box has now been opened. Hackers and virus writers can be motivated by a range of factors: money, curiosity, or political conviction. But whatever their motivation, the insecure nature of the Internet and weak security precautions offer a wealth of opportunities. 'Maybe it won't be tomorrow, or the day after tomorrow - but sooner or later, terrorists will be using the Internet as another weapon in their arsenal.' :snipped::

    See http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/today/0006. html for the rest.

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  219. Just shutdown SSH, enable it via web? by mrjb · · Score: 1

    Like many people I run not only SSH but also a web server with VirtualHosts. I've been thinking of simply shutting down SSH by default- if no service is running on port 22, it can't be hacked.

    If I'd want SSH access, I could connect to a certain virtual host on the server, via an SSL link, with the correct username and password.

    After all ssh sessions have terminated, sshd could then be shut down again. Without doubt this should be possible, but I don't feel like re-inventing the wheel. Perhaps someone has already done something like this?

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    1. Re:Just shutdown SSH, enable it via web? by GreyWolf3000 · · Score: 1

      Or, if your system uses tcp wrappers, you could set your sshd line in your hosts.allow file and allow only hostnames that you use to ssh in. If you needed to ssh from somewhere remotely, you could ssh in to one of your 'trusted' machines and then ssh into your box that way.

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  220. one can only hope by sootman · · Score: 1

    With any luck, they'll nuke it.slashdot.org first.

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  221. Loop Holes by NekoNoBaka · · Score: 2, Interesting

    On its FAQ:

    1.12. Did people in China really use the Google Mirror after China blocked Google?
    Yes. We received numerous emails from web surfers in China thanking us for this service.

    1.13. I heard that China also blocked other websites that used Google. Why didn't China block elgooG too?
    We believe that elgooG survived the Great Firewall of China because the firewall operators thought that elgooG was a joke and not a fully functional version of Google.

    http://alltooflat.com/geeky/elgoog/info/

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  222. You're So Silly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is serious. Orange will not suffice. We are now up to Baboon's Ass Red.

  223. horrible attacks by gbickford · · Score: 0

    FTA: "DNS (domain name system) was attacked and unable to serve ads for a similar time frame."
    Are they referring to Sitefinder ?

  224. this may be in connection with... by jbmarsh80 · · Score: 2, Funny

    a recent e-mail i got asking me to change our router passwords all to admin/admin. It may have been a mistake for me to do that now that I think about it :(

  225. BRING IT!!! by jrf83317 · · Score: 0

    BRING IT ON BITCHES!!! Lets see what my win95 box can handle

  226. SP2 Automatic Update - 300 million computers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Internet meltdown will happen, but not because of attack...

    Microsoft is releasing SP2 (download size from 100 MB to 260 MB) via Automatic Update to 300 million computers running Windows XP. Tommorow Windows users will start to download this huge service pack and internet will be slow - that's all.

    1. Re:SP2 Automatic Update - 300 million computers by digrieze · · Score: 1

      In case no one has noticed there have only been two things that caused problems with the internet.

      The most recent was the massive northeastern power outage (damn yankees).

      The first was the *UNIX* sendmail internet worm.

      As flaky as windows has historically been it's never caused as much interruption as the last.

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  227. Geez! by ackthpt · · Score: 1
    You mean I might actually get to go outside and go to the beach and soak up a few rays??? Jeez what a horrid loss....

    Geez! You'll do anything to get out of actually doing some work!

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    A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
  228. They found the site.. by silverhalide · · Score: 2, Funny

    Apparently the terrorists found this website, and will be visiting it tomorrow:

  229. the real problem... by DeskLazer · · Score: 1

    what will happen to my #idlerpg stats? it'll set me back days!

  230. OK.... by WalletBoy · · Score: 1

    Who bought the can of expired Vienna sausage ?

  231. quick, crash the internet by vanboy · · Score: 1

    Alert to all Russian hackers: Bring down the internet at once to confuse the stupid Americans and stop the information about the two plane crashes. Do not allow embarassment to the motherland!

  232. Encrypted unravelled, eh? by Lethyos · · Score: 2, Interesting

    From the eWeek article:

    But a recent string of attacks on primary Internet services and the unraveling of major encryption routines are raising concerns in the Internet operator community.

    Sounds like someone with less than half a clue got hold of a certain Slashdot article and is blowing it way out of proportion. Also from that same article:

    A coordinated online strike against Internet servers by terrorists, dubbed "electronic jihad," may or may not strike this week...

    I can imagine a few guys with AK-47s, sitting either in bombed out buildings or caves in the middle of a desert hacking away at encryption algorithms and figuring out ways to trounce "Internet servers". Sheesh, what do we need all of our mathematicians and security researchers for if these guys can just brush these mechanisms out of the way like theyre nothing?

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  233. Who ya gonna call? by superyooser · · Score: 1
    Terrorist Busters!
    Did the CIA's web site already get hacked? Looks like fark fodder.
  234. Bullshit by pipingguy · · Score: 1


    It's just internet cleaning tine, you all are probably familiar with it.

  235. Interestingly... by Chicane-UK · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Our net connection at work today was totally choked with a huge DoS attack.

    Considering i've not seen this happen for the 5 years i've been using that connection (previous job used my job as their ISP), and considering the fact we have multiple lines including 155mbit ATM's, it seems to be very very unusual timing for this article to come up.

    OH NOES! TEH APPOCALYPES!!11 :)

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  236. Re: Slashdot Slashdot! by Bastian · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Here's the plan, we all agree on a set time to blast Slashdot.org with wget in mirroring mode, and make it clear that it won't stop until the color scheme changes.

  237. *Whew* by smyle · · Score: 1
    It's a good thing we filter Evil Bits out of our network.

    You'd think the DNS root servers, Akamai, and the like would be filtering them, too.

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  238. Cahce of the Google Cache of google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  239. Interesting? by Lethyos · · Score: 1

    Uhm, that was really meant to be funny. It isnt insightful or interesting... it's humorous. Sheesh moderators.

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    Why bother.
  240. You didnt get your emails by mrtroy · · Score: 1

    I was expecting for this to begin on the 22nd

    >August 22nd - Day of online direct action a week before the convention >begins. All are encouraged to attack as many right-wing, corporate, >government or military sites as possible. Web defacements, email attacks, >financial disruption, anything and everything. These attacks will be used >to stir discussion of the RNC, encourage people to participate in the >protests in NYC itself, and to build for the mainstream electronic sit-in >on the >29th.

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  241. The Inquirer is a news source now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1. When did the Inquirer start reporting real news?

    2. When did Slashdot start thinking anything reported by the Inquirer was worthy of mention??

  242. things to break teh intarweb by Hognoxious · · Score: 1
    The most recent was the massive northeastern power outage (damn yankees).

    The first was the *UNIX* sendmail internet worm.

    Aren't you forgetting the most common - a link in a slashdot story ^H^H^ article?
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    Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
  243. The silver lining! by alex_ware · · Score: 1

    --** And in July, DoubleClick Inc.'s DNS (domain name system) was attacked and unable to serve ads for a similar time frame[several hours].**--
    I know thats bad for them but we all HATE banner adverts. (and we all know our favourite sites NEED the money)

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    If you have nothing useful to say post as AC.
  244. Re:Care to define that? BUSINESS GOOD! by OldHawk777 · · Score: 1

    Corporate-Welfare-Business [Anti-Capitalist] Good - Terrorist Bad - Therefor, all Anti-Corporate-Welfare people are Terrorist. This includes many OSS Geeks/Freaks. Serve Corporate-Welfare Aristocracy, or Serve Human Capitalism to build a democratic meritocracy, but you cannot have two masters. Most US UN EU leaders serve the Corporate-Welfare-Business [Anti-Capitalist] to oppress humanity.

    That is why spam and spyware are business tools, not terrorist tools.

    If it is good for business, then it must be good, then it can't be bad; Therefor, it cannot be terrorist related. ID theft (whoops, I mean outsourcing) by spyware, is good for US UN EU. Spam is just junk-email for business, if it is okay for junk-snail-mail, then spam is good .... This is the mental/ethical functional ability of plutocrat servants [AKA: political and religious leaders not serving the people].

    OldHawk777

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  245. RTFA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It mentions that it is to coincides with the RNC.

  246. Did anyone ask Al? by chiph · · Score: 2, Funny

    It's Al Gore's internet. Did anyone ask him if this was a planned outage?

    Chip H.

  247. These attacks are easy to do.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    With more then a million infected computers and installed trojans out there, caused by the zillions of clueless sex starved couch potatoes out in Bozo land, it's no WONDER these things are possible.

    As long as clueless people open up attachments or fail to apply security patches to their WinBlows systems, we are going to have these problems.

  248. Troll Alert! =-) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Huzzah!

    http://www.gelighting.com/na/contactus/prodconcern s.html

    States that the average bulb lifetime is the median time to failure in their lab. Thus, the extremely long lasting bulbs and the extremely short lasting bulbs both have little effect on the "average lifetime" a bulb has and most people can expect to experience a bulb's "average lifetime" to be approximately as stated on the package. =-)

    1. Re:Troll Alert! =-) by severoon · · Score: 1

      Well, I guess things have changed since the authors wrote my college statistics text book in 1994. I bear absolutely no responsibility for this collision with the facts, I would like to point out it's all due to those dastardly authors.

      (I gotsta keep up me /. forum cred, you unnerstans.)

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      but have you considered the following argument: shut up.
  249. Not So by PingPongBoy · · Score: 1

    Half the world installing SP2 will meltdown the Internet - probably sporadically at the leaf level where a lot of clients just crash.

    ISPs should cache SP2 so that the backbone doesn't have to send the same redundant copies all over the place.

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    Know your pads. One time pad: good for cryptography. Two timing pad: where to take your mistress.
  250. US Govt. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But if it has anything to do with terrorism, won't the Pentagon have to fake an attack on their servers first?

    757 my arse.

  251. Taking Thursday Off by Fek'Lar · · Score: 0

    No network? Cool! Tomorrow's a sick day.

  252. No need to worry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I subscribe to the Kaspersky mailing list and they sent a message that sounded like this (well i think i have it right at least the gist of it i deleted the letter before i found this) some one from kaspersky labs mentioned a e-jihad in his speech and while not new one site dedicated to e-jihad said it planned an attack starting thursday. Now there have been many failied e-jihad (or as they may prefer 3-j1h4d) attempts and most likely to include this one (or they do as little damage as a lone script kiddie). The guy was talking about how now the internet has now become an angle of attack for terrorists and web site defacings, dos attacks and possibly even viruses are not being written for just the fun of some lame script kiddie out to make a name for him self or the business incented viruses that allow spammers to make massive proxy networks but now terrorist or terrorist funded persons. This warning of doom brought on by terrorists is and hsould not be anymore frightening than hearing the govt announce they have heard an increase in chatter.

  253. I need the day off anyway. by eBayDoug · · Score: 1



    I predict long lines and high attendance at fast food restaurants, game rooms and movie theaters.

    It's a shame the studios aren't releasing Meet the Fockers or Star Trek 5678 tomorrow.

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    Learn About Outsourcing. http://www.pioutsource.com
  254. MD5 cracked? by noda132 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Whoa. The article says MD5 encryption was cracked. Is this true? I had only heard a rumour that a single collision had been found. And as for SHA-0... that's hardly making up the backbone of the Internet, is it?

    Wait a minute... is MD5 even encryption at all? I thought it was a "message digest"...

    1. Re:MD5 cracked? by kirkjobsluder · · Score: 4, Informative

      Multiple MD5 and one SHA0 collisions were confirmed at the Crypto 2004 conference in Santa Barbara. Perhaps more important is that these collisions demonstrated the feasibility of "shortcuts" to produce a collision. At this time, these are belived to be of little practical significance because they are still computationally expensive and affect only collision avoidance. There are two aspects to MD5 and SHA that are important. Collision avoidance is one, the other is preimage resistance (the difficulty creating an input to the function that produces a known output.) However, it is quite possible that these breaks can be expanded into even larger breaks, including preimage cracking.

      While not encryption, MD5 and SHA are used in a variety of ways that are important to encryption. For example PGP and GPG use hash algorithms and salt to convert plantext passphrases into pseudo-random encryption keys. So one possible threat is finding that MD5 and SHA are biased enough to make an attack feasible. It does not matter if blowfish uses 128 bit encryption if the function used to generate the key is significantly biased. Big huge "if."

      As someone else pointed out, MD5 is used to encrypt passwords in some password files. If someone expands the shortcut to defeat preimage resistance, it might be easier to find a working passphrase from a password file. Again, this is a big "if."

      So the one article is blowing things out of proportion. These are not the kind of breaks that would lead to a practical attack yet. The collisions were created using generated plaintexts so it is not likely that someone can slip a trojan into source code in such a way as to produce the same hash string.

    2. Re:MD5 cracked? by kirkjobsluder · · Score: 2, Informative

      Collision avoidance is one, the other is preimage resistance (the difficulty creating an input to the function that produces a known output.)

      Whoops, didn't describe that well.

      It is easy to produce "33ab5639bfd8e7b95eb1d8d0b87781d4ffea4d5d" if you know that the input is "Hello world". What is still unknown is if there are shortcuts that permit us to (more) quickly find a solution to sha1(x) = "33ab5639..." This solution does not necessarily need to be "Hello world."

  255. Tell me something new by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    How many times have we heard a story/threat like this.

    *yawn*

  256. Freedom Fighter by pommiekiwifruit · · Score: 1

    Groan! Oh for a few mod points...

  257. if you're worried... by mcovey · · Score: 1

    if you're worried, SSH/telnet onto your webserver and tar -cfr * then get the file via FTP or HTTP... Mine was only 10MB :-O

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    Amen.
  258. Backup by Skeezix · · Score: 1

    Did anyone think to make a hardcopy?

  259. Mod Parent Up by Powercntrl · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    It's a rare thing that a Soviet Russia meme is on-topic. This is perfect too, because the following is true:

    A Russian computer expert, Aleksandr Gostev from Kaspersky Labs, has predicted that a large chunk of the Internet will be shut down tomorrow by cyber terrorists.

    Chernobyl is well-known for a famous meltdown.

    Too much Internet usage possibly could melt your brain.

    In light of the evidence, I say the parent post is quite funny. Besides, it's an AC, you can't karma-whore as an AC (not that funny mods count towards karma anyway).

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    DRM is like antifreeze, to the MPAA/RIAA it's sweet, to the consumers it's poison.
  260. Seems more likely the Internet will be swamped by DeprecatedFeature · · Score: 1
    by people trying to find out if the Internet will be crashed. I'm sure all those people downloading full motion video of talking heads saying "and the Internet is supposed to crash" won't help.

    Hey, wait a minute -- isn't the original Checkpoint FW code of Israeli origin? hmmmmm. Checkpoint exploits, anyone? Seriously, one of the reasons we were always told that defense companies avoided CPFW for so long was because it was from Israel. I don't know whether that's crap or not... it certainly sounds like it, though. Anyone know?

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    maybe one day i'll be smart enough to come up with a cool sig, too.
  261. More disasters next week by jazman · · Score: 1

    The article I read said disaster may or may not strike next week. Well, heck, that was difficult to predict, wasn't it? Here are my forecasts for next week:

    1. An asteroid may or may not strike central Washington DC and wipe out all the pigeons, but leave everything else untouched;
    2. Microsoft may or may not open source Windows and produce a new version of Windows with a Linux core, much like Apple did with OS-X;
    3. Al Quaeda may or may not simultaneously knock down all buildings over twenty feet high in America at exactly 1:37pm on Thursday.

    So, now that I'm obviously a highly skilled journalist, can I have my million dollars now please?

  262. funny!?!?!? by rozz · · Score: 1
    this thread has probably the most +5funny posts ever ... and most of the moderating points are fully deserved

    the only problem - the subject is not funny at all .. slashdot works in misterious ways

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    "There is nothing more frightful than ignorance in action." Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
  263. obRen&Stimpy by vonahsen · · Score: 1

    REN: Now, listen, Cadet. I've got a JOB for you. See this button? (Stimpy reaches for the button) DON'T TOUCH IT! It's the HISTORY ERASER button, you FOOL!
    STIMPY: So what'll happen?
    REN: That's just IT! We don't KNOW! Maayyybeee something bad?...Mayyybeee something good! I guess we'll never know! 'Cause you're going to guard it! You won't TOUCH it, will you?
    (Stimpy salutes. Ren leaves.)
    REN: Hehhh...hehhhh...hehhhh...hehhhh...
    (Stimpy marches back and forth, starting at the button.)
    ANNOUNCER: Oh, how long can trusty Cadet Stimpy hold out? How can he possibly resist the diabolical urge to push the button that could erase his very existence? Will his tortured mind give in to its uncontrollable desires? (Announcer grabs Stimpy, forces him closer to the button.) Can he resist the temptation to push the button that, even now, beckons him even closer? Will he succumb to the maddening urge to eradicate history? At the MERE...PUSH...of a SINGLE...BUTTON! The beeyootiful SHINY button! The jolly CANDY-LIKE button! Will he hold out, folks? CAN he hold out?
    STIMPY: NO I CAN'T!!!EEEEEYAAAHHHH! (pushes button)

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    1. Re:obRen&Stimpy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What a horrible cartoon.

  264. Internet doomsdays, Inflatable dolls rallies? by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 1

    Well I don't know about you guys, but should I really trust a medium with news like this?

  265. Ever heard of a password hash? by Baldrson · · Score: 1

    The reason passwords are stored as a hash is so that people can't perform the inverse relation of the hash and type that in as a password. Cracking a hash means you have found a way to perform that inversion.

  266. Link to CNet by Nfnitloop · · Score: 1

    CNet Story Here tells a different side.

  267. oh yes, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Yep, have gotten them all over. From my home ADSL line and on friends ADSL lines as well, to the server at work (where the firewall redirect them to our fake server).
    The graph at dshield, reflects very well when I started seeing it.(in the middle of July)

  268. i didnt tell anyone by skudenfaugen · · Score: 1

    how do they know that i was going to do this, i didnt tell anyone.

  269. Yes... by rd_syringe · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Let's speculate on the speculation and ultimately conclude it's Microsoft's fault for absolutely no reason and with no evidence. And +5 we go!

  270. Dense middle part of the population by scruffyMark · · Score: 1

    Yes, indeed. They may not be denser than average, but they're pretty dense nonetheless.

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    What is the robbing of a bank, compared to the founding of a bank? -- Bertolt Brecht

  271. too late by eddeye · · Score: 2, Funny

    They've already struck. Their insidious plan is to blind people with horrible web page colors. Ah my eyes! I'm hit! Man down, man down!

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    Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on lunch.
  272. The Prophet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    4ll4h h4s sp0ken.

  273. Death of the Net predicted by Paul+Johnson · · Score: 1

    Film at 11!

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    You are lost in a twisty maze of little standards, all different.
  274. Terror 1, Internet 0 by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1

    Terrorists have already won this round. When the media spreads fear, that's terrorism in action. When people do things, fear of which the media spreads, they're terrorists - the people doing the things, and the media spreading their fear. In this case, the eWeek story spreads the fear of the attack mentioned as possible by the Russian "security expert" as an excuse to spread slightly more plausible fear of "recent encryption cracks", then cranking up to the fear of "political hacktivism". In this story, the media hasn't even needed people to do something to spread fear - it's pure terrorism, without even the sabotage that ordinarily precedes it.

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    1. Re:Terror 1, Internet 0 by swordgeek · · Score: 1

      Ah well. I guess I beat the terrorists then. I was a bit sad to hear this story, because I know that it'll be another hoax like always, and I could use the time at work that would be afforded by having the network guys scrambling for a while.

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      "People who do stupid things with hazardous materials often die." -- Jim Davidson on alt.folklore.urban
    2. Re:Terror 1, Internet 0 by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1

      Yes, the "boy who cried wolf" was a terrorist eventually overcome by human nature (and a real wolf).

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  275. I blame AOL by Evil+Butters · · Score: 1

    I used to get e-mail messages like this a few years ago -- something about shutting down the Internet so they could clean up old files!

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    Homer no function beer well without.
  276. In Related News... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Kaspersky Labs has discovered the way to get lots of free PR.

  277. ebay! by worldcitizen · · Score: 2, Funny

    Bid now for anything ending tomorrow that still has a low price today, the last-minute squad won't be able to grab it tomorrow :P

  278. Re:Oh for pity's sake!! At least get the facts rig by goon · · Score: 1
    Kaspersky commented that the possibility of terrorists using the Internet as a tool to attack certain countries was a reality.

    this has been on the public radar (PBS: Frontline: Cyberwar) for a while now

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  279. wwww.ilovebees.com by ajd1474 · · Score: 1

    wwww.ilovebees.com

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  280. Vmyths take on it by dcam · · Score: 1

    Vymths has an article with some reasearch on this "story".

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    meh
  281. Out of curiosity... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    ...would your daughter happen to be 18 and single?

    If not, I expect to receive a notice when one or the other becomes true (I'm not picky).

    END TRANSMISSION

  282. How is this "The US and western europe"? by Halcyon-X · · Score: 1

    How did it get from this to "First of all, the United States and Western Europe will suffer from the attack, Gostev was quoted by the agency as saying."?

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    .sig: Open Source, Open Mind

  283. Meanwhile, back in the lab... by sciop101 · · Score: 0
    "Gee, Brain. What are we going to do tonight?"

    "The same thing we do every night, Pinky. Try to take over the world!"

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    The only thing new in this world is the history that you don't know.[Harry Truman]
  284. Sorry Guys.... by The+Bringer · · Score: 1

    In Soviet Russia, the internet hacks you!

  285. big surprise by GISGEOLOGYGEEK · · Score: 1

    wooo big surprise!

    some dumbass who sells anti-virus and security software claims there will be an crippling attack.

    who cares! big deal! it just shows that more than just George W Bush knows how to manipulate the average idiot by scaring and 'protecting' them from the imaginary threat.

    If there is an attack tomorrow ... the dumbass should be the first one arrected.

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    George Bush + Linux = "I will not let information get in the way of the fight against Windows"
  286. Stock Up... by NuclearDog · · Score: 1

    Well, that leaves me approximately 2 hours to stock up with as much porn & warez as humanly possible!

    OH NOES!

    ND

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  287. more predictions by tropavantgarde · · Score: 1

    other cyber experts predict that this meltdown may come close to the large-scale meltdown which that occurred around the world at 0:01, 1/1/99.

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  288. LAST POST* by thermopylae300 · · Score: 2, Funny
    Last Post Ever!

    *(EST)

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  289. We got a head start then. by edunbar93 · · Score: 1

    Today we had a major outage on our ADSL network. It turns out that our friendly neighbourhood Telco had a problem on one of their VLANs.

    I'm sure our customers will be pleased if this pans out.

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    "No problem. I have the capacity to do infinite work so long as you don't mind that my quality approaches zero."-Dilbert
  290. MODS: TROLL ALERT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't be taken in by this idiot--he has accounts under the names bonch and Overly Critical Guy. He has a history of astroturfing for Microsoft, bashing anything Open Source, using lies and half-truths to get modded up, karma whoring, and the usual trolling (under his bonch account, he got a troll posted to the front page of Slashdot).

    All you have to do to check the veracity of this is to look at the posting history of his two old personnae (linked above) and his current one to figure it out.

    Please do not mod this jerk up--every time you do the Slashdot S/N ratio goes down while bonch/Overly Critical Guy/rd_syringe just laughs at you.

    This has been a public service announcement

  291. What the article says by Dabido · · Score: 1

    Gostev said that the information on the attack could be found on "specialist web sites" although at the time of going to press the INQ couldn't find them.

    I think the terrorists attacked their own sites - that's why they were down. So they were correct, part of the internet was taken down by them. Website no higeki!

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    Sure enough, the cow costume was hanging up next to the superhero outfit and sailors uniform. (S,Spud)
  292. i can still slashdot - where is da shutdown? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i could really need a shut down. would stop me from permidling on irc, and perfirstpostoring on slash.

    damn. these russians used to be much better in the past. wonder what happened to them ever since the cold war stopped. nuclear threats and communism suited them better than fake and fud attax on my precious inet.

    in soviet russia, the inet shuts down YOU

  293. Re:LAST POST! (WTF? auto-moderation?) by gosand · · Score: 1

    Is there some kind of auto-moderation on Slashdot? The parent post started out with +2 because of my karma. Suddenly (perhaps because it met some pattern?) it gets modded down? My post was actually on topic, considering that it was about the internet going down. Trying to get the last post may not have been the most hilarious attempt, but it wasn't offtopic. I have noticed some other things as well, in other posts. It seems like keywords trigger them to be auto-moderated. Hmm. Could the tinfoil hats be right? Now I wonder if replying to a zero-modded post will cause me to lose even more karma. Slashdot, the supposed bastion of the Freedom, is found out to be just the opposite. Maybe the end of the internet is here...

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  294. Sweet Zombie Jesus.. by schon · · Score: 1

    That's hilarious!

    But I gotta ask.. what happens when a someone breaks into your house, you hide in the bed, and then the invader simply unplugs it and nails the lid shut?

    The first thing that struck me when seeing that site is that they're missing the line "makes a great coffin, too!"

  295. Film at eleven by Registered+Coward+v2 · · Score: 1

    Had to be said

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    I'm a consultant - I convert gibberish into cash-flow.
  296. It doesn't look down to me. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Check the timestamp on me.

    Proof the internet is up.

  297. excitment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    would be a nice change that sort of thing doesnt happen very often. of course it would suck not to have the internet

  298. SLASHDOT EBAY AUCTION! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item =5507147369